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Thursday, July 17, 2008

 

WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

Most astrologers use the historical event of the declaration of independence, notably events on July 4th 1776, for rectifying a natal chart for the USA. However, numerous problems with this approach have been identified by historical and legal scholars:To read more:

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/

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Dear Thor…

 

This is absolutely brilliant and monumental

work.

 

Great job……

 

Thank you! and best wishes,

 

David Hawthorne

 

 

SAMVA

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Thursday, July 17, 2008

 

WHAT

EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

Most

astrologers use the historical event of the declaration of independence,

notably events on July 4th 1776, for rectifying a natal chart for the USA.

However, numerous problems with this approach have been identified by

historical and legal scholars:

 

To read more:

 

 

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear David,

 

Thanks for your kind words, which are highly appreciated. After a

multi-year quest, the preponderance of the evidience, historical and

astrological, is finally coming together in an authentic chart for

the USA - the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union). It may take some

time for the sceptics to come around to this chart, given the many

firmly held views on a wide range of charts, but we can hope that

now that the historical case for the chart has been made, with valued

contributions from John TWB, and it has been thoroughly tested with

predictions, others will increasingly come around to it. Importantly,

an authentic mundane chart is yet another medium to show the value of

SA as a consistent system of astrology. Finally, praise be to our

teacher, , on this GURU PURNIMA day for all his

tireless efforts to guide our work in this challenging but rewarding

field. To him goes the greatest credit.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

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Dear friends,

 

I have added the following footnote in the article WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

Footnotes[1] Interestingly, the symbolism in the design of the US flag is consitent with the twofold nature of the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union as the nation's new constitution and formation of its union. On June 14, 1777, in order to establish an official flag for the new nation, the Continental Congress passed the first Flag Act: "Resolved, That the flag of the United States be made of thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new Constellation." This fact, so emblazoned in the nation's ultimate symbol, reveals fully the great importance the founders attributed to the formation of the Union.

 

In this regard, we should keep in mind that the process of legally establishing the Union was started on June 12, 1776 and completed on February 2, 1781 by the ratification of Maryland as the 13th and final state to do so.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Cosmologer <cosmologersamva Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:35:50 PM Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

 

Thursday, July 17, 2008

 

WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

Most astrologers use the historical event of the declaration of independence, notably events on July 4th 1776, for rectifying a natal chart for the USA. However, numerous problems with this approach have been identified by historical and legal scholars:To read more:

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/

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Dear Thor,A most excellent clarification.The Articles of Confederation were in governing force from March 1781 until March 1789. Consider the analogy of NASA rocketry: the ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION, the booster rocket, dropped away in 1789, leaving the USA module to continue in perpetual orbit, powered by second rocket. The Perpetual Union of February 2, 1781, the "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", has been governed since 1789 by the nation's second constitution, the "CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". [This title, as embedded in the longer text of the preamble to this second constitution.]Thanks,John--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

Cosmologer <cosmologerRe: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?SAMVA Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 10:02 AM

 

 

Dear friends,

 

I have added the following footnote in the article WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

Footnotes[1] Interestingly, the symbolism in the design of the US flag is consitent with the twofold nature of the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union as the nation's new constitution and formation of its union. On June 14, 1777, in order to establish an official flag for the new nation, the Continental Congress passed the first Flag Act: "Resolved, That the flag of the United States be made of thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new Constellation. " This fact, so emblazoned in the nation's ultimate symbol, reveals fully the great importance the founders attributed to the formation of the

Union.

 

In this regard, we should keep in mind that the process of legally establishing the Union was started on June 12, 1776 and completed on February 2, 1781 by the ratification of Maryland as the 13th and final state to do so.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:35:50 PM Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

 

Thursday, July 17, 2008

 

WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

Most astrologers use the historical event of the declaration of independence, notably events on July 4th 1776, for rectifying a natal chart for the USA. However, numerous problems with this approach have been identified by historical and legal scholars:To read more:

http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/

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Dear John,

 

What a fitting metaphor!

 

Looking back, this ongoing research has developed along two tracks. The first pillar is the accumulating circumstantial historical evdidence that has been unearthed. It is helping to develop and cement a strong historical case for the birth of the USA having taken place with the legal formation of the union. The second pillar is the astrological research with the Systems' Approach into the natal potential of this event, the dynamics behind historical events and predictions. All of this work is offering a splendid confirmation of the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union).

 

Thanks for your important contributions!

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

JohnTWB <blazingstar1776SAMVA Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 3:24:16 PMRe: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

 

 

Dear Thor,A most excellent clarification.The Articles of Confederation were in governing force from March 1781 until March 1789. Consider the analogy of NASA rocketry: the ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION, the booster rocket, dropped away in 1789, leaving the USA module to continue in perpetual orbit, powered by second rocket. The Perpetual Union of February 2, 1781, the "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", has been governed since 1789 by the nation's second constitution, the "CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". [This title, as embedded in the longer text of the preamble to this second constitution.]Thanks,John--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

Cosmologer <cosmologerRe: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?SAMVA Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

I have added the following footnote in the article WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

Footnotes[1] Interestingly, the symbolism in the design of the US flag is consitent with the twofold nature of the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union as the nation's new constitution and formation of its union. On June 14, 1777, in order to establish an official flag for the new nation, the Continental Congress passed the first Flag Act: "Resolved, That the flag of the United States be made of thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new Constellation. " This fact, so emblazoned in the nation's ultimate symbol, reveals fully the great importance the founders attributed to the formation of the

Union.

 

In this regard, we should keep in mind that the process of legally establishing the Union was started on June 12, 1776 and completed on February 2, 1781 by the ratification of Maryland as the 13th and final state to do so.

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:35:50 PM Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

 

Thursday, July 17, 2008

 

WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

Most astrologers use the historical event of the declaration of independence, notably events on July 4th 1776, for rectifying a natal chart for the USA. However, numerous problems with this approach have been identified by historical and legal scholars:To read more:

http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/

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Dear Thor and John,

 

This is fantastic work and contributions to mundane astrology. Keep it up.

 

Also Thor, your work on the Pakistan predictions are appreciated by me, and

I am sure, many.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Cosmologer " <cosmologer

<SAMVA >

Friday, August 08, 2008 12:26 PM

Re: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

 

Dear John,

What a fitting metaphor!

Looking back, this ongoing research has developed along two tracks. The

first pillar is the accumulating circumstantial historical evdidence that

has been unearthed. It is helping to develop and cement a strong historical

case for the birth of the USA having taken place with the legal formation of

the union. The second pillar is the astrological research with the Systems'

Approach into the natal potential of this event, the dynamics behind

historical events and predictions. All of this work is offering a splendid

confirmation of the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union).

Thanks for your important contributions!

Best wishes,

Thor

 

 

 

 

JohnTWB <blazingstar1776

SAMVA

Friday, August 8, 2008 3:24:16 PM

Re: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

 

Dear Thor,

 

A most excellent clarification.

 

The Articles of Confederation were in governing force from March 1781 until

March 1789. Consider the analogy of NASA rocketry: the ARTICLES OF

CONFEDERATION, the booster rocket, dropped away in 1789, leaving the USA

module to continue in perpetual orbit, powered by second rocket.

 

The Perpetual Union of February 2, 1781, the " UNITED STATES OF AMERICA " , has

been governed since 1789 by the nation's second constitution, the

" CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA " . [This

title, as embedded in the longer text of the preamble to this second

constitution.]

 

Thanks,

 

John

 

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer

Re: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

SAMVA

Friday, August 8, 2008, 10:02 AM

 

 

Dear friends,

 

I have added the following footnote in the article WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO

THE USA?

 

Footnotes

[1] Interestingly, the symbolism in the design of the US flag is consitent

with the twofold nature of the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union

as the nation's new constitution and formation of its union. On June 14,

1777, in order to establish an official flag for the new nation, the

Continental Congress passed the first Flag Act: " Resolved, That the flag of

the United States be made of thirteen stripes, alternate red and white;

thatthe union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new

Constellation. " This fact, so emblazoned in the nation's ultimate symbol,

reveals fully the great importance the founders attributed to the formation

of the Union.

 

In this regard, we should keep in mind that the process of legally

establishing the Union was started on June 12, 1776 and completed on

February 2, 1781 by the ratification of Maryland as the 13th and final state

to do so.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer >

samva

Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:35:50 PM

Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

 

 

Thursday, July 17, 2008

WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?

Most astrologers use the historical event of the declaration of

independence, notably events on July 4th 1776, for rectifying a natal chart

for the USA. However, numerous problems with this approach have been

identified by historical and legal scholars:

 

To read more:

http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/

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Dear Vyas,

 

Thank you for the kind words.

 

Now that we have the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union), hopefully more and more astrologers will make use of it.

 

In my work on SAMVA I am trying to show how easy it is to make accurate predictions by applying the Systems' Approach with a focus on major transit events. In fact, any dedicated SA astrologer can begin to make a name for him- or herself simply by doing simply that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Vyas Munidas <muni>SAMVA Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 4:45:57 PMRe: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?Dear Thor and John,This is fantastic work and contributions to mundane astrology. Keep it up.Also Thor, your work on the Pakistan predictions are appreciated by me, and I am sure, many.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Cosmologer" <cosmologer<SAMVA >Friday, August 08, 2008 12:26 PMRe: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?Dear John,What a

fitting metaphor!Looking back, this ongoing research has developed along two tracks. The first pillar is the accumulating circumstantial historical evdidence that has been unearthed. It is helping to develop and cement a strong historical case for the birth of the USA having taken place with the legal formation of the union. The second pillar is the astrological research with the Systems' Approach into the natal potential of this event, the dynamics behind historical events and predictions. All of this work is offering a splendid confirmation of the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union).Thanks for your important contributions!Best wishes,ThorJohnTWB <blazingstar1776SAMVA Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 3:24:16 PMRe: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?Dear Thor,A most excellent clarification.The Articles of Confederation were in governing force from March 1781 until March 1789. Consider the analogy of NASA rocketry: the ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION, the booster rocket, dropped away in 1789, leaving the USA module to continue in perpetual orbit, powered by second rocket.The Perpetual Union of February 2, 1781, the "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", has been governed since 1789 by the nation's second constitution, the "CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". [This title, as embedded in the longer text of the preamble to this second constitution.]Thanks,John--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:Cosmologer <cosmologerRe: Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?SAMVA Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 10:02 AMDear friends,I have added the following footnote in the article WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?Footnotes[1] Interestingly, the symbolism in the design of the US flag is consitent with the twofold nature of the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union as the nation's new constitution and formation of its union. On June 14, 1777, in order to establish an official flag for the new nation, the Continental Congress passed the first Flag Act: "Resolved, That the flag of the United

States be made of thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; thatthe union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new Constellation. " This fact, so emblazoned in the nation's ultimate symbol, reveals fully the great importance the founders attributed to the formation of the Union.In this regard, we should keep in mind that the process of legally establishing the Union was started on June 12, 1776 and completed on February 2, 1781 by the ratification of Maryland as the 13th and final state to do so.Best wishes,ThorCosmologer <cosmologer >samva Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:35:50 PM Blog: WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?Thursday, July 17, 2008WHAT EVENT GAVE BIRTH TO THE USA?Most astrologers use the historical event of the declaration of

independence, notably events on July 4th 1776, for rectifying a natal chart for the USA. However, numerous problems with this approach have been identified by historical and legal scholars:To read more:http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/---