Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 < Pls take it very deep when I say India is a divine land, a land which is governed by Jup and Mars, this is a land which nestles truth and gives courage to protect truth, it loves truth. > Shri Mishraji, when anybody starts his quest about following things A)Origin of Civilizations B)Origin of Religious Thoughts C)Religious Tolerance D)Origin of Language E)Origin of Mathematics and Astronomy then after a long search person starts developing HATRED or DEEP-LOVE to only and only to Southern side of Himalayan. Why?? Because his search stucks only and only to this region. And " INDO " word has been and will always be hot word for entire world till the life will thrive on this earth. Mishraji this part has been super power in Millennia BCEs and now again things have started rolling in its favor automatically and power is again going to shift to China or India, but all want that everything should go in favor of India because of Indian's glorious past of tolerance. But same TOLERANCE has been biggest set back as Britishers, Dutch took benefit of it and colonized India and Indians remained innocent. And i don't have to speak about a dragon which took birth in 7'th Cent AD and everybody knows about that.... But the ppl , whom that dragon devoured , now say that they have been purest form of Brahmins of India. Pakistanis and Afghanis have been one of the purest Brahmins but tragedy is that, dragon has converted them and now they want that THEIR OWN ANCESTOR'S glorious past should be buried. But, Good news is, now those ppl have started taken interest in History ! FAROOQ ABDULLAH and HIS FATHER have many times openly asserted that they have been BRAHMINS of KASHMIR. Regs, Prashant Pandey Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > When I read such ideas, I remember our young Swami Vivekananda and his > innocent guru Sri Ramkrishna Thakur, there is one eternal truth, god > loves us and I think he also feels loneliness that's why he created this > beautiful world. > > As far as jesus is concerned, When Thakur used to meditate on Jesus and > was invoking him out of love, Jesus appeared before him, innocent thakur > noticed Jesus's nose is not straight, he told this to Vivekananda. > > When Vivekananda visited Itali or perhapse germany, in a library of one > of the oldest church, he found similar portrait of Jesus with skewed > nose. > > Pls take it very deep when I say India is a divine land, a land which is > governed by Jup and Mars, this is a land which nestles truth and gives > courage to protect truth, it loves truth. > > This is bharat varsha, let's not judge it's life on the basis of > vimshottari dashas based on 15'th august's horoscope, bharat existed > before 15'th august. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " > <praspandey@> wrote: > > > > , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know > that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it > belongs. > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > >  > > Prashant_jee, > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: > GANDHI! > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating > a salable product! > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > > > Best wishes! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this > matter. > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists > have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > > > > > Regs, > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > a " Nice Soul " . > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri > Rishi. > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you > openly share > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin > doing > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can > also become > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember > correctly, > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once > happened > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica > says once > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > but ppl > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > combination > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic > powers bt > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are > blocking > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete > imbalance > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 > there > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa > transit near > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions > and he has > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's > financial condns > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > 12'th > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > major > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > 12'th and > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be > feeling > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " prashant " > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but > those > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role > for > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th > but it > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about > at same > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so > there is > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict > about > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise > those > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > 12'th > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > major > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th > , from > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings > and so > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native > and > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the > sign of > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details > to me, > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > but ppl > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > combination > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows > Vaidik > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative > even from > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she > says she > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just > about to > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of > high > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the > concepts of > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and > only see > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are > talking > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " litsol " > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next > 10 - 12 > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can > embark on > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who > went into > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, > I told > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, > this was > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as > i have > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again > reappear. > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your > imp > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even > you > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership > in > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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