Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Dear Professor, The death toll in China has risen greatly to the tens of thousands, and the injured are around 220, 000. Do you find that it is adequately explained in the proposed Scorpio rising chart for China? While this chart has responded very well for previous events and predictions, Thor has flagged it as not being so clear for this event. Best regards, Vyas Munidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Hello dear Vyas, To me also Scorpio asdt does not appeal. The number of floods and other natural calamities show that the ascendant can be VIRGO. You may try to look into the chart with 17.34 degrees (0710 hrs.). Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas SAMVA Monday, May 19, 2008 7:58 AM China Chart- Dear Professor,The death toll in China has risen greatly to the tens of thousands, and the injured are around 220, 000. Do you find that it is adequately explained in the proposed Scorpio rising chart for China?While this chart has responded very well for previous events and predictions, Thor has flagged it as not being so clear for this event.Best regards,Vyas Munidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Thank you Professor for your kind guidance. I'll look into it. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry <SAMVA > Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:43 PM Re: China Chart- Hello dear Vyas, To me also Scorpio asdt does not appeal. The number of floods and other natural calamities show that the ascendant can be VIRGO. You may try to look into the chart with 17.34 degrees (0710 hrs.). Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas SAMVA Monday, May 19, 2008 7:58 AM China Chart- Dear Professor, The death toll in China has risen greatly to the tens of thousands, and the injured are around 220, 000. Do you find that it is adequately explained in the proposed Scorpio rising chart for China? While this chart has responded very well for previous events and predictions, Thor has flagged it as not being so clear for this event. Best regards, Vyas Munidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Dear Professor and List, (Examination of the 17:34 Virgo Chart) The LO1 is in the first house at 81% strength (old age) and closely conjunct Ketu. The Sun, LO12, is also placed in H1 in slight infancy, retaining 90% strength. Overall these are positives, but can give some upset from time to time to the administration, and the onset of natural calamities and sudden upsets are heightened. Strong Mercury and Sun in this case blesses with quick solutions and an attitude of not needing help from any other nation. The Lord of the 2H, status, and wealth, Venus is in its own house close to the MEP. It is afflicted by both the debilitated LO8 from the 11H (whose lord is in the 12H) and by Saturn, LO6 that is placed in the 12H. Being in a SLH, in its own MTH, it gains special power, however these afflictions are still serious. Frequent setbacks to the nation in status and wealth and weather disturbances will be common. The Moon, LO11 the prime significator of income, is placed in the 12H, just close to the MEP. However, the house is closely afflicted by the LO6, Saturn. The aspect of Saturn to its own house helps the financial solvency of the nation. Whilst both these planets loose about 50% strength due to bad placement, because it's the sign Leo an additional 25% strength is gained. Since the Sun is slightly weak by infancy, and its lord is closely afflicted, such gain is tempered. Saturn's affliction to the 9H is problematic and can certainly give rise to an atheistic tendency. MMP Mars is debilitated and closely afflicts H11, H2, H5 and H8. Jupiter, LO4 is in infancy in it's own MTH, retaining 17% strength. This reduces the happiness of the masses, but things still continue. Some elements do fit quite well (natural disasters, attitude and stance, religion, income from foreign lands, spending on R & D), but there are some key questions. Does this chart justify: - the 9.4% GDP y/y for the last quarter century? - largest account surplus in the world? - over one trillion USD in FX reserves? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> <SAMVA > Monday, May 19, 2008 12:34 PM Re: China Chart- Thank you Professor for your kind guidance. I'll look into it. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry <SAMVA > Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:43 PM Re: China Chart- Hello dear Vyas, To me also Scorpio asdt does not appeal. The number of floods and other natural calamities show that the ascendant can be VIRGO. You may try to look into the chart with 17.34 degrees (0710 hrs.). Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas SAMVA Monday, May 19, 2008 7:58 AM China Chart- Dear Professor, The death toll in China has risen greatly to the tens of thousands, and the injured are around 220, 000. Do you find that it is adequately explained in the proposed Scorpio rising chart for China? While this chart has responded very well for previous events and predictions, Thor has flagged it as not being so clear for this event. Best regards, Vyas Munidas --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hello dear Mr. Vyas, You may also see one more possibility. That is with Capricorn as ascendant. Best wishes. - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> <SAMVA > Monday, May 19, 2008 11:28 PM Re: China Chart- | Dear Professor and List, | | (Examination of the 17:34 Virgo Chart) | | The LO1 is in the first house at 81% strength (old age) and closely conjunct | Ketu. The Sun, LO12, is also placed in H1 in slight infancy, retaining 90% | strength. Overall these are positives, but can give some upset from time to | time to the administration, and the onset of natural calamities and sudden | upsets are heightened. Strong Mercury and Sun in this case blesses with | quick solutions and an attitude of not needing help from any other nation. | | The Lord of the 2H, status, and wealth, Venus is in its own house close to | the MEP. It is afflicted by both the debilitated LO8 from the 11H (whose | lord is in the 12H) and by Saturn, LO6 that is placed in the 12H. Being in a | SLH, in its own MTH, it gains special power, however these afflictions are | still serious. Frequent setbacks to the nation in status and wealth and | weather disturbances will be common. | | The Moon, LO11 the prime significator of income, is placed in the 12H, just | close to the MEP. However, the house is closely afflicted by the LO6, | Saturn. The aspect of Saturn to its own house helps the financial solvency | of the nation. Whilst both these planets loose about 50% strength due to bad | placement, because it's the sign Leo an additional 25% strength is gained. | Since the Sun is slightly weak by infancy, and its lord is closely | afflicted, such gain is tempered. Saturn's affliction to the 9H is | problematic and can certainly give rise to an atheistic tendency. | | MMP Mars is debilitated and closely afflicts H11, H2, H5 and H8. | | Jupiter, LO4 is in infancy in it's own MTH, retaining 17% strength. This | reduces the happiness of the masses, but things still continue. | | Some elements do fit quite well (natural disasters, attitude and stance, | religion, income from foreign lands, spending on R & D), but there are some | key questions. Does this chart justify: | | - the 9.4% GDP y/y for the last quarter century? | - largest account surplus in the world? | - over one trillion USD in FX reserves? | | | Best regards, | | Vyas Munidas | | - | " Vyas Munidas " <muni> | <SAMVA > | Monday, May 19, 2008 12:34 PM | Re: China Chart- | | | Thank you Professor for your kind guidance. I'll look into it. | | | Best regards, | | Vyas Munidas | | - | " SIHA " <vkchoudhry | <SAMVA > | Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:43 PM | Re: China Chart- | | | | Hello dear Vyas, | | To me also Scorpio asdt does not appeal. The number of floods and other | natural calamities show that the ascendant can be VIRGO. You may try to | look into the chart with 17.34 degrees (0710 hrs.). | | Best wishes. | | | | | | - | Vyas Munidas | SAMVA | Monday, May 19, 2008 7:58 AM | China Chart- | | | Dear Professor, | | The death toll in China has risen greatly to the tens of thousands, and | the | injured are around 220, 000. Do you find that it is adequately explained | in | the proposed Scorpio rising chart for China? | | While this chart has responded very well for previous events and | predictions, Thor has flagged it as not being so clear for this event. | | Best regards, | | Vyas Munidas | | | | | | --- | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Dear Vyas and , The following dates may be of interest (suggested time): THE REPUBLIC Revolutionary overthrow of Manchus Imperial Dynasty begins: 9 October 1911 in Hankow (no time) Revolution spreads to city of Wuchang - "Dawn of the Republic": 10 October 1911 (no time) Sun Yat-sen elected President of provisional assembly: 29 or 30 December 1911 in Nanking. Republic proclaimed: 1 January 1912 in Nanking (no time) Emperor Hsuan Tung abdicates: 12 February 1912 (no city, no time) THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA PRC proclaimed, opening session of CPPCC: 21 September 1949 in Peking (9.00 or 10.00 AM) Rally inaugurating PRC: 1 October 1949 in Peking (3:15 PM) Source: Nicholas Campion, The Book of World Horoscopes, 1996. Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:00:31 AMRe: China Chart- Hello dear Mr. Vyas,You may also see one more possibility. That is with Capricorn as ascendant.Best wishes.- "Vyas Munidas" <muni><SAMVA >Monday, May 19, 2008 11:28 PMRe: China Chart- | Dear Professor and List,|| (Examination of the 17:34 Virgo Chart)|| The LO1 is in the first house at 81% strength (old age) and closely conjunct| Ketu. The Sun, LO12, is also placed in H1 in slight infancy, retaining 90%| strength. Overall these are positives, but can give some upset from time to| time to the administration, and the onset of natural calamities and sudden| upsets are heightened. Strong Mercury and Sun in this case blesses with| quick solutions and an attitude of not needing help from any other nation.|| The Lord of the 2H, status, and wealth, Venus is in its own house close to| the MEP. It is afflicted by both the debilitated LO8 from the 11H (whose| lord is in the 12H) and by Saturn, LO6 that is placed in the 12H. Being in a| SLH, in its own MTH, it gains special power, however these afflictions are| still serious. Frequent setbacks to the nation in status and wealth and| weather disturbances will be common.|| The Moon, LO11 the prime significator of income, is placed in the 12H, just| close to the MEP. However, the house is closely afflicted by the LO6,| Saturn. The aspect of Saturn to its own house helps the financial solvency| of the nation. Whilst both these planets loose about 50% strength due to bad| placement, because it's the sign Leo an additional 25% strength is gained.| Since the Sun is slightly weak by infancy, and its lord is closely| afflicted, such gain is tempered. Saturn's affliction to the 9H is| problematic and can certainly give rise to an atheistic tendency.|| MMP Mars is debilitated and closely afflicts H11, H2, H5 and H8.|| Jupiter, LO4 is in infancy in it's own MTH, retaining 17% strength. This| reduces the happiness of the masses, but things still continue.|| Some elements do fit quite well (natural disasters, attitude and stance,| religion, income from foreign lands, spending on R & D), but there are some| key questions. Does this chart justify:|| - the 9.4% GDP y/y for the last quarter century?| - largest account surplus in the world?| - over one trillion USD in FX reserves?||| Best regards,|| Vyas Munidas|| - | "Vyas Munidas" <muni>| <SAMVA >| Monday, May 19, 2008 12:34 PM| Re: China Chart- ||| Thank you Professor for your kind guidance. I'll look into it.||| Best regards,|| Vyas Munidas|| - | "SIHA" <vkchoudhry| <SAMVA >| Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:43 PM| Re: China Chart- |||| Hello dear Vyas,|| To me also Scorpio asdt does not appeal. The number of floods and other| natural calamities show that the ascendant can be VIRGO. You may try to| look into the chart with 17.34 degrees (0710 hrs.).|| Best wishes.|| |||| - | Vyas Munidas| SAMVA | Monday, May 19, 2008 7:58 AM| China Chart- ||| Dear Professor,|| The death toll in China has risen greatly to the tens of thousands, and| the| injured are around 220, 000. Do you find that it is adequately explained| in| the proposed Scorpio rising chart for China?|| While this chart has responded very well for previous events and| predictions, Thor has flagged it as not being so clear for this event.|| Best regards,|| Vyas Munidas|||||| ---|| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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