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Kulbir Ji,

 

When I visited Mr Deepak Bisaria, an editor of JOA, he told that one Pt

Haveli Ram of New Delhi had a copy of Arun Samhita (supposed to be

written by Sun), some other person told that Lal Kitab is a derivation

of Arun Samhita.

 

W'd like to know what's your opinion on it, Is it true ?

 

regards,

 

Lalit Mishra

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Sir,

IT IS TOTALLY FALSE;-

Lal kitab was written by Pt.

Rup Chand Joshi Ji, January, 1898- 24th December 1982,  born in the home of

Shri Jyoti Ram Joshi Ji, resident of village Pharwala, Tehsil Noormahal, District

Julundhar, Punjab.

Lalkitab consists of  5 books as follows;

1.Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke

Farmaan in 1939 AD.

2. Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke

Armaan 1940.

3. Lalkitab Teesra Hissa in

1941.

4. Lalkitab Tarmeemshuda

published in 1942.

5.  Ilm-e Samudrik ki

buniyad par jyotish ki lalkitab in1952.

 

The books featured the name of Pt Rup Chand Joshi’s cousin (son of his parental

uncle) Pt. Girdahari Lal sharma as the publisher and Pt Atma Ram Sharma,

resident of village Rahan, Tehsil Noorpur, District Kangra as the calligrapher.Name of author was not mentioned in any edition.

These books were printed in URDU in a small number and distributed at no profit no loss basis.By the Change of government, URDU script lost its popularity.

Some unscrupulous /rogues got these translated into HINDI script and published and spread such rumors.Some mistakes crept in these translations inadvertently but some seem to be deliberate to bring the publication under copyright act.

Many translations are there in the Market but the 4. books by PT. Beni Madhav Goswami are exact transcripts, care has been taken that page line and word number matches the original. Only the script has been changed from Urdu to Hindi.

1941 edition's exact transliteration or transcript has been already put on net by Yograj prabhakar ji for free download.

RegardsKulbir Bains.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kulbir Ji,

 

When I visited Mr Deepak Bisaria, an editor of JOA, he told that one Pt

Haveli Ram of New Delhi had a copy of Arun Samhita (supposed to be

written by Sun), some other person told that Lal Kitab is a derivation

of Arun Samhita.

 

W'd like to know what's your opinion on it, Is it true ?

 

regards,

 

Lalit Mishra

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Kulbir Ji,

 

There is a mystery that an unknown spirit taught Lal Kitab to Pt Rup

Chand Joshi.

 

Can we look into Pt Joshi Ji's horoscope, if available, We w'd come to

know who lays out foundation to new tradition.

 

regards,

Lalit Mishra

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Kulbir Bains

<lalkitabkb wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> *IT IS TOTALLY FALSE;-*

>

> Lal kitab was written by Pt. Rup Chand Joshi Ji, January, 1898- 24th

> December 1982, born in the home of Shri Jyoti Ram Joshi Ji, resident

of

> village Pharwala, Tehsil Noormahal, District Julundhar, Punjab.

>

> Lalkitab consists of 5 books as follows;

>

> 1.Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke Farmaan in 1939 AD.

>

> 2. Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke Armaan 1940.

>

> 3. Lalkitab Teesra Hissa in 1941.

>

> 4. Lalkitab Tarmeemshuda published in 1942.

>

> 5. Ilm-e Samudrik ki buniyad par jyotish ki lalkitab in1952.

>

>

> The books featured the name of Pt Rup Chand Joshi's cousin (son of

his

> parental uncle) Pt. Girdahari Lal sharma as the publisher and Pt Atma

Ram

> Sharma, resident of village Rahan, Tehsil Noorpur, District Kangra as

the

> calligrapher.

>

> Name of author was not mentioned in any edition.

>

> These books were printed in URDU in a small number and distributed at

no

> profit no loss basis.

>

> By the Change of government, URDU script lost its popularity.

>

> Some unscrupulous /rogues got these translated into HINDI script and

> published and spread such rumors.

>

> Some mistakes crept in these translations inadvertently but some seem

to be

> deliberate to bring the publication under copyright act.

>

> Many translations are there in the Market but the 4. books by PT. Beni

> Madhav Goswami are exact transcripts, care has been taken that page

line and

> word number matches the original. Only the script has been changed

from Urdu

> to Hindi.

>

> 1941 edition's exact transliteration or transcript has been already

put on

> net by Yograj prabhakar ji for free download.

>

> Regards

>

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

>

> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, litsol mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Kulbir Ji,

> >

> > When I visited Mr Deepak Bisaria, an editor of JOA, he told that one

Pt

> > Haveli Ram of New Delhi had a copy of Arun Samhita (supposed to be

> > written by Sun), some other person told that Lal Kitab is a

derivation

> > of Arun Samhita.

> >

> > W'd like to know what's your opinion on it, Is it true ?

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Lalit Mishra

> >

> >

> >

>

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Sir,Don't know for Sure but some say Pt Ji's horoscope could be (as interpreted from books)Date of birth 11-05-1898. Time of birth 17:43. Place - not known1st house - Vacant,2nd house - Saturn,

3rd house - Moon , Rahu,4th house - Vacant,5th house- Vacant, 6th house- Mars,7th house- Sun, Mercury,8th house - Venus,9th house - Ketu,10th house- Vacant,

11th house- Vacant,12th house - Jupiter.His officially recorded date of birth is 18th of January 1898.Someone close to him told me that Mercury was in 11th house of Pt Ji's horoscope.

So no claim about surety.RegardsKulbir Bains.On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kulbir Ji,

 

There is a mystery that an unknown spirit taught Lal Kitab to Pt Rup

Chand Joshi.

 

Can we look into Pt Joshi Ji's horoscope, if available, We w'd come to

know who lays out foundation to new tradition.

 

regards,

Lalit Mishra

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Kulbir Bains

<lalkitabkb wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> *IT IS TOTALLY FALSE;-*

>

> Lal kitab was written by Pt. Rup Chand Joshi Ji, January, 1898- 24th

> December 1982, born in the home of Shri Jyoti Ram Joshi Ji, resident

of

> village Pharwala, Tehsil Noormahal, District Julundhar, Punjab.

>

> Lalkitab consists of 5 books as follows;

>

> 1.Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke Farmaan in 1939 AD.

>

> 2. Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke Armaan 1940.

>

> 3. Lalkitab Teesra Hissa in 1941.

>

> 4. Lalkitab Tarmeemshuda published in 1942.

>

> 5. Ilm-e Samudrik ki buniyad par jyotish ki lalkitab in1952.

>

>

> The books featured the name of Pt Rup Chand Joshi's cousin (son of

his

> parental uncle) Pt. Girdahari Lal sharma as the publisher and Pt Atma

Ram

> Sharma, resident of village Rahan, Tehsil Noorpur, District Kangra as

the

> calligrapher.

>

> Name of author was not mentioned in any edition.

>

> These books were printed in URDU in a small number and distributed at

no

> profit no loss basis.

>

> By the Change of government, URDU script lost its popularity.

>

> Some unscrupulous /rogues got these translated into HINDI script and

> published and spread such rumors.

>

> Some mistakes crept in these translations inadvertently but some seem

to be

> deliberate to bring the publication under copyright act.

>

> Many translations are there in the Market but the 4. books by PT. Beni

> Madhav Goswami are exact transcripts, care has been taken that page

line and

> word number matches the original. Only the script has been changed

from Urdu

> to Hindi.

>

> 1941 edition's exact transliteration or transcript has been already

put on

> net by Yograj prabhakar ji for free download.

>

> Regards

>

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

>

> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, litsol mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Kulbir Ji,

> >

> > When I visited Mr Deepak Bisaria, an editor of JOA, he told that one

Pt

> > Haveli Ram of New Delhi had a copy of Arun Samhita (supposed to be

> > written by Sun), some other person told that Lal Kitab is a

derivation

> > of Arun Samhita.

> >

> > W'd like to know what's your opinion on it, Is it true ?

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Lalit Mishra

> >

> >

> >

>

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Sir,Really sorry,There is a printing error in original books.The Date of birth should be 10-05-1898 in place of 11-05-1898.Ascendant = Libra.RegardsKulbir Bains.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb wrote:

Sir,Don't know for Sure but some say Pt Ji's horoscope could be (as interpreted from books)Date of birth 11-05-1898. Time of birth 17:43. Place - not known1st house - Vacant,2nd house - Saturn,

3rd house - Moon , Rahu,4th house - Vacant,5th house- Vacant, 6th house- Mars,7th house- Sun, Mercury,8th house - Venus,9th house - Ketu,10th house- Vacant,

11th house- Vacant,12th house - Jupiter.His officially recorded date of birth is 18th of January 1898.Someone close to him told me that Mercury was in 11th house of Pt Ji's horoscope.

So no claim about surety.RegardsKulbir Bains.On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kulbir Ji,

 

There is a mystery that an unknown spirit taught Lal Kitab to Pt Rup

Chand Joshi.

 

Can we look into Pt Joshi Ji's horoscope, if available, We w'd come to

know who lays out foundation to new tradition.

 

regards,

Lalit Mishra

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Kulbir Bains

<lalkitabkb wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> *IT IS TOTALLY FALSE;-*

>

> Lal kitab was written by Pt. Rup Chand Joshi Ji, January, 1898- 24th

> December 1982, born in the home of Shri Jyoti Ram Joshi Ji, resident

of

> village Pharwala, Tehsil Noormahal, District Julundhar, Punjab.

>

> Lalkitab consists of 5 books as follows;

>

> 1.Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke Farmaan in 1939 AD.

>

> 2. Samudrik Ki Lalkitab Ke Armaan 1940.

>

> 3. Lalkitab Teesra Hissa in 1941.

>

> 4. Lalkitab Tarmeemshuda published in 1942.

>

> 5. Ilm-e Samudrik ki buniyad par jyotish ki lalkitab in1952.

>

>

> The books featured the name of Pt Rup Chand Joshi's cousin (son of

his

> parental uncle) Pt. Girdahari Lal sharma as the publisher and Pt Atma

Ram

> Sharma, resident of village Rahan, Tehsil Noorpur, District Kangra as

the

> calligrapher.

>

> Name of author was not mentioned in any edition.

>

> These books were printed in URDU in a small number and distributed at

no

> profit no loss basis.

>

> By the Change of government, URDU script lost its popularity.

>

> Some unscrupulous /rogues got these translated into HINDI script and

> published and spread such rumors.

>

> Some mistakes crept in these translations inadvertently but some seem

to be

> deliberate to bring the publication under copyright act.

>

> Many translations are there in the Market but the 4. books by PT. Beni

> Madhav Goswami are exact transcripts, care has been taken that page

line and

> word number matches the original. Only the script has been changed

from Urdu

> to Hindi.

>

> 1941 edition's exact transliteration or transcript has been already

put on

> net by Yograj prabhakar ji for free download.

>

> Regards

>

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

>

> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, litsol mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Kulbir Ji,

> >

> > When I visited Mr Deepak Bisaria, an editor of JOA, he told that one

Pt

> > Haveli Ram of New Delhi had a copy of Arun Samhita (supposed to be

> > written by Sun), some other person told that Lal Kitab is a

derivation

> > of Arun Samhita.

> >

> > W'd like to know what's your opinion on it, Is it true ?

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Lalit Mishra

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Mishra ji

 

Sadar Pranams!

 

I know this question is not intended for me and neither am I any authority on the subject but whatever little I know about this I would like to say it here with deep respect and apology if in anycase my knowledge is not correct.

 

From what I know, Pt Haveli Ram had a part of Original Bhrigu Samhita. His two sons divided the pages, whatever Pt ji had and their houses still stand at Raja Garden crossing, New Delhi. The maximum part of whatever is left of Bhrigu Samhita is in Hoshiarpur in Punjab.

 

If any of this information is not correct, Please feel free to correct it.

 

Thanks and Regards

Vivek

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing From: mishra.lalitDate: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:38:05 +0000[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Arun Samhita Vs Lal Kitab

 

 

Kulbir Ji,When I visited Mr Deepak Bisaria, an editor of JOA, he told that one PtHaveli Ram of New Delhi had a copy of Arun Samhita (supposed to bewritten by Sun), some other person told that Lal Kitab is a derivationof Arun Samhita.W'd like to know what's your opinion on it, Is it true ?regards,Lalit Mishra

 

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Dear Vivek,

 

Thanks for the info, I am aware that Hosiyarpur got Bhrigu Samhita, one

of group member and a friend of mine had done a reading therefrom.

 

I too have managed to get scanned whole of Bhrigu Samhita (Merrut

Version) scanned but I dont know how to use it.

 

Can you pls give complete address of pt haveliram's residence in delhi,

I may try a visit.

 

regards,

Lalit Mishra

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Vivek Bajaj

<bajajvivek wrote:

>

>

> Dear Mishra ji

>

>

>

> Sadar Pranams!

>

>

>

> I know this question is not intended for me and neither am I any

authority on the subject but whatever little I know about this I would

like to say it here with deep respect and apology if in anycase my

knowledge is not correct.

>

>

>

> From what I know, Pt Haveli Ram had a part of Original Bhrigu Samhita.

His two sons divided the pages, whatever Pt ji had and their houses

still stand at Raja Garden crossing, New Delhi. The maximum part of

whatever is left of Bhrigu Samhita is in Hoshiarpur in Punjab.

>

>

>

> If any of this information is not correct, Please feel free to correct

it.

>

>

>

> Thanks and Regards

>

> Vivek

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> mishra.lalit

> Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:38:05 +0000

> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Arun Samhita Vs Lal Kitab

Kulbir Ji,

>

> When I visited Mr Deepak Bisaria, an editor of JOA, he told that one

Pt

> Haveli Ram of New Delhi had a copy of Arun Samhita (supposed to be

> written by Sun), some other person told that Lal Kitab is a derivation

> of Arun Samhita.

>

> W'd like to know what's your opinion on it, Is it true ?

>

> regards,

>

> Lalit Mishra

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Lalit ji

 

From what i know, Pt Haveli Ram ji is no longer living. His 2 sons have divided the texts and they have also divided his house. Both the houses are adjacent to each other. I don't know the exact address in terms of house numbers or anything but if we are coming from Dhaula Kuan side towards raja garden on ring road, don't take the raja garden flyover and you'll see big boards on left hand side before reaching the crossing. I've seen the houses myself as I've traveled a lot in that area. Please feel free to let me know if I can be of any further help.

 

May I also request if it would be possible for you to post the scanned copy of the text you have for studying by Learnened members and students.

 

Thanks and Regards

Vivek

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing From: utkal.panigrahiDate: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:29:02 +0000[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Arun Samhita Vs Lal Kitab

 

 

Dear Vivek,Thanks for the info, I am aware that Hosiyarpur got Bhrigu Samhita, oneof group member and a friend of mine had done a reading therefrom.I too have managed to get scanned whole of Bhrigu Samhita (MerrutVersion) scanned but I dont know how to use it.Can you pls give complete address of pt haveliram's residence in delhi,I may try a visit.regards,Lalit MishraVedic Astrologyandhealing , Vivek Bajaj<bajajvivek wrote:>>> Dear Mishra ji>>>> Sadar Pranams!>>>> I know this question is not intended for me and neither am I anyauthority on the subject but whatever little I know about this I wouldlike to say it here with deep respect and apology if in anycase myknowledge is not correct.>>>> From what I know, Pt Haveli Ram had a part of Original Bhrigu Samhita.His two sons divided the pages, whatever Pt ji had and their housesstill stand at Raja Garden crossing, New Delhi. The maximum part ofwhatever is left of Bhrigu Samhita is in Hoshiarpur in Punjab.>>>> If any of this information is not correct, Please feel free to correctit.>>>> Thanks and Regards>> Vivek>>>>>> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > mishra.lalit Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:38:05 +0000> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Arun Samhita Vs Lal Kitab>>>>>>> Kulbir Ji,>> When I visited Mr Deepak Bisaria, an editor of JOA, he told that onePt> Haveli Ram of New Delhi had a copy of Arun Samhita (supposed to be> written by Sun), some other person told that Lal Kitab is a derivation> of Arun Samhita.>> W'd like to know what's your opinion on it, Is it true ?>> regards,>> Lalit Mishra>>>>>> ________> Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more fromyour inbox.>http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:\ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2>

 

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Dear Vivek,

 

Thanks for the Info, Weekend has come and now I w'd have time to respond

to you all...

 

:)

 

regards,

Lalit Mishra

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Vivek Bajaj

<bajajvivek wrote:

>

>

> Dear Lalit ji

>

>

>

> From what i know, Pt Haveli Ram ji is no longer living. His 2 sons

have divided the texts and they have also divided his house. Both the

houses are adjacent to each other. I don't know the exact address in

terms of house numbers or anything but if we are coming from Dhaula Kuan

side towards raja garden on ring road, don't take the raja garden

flyover and you'll see big boards on left hand side before reaching the

crossing. I've seen the houses myself as I've traveled a lot in that

area. Please feel free to let me know if I can be of any further help.

>

>

>

> May I also request if it would be possible for you to post the scanned

copy of the text you have for studying by Learnened members and

students.

>

>

>

> Thanks and Regards

>

> Vivek

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> utkal.panigrahi

> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:29:02 +0000

> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Arun Samhita Vs Lal Kitab

Dear Vivek,

>

> Thanks for the info, I am aware that Hosiyarpur got Bhrigu Samhita,

one

> of group member and a friend of mine had done a reading therefrom.

>

> I too have managed to get scanned whole of Bhrigu Samhita (Merrut

> Version) scanned but I dont know how to use it.

>

> Can you pls give complete address of pt haveliram's residence in

delhi,

> I may try a visit.

>

> regards,

> Lalit Mishra

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Vivek Bajaj

> bajajvivek@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Mishra ji

> >

> >

> >

> > Sadar Pranams!

> >

> >

> >

> > I know this question is not intended for me and neither am I any

> authority on the subject but whatever little I know about this I would

> like to say it here with deep respect and apology if in anycase my

> knowledge is not correct.

> >

> >

> >

> > From what I know, Pt Haveli Ram had a part of Original Bhrigu

Samhita.

> His two sons divided the pages, whatever Pt ji had and their houses

> still stand at Raja Garden crossing, New Delhi. The maximum part of

> whatever is left of Bhrigu Samhita is in Hoshiarpur in Punjab.

> >

> >

> >

> > If any of this information is not correct, Please feel free to

correct

> it.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> >

> > Vivek

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > mishra.lalit@

> > Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:38:05 +0000

> > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Arun Samhita Vs Lal Kitab

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Kulbir Ji,

> >

> > When I visited Mr Deepak Bisaria, an editor of JOA, he told that one

> Pt

> > Haveli Ram of New Delhi had a copy of Arun Samhita (supposed to be

> > written by Sun), some other person told that Lal Kitab is a

derivation

> > of Arun Samhita.

> >

> > W'd like to know what's your opinion on it, Is it true ?

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Lalit Mishra

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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