Res: Res: Res: Jetliner Crash

June 1, 2008

Hi Thor,Many thanks for your friendly answer.I am total awear that SAMVA it is a SA list.Trying not to be disrespectful, I didn't mention any Tropical Astrology insight in my msg.Everything I said also applies to SA as follows, or please correct me if I am wrong ( I am using Lahiri degrees ):The SA MC of the Brazilian TAM JJ3054 crash was 14 Libra;The SA MC of Honduras TACA crash was 14 Aries.Also, the SA Mars of the TACA crash 17 Cancer it is in oppositionto the SA Asc of the TACA crash at 17 Capricorn.And the SA Sun of the TACA crash at 15 Taurus it is in exactsquare to The Lunar SA Lunar Nodes of the Brazilian crash 15 Aquarius/Leo.I guess it is an astonishing

"co-incidence" since TACA was the first ownerof the TAM airplane, as I posted, and that there was a Brazilian ambassadorat the TACA's crash.I am observing and making comparisons between SA and TA Astrology,as Heliocentric positions also and I founding out answers for many "blackholes" in TA approach.I hope to learn a lot with the SAMVA list and be sure that I only will use SA here.Best regards,Antonio Harresfrom Brazil----- Mensagem original ----De: Cosmologer <cosmologerPara: SAMVA Enviadas: SÃ¡bado, 31 de Maio de 2008 14:28:38Assunto: Re: Res: Res: Re: Jetliner Crash Hello Antonio, Welcome to SAMVA and thanks for the information. As you are a newcomer here, I would like to mention that SAMVA is dedicated to teaching the application of SA in the mundane sphere. sometimes finds time to contribute to the discussion and clarify issues for the list members. To avoid confusion, we ask all list members to restrict the discussion to SA analysis to avoid confusion and make the

discussion more effective. The upside is that you may find it a useful exercise to structure such comparisons of events in terms of SA. If you have any questions about how to go about that, feel free to ask. We also have several resources to share in this regard. Best, Thor Antonio Harres <kauborealis@ . br>SAMVA Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:07:53

PMRes: Res: Re: Jetliner Crash Regarding the Honduras jet crash there is some strange coincidences with the worst Brazilian air crash.In July 17th 2007, 06:51 PM in Sao Paulo an Airbus A320 flight TAM JJ 3054 overshot the runway killing199 people.The planes are from the same model and also the colors of the both air carriers are white and red, and TACAwas the first owner of the TAM's airplane. http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ TAM_Linhas_ A%C3%A9reas_ Flight_3054The aircraft was an Airbus A320-233 registered as PR-MBK and manufacturer' s serial number of 789. It was powered by two International Aero V2527E-A5 engines. According to Flight International, the aircraft was built in February 1998 and first entered service in March flying for Grupo TACA and later in November 2003 by Pacific Airlines. The aircraft was owned by Pegasus Aviation, prior to the The MC of the Honduras crash was in exact opp to the MC of the Brazilian crash.Mars of the Honduras crash was at exact opp to the Brazilian crash.The Sun at the Honduras crash was in exact square to the Moon Nodes of the Brazilian crash.In the Honduras crash the wife of the Brazilian ambassador was killed. Maybe the causes of the accident could also be similar.Antonio Harresfrom Brazil ----- Mensagem original ----De: Antonio Harres <kauborealis@ . br>Para: SAMVA Enviadas: SÃ¡bado, 31 de Maio de 2008 9:07:52Assunto: Res: Re: Jetliner Crash Hi,The crash happened 09:40 AM Tegucicalpa http://www.heraldoh n.com/ez/ index.php/ ediciones/ 2008/05/31/ el_vuelo_ de_la_muerteFrom "The Heraldo" newspaper, in Spanish. EL FATÃDICO ACCIDENTE AÃ‰REO De acuerdo a la informaciÃ³n que manejan los cuerpos de socorro, eran las 9:40 de la maÃ±ana cuando el Airbus tocÃ³ la pista de ToncontÃn en un aterrizaje que, segÃºn las autoridades de AeronÃ¡utica Civil, se realizÃ³ de forma â€œnormal y sobradoâ€. El vuelo venÃa con procedencia de San Salvador con destino a la capital. Por problemas que estÃ¡n en proceso de investigaciÃ³n de parte de un equipo de expertos, el piloto perdiÃ³ el control de la aeronave sin poder detenerla, traspasÃ³ el cerco de alambre malla ciclÃ³n que rodea los predios de la pista del aeropuerto y cayÃ³ en la hondonada de por lo menos 60 metros

de profundidad. Best regards,Antonio Harres from Brazil ----- Mensagem original ----De: Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >Para: SAMVA Enviadas: SÃ¡bado, 31 de Maio de 2008 8:52:43Assunto: Re: Re: Jetliner Crash Hello Ajay, I was simply referring to the time the plane took off from San Salvador. Although I do not have times for either El Salvador or Honduras, it would be interesting to see how the charts would compare. Warm regards,Shayn ajay sehg <ajaysehg >SAMVA Friday, May 30, 2008 10:33:50 PMRe: Re: Jetliner Crash Dear Shayn,Thanks for educating us all, Pls let me know which country natal chart u are refering to.Best RegardsAjay.Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > wrote: I forgot to mention the influence of the nodes on the houses...SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ ...> wrote:>> Hello List Members,> A jetliner leaving El Salvador this morning

overshot a runway in the capital of Honduras killing three people today.> It left San Salvador, El Salvador at 8:30am, Longitude: 89W12 Latitude: 13N42> Combust, old-aged and slow-moving Mercury is the subperiod lord and is located in H12 and exactly influenced by Rahu from H8. By the grace of benefic Jupiter aspecting the MEPs especially of H1 more lives were not lost.> http://edition. cnn.com/2008/ WORLD/americas/ 05/30/honduras. crash.ap/ index.html?iref= topnews> > Warm regards,> Shayn>The Power of SA astrology is supreme. Its the most accurate and scientific branch of Vedic astrology. Abra sua conta no Mail, o Ãºnico sem limite de espaÃ§o para armazenamento! Abra sua conta no Mail, o Ãºnico sem limite de espaÃ§o para armazenamento!

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June 1, 2008

Hi Antonio,

You are welcome. No problem if you are not familiar with SA. A good way to start learning it is to go to the web site of (www.yournetastrologer.com). There you can learn about for instance, about

PLANETARY ASPECT

The aspects are partial and full. In the Vedic system of Astrology, we are concerned with only full aspects. Each planet is believed to aspect fully the seventh house, reckoned from the placement of the former.

In addition to this i.e. the seventh aspect, planets posited outside the orbit of the earth as well as Rahu and Ketu have additional special full aspects as under:

a) Saturn aspects third and tenth houses from its location.b) Mars aspects fourth and eight houses from its location.c) Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu aspect fifth and ninth houses from their location.

Planets influence other houses/planets aspected by them favorably or unfavorably, depending upon their functional nature in the horoscope. The principle of exact or close aspect is identical to exact or close conjunction i.e. when a planet casts its aspect on another planet(s) or on the most effective point of house(s) within an orb of one degree, the aspect is known as an exact aspect. If the difference in planetary longitudes is within five degrees, then the aspect is known as a close aspect. The conjunctions or aspects with more than five degrees of longitudinal difference are wide conjunctions or aspects. These do not have permanent impact in life except the short lived transit influences on the planets involved in wide conjunctions or aspects. The wide aspects give their results in later part of life, say around 60 years or after.The aspect of the planet will be effective corresponding to the strength of the planet. If the

aspecting planet is weak due to any reason including debilitation its effectiveness will be weak and limited.The close aspect of a functional malefic will act as a damaging force and the close aspect of a functional benefic will act as a helping force.

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/basic/b01.htm

I might mention that SA uses the equal house system and only the ascending degree is used - for all the houses. Any planet within a 5° orb of this degree in any house, is in the most effective point (MEP) of the house. There the planet impacts the indications of the house as per its functional and general nature.

In the files section of the SAMVA web page you can also find an overview of mundane indications:

MUNDANE ASTROLOGY.doc

At http://www.jyotishtools.com/ you can get the free Junior Jyotish software to cast Vedic charts or the more sophisticated and accurate Jyotish Tools. Brian Conrad, a SAMVA list member, has incorporated useful SA features in the programs.

I hope this is sufficient to get you started.

Best,

Thor

Antonio Harres <kauborealisSAMVA Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 12:13:32 AMRes: Res: Res: Re: Jetliner Crash

Hi Thor,Many thanks for your friendly answer.I am total awear that SAMVA it is a SA list.Trying not to be disrespectful, I didn't mention any Tropical Astrology insight in my msg.Everything I said also applies to SA as follows, or please correct me if I am wrong ( I am using Lahiri degrees ):The SA MC of the Brazilian TAM JJ3054 crash was 14 Libra;The SA MC of Honduras TACA crash was 14 Aries.Also, the SA Mars of the TACA crash 17 Cancer it is in oppositionto the SA Asc of the TACA crash at 17 Capricorn.And the SA Sun of the TACA crash at 15 Taurus it is in exactsquare to The Lunar SA Lunar Nodes of the Brazilian crash 15 Aquarius/Leo.I guess it is an astonishing "co-incidence" since TACA was the first ownerof the TAM airplane, as I posted, and that there was a Brazilian ambassadorat the TACA's

crash.I am observing and making comparisons between SA and TA Astrology,as Heliocentric positions also and I founding out answers for many "blackholes" in TA approach.I hope to learn a lot with the SAMVA list and be sure that I only will use SA here.Best regards,Antonio Harresfrom Brazil

----- Mensagem original ----De: Cosmologer <cosmologerPara: SAMVA Enviadas: Sábado, 31 de Maio de 2008 14:28:38Assunto: Re: Res: Res: Re: Jetliner Crash

Hello Antonio,

Welcome to SAMVA and thanks for the information. As you are a newcomer here, I would like to mention that SAMVA is dedicated to teaching the application of SA in the mundane sphere. sometimes finds time to contribute to the discussion and clarify issues for the list members. To avoid confusion, we ask all list members to restrict the discussion to SA analysis to avoid confusion and make the discussion more effective. The upside is that you may find it a useful exercise to structure such comparisons of events in terms of SA. If you have any questions about how to go about that, feel free to ask. We also have several resources to share in this regard.

Best,

Thor

Antonio Harres <kauborealis@ . br>SAMVA Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:07:53 PMRes: Res: Re: Jetliner Crash

Regarding the Honduras jet crash there is some strange coincidences with the worst Brazilian air crash.In July 17th 2007, 06:51 PM in Sao Paulo an Airbus A320 flight TAM JJ 3054 overshot the runway killing199 people.The planes are from the same model and also the colors of the both air carriers are white and red, and TACAwas the first owner of the TAM's airplane. http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ TAM_Linhas_ A%C3%A9reas_ Flight_3054The aircraft was an Airbus A320-233 registered as PR-MBK and manufacturer' s serial number of 789. It was powered by two International Aero V2527E-A5 engines.

According to Flight International, the aircraft was built in February 1998 and first entered service in March flying for Grupo TACA and later in November 2003 by Pacific Airlines. The aircraft was owned by Pegasus Aviation, prior to the The MC of the Honduras crash was in exact opp to the MC of the Brazilian crash.Mars of the Honduras crash was at

exact opp to the Brazilian crash.The Sun at the Honduras crash was in exact square to the Moon Nodes of the Brazilian crash.In the Honduras crash the wife of the Brazilian ambassador was killed. Maybe the causes of the accident could also be similar.Antonio Harresfrom Brazil

----- Mensagem original ----De: Antonio Harres <kauborealis@ . br>Para: SAMVA Enviadas: Sábado, 31 de Maio de 2008 9:07:52Assunto: Res: Re: Jetliner Crash

Hi,The crash happened 09:40 AM Tegucicalpa http://www.heraldoh n.com/ez/ index.php/ ediciones/ 2008/05/31/ el_vuelo_ de_la_muerteFrom "The Heraldo" newspaper, in Spanish.

EL FATÍDICO ACCIDENTE AÉREO

De acuerdo a la información que manejan los cuerpos de socorro, eran las 9:40 de la mañana cuando el Airbus tocó la pista de Toncontín en un aterrizaje que, según las autoridades de Aeronáutica Civil, se realizó de forma “normal y sobrado”. El vuelo venía con procedencia de San Salvador con destino a la capital. Por problemas que están en proceso de investigación de parte de un equipo de expertos, el piloto perdió el control de la aeronave sin poder detenerla, traspasó el cerco de alambre malla ciclón que rodea los predios de la pista del aeropuerto y cayó en la hondonada de por lo menos 60 metros de profundidad. Best regards,Antonio Harres from Brazil

----- Mensagem original ----De: Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >Para: SAMVA Enviadas: Sábado, 31 de Maio de 2008 8:52:43Assunto: Re: Re: Jetliner Crash

Hello Ajay,

I was simply referring to the time the plane took off from San Salvador. Although I do not have times for either El Salvador or Honduras, it would be interesting to see how the charts would compare.

Warm regards,Shayn

ajay sehg <ajaysehg >SAMVA Friday, May 30, 2008 10:33:50 PMRe: Re: Jetliner Crash

Dear Shayn,Thanks for educating us all, Pls let me know which country natal chart u are refering to.Best RegardsAjay.Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > wrote:

I forgot to mention the influence of the nodes on the houses...SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ ...> wrote:>> Hello List Members,> A jetliner leaving El Salvador this morning overshot a runway in the capital of Honduras killing three people today.> It left San Salvador, El Salvador at 8:30am, Longitude: 89W12 Latitude: 13N42> Combust, old-aged and slow-moving Mercury is the subperiod lord and is located in H12 and exactly influenced by Rahu from H8. By the grace of benefic Jupiter aspecting the MEPs especially of H1 more lives were not lost.> http://edition. cnn.com/2008/ WORLD/americas/ 05/30/honduras. crash.ap/

index.html?iref= topnews> > Warm regards,> Shayn>The Power of SA astrology is supreme. Its the most accurate and scientific branch of Vedic astrology.

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