Democratic Primaries - Pennsylvania - CORRECTION

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Dear friends,

 

In rereading my post, I've decided to correct the wording of two

sentencenses:

 

" The Gemini rising chart for Hillary Clinton is a strongER chart,

befitting the wife of a former President and Senator of a major

country like the USA. "

....

" I presume this is because of the MORE abundant natal potential in

the chart [of Hillary Clinton]. "

 

I felt it necessary to change the wording in view of her 11th lord

Mars and 3rd lord Sun being debilitated even if well placed and 7th

lord Jupiter being badly placed in the 6th house. That said, her 5th

lord Venus in its own sign and 5th house and the 2nd lord Moon in the

10th house are promising placements for her as a politician.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> The Democratic Primaries reach a crucial stage tonight when the

votes will be counted for either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

Clinton's lead in the polls has slipped from 20% to 10% in the recent

weeks. As Obama goes into the primary with a cumulative lead over

Clinton in the total delegate count, he needs to sufficiently

maintain this lead even if Hillary wins the Primary overall. In this

regard, the extent of her win will be important. Pundist say that if

her margin of victory is less than 10%, she will not look so good

coming out of the primary. However, if the margin of victory is more

than 10% she will obtain much needed momentum to carry on with the

struggle up until the convention in late August 2008.

>

> We have several charts proposed for each candidate but the Gemini

rising chart looks plausible for Hillary Clinton. For Barack Obama,

the Libra rising chart could be correct. However, there is some

uncertainty. In view of that, any readings and predictions based on

these chart, especially of Obama, should be taken with some amount of

caution. That said, let's look at what these charts suggest for the

candidates at this time.

>

> The Gemini rising chart for Hillary Clinton is a strong chart,

befitting the wife of a former President and Senator of a major

country like the USA. The transits in the chart are looking a lot

better these days. She is running Jupiter-Rahu period and for the

first three months of 2008, a nodal station was afflicting the Most

Effective Point of her 3rd and 9th houses - aspecting all the odd

numbered houses. At that time, her candidacy fell behind, into second

place, which would have been a big shock to the former front runner.

Nevertheless, she carried on and recently, she has been on the attack

and seems to regaining her stride.

>

> The same cannot be said of Obama, who has been struggling to cut

down the lead of Clinton in the polls and dodging her attacks. The

Libra rising chart for him is running Jupiter-Venus period with

transit Venus in old age in the 6th house. Natally 1st lord Venus is

very strong and well placed in the 9th house. However, the chart

overall does not look as strong as Clinton's. The nodal station which

was afflicting his natal nodes is no longer stationary, but still

within a close orb. As such the strain may be lifting but the

difficulty would have been great, wearing him down.

>

> Earlier, when we were discussing the various charts proposed for

Barack ObamaI, I mentioned my sense of disappointment over the lack

of strength in these charts for him. I did not find any of them

promising. Nevertheless, I noted he was running the period of his

strongest planet, Venus, which would be helpful. By comparison,

Hillary Clinton, has the stronger chart but has been running a

difficult period and transits. In late February 2008, Professor

Choudhry predicted Hillary Clinton would become the next President of

the USA. I presume this is because of the abundant natal potential in

the chart.

>

> Based on this, it is likely she will do sufficiently well today to

continue the fight up to the Democratic National Convention and gain

the nomination there. At the same time, as I have pointed out

earlier, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart will be especially

tense in late August when the convention will be held. As a result,

it is likely to be a dramatic time in the country.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

The major news networks are reporting that Hillary Clinton has won

the Pennsylvania primary with a convincing margin:

 

" With 80 percent of Pennsylvania precincts reporting, Clinton was

leading Obama 55 to 45 percent. A total of 158 delegates to the

convention were at stake. "

 

The first part of the following prediction has therefore been

realised:

 

" Based on this, it is likely she will do sufficiently well today

to continue the fight up to the Democratic National Convention and

gain the nomination there. "

 

It will be interesting to follow the developments in the months

ahead. According to the primary schedule, the Democrats are supposed

to have made their final choice by June 3rd. This is looking less

likely. It is more likely that Obama will emerge from the primary

battle with his lead badly reduced. The risk then is that his

superdelegates will enter the National Convention as undecideds and

then be persuaded to support Clinton. Certainly, the Clinton camp is

now promoting the assessment of Obama that he " is not a closer " as he

has clearly been unable to pull a victory in the last major primary.

 

That said, the battle is not yet over, there are a few more primaries

left, albeit with fewer delegates at stake...

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> In rereading my post, I've decided to correct the wording of two

> sentencenses:

>

> " The Gemini rising chart for Hillary Clinton is a strongER chart,

> befitting the wife of a former President and Senator of a major

> country like the USA. "

> ...

> " I presume this is because of the MORE abundant natal potential in

> the chart [of Hillary Clinton]. "

>

> I felt it necessary to change the wording in view of her 11th lord

> Mars and 3rd lord Sun being debilitated even if well placed and 7th

> lord Jupiter being badly placed in the 6th house. That said, her

5th

> lord Venus in its own sign and 5th house and the 2nd lord Moon in

the

> 10th house are promising placements for her as a politician.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > The Democratic Primaries reach a crucial stage tonight when the

> votes will be counted for either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

> Clinton's lead in the polls has slipped from 20% to 10% in the

recent

> weeks. As Obama goes into the primary with a cumulative lead over

> Clinton in the total delegate count, he needs to sufficiently

> maintain this lead even if Hillary wins the Primary overall. In

this

> regard, the extent of her win will be important. Pundist say that

if

> her margin of victory is less than 10%, she will not look so good

> coming out of the primary. However, if the margin of victory is

more

> than 10% she will obtain much needed momentum to carry on with the

> struggle up until the convention in late August 2008.

> >

> > We have several charts proposed for each candidate but the Gemini

> rising chart looks plausible for Hillary Clinton. For Barack Obama,

> the Libra rising chart could be correct. However, there is some

> uncertainty. In view of that, any readings and predictions based on

> these chart, especially of Obama, should be taken with some amount

of

> caution. That said, let's look at what these charts suggest for the

> candidates at this time.

> >

> > The Gemini rising chart for Hillary Clinton is a strong chart,

> befitting the wife of a former President and Senator of a major

> country like the USA. The transits in the chart are looking a lot

> better these days. She is running Jupiter-Rahu period and for the

> first three months of 2008, a nodal station was afflicting the Most

> Effective Point of her 3rd and 9th houses - aspecting all the odd

> numbered houses. At that time, her candidacy fell behind, into

second

> place, which would have been a big shock to the former front

runner.

> Nevertheless, she carried on and recently, she has been on the

attack

> and seems to regaining her stride.

> >

> > The same cannot be said of Obama, who has been struggling to cut

> down the lead of Clinton in the polls and dodging her attacks. The

> Libra rising chart for him is running Jupiter-Venus period with

> transit Venus in old age in the 6th house. Natally 1st lord Venus

is

> very strong and well placed in the 9th house. However, the chart

> overall does not look as strong as Clinton's. The nodal station

which

> was afflicting his natal nodes is no longer stationary, but still

> within a close orb. As such the strain may be lifting but the

> difficulty would have been great, wearing him down.

> >

> > Earlier, when we were discussing the various charts proposed for

> Barack ObamaI, I mentioned my sense of disappointment over the lack

> of strength in these charts for him. I did not find any of them

> promising. Nevertheless, I noted he was running the period of his

> strongest planet, Venus, which would be helpful. By comparison,

> Hillary Clinton, has the stronger chart but has been running a

> difficult period and transits. In late February 2008, Professor

> Choudhry predicted Hillary Clinton would become the next President

of

> the USA. I presume this is because of the abundant natal potential

in

> the chart.

> >

> > Based on this, it is likely she will do sufficiently well today

to

> continue the fight up to the Democratic National Convention and

gain

> the nomination there. At the same time, as I have pointed out

> earlier, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart will be especially

> tense in late August when the convention will be held. As a result,

> it is likely to be a dramatic time in the country.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

Some more information.

 

Pennsylvania Election Results

Democratic Primary, April 22, 2008

 

Vote.......%PA.......Del.....Total Del.....%Total Del

Clinton.....55%......52........1,556........38.4%

Obama.......45%......46........1,694........41.8%

 

99% of precincts reporting

 

4,048 Democratic delegates will go to the National Convention. Of

these, the winner needs to have the support of at least 2,025

delegates, or over 50%. So far Barack Obama has almost 42% but

Hillary Clinton just over 38%. So, Obama is still ahead in the

overall delegate count. In order to claim the nomination, Hillary

Clinton either needs to win 58.6% of the remaining 800 delegates,

which would be hard, or convince the Superdelegates at the Convention

that as Barack Obama lost in the primaries of the largest states (New

York, California, Texas and Philadelphia) he is, as a candidate for

the Presidency, likely to be unelectable.

 

Whatever happens, it is likely to be interesting.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> The major news networks are reporting that Hillary Clinton has won

> the Pennsylvania primary with a convincing margin:

>

> " With 80 percent of Pennsylvania precincts reporting, Clinton was

> leading Obama 55 to 45 percent. A total of 158 delegates to the

> convention were at stake. "

>

> The first part of the following prediction has therefore been

> realised:

>

> " Based on this, it is likely she will do sufficiently well today

> to continue the fight up to the Democratic National Convention and

> gain the nomination there. "

>

> It will be interesting to follow the developments in the months

> ahead. According to the primary schedule, the Democrats are

supposed

> to have made their final choice by June 3rd. This is looking less

> likely. It is more likely that Obama will emerge from the primary

> battle with his lead badly reduced. The risk then is that his

> superdelegates will enter the National Convention as undecideds and

> then be persuaded to support Clinton. Certainly, the Clinton camp

is

> now promoting the assessment of Obama that he " is not a closer " as

he

> has clearly been unable to pull a victory in the last major

primary.

>

> That said, the battle is not yet over, there are a few more

primaries

> left, albeit with fewer delegates at stake...

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

> SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > In rereading my post, I've decided to correct the wording of two

> > sentencenses:

> >

> > " The Gemini rising chart for Hillary Clinton is a strongER chart,

> > befitting the wife of a former President and Senator of a major

> > country like the USA. "

> > ...

> > " I presume this is because of the MORE abundant natal potential

in

> > the chart [of Hillary Clinton]. "

> >

> > I felt it necessary to change the wording in view of her 11th

lord

> > Mars and 3rd lord Sun being debilitated even if well placed and

7th

> > lord Jupiter being badly placed in the 6th house. That said, her

> 5th

> > lord Venus in its own sign and 5th house and the 2nd lord Moon in

> the

> > 10th house are promising placements for her as a politician.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > The Democratic Primaries reach a crucial stage tonight when the

> > votes will be counted for either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

> > Clinton's lead in the polls has slipped from 20% to 10% in the

> recent

> > weeks. As Obama goes into the primary with a cumulative lead over

> > Clinton in the total delegate count, he needs to sufficiently

> > maintain this lead even if Hillary wins the Primary overall. In

> this

> > regard, the extent of her win will be important. Pundist say that

> if

> > her margin of victory is less than 10%, she will not look so good

> > coming out of the primary. However, if the margin of victory is

> more

> > than 10% she will obtain much needed momentum to carry on with

the

> > struggle up until the convention in late August 2008.

> > >

> > > We have several charts proposed for each candidate but the

Gemini

> > rising chart looks plausible for Hillary Clinton. For Barack

Obama,

> > the Libra rising chart could be correct. However, there is some

> > uncertainty. In view of that, any readings and predictions based

on

> > these chart, especially of Obama, should be taken with some

amount

> of

> > caution. That said, let's look at what these charts suggest for

the

> > candidates at this time.

> > >

> > > The Gemini rising chart for Hillary Clinton is a strong chart,

> > befitting the wife of a former President and Senator of a major

> > country like the USA. The transits in the chart are looking a lot

> > better these days. She is running Jupiter-Rahu period and for the

> > first three months of 2008, a nodal station was afflicting the

Most

> > Effective Point of her 3rd and 9th houses - aspecting all the odd

> > numbered houses. At that time, her candidacy fell behind, into

> second

> > place, which would have been a big shock to the former front

> runner.

> > Nevertheless, she carried on and recently, she has been on the

> attack

> > and seems to regaining her stride.

> > >

> > > The same cannot be said of Obama, who has been struggling to

cut

> > down the lead of Clinton in the polls and dodging her attacks.

The

> > Libra rising chart for him is running Jupiter-Venus period with

> > transit Venus in old age in the 6th house. Natally 1st lord Venus

> is

> > very strong and well placed in the 9th house. However, the chart

> > overall does not look as strong as Clinton's. The nodal station

> which

> > was afflicting his natal nodes is no longer stationary, but still

> > within a close orb. As such the strain may be lifting but the

> > difficulty would have been great, wearing him down.

> > >

> > > Earlier, when we were discussing the various charts proposed

for

> > Barack ObamaI, I mentioned my sense of disappointment over the

lack

> > of strength in these charts for him. I did not find any of them

> > promising. Nevertheless, I noted he was running the period of his

> > strongest planet, Venus, which would be helpful. By comparison,

> > Hillary Clinton, has the stronger chart but has been running a

> > difficult period and transits. In late February 2008, Professor

> > Choudhry predicted Hillary Clinton would become the next

President

> of

> > the USA. I presume this is because of the abundant natal

potential

> in

> > the chart.

> > >

> > > Based on this, it is likely she will do sufficiently well today

> to

> > continue the fight up to the Democratic National Convention and

> gain

> > the nomination there. At the same time, as I have pointed out

> > earlier, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart will be especially

> > tense in late August when the convention will be held. As a

result,

> > it is likely to be a dramatic time in the country.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Thor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

____________________

> > ______________

> > > Be a better friend, newshound, and

> > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

> > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

> > >

> >

>