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Gentlemen,The City of Philadelphia was America's seat of government during most of the period from the beginning of the Revolution, in 1774, until the seat was finally relocated to Washington, D.C., in 1800. The gaps in the dates, listed below, represent the periods of the other 'temporary' seats of government at: Baltimore, Lancaster, York, Princeton, Annapolis and New York

City. The exact dates of record for Philadelphia are:[1] First Continental CongressSeptember 5, 1774 until October 24, 1774[2] Second Continental CongressMay 10, 1775 until December 12, 1776March 5, 1777 until September 18, 1777July 2, 1778 until March 1, 1781[3] Congress of the

ConfederationMarch 2, 1781 until June 21 1783 [4] Congress of the United StatesDecember 6, 1790 until May 14, 1800With my best wishes to all,John--- On Wed, 7/30/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote:SIHA <vkchoudhryRe: Re: Rectified SAMVA USA chart / LA EarthquakeTo:

SAMVA Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 9:38 PM

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Thor, The location can be changed. Of course, we continue with the name of the chart as SAMVA USA chart.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

-

cosmologer

SAMVA

Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:09 PM

Re: Rectified SAMVA USA chart / LA Earthquake

 

 

Dear Jorge,Nice to see you post.Thank you for the proposal to change the 'location' of the SAMVA USA chart to Philadelphia, arguably the capitol of the new union. Keeping to the 20 degree ascendant, we only see a slight change in the placement of the Moon, from 7:24 to 7:20 and some days in the dasa/bukhti sequence. I have earlier thought about this but hadn't made up my mind on it.If John TWB can confirm the capitol status and agrees with the location, we can make the change permanent in the chart. Even then, I prefer we still call the chart the same name as until now.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "Jorge Angelino" <jorge.angelino@ ...> wrote:>> Dear List Members,> > Here is the rectified SAMVA USA chart:> > USA 1781, rectified> Feb 2, 1781 4:57:37 PM +05:00 LMT> Philadelphia, PA:USA Longitude: 75W10 Latitude: 39N57> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 20:48 Current Period: VE/JU/MO> Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> ============ ========= ========= ========= =========> Asc 19:49 Can Aslesha Me> Sun 23:44 Cap +01:00:47 ST Dhanishtha Ma> Moon 07:19 Tau +12:32:15 ST Krittika Su> Mars 10:07 Sco +00:35:47 ST Anuradha Sa> Merc 12:05 Cap +01:36:47 CM Shravana Mo> Jupt 04:25 Sco +00:06:37 FM Anuradha Sa> Ven 23:50 Sag +01:14:04 WK P.Shadya Ve> Sat 26:46 Sco +00:04:52 FM Jyeshtha Me> Rahu 17:47 Ari -00:01:08 FM Bharani Ve> Ketu 17:47 Lib -00:01:08 FM Swati Ra> True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 957 beats> Day: Friday Sunrise: 7:09 AM> Tithi: Shukla Navami> Yoga Pt: 4:23 Ge Yogi:Ma AviYogi:Ke Dup Yogi: Me> Dagha Rashis: Leo Sco> Rashi Chart> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******> ** 5 * * 3 **> *6 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * 4 AS 19:49 * 2 MO 07:19*> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** * * **> *7 KE 17:47 * 1 RA 17:47 *> ** * * **> *8 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> *JU 04:25 * * ME 12:05 * * *> *MA 10:07 * 10 SU 23:44 * 12 *> *SA 26:46 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * VE 23:50 * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** 9 * * 11 **> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******> Navamsha> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******> ** 10 * * 8 **> *11* * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * VE * *> * * * * * *> * * 9 AS * 7 MA *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** MO * * **> *12 SA * 6 RA *> ** KE * * **> *1 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * SU *> *ME * 3 * 5 JU *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** 2 * * 4 **> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******> Best wishes,> > Jorge>

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Dear John, , Jorge and list members,

 

Thank you for the detailed information, John. It is very helpful.

 

My prevarication on this issue has concerned the fact that the USA became a

Union on Feb. 2, 1781. Until that time things seemed to be rather unsettled as

regards a formal government.I was therefore content to use Annapolis where the

event took place. However, as Philadelphia was being used as the place for the

Congress of the 13 states and the Union belonged to all of them, a case could

also be made to use this city for the SAMVA USA chart. Ultimately, the decision

did not feel pressing as the astrological dynamics remain for the greatest part

unchanged.

 

The fact that you consider the city as the basis of their government at that

time makes the decision easy with regard to the history.

 

Also, as finds this location theoretically acceptable, and it

is in line with earlier treatment of e.g. IPO charts, we will from now on use

Philadelphia as the city for this chart.

 

Finally, thanks to Jorge. Angelino for prompting this timely discussion and

decision, thereby becoming a participant in the evolution of the SAMVA USA

chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , JohnTWB <blazingstar1776 wrote:

>

> Gentlemen,

>

> The City of Philadelphia was America's seat of government during most of the

period from the beginning of the Revolution, in 1774, until the seat was finally

relocated to Washington, D.C., in 1800. The gaps in the dates, listed below,

represent the periods of the other 'temporary' seats of government at:

Baltimore, Lancaster, York, Princeton, Annapolis and New York

City.                                                                           \

                             

>

> The exact dates of record for Philadelphia are:

>

> [1] First Continental Congress

>

> September 5, 1774 until October 24, 1774

>

> [2] Second Continental Congress

>

> May 10, 1775 until December 12, 1776

> March 5, 1777 until September 18, 1777

> July 2, 1778 until March 1, 1781

>

> [3] Congress of the Confederation

>

> March 2, 1781 until June 21

1783                                                                            

>

> [4] Congress of the United States

>

> December 6, 1790 until May 14, 1800

>

>

> With my best wishes to all,

>

> John

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 7/30/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote:

> SIHA <vkchoudhry

> Re: Re: Rectified SAMVA USA chart / LA Earthquake

> SAMVA

> Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 9:38 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Hello dear Mr. Thor,

>  

> The location can

> be changed. Of course, we continue with the name of the chart as SAMVA USA

> chart.

>  

> Best wishes.

>  

>

>

>  

>  

>

> -

>

> cosmologer

> SAMVA

> Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:09

> PM

> Re: Rectified SAMVA USA

> chart / LA Earthquake

>

>

>

> Dear Jorge,

>

> Nice to see you post.

>

> Thank you for the proposal

> to change the 'location' of the SAMVA USA chart to Philadelphia, arguably

the

> capitol of the new union. Keeping to the 20 degree ascendant, we only see a

> slight change in the placement of the Moon, from 7:24 to 7:20 and some days

in

> the dasa/bukhti sequence. I have earlier thought about this but hadn't made

up

> my mind on it.

>

> If John TWB can confirm the capitol status and Professor

> Choudhry agrees with the location, we can make the change permanent in the

> chart. Even then, I prefer we still call the chart the same name as until

> now.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , " Jorge

> Angelino " <jorge.angelino@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear List

> Members,

> >

> > Here is the rectified SAMVA USA chart:

> >

>

> > USA 1781, rectified

> > Feb 2, 1781 4:57:37 PM +05:00 LMT

> >

> Philadelphia, PA:USA Longitude: 75W10 Latitude: 39N57

> > Lahiri

> Ayanamsha: 20:48 Current Period: VE/JU/MO

> > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA

> Nakshatra Lord

> >

> ============ ========= ========= ========= =========

> >

> Asc 19:49 Can Aslesha Me

> > Sun 23:44 Cap +01:00:47 ST Dhanishtha

> Ma

> > Moon 07:19 Tau +12:32:15 ST Krittika Su

> > Mars 10:07 Sco

> +00:35:47 ST Anuradha Sa

> > Merc 12:05 Cap +01:36:47 CM Shravana

> Mo

> > Jupt 04:25 Sco +00:06:37 FM Anuradha Sa

> > Ven 23:50 Sag

> +01:14:04 WK P.Shadya Ve

> > Sat 26:46 Sco +00:04:52 FM Jyeshtha

> Me

> > Rahu 17:47 Ari -00:01:08 FM Bharani Ve

> > Ketu 17:47 Lib

> -00:01:08 FM Swati Ra

> > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 957

> beats

> > Day: Friday Sunrise: 7:09 AM

> > Tithi: Shukla

> Navami

> > Yoga Pt: 4:23 Ge Yogi:Ma AviYogi:Ke Dup Yogi: Me

> > Dagha

> Rashis: Leo Sco

> > Rashi Chart

> >

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******

> >

> ** 5 * * 3 **

> > *6 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * *

> *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * 4 AS 19:49 * 2 MO

> 07:19*

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * *

> * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** * * **

> > *7 KE 17:47 * 1 RA 17:47

> *

> > ** * * **

> > *8 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * *

> *

> > * * * * * *

> > *JU 04:25 * * ME 12:05 * * *

> > *MA 10:07 *

> 10 SU 23:44 * 12 *

> > *SA 26:46 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * *

> VE 23:50 * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** 9 * * 11

> **

> >

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******

> >

> Navamsha

> >

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******

> >

> ** 10 * * 8 **

> > *11* * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * *

> *

> > * * * VE * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * 9 AS * 7 MA *

> > *

> * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> >

> * * * * * *

> > ** MO * * **

> > *12 SA * 6 RA *

> > ** KE * *

> **

> > *1 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * *

> * * *

> > * * * * * SU *

> > *ME * 3 * 5 JU *

> > * * * * *

> *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * *

> * *

> > ** 2 * * 4 **

> >

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******

> >

> Best wishes,

> >

> > Jorge

> >

>

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Dear John, , Jorge and list members,

 

Thank you for the detailed information, John. It is very helpful.

 

My prevarication on this issue has concerned the fact that the USA became a

Union on Feb. 2, 1781. Until that time things seemed to be rather unsettled as

regards a formal government.I was therefore content to use Annapolis where the

event took place. However, as Philadelphia was being used as the place for the

Congress of the 13 states and the Union belonged to all of them, a case could

also be made to use this city for the SAMVA USA chart. Ultimately, the decision

did not feel pressing as the astrological dynamics remain for the greatest part

unchanged.

 

The fact that you consider the city as the basis of their government at that

time makes the decision easy with regard to the history.

 

Also, as finds this location theoretically acceptable, and it

is in line with earlier treatment of e.g. IPO charts, we will from now on use

Philadelphia as the city for this chart.

 

Finally, thanks to Jorge. Angelino for prompting this timely discussion and

decision, thereby becoming a participant in the evolution of the SAMVA USA

chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , JohnTWB <blazingstar1776 wrote:

>

> Gentlemen,

>

> The City of Philadelphia was America's seat of government during most of the

period from the beginning of the Revolution, in 1774, until the seat was finally

relocated to Washington, D.C., in 1800. The gaps in the dates, listed below,

represent the periods of the other 'temporary' seats of government at:

Baltimore, Lancaster, York, Princeton, Annapolis and New York

City.                                                                           \

                             

>

> The exact dates of record for Philadelphia are:

>

> [1] First Continental Congress

>

> September 5, 1774 until October 24, 1774

>

> [2] Second Continental Congress

>

> May 10, 1775 until December 12, 1776

> March 5, 1777 until September 18, 1777

> July 2, 1778 until March 1, 1781

>

> [3] Congress of the Confederation

>

> March 2, 1781 until June 21

1783                                                                            

>

> [4] Congress of the United States

>

> December 6, 1790 until May 14, 1800

>

>

> With my best wishes to all,

>

> John

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 7/30/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote:

> SIHA <vkchoudhry

> Re: Re: Rectified SAMVA USA chart / LA Earthquake

> SAMVA

> Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 9:38 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Hello dear Mr. Thor,

>  

> The location can

> be changed. Of course, we continue with the name of the chart as SAMVA USA

> chart.

>  

> Best wishes.

>  

>

>

>  

>  

>

> -

>

> cosmologer

> SAMVA

> Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:09

> PM

> Re: Rectified SAMVA USA

> chart / LA Earthquake

>

>

>

> Dear Jorge,

>

> Nice to see you post.

>

> Thank you for the proposal

> to change the 'location' of the SAMVA USA chart to Philadelphia, arguably

the

> capitol of the new union. Keeping to the 20 degree ascendant, we only see a

> slight change in the placement of the Moon, from 7:24 to 7:20 and some days

in

> the dasa/bukhti sequence. I have earlier thought about this but hadn't made

up

> my mind on it.

>

> If John TWB can confirm the capitol status and Professor

> Choudhry agrees with the location, we can make the change permanent in the

> chart. Even then, I prefer we still call the chart the same name as until

> now.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , " Jorge

> Angelino " <jorge.angelino@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear List

> Members,

> >

> > Here is the rectified SAMVA USA chart:

> >

>

> > USA 1781, rectified

> > Feb 2, 1781 4:57:37 PM +05:00 LMT

> >

> Philadelphia, PA:USA Longitude: 75W10 Latitude: 39N57

> > Lahiri

> Ayanamsha: 20:48 Current Period: VE/JU/MO

> > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA

> Nakshatra Lord

> >

> ============ ========= ========= ========= =========

> >

> Asc 19:49 Can Aslesha Me

> > Sun 23:44 Cap +01:00:47 ST Dhanishtha

> Ma

> > Moon 07:19 Tau +12:32:15 ST Krittika Su

> > Mars 10:07 Sco

> +00:35:47 ST Anuradha Sa

> > Merc 12:05 Cap +01:36:47 CM Shravana

> Mo

> > Jupt 04:25 Sco +00:06:37 FM Anuradha Sa

> > Ven 23:50 Sag

> +01:14:04 WK P.Shadya Ve

> > Sat 26:46 Sco +00:04:52 FM Jyeshtha

> Me

> > Rahu 17:47 Ari -00:01:08 FM Bharani Ve

> > Ketu 17:47 Lib

> -00:01:08 FM Swati Ra

> > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 957

> beats

> > Day: Friday Sunrise: 7:09 AM

> > Tithi: Shukla

> Navami

> > Yoga Pt: 4:23 Ge Yogi:Ma AviYogi:Ke Dup Yogi: Me

> > Dagha

> Rashis: Leo Sco

> > Rashi Chart

> >

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******

> >

> ** 5 * * 3 **

> > *6 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * *

> *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * 4 AS 19:49 * 2 MO

> 07:19*

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * *

> * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** * * **

> > *7 KE 17:47 * 1 RA 17:47

> *

> > ** * * **

> > *8 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * *

> *

> > * * * * * *

> > *JU 04:25 * * ME 12:05 * * *

> > *MA 10:07 *

> 10 SU 23:44 * 12 *

> > *SA 26:46 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * *

> VE 23:50 * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** 9 * * 11

> **

> >

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******

> >

> Navamsha

> >

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******

> >

> ** 10 * * 8 **

> > *11* * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * *

> *

> > * * * VE * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * 9 AS * 7 MA *

> > *

> * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> >

> * * * * * *

> > ** MO * * **

> > *12 SA * 6 RA *

> > ** KE * *

> **

> > *1 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * *

> * * *

> > * * * * * SU *

> > *ME * 3 * 5 JU *

> > * * * * *

> *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * *

> * *

> > ** 2 * * 4 **

> >

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* *******

> >

> Best wishes,

> >

> > Jorge

> >

>

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