Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart [Was: Phoenix...]

[Guest guest]

Dear and list members,

 

Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the

SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events.

 

Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts

at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market

to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point

prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This

prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit

Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal

harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the

year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-

prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index

dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of

12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to throw

the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the

year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have

reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the

banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On

the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-

crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the

banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding

needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks

continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending

each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of

dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved

and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If

there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some

failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a

misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an

affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing

sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be

expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the

financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the

dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial

stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart

where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn

there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was

aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence,

this signaled obstructions to " easy gains " . As Saturn was also

aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the

country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the

transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to

losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the

prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus

was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not

by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of

the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the

share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been

the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking

system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to

stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could

have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while

following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the

events!

 

Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the

SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused

predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to

mundane astrology.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry wrote:

>

>

> Hello my dear Thor,

>

> Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.

>

> Best wishes.

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> Cosmologer

> SAMVA

> Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM

> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

>

>

>

> Dear Vyas,

>

>

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

> The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and

enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the

chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th

lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space

flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Thor

>

>

>

>

>

> Vyas Munidas <muni>

> SAMVA

> Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM

> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

>

> Dear Thor,

>

> Good coverage and call.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " cosmologer " <cosmologer

> <SAMVA >

> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM

> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

>

>

> The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative

aspects.

> > Positive:

> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in

the

> 7th house.

> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.

> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th

> house

> > Negative:

> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both

> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.

> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord

> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the

> 7th house.

> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn

could

> only suggest the risks involved.

> > Best wishes,

> > Thor

> >

> >

> >

> > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>

> > samva

> > Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM

> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

> >

> >

> > Hello dear list members,

> >

> > An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for

the

> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to

land on

> the planet Mars.

> >

> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:

> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/

> >

> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to

travel

> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa

engineers

> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some

> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been

> estimated to be 55%!

> >

> > Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will

succeed

> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from

> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,

> aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown

> unfolded.

> > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/launch/blog.html

> >

> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.

> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the

2nd

> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house

of

> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th

and

> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house,

thereby

> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is well

> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in

> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength

> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in

mutual

> aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly

> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is

> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord

> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also

> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this

> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy

> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function.

Ketu is

> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in

the

> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant

> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success

for

> the mission.

> >

> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord

Saturn

> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit

Venus

> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit

3rd

> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success.

On

> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the

> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect

from

> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also

afflicting

> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring

difficulty.

> >

> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord,

it

> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in

> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.

> >

> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Thor,

 

Another benefit - the discussion of this chart and events over many months

has added greatly to the understanding and application of mundane astrology.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" cosmologer " <cosmologer

<SAMVA >

Monday, May 26, 2008 9:38 AM

Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart [Was: Phoenix...]

 

 

Dear and list members,

 

Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the

SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events.

 

Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts

at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market

to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point

prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This

prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit

Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal

harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the

year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-

prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index

dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of

12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to throw

the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the

year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have

reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the

banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On

the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-

crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the

banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding

needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks

continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending

each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of

dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved

and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If

there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some

failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a

misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an

affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing

sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be

expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the

financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the

dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial

stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart

where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn

there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was

aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence,

this signaled obstructions to " easy gains " . As Saturn was also

aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the

country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the

transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to

losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the

prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus

was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not

by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of

the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the

share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been

the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking

system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to

stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could

have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while

following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the

events!

 

Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the

SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused

predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to

mundane astrology.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry wrote:

>

>

> Hello my dear Thor,

>

> Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.

>

> Best wishes.

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> Cosmologer

> SAMVA

> Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM

> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

>

>

>

> Dear Vyas,

>

>

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

> The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and

enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the

chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th

lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space

flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Thor

>

>

>

>

>

> Vyas Munidas <muni>

> SAMVA

> Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM

> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

>

> Dear Thor,

>

> Good coverage and call.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " cosmologer " <cosmologer

> <SAMVA >

> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM

> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

>

>

> The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative

aspects.

> > Positive:

> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in

the

> 7th house.

> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.

> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th

> house

> > Negative:

> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both

> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.

> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord

> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the

> 7th house.

> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn

could

> only suggest the risks involved.

> > Best wishes,

> > Thor

> >

> >

> >

> > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>

> > samva

> > Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM

> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

> >

> >

> > Hello dear list members,

> >

> > An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for

the

> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to

land on

> the planet Mars.

> >

> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:

> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/

> >

> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to

travel

> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa

engineers

> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some

> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been

> estimated to be 55%!

> >

> > Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will

succeed

> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from

> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,

> aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown

> unfolded.

> > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/launch/blog.html

> >

> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.

> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the

2nd

> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house

of

> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th

and

> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house,

thereby

> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is well

> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in

> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength

> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in

mutual

> aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly

> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is

> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord

> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also

> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this

> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy

> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function.

Ketu is

> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in

the

> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant

> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success

for

> the mission.

> >

> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord

Saturn

> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit

Venus

> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit

3rd

> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success.

On

> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the

> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect

from

> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also

afflicting

> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring

difficulty.

> >

> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord,

it

> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in

> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.

> >

> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vyas,

 

How right you are. The value of SA shines forth undiminished when working with an authentic chart, whether for an individual or nation. Of course, the problem of ascertaining the authentic mundane chart is often times much harder to ascertain than I ever dared imagine. When I began this journey some ten years ago, I daresay that I would perhaps have paused to dive into this field if I had known the effort and time it would take for the fruits of the effort to become ripe! Fortunately, I have had the opportunity to learn from a real master in astrology, our dear Profeesor Choudhry. I consider myself very blessed in that respect. And now that I am here, having made this much progress, there is a good deal of a sense of satisfaction. Of course, I would like more astrologers to recognise the value of SA in the mundane sphere, but it will happen. In this

regard, the value of SAMVA list to share such insights in indispensible. I am confident more list members will make use of it in the future when they see what is possible to do.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

Vyas Munidas <muni>SAMVA Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 1:57:28 PMRe: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart [Was: Phoenix...]Dear Thor,Another benefit - the discussion of this chart and events over many months has added greatly to the understanding and application of mundane astrology.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "cosmologer" <cosmologer<SAMVA >Monday, May 26, 2008 9:38 AM Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart [Was: Phoenix...]Dear Professor

Choudhry and list members,Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into theSAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events.Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest effortsat predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock marketto correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a pointprediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. Thisprediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transitKetu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communalharmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of theyear. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Indexdropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to throwthe global

financial market into turmoil for the remainder of theyear. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities havereduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into thebanking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. Onthe upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as thebanks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their fundingneeds going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the bankscontinue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lendingeach other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions ofdollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolvedand will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. Ifthere was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not somefailure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due

to amisreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, anaffliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housingsector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should beexpected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting thefinancial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as thedispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financialstability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chartwhere it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturnthere, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter wasaspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence,this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was alsoaspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of thecountry also came under strain. The problem was thus that thetransits undermined the financial stability in

the country, linked tolosses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked theprediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focuswas more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but notby as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity ofthe crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that theshare prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has beenthe response of the authorities to inject funds into the bankingsystem and to inject money also to the households. This has helped tostem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise couldhave resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart whilefollowing the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with theevents!Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of theSAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focusedpredictions.

That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart tomundane astrology.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry wrote:>>> Hello my dear Thor,>> Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.>> Best wishes.>> >>>> - > Cosmologer> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars>>>> Dear Vyas,>>>> Thanks.>>>> The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage

andenterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in thechart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8thlord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned spaceflights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.>>>> Best wishes,>>>> Thor>>>>> > Vyas Munidas <muni>> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars>> Dear Thor,>> Good coverage and call.>>> Best regards,>> Vyas Munidas>> ----- Original Message

----- > "cosmologer" <cosmologer> <SAMVA >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars>>> The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!>> Best wishes,>> Thor>> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negativeaspects.> > Positive:> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury inthe> 7th house.> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th

lord Mars.> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> house> > Negative:> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> 7th house.> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturncould> only suggest the risks involved.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> >> >> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>> > samva > > Sunday,

May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> >> >> > Hello dear list members,> >> > An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting forthe> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about toland on> the planet Mars.> >> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/> >> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes totravel> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasaengineers> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has

been> estimated to be 55%!> >> > Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission willsucceed> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown> unfolded.> > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/launch/blog.html> >> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the2nd> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th houseof> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10thand> 4th houses. 4th

lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house,thereby> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is well> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is inmutual> aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function.Ketu is> placed in the 3rd house away from the

MEP and Rahu is pairwise inthe> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest successfor> the mission.> >> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lordSaturn> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transitVenus> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit3rd> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success.On> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspectfrom> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are alsoafflicting> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bringdifficulty.> >> >

That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord,it> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.> >> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >>>>>> --->>

[Guest guest]

Hello dear Mr. Thor, Every major event raises the level of confidence.

 

Best wishes.

 

-

cosmologer

SAMVA

Monday, May 26, 2008 7:08 PM

Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart [Was: Phoenix...]

 

 

Dear and list members,Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events. Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to throw the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the events!Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to mundane astrology. Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > > Dear Vyas,> > > > Thanks.> > > > The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni>> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > Dear Thor,> > Good coverage and call.> > > Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas> > - > "cosmologer" <cosmologer> <SAMVA >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative aspects.> > Positive:> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in the> 7th house.> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> house> > Negative:> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> 7th house.> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn could> only suggest the risks involved.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> >> >> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>> > samva > > Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> >> >> > Hello dear list members,> >> > An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for the> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to land on> the planet Mars.> >> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/> >> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to travel> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa engineers> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> estimated to be 55%!> >> > Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will succeed> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown> unfolded.> > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/launch/blog.html> >> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the 2nd> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house of> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th and> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, thereby> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is well> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in mutual> aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. Ketu is> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in the> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success for> the mission.> >> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord Saturn> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit Venus> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit 3rd> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. On> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect from> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also afflicting> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring difficulty.> >> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, it> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.> >> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >> > > > > ---> >

[Guest guest]

My dear ,

 

You are right.

 

This was just some rumination about my own understanding.

 

Of course, your own prediction was precise from the beginning.

 

 

in Message #12141 on Sat Jan 6, 2007 1:15 am

 

"In the recently proposed US chart for the 2nd February, 1781, 1705 hours, the transit influences show severe afflictions during middle of March, 2007, to early May, 2007, indicating lot of controversies, emotional involvement of the people in controvercial issues, financial/market setbacks, fatal/serious accidents, weather vagaries/disturbances, setbacks in war fields, etc."

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

SIHA <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 3:20:54 PMRe: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart [Was: Phoenix...]

 

Hello dear Mr. Thor, Every major event raises the level of confidence.

 

Best wishes.

 

-

cosmologer

SAMVA

Monday, May 26, 2008 7:08 PM

Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart [Was: Phoenix...]

 

 

Dear and list members,Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events. Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on

to throw the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some failure in the chart

itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the country also came under strain. The problem was thus that

the transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the events!Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the SAMVA USA

chart is enabling us to make more and better focused predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to mundane astrology. Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@ ...> wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > > Dear Vyas,> > >

> Thanks.> > > > The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni >> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > Dear Thor,> > Good coverage and call.> >

> Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas> > - > "cosmologer" <cosmologer@ ...>> <SAMVA >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@ > wrote:> >> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative aspects.> > Positive:> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in

the> 7th house.> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> house> > Negative:> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> 7th house.> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn could> only suggest the risks involved.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> >> >> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@ >> > samva > >

Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> >> >> > Hello dear list members,> >> > An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for the> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to land on> the planet Mars.> >> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/> >> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to travel> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa engineers> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> estimated to be 55%!> >> > Astrology

can also give us some insight if the mission will succeed> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown> unfolded.> > http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog. html> >> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the 2nd> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house of> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th and> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, thereby> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is

well> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in mutual> aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. Ketu is> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in the> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success for>

the mission.> >> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord Saturn> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit Venus> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit 3rd> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. On> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect from> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also afflicting> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring difficulty.> >> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, it> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.> >> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what

happens.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >