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Dear Thor,U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event connected to US stocks as well as US housing markets.I wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9, 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific days from 8 sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.RegardsAjay.cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear and list members,Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events. Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal

harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to throw the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary

of lending each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn there, creating problems for

financial stability. In turn Jupiter was aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to stem the erosion of

confidence in the markets, that otherwise could have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the events!Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to mundane astrology. Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM>

Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > > Dear Vyas,> > > > Thanks.> > > > The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni>> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > Dear

Thor,> > Good coverage and call.> > > Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas> > - > "cosmologer" <cosmologer> <SAMVA >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative aspects.> > Positive:> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in the> 7th house.> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal

10th lord Mars.> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> house> > Negative:> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> 7th house.> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn could> only suggest the risks involved.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> >> >> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>> > samva > > Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> >> >> > Hello dear list

members,> >> > An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for the> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to land on> the planet Mars.> >> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/> >> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to travel> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa engineers> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> estimated to be 55%!> >> > Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will succeed> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4,

2007,> aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown> unfolded.> > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/launch/blog.html> >> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the 2nd> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house of> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th and> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, thereby> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is well> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in mutual> aspect

with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. Ketu is> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in the> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success for> the mission.> >> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord Saturn> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit Venus> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit

3rd> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. On> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect from> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also afflicting> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring difficulty.> >> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, it> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.> >> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >> > > > > ---> >

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Dear Ajay,

 

Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in terms of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult.

 

Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the strength of planets disposited by it. In particular, transit 2nd lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will

 

 

a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and

b) along with Saturn come under the aspect of natal Rahu in the 10th house and

c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect of transit 6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting aspect from natal Rahu

At that time, transit Rahu will also be conjunct (with slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the 1st house.

 

Such all round affliction is likely to harm the indications of the planets involved.

 

In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be afflicted by natal Saturn in the 5th house.

 

This time will therefore be a very interesting with likely repercussions for the financial markets.

 

When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer.blogspot.com at the end of last year, I suggested what may take place at that time.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

ajay sehg <ajaysehgSAMVA Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

Dear Thor,U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event connected to US stocks as well as US housing markets.I wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9, 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific days from 8 sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.RegardsAjay.cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

Dear and list members,Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events. Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went

on to throw the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some failure in the chart

itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the country also came under strain. The problem was thus that

the transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the events!Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the SAMVA USA

chart is enabling us to make more and better focused predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to mundane astrology. Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@ ...> wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > > Dear Vyas,> > >

> Thanks.> > > > The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni >> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > Dear Thor,> > Good coverage and call.> >

> Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas> > - > "cosmologer" <cosmologer@ ...>> <SAMVA >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@ > wrote:> >> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative aspects.> > Positive:> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in

the> 7th house.> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> house> > Negative:> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> 7th house.> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn could> only suggest the risks involved.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> >> >> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@ >> > samva > >

Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> >> >> > Hello dear list members,> >> > An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for the> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to land on> the planet Mars.> >> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/> >> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to travel> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa engineers> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> estimated to be 55%!> >> > Astrology

can also give us some insight if the mission will succeed> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown> unfolded.> > http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog. html> >> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the 2nd> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house of> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th and> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, thereby> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is

well> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in mutual> aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. Ketu is> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in the> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success for>

the mission.> >> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord Saturn> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit Venus> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit 3rd> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. On> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect from> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also afflicting> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring difficulty.> >> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, it> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.> >> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what

happens.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >

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Dear Thor,Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt. During sept saturn shall be very close to mep of h2 also. So it shall be a very crucial month as stocks could suffer strong setbacks.Thanks a lot for ur Great Works.RegardsAjay.Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Ajay, Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in terms of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult. Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the strength of planets disposited by it. In particular, transit 2nd lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and b) along with Saturn come under the aspect of natal Rahu in the 10th house and c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect of transit 6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting aspect from natal Rahu At that time, transit Rahu will also be conjunct (with slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the 1st house. Such all round affliction is likely to harm the

indications of the planets involved. In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be afflicted by natal Saturn in the 5th house. This time will therefore be a very interesting with likely repercussions for the financial markets. When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer.blogspot.com at the end of last year, I suggested

what may take place at that time. Best wishes, Thor ajay sehg <ajaysehg >SAMVA Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartDear Thor,U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event connected to US stocks as well as US housing markets.I wanted to

draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9, 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific days from 8 sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.RegardsAjay.cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote: Dear and list members,Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the SAMVA USA chart. It has never

failed in explaining the events. Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to throw the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have reduced interest

rates aggressively and injected funds into the banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing

sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did.

The focus was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the events!Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to mundane astrology. Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@ ...> wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > > Dear Vyas,> > > > Thanks.> > > > The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th

lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni >> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > Dear Thor,> > Good coverage and call.> > > Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas> > - > "cosmologer" <cosmologer@ ...>> <SAMVA >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@ > wrote:> >> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative aspects.> > Positive:> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in the> 7th house.> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> house> > Negative:> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct

natal 1st lord Moon - both> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> 7th house.> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn could> only suggest the risks involved.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> >> >> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@ >> > samva > > Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> >> >> > Hello dear list members,> >> > An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for the>

automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to land on> the planet Mars.> >> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/> >> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to travel> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa engineers> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> estimated to be 55%!> >> > Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will succeed> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown>

unfolded.> > http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog. html> >> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the 2nd> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house of> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th and> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, thereby> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is well> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in mutual> aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> placed in

the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. Ketu is> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in the> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success for> the mission.> >> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord Saturn> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit Venus> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit 3rd> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a

success. On> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect from> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also afflicting> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring difficulty.> >> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, it> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.> >> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >

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Dear Ajay,

 

We must be careful to note the situation comprehensively before drawing conclusions. With regard to the Sun, it is 2nd lord and strong by natal placement in the 7th house. While transiting Leo and 2nd house it will also be quite strong - due being in own sign and also being in a Sun-Like-House. It would therefore be expected to withstand quite well the multiple transit afflictions. Moreover, as it is a fast moving body, its weakening is relevant within 1° orb while caught up in these massive afflictions in the 17°-18° Leo.

 

To predict for the stock market at this time, it is also needed to consider all the other placements and afflictions in a like manner. Feel free to do that. It will deepen your understanding of the chart, which would be a good investment by you, as you are interested in mundane predictions.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

ajay sehg <ajaysehgSAMVA Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 3:49:45 PMRe: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

Dear Thor,Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt. During sept saturn shall be very close to mep of h2 also. So it shall be a very crucial month as stocks could suffer strong setbacks.Thanks a lot for ur Great Works.RegardsAjay.Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Ajay,

 

Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in terms of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult.

 

Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the strength of planets disposited by it. In particular, transit 2nd lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will

 

 

a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and

b) along with Saturn come under the aspect of natal Rahu in the 10th house and

c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect of transit 6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting aspect from natal Rahu

At that time, transit Rahu will also be conjunct (with slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the 1st house.

 

Such all round affliction is likely to harm the indications of the planets involved.

 

In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be afflicted by natal Saturn in the 5th house.

 

This time will therefore be a very interesting with likely repercussions for the financial markets.

 

When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer. blogspot. com at the end of last year, I suggested what may take place at that time.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

ajay sehg <ajaysehg >SAMVA Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartDear Thor,U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event connected to US stocks as well as US housing markets.I wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9, 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific

days from 8 sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.RegardsAjay.cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

 

Dear and list members,Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events. Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went

on to throw the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some failure in the chart

itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the country also came under strain. The problem was thus that

the transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the events!Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the SAMVA USA

chart is enabling us to make more and better focused predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to mundane astrology. Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@ ...> wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > > Dear Vyas,> > >

> Thanks.> > > > The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni >> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > Dear Thor,> > Good coverage and call.> >

> Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas> > - > "cosmologer" <cosmologer@ ...>> <SAMVA >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@ > wrote:> >> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative aspects.> > Positive:> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in

the> 7th house.> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> house> > Negative:> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> 7th house.> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn could> only suggest the risks involved.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> >> >> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@ >> > samva > >

Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> >> >> > Hello dear list members,> >> > An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for the> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to land on> the planet Mars.> >> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/> >> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to travel> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa engineers> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> estimated to be 55%!> >> > Astrology

can also give us some insight if the mission will succeed> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown> unfolded.> > http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog. html> >> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the 2nd> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house of> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th and> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, thereby> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is

well> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in mutual> aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. Ketu is> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in the> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success for>

the mission.> >> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord Saturn> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit Venus> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit 3rd> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. On> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect from> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also afflicting> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring difficulty.> >> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, it> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.> >> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what

happens.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >

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I would like to add few tangible combinations rising crude oil :-

 

a) Moon denotes liquid and natal moon in Samva US chart is exactly afflicted by saturn 8th lord .

 

b) Cancer which is again watery and moon sign where mars is deblitated and also is transiting by another malefic ketu.

 

Acc to me crude oil price will mitigate to some extent as saturn affliction to natal moon is seperating but still transit mars and ketu conjunction is waiting a ahead so we might see total relief only from july onwards.

 

Regards

 

--- On Mon, 26/5/08, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

Cosmologer <cosmologerRe: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartSAMVA Date: Monday, 26 May, 2008, 9:35 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ajay,

 

We must be careful to note the situation comprehensively before drawing conclusions. With regard to the Sun, it is 2nd lord and strong by natal placement in the 7th house. While transiting Leo and 2nd house it will also be quite strong - due being in own sign and also being in a Sun-Like-House. It would therefore be expected to withstand quite well the multiple transit afflictions. Moreover, as it is a fast moving body, its weakening is relevant within 1° orb while caught up in these massive afflictions in the 17°-18° Leo.

 

To predict for the stock market at this time, it is also needed to consider all the other placements and afflictions in a like manner. Feel free to do that. It will deepen your understanding of the chart, which would be a good investment by you, as you are interested in mundane predictions.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

ajay sehg <ajaysehg >SAMVA Monday, May 26, 2008 3:49:45 PMRe: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartDear Thor,Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt. During sept saturn shall be very close to mep of h2 also. So it shall be a very crucial month as stocks could suffer strong setbacks.Thanks a lot for ur Great Works.RegardsAjay.Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Ajay,

 

Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in terms of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult.

 

Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the strength of planets disposited by it. In particular, transit 2nd lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will

 

 

a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and

b) along with Saturn come under the aspect of natal Rahu in the 10th house and

c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect of transit 6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting aspect from natal Rahu

At that time, transit Rahu will also be conjunct (with slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the 1st house.

 

Such all round affliction is likely to harm the indications of the planets involved.

 

In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be afflicted by natal Saturn in the 5th house.

 

This time will therefore be a very interesting with likely repercussions for the financial markets.

 

When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer. blogspot. com at the end of last year, I suggested what may take place at that time.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

ajay sehg <ajaysehg >SAMVA Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartDear Thor,U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event connected to US stocks as well as US housing markets.I wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9, 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific

days from 8 sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.RegardsAjay.cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

 

Dear and list members,Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events. Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went

on to throw the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some failure in the chart

itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the country also came under strain. The problem was thus that

the transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the events!Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the SAMVA USA

chart is enabling us to make more and better focused predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to mundane astrology. Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@ ...> wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > > Dear Vyas,> > > > Thanks.> > > > The interesting thing is to see

MARS, the planet of courage and enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni >> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > Dear Thor,> > Good coverage and call.> > > Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas> > - >

"cosmologer" <cosmologer@ ...>> <SAMVA >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@ > wrote:> >> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative aspects.> > Positive:> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in the> 7th house.> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> house> >

Negative:> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> 7th house.> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn could> only suggest the risks involved.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> >> >> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@ >> > samva > > Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> >> >> > Hello dear list members,> >> > An exciting event is taking place today, with

NASA waiting for the> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to land on> the planet Mars.> >> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/> >> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to travel> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa engineers> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> estimated to be 55%!> >> > Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will succeed> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> aboard a Delta II-Heavy

rocket. This is how the launch countdown> unfolded.> > http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog. html> >> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the 2nd> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house of> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th and> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, thereby> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is well> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in mutual> aspect with

Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. Ketu is> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in the> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success for> the mission.> >> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord Saturn> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit Venus> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal

Mars and transit 3rd> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. On> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect from> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also afflicting> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring difficulty.> >> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, it> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.> >> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >

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First of all i would like to thanks professor for creating such a wonderful platform for discussing mundane issues.

 

Adding to it .... I really appreciate the efforts that Mr, thor had devoted to his blog and quite accurate in stock market prediction......As i mentioned before also and again i would like to add some points if he consider in his coming posts, which may helps to improve his accuracy.....

 

a) We expected Aprl wil show some weakness due to placement of Mars (L10) in H12 in SAMVA USA chart and other few malefic combinations ......... but we missed strength of transit planets i.e ......Sun nd Venus were exalted in Aries and Pisces respectively.

 

b) We expected some sort of optimism to return back in market in May-June ..... despite of exact degre affliction of ascendant lord Moon by Transit L8 Saturn nd in the hope that mars will leave SAMVA 12th house ....... but the fact Mars L10 is deblitated in Cancer which makes situation even worse .........in June also L10 debliated Mars will conjuct other malefic Ketu which will make situation even worse.....and from early july L6 will exactly afflict natal L4 in H6.........All this coming combination reflecting market to pass some big roller coaster ride.........definately direction wil be south only.

 

 

I would also like to request respected Prof nd thor ..... if apart from checking overall market trend .....if some kind of effort and you can enlighten us on sector wise prediction it would be great ........

For instance :

 

a) Recently we have seen some rallies in IT ......

b) Some great amount of plunge in Banking and reality sector.

c) Last year from Sep - Dec ..... we have seen some rallies in petro , power industry ...

 

It would be great and gud to learn this rallies based on planetry combination . I hope our SAMVA group will be more popular in Mundane discussion in years to come .Furthermore , it would be of great help to embelish Mr thor Blog .

 

Warm Regards

 

Rahul Vashisht--- On Tue, 27/5/08, rahul vashisht <rahulvashisht_astro wrote:

rahul vashisht <rahulvashisht_astroRe: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartSAMVA Date: Tuesday, 27 May, 2008, 10:05 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Members ...

 

I would like to add few tangible combinations rising crude oil :-

 

a) Moon denotes liquid and natal moon in Samva US chart is exactly afflicted by saturn 8th lord .

 

b) Cancer which is again watery and moon sign where mars is deblitated and also is transiting by another malefic ketu.

 

Acc to me crude oil price will mitigate to some extent as saturn affliction to natal moon is seperating but still transit mars and ketu conjunction is waiting a ahead so we might see total relief only from july onwards.

 

Regards

 

--- On Mon, 26/5/08, Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

Cosmologer <cosmologer >Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartSAMVA Monday, 26 May, 2008, 9:35 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ajay,

 

We must be careful to note the situation comprehensively before drawing conclusions. With regard to the Sun, it is 2nd lord and strong by natal placement in the 7th house. While transiting Leo and 2nd house it will also be quite strong - due being in own sign and also being in a Sun-Like-House. It would therefore be expected to withstand quite well the multiple transit afflictions. Moreover, as it is a fast moving body, its weakening is relevant within 1° orb while caught up in these massive afflictions in the 17°-18° Leo.

 

To predict for the stock market at this time, it is also needed to consider all the other placements and afflictions in a like manner. Feel free to do that. It will deepen your understanding of the chart, which would be a good investment by you, as you are interested in mundane predictions.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

ajay sehg <ajaysehg >SAMVA Monday, May 26, 2008 3:49:45 PMRe: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartDear Thor,Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt. During sept saturn shall be very close to mep of h2 also. So it shall be a very crucial month as stocks could suffer strong setbacks.Thanks a lot for ur Great Works.RegardsAjay.Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Ajay,

 

Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in terms of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult.

 

Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the strength of planets disposited by it. In particular, transit 2nd lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will

 

 

a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and

b) along with Saturn come under the aspect of natal Rahu in the 10th house and

c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect of transit 6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting aspect from natal Rahu

At that time, transit Rahu will also be conjunct (with slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the 1st house.

 

Such all round affliction is likely to harm the indications of the planets involved.

 

In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be afflicted by natal Saturn in the 5th house.

 

This time will therefore be a very interesting with likely repercussions for the financial markets.

 

When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer. blogspot. com at the end of last year, I suggested what may take place at that time.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

ajay sehg <ajaysehg >SAMVA Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartDear Thor,U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event connected to US stocks as well as US housing markets.I wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9, 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific

days from 8 sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.RegardsAjay.cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

 

Dear and list members,Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events. Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones Index dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went

on to throw the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some failure in the chart

itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the country also came under strain. The problem was thus that

the transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the events!Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the SAMVA USA

chart is enabling us to make more and better focused predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to mundane astrology. Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@ ...> wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > > Dear Vyas,> > > > Thanks.> > > > The interesting thing is to see

MARS, the planet of courage and enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni >> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > Dear Thor,> > Good coverage and call.> > > Best regards,> > Vyas Munidas> > - >

"cosmologer" <cosmologer@ ...>> <SAMVA >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> > > The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@ > wrote:> >> > In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative aspects.> > Positive:> > - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in the> 7th house.> > - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> > - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> house> >

Negative:> > - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon - both> under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> > - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th lord> Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> 7th house.> > As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn could> only suggest the risks involved.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> >> >> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@ >> > samva > > Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> > Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> >> >> > Hello dear list members,> >> > An exciting event is taking place today, with

NASA waiting for the> automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to land on> the planet Mars.> >> > It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/> >> > That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to travel> to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa engineers> will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> estimated to be 55%!> >> > Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will succeed> or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off from> Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> aboard a Delta II-Heavy

rocket. This is how the launch countdown> unfolded.> > http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog. html> >> > The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running.> Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the 2nd> house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house of> the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th and> 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, thereby> gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is well> placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in mutual> aspect with

Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> > is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. Ketu is> placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in the> 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success for> the mission.> >> > The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord Saturn> is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit Venus> in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal

Mars and transit 3rd> lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. On> the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect from> transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also afflicting> all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring difficulty.> >> > That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, it> is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.> >> > In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Thor> >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >

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SAMVA , rahul vashisht

<rahulvashisht_astro wrote:

>

> Dear Prof nd Thor

>

> First of all i would like to thanks professor for creating such a

wonderful platform for discussing mundane issues.

 

ACTUALLY, PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY CREATED THE SYSTEMS' APPROACH AND HAS

INSPIRED AND SUPPORTED THE DISCUSSION LISTS. I FOUNDED SAMVA LIST

WITH HIS BLESSING IN NOVEMBER 2000 AND HAVE MODERATED IT SINCE (WITH

THE EXCEPTION OF A LEAVE A FEW YEARS AGO).

 

 

> Adding to it.... I really appreciate the efforts that Mr, thor had

devoted to his blog and quite accurate in stock market

prediction......As i mentioned before also and again i would like to

add some points if he consider in his coming posts, which may helps

to improve his accuracy.....

 

OK

 

> a) We expected Aprl wil show some weakness due to placement of Mars

(L10) in H12 in SAMVA USA chart and other few malefic

combinations ......... but we missed strength of transit planets

i.e ......Sun and Venus were exalted in Aries and Pisces respectively.

 

YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR LONG

PERIODS SOMETIMES THE SHORT RUN INFLUENCES ARE OMITTED. PROFESSOR

CHOUDHRY HAS LONG SINCE AGO ADVISED THAT TO MAKE FINANCIAL MARKET

PREDICTIONS REQUIRES CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF ALL FACTORS. THE EFFORT

HERE WAS SIMPLY TO SIGNAL THE MAJOR ASTROLOGICAL EVENTS, WHICH ARE

ALSO EXPECTED TO HAVE A GREATER INFLUENCE.

 

> b) We expected some sort of optimism to return back in market in

May-June ..... despite of exact degre affliction of ascendant lord

Moon & nbsp by Transit L8 Saturn and in the hope that mars will leave

SAMVA 12th house....... but the fact Mars L10 is deblitated in Cancer

which makes situation even worse .........in June also L10 debliated

Mars will conjuct other malefic Ketu which will make situation even

worse.....and from early july L6 will exactly afflict natal L4 in

H6.........All this coming combination reflecting market to pass some

big roller coaster ride.........definately direction wil be south

only.

 

PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY MADE THE PREDICTION FOR IMPROVEMENT AS TRANSIT

MARS WENT FROM 12TH HOUSE TO 1ST HOUSE IN SAMVA USA CHART, EVEN IF

DEBILITATED. HE WAS CORRECT - AS THE MARKET DEVELOPMENT IN FIRST HALF

OF MAY SUGGESTED.

 

THE IMPACT OF TRANSIT SATURN ON NATAL MOON HAS PERHAPS BEEN REFLECTED

IN - AS EARLIER MENTIONED BY ME - IN THE IMPACT ON THE HIGH OIL PRICE

ON AMERICAN'S REASSESSMENT OF THEIR ENERGY INTENSIVE LIFESTYLE, AS

ALSO REFLECTED IN COMMENTS MADE BY BOTH SEN. OBAMA AND JOHN MCCAIN

AROUND THAT TIME.

 

THE IMPACT OF THE CONJUNCTION OF TRANSIT KETU AND TRANSIT MARS HAS

YET TO BE SEEN.

 

> I would also like to request respected Prof nd thor ..... if apart

from checking overall market trend .....if some kind of effort and

you can enlighten us on sector wise prediction it would be

great ........

 

SAMVA IS NOT AN INVESTMENT SERVICE BUT A FORUM FOR LEARNING SA

ASTROLOGY IN THE MUNDANE SPHERE. WE CAN REACT TO QUESTIONS, BUT NOT

MUCH MORE. TIME IS LIMITING FACTOR. THAT SAID, LIST MEMBERS ARE

INVITED TO MAKE THEIR OWN EFFORT IN SUCH ASSESSMENT.

 

> For instance :

 

> a) Recently we have seen some rallies in IT ......

 

3RD LORD MERCURY IS IMPORTANT IN THIS REGARD. ALSO 10TH LORD MARS.

 

> b) Some great amount of plunge in Banking and reality sector.

 

SUN AND JUPITER ARE IMPORTANT FOR BANKING. 4TH LORD VENUS IS

IMPORTANT FOR REAL ESTATE MARKET.

 

> c) Last year from Sep - Dec ..... we have seen some rallies in

petro, power industry...

 

SATURN FOR OIL AND MARS FOR INDUSTRY. POSSIBLY KETU FOR ELECTRICITY.

 

 

> It would be great and gud to learn this rallies based on planetry

combination . I hope our SAMVA group will be more popular in Mundane

discussion in years to come .Furthermore , it would be of great help

to embelish Mr thor Blog .

 

WITH OVER 700 MEMBERS, SAMVA IS ALREADY QUITE POPULAR. THE TRICK IS

TO ATTRACT MORE DISCUSSION. YOUR EFFORT IS GOOD AND WELCOME IN THIS

REGARD.

 

WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND TO " EMBELLISH " THE BLOG? LIST MEMBERS ARE

WELCOME TO START THEIR OWN BLOGS AND INVEST TIME AND EFFORT IN MAKING

IT LOOK AS ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE. I HAVE TRIED TO MAKE IT

INTERESTING BY ADDING RELEVANT PHOTOS, DESIGNING TRANSIT GRAPHS AND

SHOWING NATAL AND TRANSIT CHARTS, SOMETIMES ANNOTATED, ETC. IS THAT

SOMEHOW NOT ENOUGH?

 

> Warm Regards

 

> Rahul Vashisht

> --- On Tue, 27/5/08, rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_astro wrote:

>

> rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_astro

> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

> SAMVA

> Tuesday, 27 May, 2008, 10:05 PM

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Members ...

> & nbsp;

> I would like to & nbsp;add few tangible combinations rising

& nbsp;crude oil :-

> & nbsp;

> a) Moon denotes liquid and natal moon in Samva US chart is exactly

afflicted by saturn 8th lord .

> & nbsp;

> b) Cancer & nbsp;which is again watery & nbsp; and moon sign where mars

is deblitated and also is transiting & nbsp;by another malefic ketu.

> & nbsp;

> Acc to me crude oil price will & nbsp;mitigate to some extent as

saturn affliction & nbsp;to & nbsp;natal moon & nbsp;is & nbsp;seperating but

still & nbsp;transit mars and ketu conjunction is waiting & nbsp;a ahead

so we might see total relief only from july onwards.

> & nbsp;

> Regards

> & nbsp;

>

>

> --- On Mon, 26/5/08, Cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote:

>

> Cosmologer cosmologer & gt;

> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

> SAMVA

> Monday, 26 May, 2008, 9:35 PM

Dear Ajay,

> & nbsp;

> We must be careful to note the situation

comprehensively & nbsp;before drawing conclusions. With regard to

the & nbsp;Sun, & nbsp;it & nbsp;is 2nd lord and strong by natal placement

in the 7th house. & nbsp;While transiting & nbsp;Leo and 2nd

house & nbsp;it will also be & nbsp;quite strong - due being in own sign

and also being in a Sun-Like-House. It would therefore be expected to

withstand & nbsp;quite well the multiple transit afflictions.

Moreover, & nbsp;as it is & nbsp;a fast moving body, its & nbsp;weakening

is relevant & nbsp;within 1° orb while caught up in these massive

afflictions in the 17°-18° Leo.

> & nbsp;

> To predict for the stock market at this time, it is also needed to

consider all the & nbsp;other placements and afflictions in a like

manner. Feel free to do that. It will deepen your understanding of

the chart, which would be a good investment by you, as you are

interested in mundane predictions.

> & nbsp;

> Best wishes,

> & nbsp;

> Thor

>

>

>

> ajay sehg ajaysehg & gt;

> SAMVA

> Monday, May 26, 2008 3:49:45 PM

> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

>

> Dear Thor,

>

> Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt. During sept saturn shall be

very close to mep of h2 also. So it shall be a very crucial month as

stocks could suffer strong setbacks.

>

> Thanks a lot for ur Great Works.

>

> Regards

> Ajay.

>

>

> Cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Dear Ajay,

> & nbsp;

> Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in terms

of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult.

> & nbsp;

> Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the

strength of & nbsp;planets disposited by it. In particular, transit 2nd

lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will

> & nbsp;

>

> & nbsp;a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and

> & nbsp;b) & nbsp;along with Saturn come under the aspect of natal Rahu

in the 10th house and & nbsp;

> & nbsp;c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect of transit

6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting

aspect from natal Rahu

> At that time, & nbsp;transit Rahu will also & nbsp;be conjunct (with

slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will

also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and

where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the 1st

house.

> & nbsp;

> Such all round affliction is likely to harm the indications of the

planets involved.

> & nbsp;

> In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be afflicted

by natal Saturn in the 5th house.

> & nbsp;

> This time & nbsp;will therefore be a very & nbsp;interesting with

likely repercussions for the financial markets.

> & nbsp;

> When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer. blogspot. com

at the end of last year, I suggested what may take place at that time.

> & nbsp;

> Best wishes,

> & nbsp;

> Thor

>

>

>

> ajay sehg ajaysehg & gt;

> SAMVA

> Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM

> Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

>

> Dear Thor,

>

> U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event

connected to US stocks as well as US & nbsp;housing markets.

>

> I wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9,

2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be

exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same

time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in

transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is

stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall

markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific days from 8

sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall

gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a

benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.

>

> Regards

> Ajay.

>

> cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote:

>

>

> Dear and list members,

>

> Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the

> SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events.

>

> Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts

> at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market

> to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point

> prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%.

This

> prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of

transit

> Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of

communal

> harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of

the

> year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-

> prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007. The Dow Jones

Index

> dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of

> 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to

throw

> the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of the

> year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have

> reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the

> banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank.

On

> the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-

> crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the

> banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding

> needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the

banks

> continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending

> each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions

of

> dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been

resolved

> and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward.

If

> there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not some

> failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a

> misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed,

an

> affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the

housing

> sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should

be

> expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting

the

> financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the

> dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial

> stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the

chart

> where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn

> there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter

was

> aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence,

> this signaled obstructions to " easy gains " . As Saturn was also

> aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the

> country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the

> transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked

to

> losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the

> prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The

focus

> was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but

not

> by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of

> the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the

> share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been

> the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking

> system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped

to

> stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could

> have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while

> following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with

the

> events!

>

> Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the

> SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused

> predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart

to

> mundane astrology.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , " SIHA " & lt;vkchoudhry@ ... & gt; wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Hello my dear Thor,

> & gt;

> & gt; Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.

> & gt;

> & gt; Best wishes.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; -

> & gt; Cosmologer

> & gt; SAMVA

> & gt; Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM

> & gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on

Mars

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Vyas,

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Thanks.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage

and

> enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the

> chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th

> lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned

space

> flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Best wishes,

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Thor

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Vyas Munidas munidas@ & gt;

> & gt; SAMVA

> & gt; Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM

> & gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on

Mars

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Thor,

> & gt;

> & gt; Good coverage and call.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Best regards,

> & gt;

> & gt; Vyas Munidas

> & gt;

> & gt; -

> & gt; " cosmologer " & lt;cosmologer@ ... & gt;

> & gt; SAMVA & gt;

> & gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM

> & gt; Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!

> & gt;

> & gt; Best wishes,

> & gt;

> & gt; Thor

> & gt;

> & gt; SAMVA , Cosmologer & lt;cosmologer@ & gt;

wrote:

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and

negative

> aspects.

> & gt; & gt; Positive:

> & gt; & gt; - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord

Mercury in

> the

> & gt; 7th house.

> & gt; & gt; - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.

> & gt; & gt; - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in

the 7th

> & gt; house

> & gt; & gt; Negative:

> & gt; & gt; - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon -

both

> & gt; under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.

> & gt; & gt; - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th

lord

> & gt; Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in

the

> & gt; 7th house.

> & gt; & gt; As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord

Saturn

> could

> & gt; only suggest the risks involved.

> & gt; & gt; Best wishes,

> & gt; & gt; Thor

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; Cosmologer & lt;cosmologer@ & gt;

> & gt; & gt; samva

> & gt; & gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM

> & gt; & gt; Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; Hello dear list members,

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA

waiting for

> the

> & gt; automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to

> land on

> & gt; the planet Mars.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:

> & gt; http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes

to

> travel

> & gt; to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa

> engineers

> & gt; will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some

> & gt; minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been

> & gt; estimated to be 55%!

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission

will

> succeed

> & gt; or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix lifted off

from

> & gt; Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4,

2007,

> & gt; aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch

countdown

> & gt; unfolded.

> & gt; & gt; http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog.

html

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period

running..

> & gt; Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in

the

> 2nd

> & gt; house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th

house

> of

> & gt; the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the

10th

> and

> & gt; 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house,

> thereby

> & gt; gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck is well

> & gt; placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in

> & gt; infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional

strength

> & gt; being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in

> mutual

> & gt; aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly

> & gt; placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is

> & gt; just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord

> & gt; of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also

> & gt; receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this

> & gt; chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy

> & gt; & gt; is located in the 6th house of conflict and good

function.

> Ketu is

> & gt; placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise

in

> the

> & gt; 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The

significant

> & gt; influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest

success

> for

> & gt; the mission.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th

lord

> Saturn

> & gt; is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects

transit

> Venus

> & gt; in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and

transit

> 3rd

> & gt; lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a

success.

> On

> & gt; the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the

> & gt; placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an

aspect

> from

> & gt; transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also

> afflicting

> & gt; all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring

> difficulty.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th

lord,

> it

> & gt; is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some

planets in

> & gt; the 12th house and affliction by the nodes.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; Best wishes,

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; Thor

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

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> & gt;

> & gt;

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Dear Thor.

 

I appreciate the time had devoted in replying my querries nd clearing doubts......but my qs was nt to hurt any body feelings nd may be u missed my point ..... .

 

a) I never said .... that dis group is for investment purpose ......i was not intersted to learn something more from learned members like you and prof.

 

b) May be i used wrong word "Embellish " ,,,,, but i never said ur blog is not beautiful .... infact photographs , graph etc had made it very attractive ....i juz wanted to convery those viistors who are more intersted in stock market astrology would learn something from ur blog if u could add sector wise prediction in stock market prediction column...

 

c)I don't play in stock's .... so i not investor ... juz want to clear my concepts from respecred memebers of this community.

 

I hope i have'nt hurt nybodies feeling nd if i did i really appologise for same.

 

Regards

 

Rahul

 

--- On Mon, 2/6/08, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

cosmologer <cosmologer Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartSAMVA Date: Monday, 2 June, 2008, 4:52 PM

 

 

Dear Rahul,I add replies in UPPER CASE below.Best,ThorSAMVA , rahul vashisht <rahulvashisht_ astro > wrote:>> Dear Prof nd Thor > > First of all i would like to thanks professor for creating such a wonderful platform for discussing mundane issues.ACTUALLY, PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY CREATED THE SYSTEMS' APPROACH AND HAS INSPIRED AND SUPPORTED THE DISCUSSION LISTS. I FOUNDED SAMVA LIST WITH HIS BLESSING IN NOVEMBER 2000 AND HAVE MODERATED IT SINCE (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A LEAVE A FEW YEARS AGO). > Adding to it.... I really appreciate the efforts that Mr, thor had devoted to his blog and quite accurate in stock market prediction.. ....As i mentioned before also and again i would like to add some points if he consider in his coming posts, which may

helps to improve his accuracy.... .OK> a) We expected Aprl wil show some weakness due to placement of Mars (L10) in H12 in SAMVA USA chart and other few malefic combinations ......... but we missed strength of transit planets i.e ......Sun and Venus were exalted in Aries and Pisces respectively.YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR LONG PERIODS SOMETIMES THE SHORT RUN INFLUENCES ARE OMITTED. PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY HAS LONG SINCE AGO ADVISED THAT TO MAKE FINANCIAL MARKET PREDICTIONS REQUIRES CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF ALL FACTORS. THE EFFORT HERE WAS SIMPLY TO SIGNAL THE MAJOR ASTROLOGICAL EVENTS, WHICH ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO HAVE A GREATER INFLUENCE.> b) We expected some sort of optimism to return back in market in May-June ..... despite of exact degre affliction of ascendant lord Moon & nbsp by Transit L8 Saturn and in the hope that mars will leave

SAMVA 12th house....... but the fact Mars L10 is deblitated in Cancer which makes situation even worse .........in June also L10 debliated Mars will conjuct other malefic Ketu which will make situation even worse.....and from early july L6 will exactly afflict natal L4 in H6..........All this coming combination reflecting market to pass some big roller coaster ride........ .definately direction wil be south only.PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY MADE THE PREDICTION FOR IMPROVEMENT AS TRANSIT MARS WENT FROM 12TH HOUSE TO 1ST HOUSE IN SAMVA USA CHART, EVEN IF DEBILITATED. HE WAS CORRECT - AS THE MARKET DEVELOPMENT IN FIRST HALF OF MAY SUGGESTED.THE IMPACT OF TRANSIT SATURN ON NATAL MOON HAS PERHAPS BEEN REFLECTED IN - AS EARLIER MENTIONED BY ME - IN THE IMPACT ON THE HIGH OIL PRICE ON AMERICAN'S REASSESSMENT OF THEIR ENERGY INTENSIVE LIFESTYLE, AS ALSO REFLECTED IN COMMENTS MADE BY BOTH SEN. OBAMA AND

JOHN MCCAIN AROUND THAT TIME.THE IMPACT OF THE CONJUNCTION OF TRANSIT KETU AND TRANSIT MARS HAS YET TO BE SEEN.> I would also like to request respected Prof nd thor ..... if apart from checking overall market trend .....if some kind of effort and you can enlighten us on sector wise prediction it would be great ........SAMVA IS NOT AN INVESTMENT SERVICE BUT A FORUM FOR LEARNING SA ASTROLOGY IN THE MUNDANE SPHERE. WE CAN REACT TO QUESTIONS, BUT NOT MUCH MORE. TIME IS LIMITING FACTOR. THAT SAID, LIST MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO MAKE THEIR OWN EFFORT IN SUCH ASSESSMENT. > For instance :> a) Recently we have seen some rallies in IT ......3RD LORD MERCURY IS IMPORTANT IN THIS REGARD. ALSO 10TH LORD MARS.> b) Some great amount of plunge in Banking and reality sector.SUN AND JUPITER ARE IMPORTANT FOR BANKING. 4TH LORD VENUS IS IMPORTANT FOR REAL ESTATE

MARKET.> c) Last year from Sep - Dec ..... we have seen some rallies in petro, power industry...SATURN FOR OIL AND MARS FOR INDUSTRY. POSSIBLY KETU FOR ELECTRICITY.> It would be great and gud to learn this rallies based on planetry combination . I hope our SAMVA group will be more popular in Mundane discussion in years to come .Furthermore , it would be of great help to embelish Mr thor Blog .WITH OVER 700 MEMBERS, SAMVA IS ALREADY QUITE POPULAR. THE TRICK IS TO ATTRACT MORE DISCUSSION. YOUR EFFORT IS GOOD AND WELCOME IN THIS REGARD.WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND TO "EMBELLISH" THE BLOG? LIST MEMBERS ARE WELCOME TO START THEIR OWN BLOGS AND INVEST TIME AND EFFORT IN MAKING IT LOOK AS ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE. I HAVE TRIED TO MAKE IT INTERESTING BY ADDING RELEVANT PHOTOS, DESIGNING TRANSIT GRAPHS AND SHOWING NATAL AND TRANSIT CHARTS, SOMETIMES ANNOTATED, ETC. IS THAT

SOMEHOW NOT ENOUGH? > Warm Regards> Rahul Vashisht> --- On Tue, 27/5/08, rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_ astro wrote:> > rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_ astro Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> SAMVA > Tuesday, 27 May, 2008, 10:05 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members ...> & nbsp;> I would like to & nbsp;add few tangible combinations rising & nbsp;crude oil :-> & nbsp;> a) Moon denotes liquid and natal moon in Samva US chart is exactly afflicted by saturn 8th lord .> & nbsp;> b) Cancer & nbsp; which is again watery & nbsp; and moon sign where mars is deblitated and also is transiting & nbsp; by

another malefic ketu.> & nbsp;> Acc to me crude oil price will & nbsp;mitigate to some extent as saturn affliction & nbsp; to & nbsp;natal moon & nbsp;is & nbsp;seperating but still & nbsp;transit mars and ketu conjunction is waiting & nbsp; a ahead so we might see total relief only from july onwards.> & nbsp;> Regards> & nbsp;> > > --- On Mon, 26/5/08, Cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote:> > Cosmologer cosmologer & gt;> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> SAMVA > Monday, 26 May, 2008, 9:35 PM> > > > > > > Dear Ajay,> & nbsp;> We must be careful to note the situation comprehensively & nbsp;before drawing conclusions. With regard to the & nbsp;Sun, & nbsp;it & nbsp;is

2nd lord and strong by natal placement in the 7th house. & nbsp; While transiting & nbsp; Leo and 2nd house & nbsp;it will also be & nbsp;quite strong - due being in own sign and also being in a Sun-Like-House. It would therefore be expected to withstand & nbsp; quite well the multiple transit afflictions. Moreover, & nbsp; as it is & nbsp;a fast moving body, its & nbsp;weakening is relevant & nbsp; within 1° orb while caught up in these massive afflictions in the 17°-18° Leo. > & nbsp;> To predict for the stock market at this time, it is also needed to consider all the & nbsp;other placements and afflictions in a like manner. Feel free to do that. It will deepen your understanding of the chart, which would be a good investment by you, as you are interested in mundane predictions.> & nbsp;> Best wishes,> & nbsp;> Thor>

> > > ajay sehg ajaysehg & gt;> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:49:45 PM> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> > Dear Thor,> > Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt. During sept saturn shall be very close to mep of h2 also. So it shall be a very crucial month as stocks could suffer strong setbacks.> > Thanks a lot for ur Great Works.> > Regards> Ajay.> > > Cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote: > > > > > Dear Ajay,> & nbsp;> Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in terms of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult. > & nbsp;> Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the strength

of & nbsp;planets disposited by it. In particular, transit 2nd lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will > & nbsp;> > & nbsp;a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and> & nbsp;b) & nbsp; along with Saturn come under the aspect of natal Rahu in the 10th house and & nbsp;> & nbsp;c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect of transit 6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting aspect from natal Rahu> At that time, & nbsp;transit Rahu will also & nbsp;be conjunct (with slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the 1st house. > & nbsp;> Such all round affliction is likely to harm the indications of the planets involved.>

& nbsp;> In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be afflicted by natal Saturn in the 5th house. > & nbsp;> This time & nbsp;will therefore be a very & nbsp;interesti ng with likely repercussions for the financial markets.> & nbsp;> When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer. blogspot. com at the end of last year, I suggested what may take place at that time.> & nbsp;> Best wishes,> & nbsp;> Thor> > > > ajay sehg ajaysehg & gt;> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM> Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> > Dear Thor,> > U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event connected to US stocks as well as US & nbsp;housing markets.> > I

wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9, 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific days from 8 sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.> > Regards> Ajay.> > cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote: > > > Dear and list members,> > Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the > SAMVA USA chart.

It has never failed in explaining the events. > > Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts > at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market > to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point > prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This > prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit > Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal > harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the > year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-> prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007.. The Dow Jones Index > dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of > 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to throw > the global financial market into

turmoil for the remainder of the > year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have > reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the > banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On > the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-> crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the > banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding > needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks > continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending > each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of > dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved > and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If > there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not

some > failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a > misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an > affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing > sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be > expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the > financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the > dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial > stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart > where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn > there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was > aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, > this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also > aspecting

natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the > country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the > transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to > losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the > prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus > was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not > by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of > the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the > share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been > the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking > system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to > stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could > have resulted. In any event, we can learn from

the chart while > following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the > events!> > Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the > SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused > predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to > mundane astrology. > > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , "SIHA" & lt;vkchoudhry@ ... & gt; wrote:> & gt;> & gt; > & gt; Hello my dear Thor,> & gt; > & gt; Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> & gt; > & gt; Best wishes.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; - > & gt; Cosmologer > & gt; SAMVA > & gt;

Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> & gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Dear Vyas,> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Thanks.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and > enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the > chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th > lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space > flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Best wishes,> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Thor> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt;

> & gt; > & gt; Vyas Munidas munidas@ & gt;> & gt; SAMVA > & gt; Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> & gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; > & gt; Dear Thor,> & gt; > & gt; Good coverage and call.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Best regards,> & gt; > & gt; Vyas Munidas> & gt; > & gt; - > & gt; "cosmologer" & lt;cosmologer@ ... & gt;> & gt; SAMVA & gt;> & gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> & gt; Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> & gt; >

& gt; Best wishes,> & gt; > & gt; Thor> & gt; > & gt; SAMVA , Cosmologer & lt;cosmologer@ & gt; wrote:> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative > aspects.> & gt; & gt; Positive:> & gt; & gt; - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in > the> & gt; 7th house.> & gt; & gt; - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> & gt; & gt; - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> & gt; house> & gt; & gt; Negative:> & gt; & gt; - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon -both> & gt; under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> & gt; & gt; - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th

lord> & gt; Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> & gt; 7th house.> & gt; & gt; As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn > could> & gt; only suggest the risks involved.> & gt; & gt; Best wishes,> & gt; & gt; Thor> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Cosmologer & lt;cosmologer@ & gt;> & gt; & gt; samva > & gt; & gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> & gt; & gt; Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Hello dear list members,> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for >

the> & gt; automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to > land on> & gt; the planet Mars.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> & gt; http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to > travel> & gt; to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa > engineers> & gt; will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> & gt; minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> & gt; estimated to be 55%!> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will > succeed> & gt; or not, based on the chart of the launch.

Phoenix lifted off from> & gt; Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> & gt; aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown> & gt; unfolded.> & gt; & gt; http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog. html> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running..> & gt; Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the > 2nd> & gt; house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house > of> & gt; the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th > and> & gt; 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, > thereby> & gt; gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck

is well> & gt; placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> & gt; infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> & gt; being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in > mutual> & gt; aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> & gt; placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> & gt; just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> & gt; of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> & gt; receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> & gt; chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> & gt; & gt; is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. > Ketu is> & gt; placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in > the> & gt; 9th house. The

nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> & gt; influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success > for> & gt; the mission.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord > Saturn> & gt; is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit > Venus> & gt; in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit > 3rd> & gt; lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. > On> & gt; the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> & gt; placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect > from> & gt; transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also > afflicting> & gt; all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring

> difficulty.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, > it> & gt; is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> & gt; the 12th house and affliction by the nodes..> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Best wishes,> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Thor> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt;> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; ------------ --------- --------- ------> & gt; > & gt;

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Sorry my typing mistake ...i mean i was intersted in learning from u and other learned memebers .

 

I don't know why sometime it's difficult to open your blog , do u know whats the problem ??

 

Regards

 

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rahul vashisht <rahulvashisht_astroRe: Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartSAMVA Date: Monday, 2 June, 2008, 5:42 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Thor.

 

I appreciate the time had devoted in replying my querries nd clearing doubts...... but my qs was nt to hurt any body feelings nd may be u missed my point ..... .

 

a) I never said .... that dis group is for investment purpose ......i was not intersted to learn something more from learned members like you and prof.

 

b) May be i used wrong word "Embellish " ,,,,, but i never said ur blog is not beautiful .... infact photographs , graph etc had made it very attractive ....i juz wanted to convery those viistors who are more intersted in stock market astrology would learn something from ur blog if u could add sector wise prediction in stock market prediction column...

 

c)I don't play in stock's .... so i not investor ... juz want to clear my concepts from respecred memebers of this community.

 

I hope i have'nt hurt nybodies feeling nd if i did i really appologise for same.

 

Regards

 

Rahul

 

--- On Mon, 2/6/08, cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote:

cosmologer <cosmologer > Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartSAMVA Monday, 2 June, 2008, 4:52 PM

 

 

Dear Rahul,I add replies in UPPER CASE below.Best,ThorSAMVA , rahul vashisht <rahulvashisht_ astro > wrote:>> Dear Prof nd Thor > > First of all i would like to thanks professor for creating such a wonderful platform for discussing mundane issues.ACTUALLY, PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY CREATED THE SYSTEMS' APPROACH AND HAS INSPIRED AND SUPPORTED THE DISCUSSION LISTS. I FOUNDED SAMVA LIST WITH HIS BLESSING IN NOVEMBER 2000 AND HAVE MODERATED IT SINCE (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A LEAVE A FEW YEARS AGO). > Adding to it.... I really appreciate the efforts that Mr, thor had devoted to his blog and quite accurate in stock market prediction.. ....As i mentioned before also and again i would like to add some points if he consider in his coming posts, which may

helps to improve his accuracy.... .OK> a) We expected Aprl wil show some weakness due to placement of Mars (L10) in H12 in SAMVA USA chart and other few malefic combinations ......... but we missed strength of transit planets i.e ......Sun and Venus were exalted in Aries and Pisces respectively.YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR LONG PERIODS SOMETIMES THE SHORT RUN INFLUENCES ARE OMITTED. PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY HAS LONG SINCE AGO ADVISED THAT TO MAKE FINANCIAL MARKET PREDICTIONS REQUIRES CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF ALL FACTORS. THE EFFORT HERE WAS SIMPLY TO SIGNAL THE MAJOR ASTROLOGICAL EVENTS, WHICH ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO HAVE A GREATER INFLUENCE.> b) We expected some sort of optimism to return back in market in May-June ..... despite of exact degre affliction of ascendant lord Moon & nbsp by Transit L8 Saturn and in the hope that mars will leave

SAMVA 12th house....... but the fact Mars L10 is deblitated in Cancer which makes situation even worse .........in June also L10 debliated Mars will conjuct other malefic Ketu which will make situation even worse.....and from early july L6 will exactly afflict natal L4 in H6........... All this coming combination reflecting market to pass some big roller coaster ride........ .definately direction wil be south only.PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY MADE THE PREDICTION FOR IMPROVEMENT AS TRANSIT MARS WENT FROM 12TH HOUSE TO 1ST HOUSE IN SAMVA USA CHART, EVEN IF DEBILITATED. HE WAS CORRECT - AS THE MARKET DEVELOPMENT IN FIRST HALF OF MAY SUGGESTED.THE IMPACT OF TRANSIT SATURN ON NATAL MOON HAS PERHAPS BEEN REFLECTED IN - AS EARLIER MENTIONED BY ME - IN THE IMPACT ON THE HIGH OIL PRICE ON AMERICAN'S REASSESSMENT OF THEIR ENERGY INTENSIVE LIFESTYLE, AS ALSO REFLECTED IN COMMENTS MADE BY BOTH SEN. OBAMA AND

JOHN MCCAIN AROUND THAT TIME.THE IMPACT OF THE CONJUNCTION OF TRANSIT KETU AND TRANSIT MARS HAS YET TO BE SEEN.> I would also like to request respected Prof nd thor ..... if apart from checking overall market trend .....if some kind of effort and you can enlighten us on sector wise prediction it would be great ........SAMVA IS NOT AN INVESTMENT SERVICE BUT A FORUM FOR LEARNING SA ASTROLOGY IN THE MUNDANE SPHERE. WE CAN REACT TO QUESTIONS, BUT NOT MUCH MORE. TIME IS LIMITING FACTOR. THAT SAID, LIST MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO MAKE THEIR OWN EFFORT IN SUCH ASSESSMENT. > For instance :> a) Recently we have seen some rallies in IT ......3RD LORD MERCURY IS IMPORTANT IN THIS REGARD. ALSO 10TH LORD MARS.> b) Some great amount of plunge in Banking and reality sector.SUN AND JUPITER ARE IMPORTANT FOR BANKING. 4TH LORD VENUS IS IMPORTANT FOR REAL ESTATE

MARKET.> c) Last year from Sep - Dec ..... we have seen some rallies in petro, power industry...SATURN FOR OIL AND MARS FOR INDUSTRY. POSSIBLY KETU FOR ELECTRICITY.> It would be great and gud to learn this rallies based on planetry combination . I hope our SAMVA group will be more popular in Mundane discussion in years to come .Furthermore , it would be of great help to embelish Mr thor Blog .WITH OVER 700 MEMBERS, SAMVA IS ALREADY QUITE POPULAR. THE TRICK IS TO ATTRACT MORE DISCUSSION. YOUR EFFORT IS GOOD AND WELCOME IN THIS REGARD.WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND TO "EMBELLISH" THE BLOG? LIST MEMBERS ARE WELCOME TO START THEIR OWN BLOGS AND INVEST TIME AND EFFORT IN MAKING IT LOOK AS ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE. I HAVE TRIED TO MAKE IT INTERESTING BY ADDING RELEVANT PHOTOS, DESIGNING TRANSIT GRAPHS AND SHOWING NATAL AND TRANSIT CHARTS, SOMETIMES ANNOTATED, ETC. IS THAT

SOMEHOW NOT ENOUGH? > Warm Regards> Rahul Vashisht> --- On Tue, 27/5/08, rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_ astro wrote:> > rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_ astro Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> SAMVA > Tuesday, 27 May, 2008, 10:05 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members ...> & nbsp;> I would like to & nbsp;add few tangible combinations rising & nbsp;crude oil :-> & nbsp;> a) Moon denotes liquid and natal moon in Samva US chart is exactly afflicted by saturn 8th lord .> & nbsp;> b) Cancer & nbsp; which is again watery & nbsp; and moon sign where mars is deblitated and also is transiting & nbsp; by

another malefic ketu.> & nbsp;> Acc to me crude oil price will & nbsp;mitigate to some extent as saturn affliction & nbsp; to & nbsp;natal moon & nbsp;is & nbsp;seperating but still & nbsp;transit mars and ketu conjunction is waiting & nbsp; a ahead so we might see total relief only from july onwards.> & nbsp;> Regards> & nbsp;> > > --- On Mon, 26/5/08, Cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote:> > Cosmologer cosmologer & gt;> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> SAMVA > Monday, 26 May, 2008, 9:35 PM> > > > > > > Dear Ajay,> & nbsp;> We must be careful to note the situation comprehensively & nbsp;before drawing conclusions. With regard to the & nbsp;Sun, & nbsp;it & nbsp;is

2nd lord and strong by natal placement in the 7th house. & nbsp; While transiting & nbsp; Leo and 2nd house & nbsp;it will also be & nbsp;quite strong - due being in own sign and also being in a Sun-Like-House. It would therefore be expected to withstand & nbsp; quite well the multiple transit afflictions. Moreover, & nbsp; as it is & nbsp;a fast moving body, its & nbsp;weakening is relevant & nbsp; within 1° orb while caught up in these massive afflictions in the 17°-18° Leo. > & nbsp;> To predict for the stock market at this time, it is also needed to consider all the & nbsp;other placements and afflictions in a like manner. Feel free to do that. It will deepen your understanding of the chart, which would be a good investment by you, as you are interested in mundane predictions.> & nbsp;> Best wishes,> & nbsp;> Thor>

> > > ajay sehg ajaysehg & gt;> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:49:45 PM> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> > Dear Thor,> > Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt. During sept saturn shall be very close to mep of h2 also. So it shall be a very crucial month as stocks could suffer strong setbacks.> > Thanks a lot for ur Great Works.> > Regards> Ajay.> > > Cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote: > > > > > Dear Ajay,> & nbsp;> Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in terms of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult. > & nbsp;> Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the strength

of & nbsp;planets disposited by it. In particular, transit 2nd lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will > & nbsp;> > & nbsp;a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and> & nbsp;b) & nbsp; along with Saturn come under the aspect of natal Rahu in the 10th house and & nbsp;> & nbsp;c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect of transit 6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting aspect from natal Rahu> At that time, & nbsp;transit Rahu will also & nbsp;be conjunct (with slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the 1st house. > & nbsp;> Such all round affliction is likely to harm the indications of the planets involved.>

& nbsp;> In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be afflicted by natal Saturn in the 5th house. > & nbsp;> This time & nbsp;will therefore be a very & nbsp;interesti ng with likely repercussions for the financial markets.> & nbsp;> When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer. blogspot. com at the end of last year, I suggested what may take place at that time.> & nbsp;> Best wishes,> & nbsp;> Thor> > > > ajay sehg ajaysehg & gt;> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM> Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> > Dear Thor,> > U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event connected to US stocks as well as US & nbsp;housing markets.> > I

wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9, 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific days from 8 sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.> > Regards> Ajay.> > cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote: > > > Dear and list members,> > Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the > SAMVA USA chart.

It has never failed in explaining the events. > > Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts > at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market > to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point > prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This > prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit > Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal > harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the > year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-> prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007... The Dow Jones Index > dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of > 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to throw > the global financial market into

turmoil for the remainder of the > year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have > reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the > banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On > the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-> crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the > banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding > needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks > continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending > each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of > dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved > and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If > there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not

some > failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a > misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an > affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing > sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be > expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the > financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the > dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial > stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart > where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn > there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was > aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, > this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also > aspecting

natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the > country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the > transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to > losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the > prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus > was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not > by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of > the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the > share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been > the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking > system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to > stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could > have resulted. In any event, we can learn from

the chart while > following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the > events!> > Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the > SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused > predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to > mundane astrology. > > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , "SIHA" & lt;vkchoudhry@ ... & gt; wrote:> & gt;> & gt; > & gt; Hello my dear Thor,> & gt; > & gt; Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> & gt; > & gt; Best wishes.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; - > & gt; Cosmologer > & gt; SAMVA > & gt;

Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> & gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Dear Vyas,> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Thanks.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and > enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the > chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th > lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space > flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Best wishes,> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Thor> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt;

> & gt; > & gt; Vyas Munidas munidas@ & gt;> & gt; SAMVA > & gt; Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> & gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; > & gt; Dear Thor,> & gt; > & gt; Good coverage and call.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Best regards,> & gt; > & gt; Vyas Munidas> & gt; > & gt; - > & gt; "cosmologer" & lt;cosmologer@ ... & gt;> & gt; SAMVA & gt;> & gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> & gt; Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> & gt; >

& gt; Best wishes,> & gt; > & gt; Thor> & gt; > & gt; SAMVA , Cosmologer & lt;cosmologer@ & gt; wrote:> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative > aspects.> & gt; & gt; Positive:> & gt; & gt; - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in > the> & gt; 7th house.> & gt; & gt; - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> & gt; & gt; - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> & gt; house> & gt; & gt; Negative:> & gt; & gt; - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon -both> & gt; under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> & gt; & gt; - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th

lord> & gt; Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> & gt; 7th house.> & gt; & gt; As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn > could> & gt; only suggest the risks involved.> & gt; & gt; Best wishes,> & gt; & gt; Thor> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Cosmologer & lt;cosmologer@ & gt;> & gt; & gt; samva > & gt; & gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> & gt; & gt; Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Hello dear list members,> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for >

the> & gt; automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to > land on> & gt; the planet Mars.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> & gt; http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to > travel> & gt; to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa > engineers> & gt; will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> & gt; minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> & gt; estimated to be 55%!> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will > succeed> & gt; or not, based on the chart of the launch.

Phoenix lifted off from> & gt; Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> & gt; aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown> & gt; unfolded.> & gt; & gt; http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog. html> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running..> & gt; Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the > 2nd> & gt; house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house > of> & gt; the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th > and> & gt; 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, > thereby> & gt; gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck

is well> & gt; placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> & gt; infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> & gt; being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in > mutual> & gt; aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> & gt; placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> & gt; just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> & gt; of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> & gt; receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> & gt; chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> & gt; & gt; is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. > Ketu is> & gt; placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in > the> & gt; 9th house. The

nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> & gt; influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success > for> & gt; the mission.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord > Saturn> & gt; is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit > Venus> & gt; in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit > 3rd> & gt; lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. > On> & gt; the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> & gt; placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect > from> & gt; transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also > afflicting> & gt; all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring

> difficulty.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, > it> & gt; is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> & gt; the 12th house and affliction by the nodes...> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Best wishes,> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Thor> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt;> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; ------------ --------- --------- ------> & gt; > & gt;

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Hello dear Rahul,

 

I have not had any problem with opening the blog. Perhaps it has to

do with your internet access, software or equipment.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , rahul vashisht

<rahulvashisht_astro wrote:

>

> Sorry my typing mistake ...i mean i was intersted in learning from

u and other learned memebers .

> & nbsp;

> I don't know why sometime it's difficult to open your blog , do u

know whats the problem ??

> & nbsp;

> Regards

> & nbsp;

> Rahul

>

> --- On Mon, 2/6/08, rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_astro wrote:

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> rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_astro

> Re: Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

> SAMVA

> Monday, 2 June, 2008, 5:42 PM

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Thor.

> & nbsp;

> I appreciate the time & nbsp;had devoted in & nbsp;replying my

querries & nbsp;nd clearing doubts...... but my qs was nt to hurt any

body feelings nd may be u missed my point ..... .

> & nbsp;

> a) I never said .... that dis group is for investment

purpose ......i was not intersted to learn something more from

learned members like you and prof..

> & nbsp;

> b) May be i used wrong word " Embellish " & nbsp; ,,,,, but i never

said ur blog is not beautiful .... infact photographs , graph etc had

made it very attractive ....i juz wanted to convery those viistors

who are more intersted in stock market astrology would learn

something from ur blog if u could add sector wise prediction in stock

market prediction column...

> & nbsp;

> c)I don't play in stock's .... so i not investor ... juz want to

clear my concepts from respecred memebers of this community.

> & nbsp;

> I hope i have'nt hurt nybodies feeling nd if i did i really

appologise for same.

> & nbsp;

> Regards

> & nbsp;

> Rahul

> & nbsp;

>

>

> --- On Mon, 2/6/08, cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote:

>

> cosmologer cosmologer & gt;

> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

> SAMVA

> Monday, 2 June, 2008, 4:52 PM

>

>

>

>

> Dear Rahul,

>

> I add replies in UPPER CASE below.

>

> Best,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , rahul vashisht

> & lt;rahulvashisht_ astro@ & gt; wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Prof nd Thor

> & gt;

> & gt; First of all i would like to thanks professor for creating

such a

> wonderful platform for discussing mundane issues.

>

> ACTUALLY, PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY CREATED THE SYSTEMS' APPROACH AND HAS

> INSPIRED AND SUPPORTED THE DISCUSSION LISTS. I FOUNDED SAMVA LIST

> WITH HIS BLESSING IN NOVEMBER 2000 AND HAVE MODERATED IT SINCE

(WITH

> THE EXCEPTION OF A LEAVE A FEW YEARS AGO).

>

> & gt; Adding to it.... I really appreciate the efforts that Mr, thor

had

> devoted to his blog and quite accurate in stock market

> prediction.. ....As i mentioned before also and again i would like

to

> add some points if he consider in his coming posts, which may helps

> to improve his accuracy.... .

>

> OK

>

> & gt; a) We expected Aprl wil show some weakness due to placement of

Mars

> (L10) in H12 in SAMVA USA chart and other few malefic

> combinations ......... but we missed strength of transit planets

> i.e ......Sun and Venus were exalted in Aries and Pisces

respectively.

>

> YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR

LONG

> PERIODS SOMETIMES THE SHORT RUN INFLUENCES ARE OMITTED. PROFESSOR

> CHOUDHRY HAS LONG SINCE AGO ADVISED THAT TO MAKE FINANCIAL MARKET

> PREDICTIONS REQUIRES CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF ALL FACTORS. THE

EFFORT

> HERE WAS SIMPLY TO SIGNAL THE MAJOR ASTROLOGICAL EVENTS, WHICH ARE

> ALSO EXPECTED TO HAVE A GREATER INFLUENCE.

>

> & gt; b) We expected some sort of optimism to return back in market

in

> May-June ..... despite of exact degre affliction of ascendant lord

> Moon & amp;nbsp by Transit L8 Saturn and in the hope that mars will

leave

> SAMVA 12th house....... but the fact Mars L10 is deblitated in

Cancer

> which makes situation even worse .........in June also L10

debliated

> Mars will conjuct other malefic Ketu which will make situation even

> worse.....and from early july L6 will exactly afflict natal L4 in

> H6.......... All this coming combination reflecting market to pass

some

> big roller coaster ride........ .definately direction wil be south

> only.

>

> PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY MADE THE PREDICTION FOR IMPROVEMENT AS TRANSIT

> MARS WENT FROM 12TH HOUSE TO 1ST HOUSE IN SAMVA USA CHART, EVEN IF

> DEBILITATED. HE WAS CORRECT - AS THE MARKET DEVELOPMENT IN FIRST

HALF

> OF MAY SUGGESTED.

>

> THE IMPACT OF TRANSIT SATURN ON NATAL MOON HAS PERHAPS BEEN

REFLECTED

> IN - AS EARLIER MENTIONED BY ME - IN THE IMPACT ON THE HIGH OIL

PRICE

> ON AMERICAN'S REASSESSMENT OF THEIR ENERGY INTENSIVE LIFESTYLE, AS

> ALSO REFLECTED IN COMMENTS MADE BY BOTH SEN. OBAMA AND JOHN MCCAIN

> AROUND THAT TIME.

>

> THE IMPACT OF THE CONJUNCTION OF TRANSIT KETU AND TRANSIT MARS HAS

> YET TO BE SEEN.

>

> & gt; I would also like to request respected Prof nd thor ..... if

apart

> from checking overall market trend .....if some kind of effort and

> you can enlighten us on sector wise prediction it would be

> great ........

>

> SAMVA IS NOT AN INVESTMENT SERVICE BUT A FORUM FOR LEARNING SA

> ASTROLOGY IN THE MUNDANE SPHERE. WE CAN REACT TO QUESTIONS, BUT NOT

> MUCH MORE. TIME IS LIMITING FACTOR. THAT SAID, LIST MEMBERS ARE

> INVITED TO MAKE THEIR OWN EFFORT IN SUCH ASSESSMENT.

>

> & gt; For instance :

>

> & gt; a) Recently we have seen some rallies in IT ......

>

> 3RD LORD MERCURY IS IMPORTANT IN THIS REGARD. ALSO 10TH LORD MARS.

>

> & gt; b) Some great amount of plunge in Banking and reality sector.

>

> SUN AND JUPITER ARE IMPORTANT FOR BANKING. 4TH LORD VENUS IS

> IMPORTANT FOR REAL ESTATE MARKET.

>

> & gt; c) Last year from Sep - Dec ..... we have seen some rallies in

> petro, power industry...

>

> SATURN FOR OIL AND MARS FOR INDUSTRY. POSSIBLY KETU FOR ELECTRICITY.

>

> & gt; It would be great and gud to learn this rallies based on

planetry

> combination . I hope our SAMVA group will be more popular in

Mundane

> discussion in years to come .Furthermore , it would be of great

help

> to embelish Mr thor Blog .

>

> WITH OVER 700 MEMBERS, SAMVA IS ALREADY QUITE POPULAR. THE TRICK IS

> TO ATTRACT MORE DISCUSSION. YOUR EFFORT IS GOOD AND WELCOME IN THIS

> REGARD.

>

> WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND TO " EMBELLISH " THE BLOG? LIST MEMBERS ARE

> WELCOME TO START THEIR OWN BLOGS AND INVEST TIME AND EFFORT IN

MAKING

> IT LOOK AS ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE. I HAVE TRIED TO MAKE IT

> INTERESTING BY ADDING RELEVANT PHOTOS, DESIGNING TRANSIT GRAPHS AND

> SHOWING NATAL AND TRANSIT CHARTS, SOMETIMES ANNOTATED, ETC. IS THAT

> SOMEHOW NOT ENOUGH?

>

> & gt; Warm Regards

>

> & gt; Rahul Vashisht

> & gt; --- On Tue, 27/5/08, rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_ astro@

wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt; rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_ astro@

> & gt; Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

> & gt; SAMVA

> & gt; Tuesday, 27 May, 2008, 10:05 PM

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Members ...

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; I would like to & amp;nbsp;add few tangible combinations rising

> & amp;nbsp;crude oil :-

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; a) Moon denotes liquid and natal moon in Samva US chart is

exactly

> afflicted by saturn 8th lord .

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; b) Cancer & amp;nbsp; which is again watery & amp;nbsp; and moon

sign where mars

> is deblitated and also is transiting & amp;nbsp; by another malefic

ketu.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; Acc to me crude oil price will & amp;nbsp;mitigate to some

extent as

> saturn affliction & amp;nbsp; to & amp;nbsp;natal moon & amp;nbsp;is & amp;

nbsp;seperating but

> still & amp;nbsp;transit mars and ketu conjunction is

waiting & amp;nbsp; a ahead

> so we might see total relief only from july onwards.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; Regards

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; --- On Mon, 26/5/08, Cosmologer cosmologer & amp;gt;

wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt; Cosmologer cosmologer & amp;gt;

> & gt; Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

> & gt; SAMVA

> & gt; Monday, 26 May, 2008, 9:35 PM

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Ajay,

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; We must be careful to note the situation

> comprehensively & amp; nbsp;before drawing conclusions. With regard

to

> the & amp;nbsp;Sun, & amp;nbsp;it & amp; nbsp;is 2nd lord and strong by

natal placement

> in the 7th house. & amp;nbsp; While transiting & amp;nbsp; Leo and 2nd

> house & amp;nbsp;it will also be & amp;nbsp;quite strong - due being in

own sign

> and also being in a Sun-Like-House. It would therefore be expected

to

> withstand & amp;nbsp; quite well the multiple transit afflictions.

> Moreover, & amp;nbsp; as it is & amp;nbsp;a fast moving body,

its & amp;nbsp;weakening

> is relevant & amp;nbsp; within 1° orb while caught up in these

massive

> afflictions in the 17°-18° Leo.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; To predict for the stock market at this time, it is also

needed to

> consider all the & amp;nbsp;other placements and afflictions in a

like

> manner. Feel free to do that. It will deepen your understanding of

> the chart, which would be a good investment by you, as you are

> interested in mundane predictions.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; Best wishes,

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; Thor

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; ajay sehg ajaysehg & amp;gt;

> & gt; SAMVA

> & gt; Monday, May 26, 2008 3:49:45 PM

> & gt; Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Thor,

> & gt;

> & gt; Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt. During sept saturn shall

be

> very close to mep of h2 also. So it shall be a very crucial month

as

> stocks could suffer strong setbacks.

> & gt;

> & gt; Thanks a lot for ur Great Works.

> & gt;

> & gt; Regards

> & gt; Ajay.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Cosmologer cosmologer & amp;gt; wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Ajay,

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in

terms

> of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the

> strength of & amp;nbsp;planets disposited by it. In particular,

transit 2nd

> lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt;

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;b) & amp;nbsp; along with Saturn come under the aspect

of natal Rahu

> in the 10th house and & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect

of transit

> 6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting

> aspect from natal Rahu

> & gt; At that time, & amp;nbsp;transit Rahu will also & amp;nbsp;be

conjunct (with

> slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will

> also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and

> where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the

1st

> house.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; Such all round affliction is likely to harm the indications of

the

> planets involved.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be

afflicted

> by natal Saturn in the 5th house.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; This time & amp;nbsp;will therefore be a very & amp;nbsp;interesti

ng with

> likely repercussions for the financial markets.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer. blogspot.

com

> at the end of last year, I suggested what may take place at that

time.

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; Best wishes,

> & gt; & amp;nbsp;

> & gt; Thor

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; ajay sehg ajaysehg & amp;gt;

> & gt; SAMVA

> & gt; Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM

> & gt; Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Thor,

> & gt;

> & gt; U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every

event

> connected to US stocks as well as US & amp;nbsp;housing markets.

> & gt;

> & gt; I wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september

9,

> 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be

> exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same

> time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in

> transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is

> stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall

> markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific days from 8

> sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall

> gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a

> benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.

> & gt;

> & gt; Regards

> & gt; Ajay.

> & gt;

> & gt; cosmologer cosmologer & amp;gt; wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear and list members,

> & gt;

> & gt; Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into

the

> & gt; SAMVA USA chart. It has never failed in explaining the events.

> & gt;

> & gt; Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest

efforts

> & gt; at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock

market

> & gt; to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point

> & gt; prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as

15%.

> This

> & gt; prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of

> transit

> & gt; Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of

> communal

> & gt; harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part

of

> the

> & gt; year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the

sub-

> & gt; prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007.. The Dow

Jones

> Index

> & gt; dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough

of

> & gt; 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to

> throw

> & gt; the global financial market into turmoil for the remainder of

the

> & gt; year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities

have

> & gt; reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into

the

> & gt; banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns

bank.

> On

> & gt; the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the

pre-

> & gt; crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as

the

> & gt; banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their

funding

> & gt; needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while

the

> banks

> & gt; continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of

lending

> & gt; each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of

billions

> of

> & gt; dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been

> resolved

> & gt; and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going

forward.

> If

> & gt; there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not

some

> & gt; failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due

to a

> & gt; misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences.

Indeed,

> an

> & gt; affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the

> housing

> & gt; sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof),

should

> be

> & gt; expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely

affecting

> the

> & gt; financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as

the

> & gt; dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of

financial

> & gt; stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of

the

> chart

> & gt; where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord

Saturn

> & gt; there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn

Jupiter

> was

> & gt; aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn.

Hence,

> & gt; this signaled obstructions to " easy gains " . As Saturn was also

> & gt; aspecting natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of

the

> & gt; country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the

> & gt; transits undermined the financial stability in the country,

linked

> to

> & gt; losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked

the

> & gt; prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did.

The

> focus

> & gt; was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell,

but

> not

> & gt; by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the

severity of

> & gt; the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that

the

> & gt; share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has

been

> & gt; the response of the authorities to inject funds into the

banking

> & gt; system and to inject money also to the households. This has

helped

> to

> & gt; stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise

could

> & gt; have resulted. In any event, we can learn from the chart while

> & gt; following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives

with

> the

> & gt; events!

> & gt;

> & gt; Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of

the

> & gt; SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused

> & gt; predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA

chart

> to

> & gt; mundane astrology.

> & gt;

> & gt; Best wishes,

> & gt;

> & gt; Thor

> & gt;

> & gt; SAMVA , " SIHA "

& amp;lt;vkchoudhry@ ... & amp;gt; wrote:

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Hello my dear Thor,

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Best wishes.

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; -

> & gt; & amp;gt; Cosmologer

> & gt; & amp;gt; SAMVA

> & gt; & amp;gt; Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM

> & gt; & amp;gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to

land on

> Mars

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Dear Vyas,

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Thanks.

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of

courage

> and

> & gt; enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted

in the

> & gt; chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The

8th

> & gt; lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned

> space

> & gt; flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such

efforts.

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Best wishes,

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Thor

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Vyas Munidas munidas@ & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; SAMVA

> & gt; & amp;gt; Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM

> & gt; & amp;gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to

land on

> Mars

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Dear Thor,

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Good coverage and call.

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Best regards,

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Vyas Munidas

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; -

> & gt; & amp;gt; " cosmologer " & amp;lt;cosmologer@ ... & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; SAMVA & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM

> & gt; & amp;gt; Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land

on Mars

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; The Phoenix has successfully landed and is

operational on Mars!

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Best wishes,

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; Thor

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; SAMVA , Cosmologer

& amp;lt;cosmologer@ & amp;gt;

> wrote:

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; In the SAMVA USA chart there are both

positive and

> negative

> & gt; aspects.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Positive:

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal

3rd lord

> Mercury in

> & gt; the

> & gt; & amp;gt; 7th house.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal

10th lord Mars.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord

Mercury in

> the 7th

> & gt; & amp;gt; house

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Negative:

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal

1st lord Moon -

> both

> & gt; & amp;gt; under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect

from natal 8th

> lord

> & gt; & amp;gt; Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect

of Rahu in

> the

> & gt; & amp;gt; 7th house.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; As this is a space mission, the influence of

8th lord

> Saturn

> & gt; could

> & gt; & amp;gt; only suggest the risks involved.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Best wishes,

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Thor

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Cosmologer & amp;lt;cosmologer@ & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; samva

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Phoneix spacecraft about to

land on Mars

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Hello dear list members,

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; An exciting event is taking place today,

with NASA

> waiting for

> & gt; the

> & gt; & amp;gt; automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is

about to

> & gt; land on

> & gt; & amp;gt; the planet Mars.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; It is possible to follow this event on net-

tv:

> & gt; & amp;gt; http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; That said, as the radio signals from Mars

take 10 minutes

> to

> & gt; travel

> & gt; & amp;gt; to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes.

Nasa

> & gt; engineers

> & gt; & amp;gt; will therefore not know if the mission was a success

for some

> & gt; & amp;gt; minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of

failure has been

> & gt; & amp;gt; estimated to be 55%!

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Astrology can also give us some insight if

the mission

> will

> & gt; succeed

> & gt; & amp;gt; or not, based on the chart of the launch. Phoenix

lifted off

> from

> & gt; & amp;gt; Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on

Aug. 4,

> 2007,

> & gt; & amp;gt; aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the

launch

> countdown

> & gt; & amp;gt; unfolded.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/

launch/blog.

> html

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-

Saturn period

> running..

> & gt; & amp;gt; Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well

placed in

> the

> & gt; 2nd

> & gt; & amp;gt; house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in

the 10th

> house

> & gt; of

> & gt; & amp;gt; the executive, albeit in old age and closely

aspecting the

> 10th

> & gt; and

> & gt; & amp;gt; 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the

2nd house,

> & gt; thereby

> & gt; & amp;gt; gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of

luck is well

> & gt; & amp;gt; placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise,

albeit in

> & gt; & amp;gt; infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains

additional

> strength

> & gt; & amp;gt; being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo.

Saturn is in

> & gt; mutual

> & gt; & amp;gt; aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals

which is badly

> & gt; & amp;gt; placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places.

Saturn is

> & gt; & amp;gt; just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as

5th lord

> & gt; & amp;gt; of management and creativity also in the 3rd house.

Venus also

> & gt; & amp;gt; receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite

strong in this

> & gt; & amp;gt; chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; is located in the 6th house of conflict and

good

> function.

> & gt; Ketu is

> & gt; & amp;gt; placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is

pairwise

> in

> & gt; the

> & gt; & amp;gt; 9th house. The nodes do not afflict in the chart. The

> significant

> & gt; & amp;gt; influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart

suggest

> success

> & gt; for

> & gt; & amp;gt; the mission.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; The transit are interesting. On the positive

side, 9th

> lord

> & gt; Saturn

> & gt; & amp;gt; is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely

aspects

> transit

> & gt; Venus

> & gt; & amp;gt; in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars

and

> transit

> & gt; 3rd

> & gt; & amp;gt; lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will

be a

> success.

> & gt; On

> & gt; & amp;gt; the negative side, there is a worrying element

involving the

> & gt; & amp;gt; placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is

under an

> aspect

> & gt; from

> & gt; & amp;gt; transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are

also

> & gt; afflicting

> & gt; & amp;gt; all the even numbered houses. That situation could

bring

> & gt; difficulty.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; That said, with the natal potential and

influence of 9th

> lord,

> & gt; it

> & gt; & amp;gt; is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of

some

> planets in

> & gt; & amp;gt; the 12th house and affliction by the nodes..

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; In any event, it will be interesting to see

what happens.

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Best wishes,

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Thor

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt; ------------ --------- --------- ------

> & gt; & amp;gt;

> & gt; & amp;gt;

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Dear Thor.

 

All this coming combinations and combinations already running which u have mentioned in your other post wil leads market to 10-15% from current levels by july end.

 

I had mention few days back in my post that market is ready for its roller coaster ride ,,,,, nd will definately in south direction....Still according to me worst is not over ....it will continue till june 20 or so but again another sudden plunge might be visible in early july to mid july.

 

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Rahul

 

 

 

 

 

 

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cosmologer <cosmologer Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chartSAMVA Date: Monday, 2 June, 2008, 4:52 PM

 

 

Dear Rahul,I add replies in UPPER CASE below.Best,ThorSAMVA , rahul vashisht <rahulvashisht_ astro > wrote:>> Dear Prof nd Thor > > First of all i would like to thanks professor for creating such a wonderful platform for discussing mundane issues.ACTUALLY, PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY CREATED THE SYSTEMS' APPROACH AND HAS INSPIRED AND SUPPORTED THE DISCUSSION LISTS. I FOUNDED SAMVA LIST WITH HIS BLESSING IN NOVEMBER 2000 AND HAVE MODERATED IT SINCE (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A LEAVE A FEW YEARS AGO). > Adding to it.... I really appreciate the efforts that Mr, thor had devoted to his blog and quite accurate in stock market prediction.. ....As i mentioned before also and again i would like to add some points if he consider in his coming posts, which may

helps to improve his accuracy.... .OK> a) We expected Aprl wil show some weakness due to placement of Mars (L10) in H12 in SAMVA USA chart and other few malefic combinations ......... but we missed strength of transit planets i.e ......Sun and Venus were exalted in Aries and Pisces respectively.YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR LONG PERIODS SOMETIMES THE SHORT RUN INFLUENCES ARE OMITTED. PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY HAS LONG SINCE AGO ADVISED THAT TO MAKE FINANCIAL MARKET PREDICTIONS REQUIRES CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF ALL FACTORS. THE EFFORT HERE WAS SIMPLY TO SIGNAL THE MAJOR ASTROLOGICAL EVENTS, WHICH ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO HAVE A GREATER INFLUENCE.> b) We expected some sort of optimism to return back in market in May-June ..... despite of exact degre affliction of ascendant lord Moon & nbsp by Transit L8 Saturn and in the hope that mars will leave

SAMVA 12th house....... but the fact Mars L10 is deblitated in Cancer which makes situation even worse .........in June also L10 debliated Mars will conjuct other malefic Ketu which will make situation even worse.....and from early july L6 will exactly afflict natal L4 in H6..........All this coming combination reflecting market to pass some big roller coaster ride........ .definately direction wil be south only.PROFESSOR CHOUDHRY MADE THE PREDICTION FOR IMPROVEMENT AS TRANSIT MARS WENT FROM 12TH HOUSE TO 1ST HOUSE IN SAMVA USA CHART, EVEN IF DEBILITATED. HE WAS CORRECT - AS THE MARKET DEVELOPMENT IN FIRST HALF OF MAY SUGGESTED.THE IMPACT OF TRANSIT SATURN ON NATAL MOON HAS PERHAPS BEEN REFLECTED IN - AS EARLIER MENTIONED BY ME - IN THE IMPACT ON THE HIGH OIL PRICE ON AMERICAN'S REASSESSMENT OF THEIR ENERGY INTENSIVE LIFESTYLE, AS ALSO REFLECTED IN COMMENTS MADE BY BOTH SEN. OBAMA AND

JOHN MCCAIN AROUND THAT TIME.THE IMPACT OF THE CONJUNCTION OF TRANSIT KETU AND TRANSIT MARS HAS YET TO BE SEEN.> I would also like to request respected Prof nd thor ..... if apart from checking overall market trend .....if some kind of effort and you can enlighten us on sector wise prediction it would be great ........SAMVA IS NOT AN INVESTMENT SERVICE BUT A FORUM FOR LEARNING SA ASTROLOGY IN THE MUNDANE SPHERE. WE CAN REACT TO QUESTIONS, BUT NOT MUCH MORE. TIME IS LIMITING FACTOR. THAT SAID, LIST MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO MAKE THEIR OWN EFFORT IN SUCH ASSESSMENT. > For instance :> a) Recently we have seen some rallies in IT ......3RD LORD MERCURY IS IMPORTANT IN THIS REGARD. ALSO 10TH LORD MARS.> b) Some great amount of plunge in Banking and reality sector.SUN AND JUPITER ARE IMPORTANT FOR BANKING. 4TH LORD VENUS IS IMPORTANT FOR REAL ESTATE

MARKET.> c) Last year from Sep - Dec ..... we have seen some rallies in petro, power industry...SATURN FOR OIL AND MARS FOR INDUSTRY. POSSIBLY KETU FOR ELECTRICITY.> It would be great and gud to learn this rallies based on planetry combination . I hope our SAMVA group will be more popular in Mundane discussion in years to come .Furthermore , it would be of great help to embelish Mr thor Blog .WITH OVER 700 MEMBERS, SAMVA IS ALREADY QUITE POPULAR. THE TRICK IS TO ATTRACT MORE DISCUSSION. YOUR EFFORT IS GOOD AND WELCOME IN THIS REGARD.WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND TO "EMBELLISH" THE BLOG? LIST MEMBERS ARE WELCOME TO START THEIR OWN BLOGS AND INVEST TIME AND EFFORT IN MAKING IT LOOK AS ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE. I HAVE TRIED TO MAKE IT INTERESTING BY ADDING RELEVANT PHOTOS, DESIGNING TRANSIT GRAPHS AND SHOWING NATAL AND TRANSIT CHARTS, SOMETIMES ANNOTATED, ETC. IS THAT

SOMEHOW NOT ENOUGH? > Warm Regards> Rahul Vashisht> --- On Tue, 27/5/08, rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_ astro wrote:> > rahul vashisht rahulvashisht_ astro Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> SAMVA > Tuesday, 27 May, 2008, 10:05 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members ...> & nbsp;> I would like to & nbsp;add few tangible combinations rising & nbsp;crude oil :-> & nbsp;> a) Moon denotes liquid and natal moon in Samva US chart is exactly afflicted by saturn 8th lord .> & nbsp;> b) Cancer & nbsp; which is again watery & nbsp; and moon sign where mars is deblitated and also is transiting & nbsp; by

another malefic ketu.> & nbsp;> Acc to me crude oil price will & nbsp;mitigate to some extent as saturn affliction & nbsp; to & nbsp;natal moon & nbsp;is & nbsp;seperating but still & nbsp;transit mars and ketu conjunction is waiting & nbsp; a ahead so we might see total relief only from july onwards.> & nbsp;> Regards> & nbsp;> > > --- On Mon, 26/5/08, Cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote:> > Cosmologer cosmologer & gt;> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> SAMVA > Monday, 26 May, 2008, 9:35 PM> > > > > > > Dear Ajay,> & nbsp;> We must be careful to note the situation comprehensively & nbsp;before drawing conclusions. With regard to the & nbsp;Sun, & nbsp;it & nbsp;is

2nd lord and strong by natal placement in the 7th house. & nbsp; While transiting & nbsp; Leo and 2nd house & nbsp;it will also be & nbsp;quite strong - due being in own sign and also being in a Sun-Like-House. It would therefore be expected to withstand & nbsp; quite well the multiple transit afflictions. Moreover, & nbsp; as it is & nbsp;a fast moving body, its & nbsp;weakening is relevant & nbsp; within 1° orb while caught up in these massive afflictions in the 17°-18° Leo. > & nbsp;> To predict for the stock market at this time, it is also needed to consider all the & nbsp;other placements and afflictions in a like manner. Feel free to do that. It will deepen your understanding of the chart, which would be a good investment by you, as you are interested in mundane predictions.> & nbsp;> Best wishes,> & nbsp;> Thor>

> > > ajay sehg ajaysehg & gt;> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 3:49:45 PM> Re: Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> > Dear Thor,> > Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt. During sept saturn shall be very close to mep of h2 also. So it shall be a very crucial month as stocks could suffer strong setbacks.> > Thanks a lot for ur Great Works.> > Regards> Ajay.> > > Cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote: > > > > > Dear Ajay,> & nbsp;> Indeed, the autumn months look like a very exciting time in terms of the SAMVA USA chart. The transits then will be very difficult. > & nbsp;> Afflictions to the Sun surely undermine its strength and the strength

of & nbsp;planets disposited by it. In particular, transit 2nd lord Sun at 17°-18° Leo in 2nd house in early September will > & nbsp;> > & nbsp;a) become conjunct transit 8th lord Saturn, and> & nbsp;b) & nbsp; along with Saturn come under the aspect of natal Rahu in the 10th house and & nbsp;> & nbsp;c) along with transit Saturn come under the aspect of transit 6th lord Jupiter in the 6th house, which is also under afflicting aspect from natal Rahu> At that time, & nbsp;transit Rahu will also & nbsp;be conjunct (with slight orb) the natal Sun in the 7th house, where transit Rahu will also be receiving the aspect of natal Saturn in the 5th house and where natal Saturn is receiving the aspect of transit Ketu in the 1st house. > & nbsp;> Such all round affliction is likely to harm the indications of the planets involved.>

& nbsp;> In the days indicated by you, transit Sun will further be afflicted by natal Saturn in the 5th house. > & nbsp;> This time & nbsp;will therefore be a very & nbsp;interesti ng with likely repercussions for the financial markets.> & nbsp;> When I wrote predictions for 2008 on www.cosmologer. blogspot. com at the end of last year, I suggested what may take place at that time.> & nbsp;> Best wishes,> & nbsp;> Thor> > > > ajay sehg ajaysehg & gt;> SAMVA > Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53:50 PM> Predictions based on SAMVA USA chart> > Dear Thor,> > U are right that samva US chart is explaining each and every event connected to US stocks as well as US & nbsp;housing markets.> > I

wanted to draw ur attention to a specific date : september 9, 2008, on this day the aspect of tr jupiter to tr saturn shall be exact but disp of sat is transiting thru its own house and at same time tr nodal axis shall be exactly afflicting natal sun, but in transist the sun shall be stronger till 11 sept, so now as sun is stronger in transist, but natal sun is under affliction, so shall markets suffer a strong meltdown during these specific days from 8 sept to 11 sept. sun is transiting thru its own 2h where it shall gain additional strength during Transist and could it protect a benefic planet facing affliction transiting its own house.> > Regards> Ajay.> > cosmologer cosmologer & gt; wrote: > > > Dear and list members,> > Indeed, slowly but surely, we are gaining further insight into the > SAMVA USA chart.

It has never failed in explaining the events. > > Let me share one insight in this regard. One of my earliest efforts > at predicting based on the SAMVA USA chart was for the stock market > to correct in early 2007. While it is hard to make a point > prediction, I ventured the correction could be as great as 15%. This > prediction was based on e.g. the long standing affliction of transit > Ketu at 24° Leo and 2nd house to natal Venus as 4th lord of communal > harmony and fixed assets, including housing, in the first part of the > year. What we did see, was a correction in share prices as the sub-> prime loan crisis erupted in late February 2007.. The Dow Jones Index > dropped 6% from the peak of 12783 on February 21 to the trough of > 12051 on March 6th. What is more, this problem then went on to throw > the global financial market into

turmoil for the remainder of the > year. The crisis has not gone away, even if the authorities have > reduced interest rates aggressively and injected funds into the > banking system and restored confidence by saving Bear Sterns bank. On > the upside the Dow is not at 12621, which is only 1% under the pre-> crisis value. However, interbank lending is still minimal as the > banks hoard liquidity due to their uncertainty about their funding > needs going forward and the counterparty risk. Hence, while the banks > continue to lend to firms and households, they are wary of lending > each other. So, the situation concerning the hundereds of billions of > dollars that have been lost due to this crisis have not been resolved > and will likely continue to hamper economic growth going forward. If > there was a problem with the prediction, it was therefore not

some > failure in the chart itself. Far from it. Any problem is due to a > misreading of the exact nature of the transit influences. Indeed, an > affliction to such a weak and badly placed planet ruling the housing > sector and linked to financial stability (or lack thereof), should be > expected to result in some setbacks or losses adversely affecting the > financial market. This is precisely what happened. More so, as the > dispositor of Venus is the 6th lord Jupiter, ruler of financial > stability and at that time, Jupiter was in the 5th house of the chart > where it was also being transit afflicted by natal 8th lord Saturn > there, creating problems for financial stability. In turn Jupiter was > aspecting transit Saturn in the 1st house and natal Saturn. Hence, > this signaled obstructions to "easy gains". As Saturn was also > aspecting

natal 2nd lord Sun in the 7th house, the wealth of the > country also came under strain. The problem was thus that the > transits undermined the financial stability in the country, linked to > losses in the housing market. In retrospect I would have liked the > prediction to focus more on the housing market than it did. The focus > was more on the share prices. In this case, the market fell, but not > by as much as I suggested could happen. That said, the severity of > the crisis has now been well documented and we are lucky that the > share prices did not fall by more. What has been critical has been > the response of the authorities to inject funds into the banking > system and to inject money also to the households. This has helped to > stem the erosion of confidence in the markets, that otherwise could > have resulted. In any event, we can learn from

the chart while > following the events. What a magnificent fit the chart gives with the > events!> > Over time, the increased knowledge of the basic properties of the > SAMVA USA chart is enabling us to make more and better focused > predictions. That is the real contribution of the SAMVA USA chart to > mundane astrology. > > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , "SIHA" & lt;vkchoudhry@ ... & gt; wrote:> & gt;> & gt; > & gt; Hello my dear Thor,> & gt; > & gt; Yes, it is noteworthy and interesting.> & gt; > & gt; Best wishes.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; - > & gt; Cosmologer > & gt; SAMVA > & gt;

Monday, May 26, 2008 1:18 PM> & gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Dear Vyas,> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Thanks.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; The interesting thing is to see MARS, the planet of courage and > enterprise, as 10th lord in the SAMVA USA chart, highlighted in the > chart when major achievements of this nature are realised. The 8th > lord SATURN is often highlighted as well, especially in manned space > flights, as it signifies the 'death defying' nature of such efforts.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Best wishes,> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Thor> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt;

> & gt; > & gt; Vyas Munidas munidas@ & gt;> & gt; SAMVA > & gt; Monday, May 26, 2008 3:22:54 AM> & gt; Re: Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; > & gt; Dear Thor,> & gt; > & gt; Good coverage and call.> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Best regards,> & gt; > & gt; Vyas Munidas> & gt; > & gt; - > & gt; "cosmologer" & lt;cosmologer@ ... & gt;> & gt; SAMVA & gt;> & gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:56 PM> & gt; Re: Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; The Phoenix has successfully landed and is operational on Mars!> & gt; >

& gt; Best wishes,> & gt; > & gt; Thor> & gt; > & gt; SAMVA , Cosmologer & lt;cosmologer@ & gt; wrote:> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; In the SAMVA USA chart there are both positive and negative > aspects.> & gt; & gt; Positive:> & gt; & gt; - transit 10th lord Mars is opposite natal 3rd lord Mercury in > the> & gt; 7th house.> & gt; & gt; - transit 2nd lord Sun is opposite natal 10th lord Mars.> & gt; & gt; - transit 1st lord Moon is conjunct 3rd lord Mercury in the 7th> & gt; house> & gt; & gt; Negative:> & gt; & gt; - transit 4th lord Venus is conjunct natal 1st lord Moon -both> & gt; under the aspect of transit 8th lord Saturn.> & gt; & gt; - transit 3rd lord Mercury is under aspect from natal 8th

lord> & gt; Saturn in 5th house and under the afflicting aspect of Rahu in the> & gt; 7th house.> & gt; & gt; As this is a space mission, the influence of 8th lord Saturn > could> & gt; only suggest the risks involved.> & gt; & gt; Best wishes,> & gt; & gt; Thor> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Cosmologer & lt;cosmologer@ & gt;> & gt; & gt; samva > & gt; & gt; Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:08:43 PM> & gt; & gt; Phoneix spacecraft about to land on Mars> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Hello dear list members,> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; An exciting event is taking place today, with NASA waiting for >

the> & gt; automated landing of the space craft Phoenix that is about to > land on> & gt; the planet Mars.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; It is possible to follow this event on net-tv:> & gt; http://www.nasa. gov/multimedia/ nasatv/> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; That said, as the radio signals from Mars take 10 minutes to > travel> & gt; to earth, the high-risk descent will take 7 minutes. Nasa > engineers> & gt; will therefore not know if the mission was a success for some> & gt; minutes. Based on past missions, the chance of failure has been> & gt; estimated to be 55%!> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Astrology can also give us some insight if the mission will > succeed> & gt; or not, based on the chart of the launch.

Phoenix lifted off from> & gt; Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:26 a.m. EDT on Aug. 4, 2007,> & gt; aboard a Delta II-Heavy rocket. This is how the launch countdown> & gt; unfolded.> & gt; & gt; http://www.nasa. gov/mission_ pages/phoenix/ launch/blog. html> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; The 30° Gemini is rising, with Mercury-Saturn period running..> & gt; Natally, the Sun as 3rd lord of initiative is well placed in the > 2nd> & gt; house of status, with 2nd lord Moon well placed in the 10th house > of> & gt; the executive, albeit in old age and closely aspecting the 10th > and> & gt; 4th houses. 4th lord Mercury is also placed in the 2nd house, > thereby> & gt; gaining additional strength. Saturn as 9th lord of luck

is well> & gt; placed in the 3rd house of initiative and enterprise, albeit in> & gt; infancy and debilitated in Navamsa. It gains additional strength> & gt; being placed in the 3rd house and the sign Leo. Saturn is in > mutual> & gt; aspect with Mars as 11th lord of hopes and goals which is badly> & gt; placed in the 12th house of loss or remote places. Saturn is> & gt; just outside the conjunction with a strong Venus, as 5th lord> & gt; of management and creativity also in the 3rd house. Venus also> & gt; receives the aspect of Mars. Venus is thus quite strong in this> & gt; chart. Jupiter as 7th lord of foreign policy> & gt; & gt; is located in the 6th house of conflict and good function. > Ketu is> & gt; placed in the 3rd house away from the MEP and Rahu is pairwise in > the> & gt; 9th house. The

nodes do not afflict in the chart. The significant> & gt; influence of the 2nd and 3rd houses in this chart suggest success > for> & gt; the mission.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; The transit are interesting. On the positive side, 9th lord > Saturn> & gt; is now closely conjunct natal Venus and closely aspects transit > Venus> & gt; in the 12th house, which is also conjunct natal Mars and transit > 3rd> & gt; lord Sun. These placements suggest the mission will be a success. > On> & gt; the negative side, there is a worrying element involving the> & gt; placement of Mercury at 27° Taurus where it is under an aspect > from> & gt; transit Rahu in 8th house. More so, as the nodes are also > afflicting> & gt; all the even numbered houses. That situation could bring

> difficulty.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; That said, with the natal potential and influence of 9th lord, > it> & gt; is predicted it will overcome adverse placement of some planets in> & gt; the 12th house and affliction by the nodes..> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens.> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Best wishes,> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt; Thor> & gt; & gt;> & gt; & gt;> & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; ------------ --------- --------- ------> & gt; > & gt;

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