Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 A recent birth time was given for J. McCain as 11am ie approx. 24 Libra. I think that the birth time should be closer to 10am giving an ascendant between 9-10 Libra. It seems more probable that Rahu should be afflicting the 3H MEP and the houses it aspects. Similarly for Ketu. Rahu in 3H can give courage but near the cusp can affect the vitality. In the Ra/Ve period McCain was severely injured and suffered imprisonment. This was a low period in his life. Rahu’s dispositor Jupiter aspects the 8H of death like experiences and 6H of injuries. Rahu’s affliction of the 7H is also significant as well as Ketu’s affliction to the ascendant. It would be useful to have more data about McCain’s father and younger brother and his relationship with them. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Hi,I agree Thor..Hi Ron,Although with the 21 degree rising, when his plane was downed, Rahu was afflicting the third lord Jupiter at that time- Oct 26, 1967, within three degrees and the MMP Mercury was afflicting the first at three degrees. In the chart you propose the afflictions are severe by the nodes but also afflict the houses inordinately. Aloha, SallyJohn McCain's capture and imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his twenty-third bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[33][34] McCain fractured both arms and a leg, and then nearly drowned, when he parachuted into Trúc B?ch Lake in Hanoi.[33] After he regained consciousness, a crowd attacked him, crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, and bayoneted him;[33] he was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the " Hanoi Hilton " .[34] On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hi Ron, This is a very interesting suggesting. As a rather preliminary reaction, it would seem this chart would explain well the tremendous pain he has experienced in his life. At the same time, it has to be judged if such a close affliction by powerful functional malefics to 8 houses in his chart is consistent with the meteoric rise he has enjoyed in life. Only a close examination of life events would answer that question. Perhaps Wikipedia offers more information on his life. On the face of it, it would also seem that such an ascending degree would reduce his chances of gaining the Presidency. That said, I would have to study this chart closer to reach a conclusion on this suggestion and I won´t have time to do that until later. Perhaps others interested in the election can make their insights and views known. Best wishes, Thor RonDay <ronkarsamva Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:22:14 AM J. McCain –Towards RectificationA recent birth time was given for J. McCain as 11am ie approx. 24 Libra.I think that the birth time should be closer to 10am giving an ascendant between 9-10 Libra.It seems more probable that Rahu should be afflicting the 3H MEP and the houses it aspects. Similarly for Ketu.Rahu in 3H can give courage but near the cusp can affect the vitality. In the Ra/Ve period McCain was severely injured and suffered imprisonment. This was a low period in his life.Rahu's dispositor Jupiter aspects the 8H of death like experiences and 6H of injuries.Rahu's affliction of the 7H is also significant as well as Ketu's affliction to the ascendant.It would be useful to have more data about McCain's father and younger brother and his relationship with them.Ron--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Dear Ron See " Faith of My Fathers " . It is a 1999 book by United States Senator John McCain with Mark Salter. Published by Random House, it is part autobiography, part family memoir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_of_My_Fathers SAMVA , RonDay <ronkar wrote: > > A recent birth time was given for J. McCain as 11am ie approx. 24 Libra. > I think that the birth time should be closer to 10am giving an ascendant > between 9-10 Libra. > > It seems more probable that Rahu should be afflicting the 3H MEP and the > houses it aspects. Similarly for Ketu. > > Rahu in 3H can give courage but near the cusp can affect the vitality. > In the Ra/Ve period McCain was severely injured and suffered > imprisonment. This was a low period in his life. > Rahu's dispositor Jupiter aspects the 8H of death like experiences and > 6H of injuries. > > Rahu's affliction of the 7H is also significant as well as Ketu's > affliction to the ascendant. > > It would be useful to have more data about McCain's father and younger > brother and his relationship with them. > > > Ron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Hello Sally, Good points. Rahu and Ketu will afflict a total of 6 houses. ie 1,3,5,7,9,11. 5H and 11H are relatively strong and so Ra/Ke impact will be less. McCain has had problems with the significations relating to the other houses. The 9H affliction needs to be researched more in relation to his father and the relationship with him. He certainly has had some bad fortune. What holds this chart together (and him) is the close aspect of yogakaraka Sa to ascendant lord Ve. Ron Sally Spencer wrote: > Hi, > > I agree Thor.. > > Hi Ron, > > Although with the 21 degree rising, when his plane was downed, Rahu was > afflicting the third lord Jupiter at that time- Oct 26, 1967, within three > degrees and the MMP Mercury was afflicting the first at three degrees. In > the chart you propose the afflictions are severe by the nodes but also > afflict the houses inordinately. > > Aloha, > Sally > > John McCain's capture and imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was > flying his twenty-third bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E > Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[33][34] McCain fractured both > arms and a leg, and then nearly drowned, when he parachuted into Trúc B?ch > Lake in Hanoi.[33] After he regained consciousness, a crowd attacked him, > crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, and bayoneted him;[33] he was then > transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the " Hanoi Hilton " .[34] > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > >> Hi Ron, >> >> This is a very interesting suggesting. As a rather preliminary reaction, it >> would seem this chart would explain well the tremendous pain he has >> experienced in his life. At the same time, it has to be judged if such a >> close affliction by powerful functional malefics to 8 houses in his chart is >> consistent with the meteoric rise he has enjoyed in life. Only a close >> examination of life events would answer that question. Perhaps Wikipedia >> offers more information on his life. On the face of it, it would also seem >> that such an ascending degree would reduce his chances of gaining the >> Presidency. That said, I would have to study this chart closer to reach a >> conclusion on this suggestion and I won´t have time to do that until later. >> Perhaps others interested in the election can make their insights and >> views known. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Thor >> >> >> RonDay <ronkar >> samva >> Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:22:14 AM >> J. McCain –Towards Rectification >> >> A recent birth time was given for J. McCain as 11am ie approx. 24 Libra. >> I think that the birth time should be closer to 10am giving an ascendant >> between 9-10 Libra. >> >> It seems more probable that Rahu should be afflicting the 3H MEP and the >> houses it aspects. Similarly for Ketu. >> >> Rahu in 3H can give courage but near the cusp can affect the vitality. >> In the Ra/Ve period McCain was severely injured and suffered >> imprisonment. This was a low period in his life. >> Rahu's dispositor Jupiter aspects the 8H of death like experiences and >> 6H of injuries. >> >> Rahu's affliction of the 7H is also significant as well as Ketu's >> affliction to the ascendant. >> >> It would be useful to have more data about McCain's father and younger >> brother and his relationship with them. >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> --- >> >> </> Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 That's interesting. Thanks Ron.SallyOn Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:13 PM, RonDay <ronkar wrote: Hello Sally, Good points. Rahu and Ketu will afflict a total of 6 houses. ie 1,3,5,7,9,11. 5H and 11H are relatively strong and so Ra/Ke impact will be less. McCain has had problems with the significations relating to the other houses. The 9H affliction needs to be researched more in relation to his father and the relationship with him. He certainly has had some bad fortune. What holds this chart together (and him) is the close aspect of yogakaraka Sa to ascendant lord Ve. Ron Sally Spencer wrote: > Hi, > > I agree Thor.. > > Hi Ron, > > Although with the 21 degree rising, when his plane was downed, Rahu was > afflicting the third lord Jupiter at that time- Oct 26, 1967, within three > degrees and the MMP Mercury was afflicting the first at three degrees. In > the chart you propose the afflictions are severe by the nodes but also > afflict the houses inordinately. > > Aloha, > Sally > > John McCain's capture and imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was > flying his twenty-third bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E > Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[33][34] McCain fractured both > arms and a leg, and then nearly drowned, when he parachuted into Trúc B?ch > Lake in Hanoi.[33] After he regained consciousness, a crowd attacked him, > crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, and bayoneted him;[33] he was then > transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the " Hanoi Hilton " .[34] > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > >> Hi Ron, >> >> This is a very interesting suggesting. As a rather preliminary reaction, it >> would seem this chart would explain well the tremendous pain he has >> experienced in his life. At the same time, it has to be judged if such a >> close affliction by powerful functional malefics to 8 houses in his chart is >> consistent with the meteoric rise he has enjoyed in life. Only a close >> examination of life events would answer that question. Perhaps Wikipedia >> offers more information on his life. On the face of it, it would also seem >> that such an ascending degree would reduce his chances of gaining the >> Presidency. That said, I would have to study this chart closer to reach a >> conclusion on this suggestion and I won´t have time to do that until later. >> Perhaps others interested in the election can make their insights and >> views known. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Thor >> >> >> RonDay <ronkar >> samva >> Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:22:14 AM >> J. McCain –Towards Rectification >> >> A recent birth time was given for J. McCain as 11am ie approx. 24 Libra. >> I think that the birth time should be closer to 10am giving an ascendant >> between 9-10 Libra. >> >> It seems more probable that Rahu should be afflicting the 3H MEP and the >> houses it aspects. Similarly for Ketu. >> >> Rahu in 3H can give courage but near the cusp can affect the vitality. >> In the Ra/Ve period McCain was severely injured and suffered >> imprisonment. This was a low period in his life. >> Rahu's dispositor Jupiter aspects the 8H of death like experiences and >> 6H of injuries. >> >> Rahu's affliction of the 7H is also significant as well as Ketu's >> affliction to the ascendant. >> >> It would be useful to have more data about McCain's father and younger >> brother and his relationship with them. >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> --- >> >> </> Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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