Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Dear list members, One of the striking things with the 20° Gemini rising chart for the Union of Russia and Belorus, is the affliction of a debilitated and combust 4th lord MERCURY by FM KETU in the 10th house while the 4th MEP is afflicted by FM RAHU. 3rd lord SUN is also afflicted by the nodes. It is not helping that the 2nd lord MOON is in old age in the 3rd house. These natal placements suggest that Russia would experience frequent large earthquakes. Not surprisingly, the data confirms that there have been a number of earthquakes to strike RUSSIA in recent years. However, the loss of life has not been pronounced and the majority of the earthquakes strike in outlying and sparsely populated areas. As per the following directional scheme in SA, we can see where the earthquakes would be expected to strike within the country. DIRECTIONS: PLANETSSun: EastMoon: North-West Mars: South Mercury: North Jupiter: North-EastVenus: South-EastSaturn: WestRahu: South-West Ketu: North-East DIRECTIONS: SIGNS ARIES: EastTAURUS: South GEMINI: WestCANCER: NorthLEO: East VIRGO: South LIBRA: WestSCORPIO: NorthSAGITTARIUS: EastCAPRICORN: South AQUARIUS: WestPISCES: North DIRECTIONS: HOUSES FIRST: EastTHIRD: South South EastFOURTH: SouthFIFTH: South West SIXTH: South South West SEVENTH: WestEIGHTH: North North WestNINTH: North WestTENTH: North ELEVENTH: North North EastTWELFTH: North East From the above list, given the planets primarily involved, we would expect the earthquakes to take place mostly in a Northerly, North-Easterly or Easterly direction: MERCURY, Pisces and 10th house: NORTH KETU: NORTH-EAST (the primary cause of the earthquakes) SUN: EAST RAHU: South-WEST In fact, the earthquakes are taking place in the North (Siberia) but most often in the North East (Kamchatka, Kuril islands, Pirmor'ye and Komandorskiye) 1997 12 05 - Near East Coast of Kamchatka - M 7.8 2002 11 17 - Kuril Islands, Russia - M 7.3 2003 07 27 - Primor'ye, Russia - M 6.8 2003 09 27 - Southwestern Siberia, Russia - M 7.3 Fatalities 3 2003 10 01 - Southwestern Siberia, Russia - M 6.7 2003 12 05 - Komandorskiye Ostrova, Russia Region - M 6.7 2004 06 10 - Kamchatka Peninsula, Russia - M 6.9 2006 04 20 - Koryakia, Russia - M 7.6 2006 11 15 - Kuril Islands - M 8.3 2007 01 13 - East of the Kuril Islands - M 8.1 http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/world/historical_country.php#russia Best wishes, Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hello my dear Thor, This gives a perfect ascending sign and rising degree for further validation throught further prediction and observations. The chart does indicate good international position (strong Sun and Jupiter) and vulnerable economy, domestic peace and sensitive gains and fortunes. Best wishes. - Cosmologer samva Sunday, August 17, 2008 4:59 AM Earthquakes in Russia Dear list members, One of the striking things with the 20° Gemini rising chart for the Union of Russia and Belorus, is the affliction of a debilitated and combust 4th lord MERCURY by FM KETU in the 10th house while the 4th MEP is afflicted by FM RAHU. 3rd lord SUN is also afflicted by the nodes. It is not helping that the 2nd lord MOON is in old age in the 3rd house. These natal placements suggest that Russia would experience frequent large earthquakes. Not surprisingly, the data confirms that there have been a number of earthquakes to strike RUSSIA in recent years. However, the loss of life has not been pronounced and the majority of the earthquakes strike in outlying and sparsely populated areas. As per the following directional scheme in SA, we can see where the earthquakes would be expected to strike within the country. DIRECTIONS: PLANETSSun: EastMoon: North-West Mars: South Mercury: North Jupiter: North-EastVenus: South-EastSaturn: WestRahu: South-West Ketu: North-East DIRECTIONS: SIGNS ARIES: EastTAURUS: South GEMINI: WestCANCER: NorthLEO: East VIRGO: South LIBRA: WestSCORPIO: NorthSAGITTARIUS: EastCAPRICORN: South AQUARIUS: WestPISCES: North DIRECTIONS: HOUSES FIRST: EastTHIRD: South South EastFOURTH: SouthFIFTH: South West SIXTH: South South West SEVENTH: WestEIGHTH: North North WestNINTH: North WestTENTH: North ELEVENTH: North North EastTWELFTH: North East From the above list, given the planets primarily involved, we would expect the earthquakes to take place mostly in a Northerly, North-Easterly or Easterly direction: MERCURY, Pisces and 10th house: NORTH KETU: NORTH-EAST (the primary cause of the earthquakes) SUN: EAST RAHU: South-WEST In fact, the earthquakes are taking place in the North (Siberia) but most often in the North East (Kamchatka, Kuril islands, Pirmor'ye and Komandorskiye) 1997 12 05 - Near East Coast of Kamchatka - M 7.8 2002 11 17 - Kuril Islands, Russia - M 7.3 2003 07 27 - Primor'ye, Russia - M 6.8 2003 09 27 - Southwestern Siberia, Russia - M 7.3 Fatalities 3 2003 10 01 - Southwestern Siberia, Russia - M 6.7 2003 12 05 - Komandorskiye Ostrova, Russia Region - M 6.7 2004 06 10 - Kamchatka Peninsula, Russia - M 6.9 2006 04 20 - Koryakia, Russia - M 7.6 2006 11 15 - Kuril Islands - M 8.3 2007 01 13 - East of the Kuril Islands - M 8.1 http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/world/historical_country.php#russia Best wishes, Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Dear Thor,I think we all Samva members are very very fortunate to get such good analysis from You, which helps us all in understanding the Mundane Astrology to the core.Best Regards Ajay.--- On Sat, 8/16/08, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Cosmologer <cosmologer Earthquakes in Russiasamva Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 4:29 PM Dear list members, One of the striking things with the 20° Gemini rising chart for the Union of Russia and Belorus, is the affliction of a debilitated and combust 4th lord MERCURY by FM KETU in the 10th house while the 4th MEP is afflicted by FM RAHU. 3rd lord SUN is also afflicted by the nodes. It is not helping that the 2nd lord MOON is in old age in the 3rd house. These natal placements suggest that Russia would experience frequent large earthquakes. Not surprisingly, the data confirms that there have been a number of earthquakes to strike RUSSIA in recent years. However, the loss of life has not been pronounced and the majority of the earthquakes strike in outlying and sparsely populated areas. As per the following directional scheme in SA, we can see where the earthquakes would be expected to strike within the country. DIRECTIONS: PLANETSSun: EastMoon: North-West Mars: South Mercury: North Jupiter: North-EastVenus: South-EastSaturn: WestRahu: South-West Ketu: North-East DIRECTIONS: SIGNS ARIES: EastTAURUS: South GEMINI: WestCANCER: NorthLEO: East VIRGO: South LIBRA: WestSCORPIO: NorthSAGITTARIUS: EastCAPRICORN: South AQUARIUS: WestPISCES: North DIRECTIONS: HOUSES FIRST: EastTHIRD: South South EastFOURTH: SouthFIFTH: South West SIXTH: South South West SEVENTH: WestEIGHTH: North North WestNINTH: North WestTENTH: North ELEVENTH: North North EastTWELFTH: North East From the above list, given the planets primarily involved, we would expect the earthquakes to take place mostly in a Northerly, North-Easterly or Easterly direction: MERCURY, Pisces and 10th house: NORTH KETU: NORTH-EAST (the primary cause of the earthquakes) SUN: EAST RAHU: South-WEST In fact, the earthquakes are taking place in the North (Siberia) but most often in the North East (Kamchatka, Kuril islands, Pirmor'ye and Komandorskiye) 1997 12 05 - Near East Coast of Kamchatka - M 7.8 2002 11 17 - Kuril Islands, Russia - M 7.3 2003 07 27 - Primor'ye, Russia - M 6.8 2003 09 27 - Southwestern Siberia, Russia - M 7.3 Fatalities 3 2003 10 01 - Southwestern Siberia, Russia - M 6.7 2003 12 05 - Komandorskiye Ostrova , Russia Region - M 6.7 2004 06 10 - Kamchatka Peninsula , Russia - M 6.9 2006 04 20 - Koryakia , Russia - M 7.6 2006 11 15 - Kuril Islands - M 8.3 2007 01 13 - East of the Kuril Islands - M 8.1 http://earthquake. usgs.gov/ regional/ world/historical _country. php#russia Best wishes, Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Dear Ajay, Thank you for the kind words. I am trying my best. That said, rectification is always challenging and a chart that is ultimately judged to be authentic has to fulfill three main criteria. It has to 1) show the right natal potential for the country in question 2) explain historical events 3) serve as a basis for accurate prediction So far, this chart shows clear promise with regard to 1). As regards, 2) the chart explains two major events impacting the people in the past twelve years, as mentioned in my first message. However, with regard my study of the earthquake events, I am coming up with explanations that are complex due to inter-twined influences. This is less straightforward in terms of the transit to natal, transit to transit and natal to transit influences that one normally finds in charts with more functional malefics. This may be an attribute of the Gemini ascending sign. At the same time, it is important to keep in mind that the events in question are occuring in outlying areas and away from populated areas. As such, they are not bothering many people and may more be reflecting the clear natal vulnerabilities. At the same time, due to the observed natal weakness involving MERCURY in the chart, some events are expected, including during the middle of September 2008. Only through further predictive work and observation, as our dear mentions, can we determine if this chart is truly authentic. Below I analyse the main transit to natal contacts in several recent earthquake events: 13 January 2007 Magnitude 8.1 Date-Time Saturday, January 13, 2007 at 04:23:20 UTC Saturday, January 13, 2007 at 02:23:20 PM at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones Location 46.272°N, 154.455°E Depth 10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program Region EAST OF THE KURIL ISLANDS - Moon/SATURN period is operating - transit KETU at 23° 53' Leo and 3rd house afflicting natal JUPITER at 22° 15' Sagittarius and 7th house, transit 3rd lord SUN and afflicting 3rd, 7th, 9th and 11th houses. - 3rd lord SUN at 28° 45' Sagittarius and 7th house is weak in old age- transit 4th lord MERCURY at 2° 33' Capricorn and 8th house is weak due to combustion and bad placement. - 7th lord JUPITER at 16° 41' Scorpio and 6th house is badly placed. - transit 9th lord SATURN at 29° 43' Cancer and 2nd house is weak in advanced old age - transit 2nd lord MOON at 17° Libra and 5th house, is dispositor of SATURN. - transit 5th lord VENUS at 17° Capricorn and 8th house, the dispositor of the MOON and hence SATURN, is weak due to bad placement. 15 Novmber 2006 Magnitude 8.3 Date-Time Wednesday, November 15, 2006 at 11:14:16 (UTC)= Coordinated Universal Time Wednesday, November 15, 2006 at 10:14:16 PM = local time at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones Location 46.607°N, 153.230°E Depth 30.3 km (18.8 miles) Region KURIL ISLANDS - Moon/SATURN period is operating- transit KETU at 29° 45' Leo and 3rd house conjunct natal 2nd lord MOON at 28° 37' Leo. - transit RAHU at 29° 45' Aquarius and 9th house afflicts transit 3rd lord SUN at 29° Libra and 5th house - transit 5th lord VENUS at 4° 26' Scorpio and 6th house is weak due to infancy and bad placement, but also conjunct 7th lord JUPITER at 4° 14' Scorpio, which offers protection. - transit 4th lord MERCURY at 16° Libra and 5th house is weakened due to placement of dispositor - transit 9th lord SATURN at 0° 44' Leo and 3rd house is weakened due to infancy and affliction of dispositor in transit - transit MOON and MARS although well placed are both weakened in transit due to bad placement of ultimate dispositor, VENUS. April 20, 2006 Magnitude 7.6 Date-Time Thursday, April 20, 2006 at 23:25:02 (UTC)= Coordinated Universal Time Friday, April 21, 2006 at 12:25:02 PM = local time at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones Location 61.075°N, 167.085°E Depth 22 km (13.7 miles) set by location program Region KORYAKIA, RUSSIA - Moon-SATURN period is operating - transit RAHU at 10° 07' Pisces and 10th house is conjunct transit 4th lord MERCURY at 13° 08' Pisces and natal 11th lord MARS at 12° 55' Pisces and afflicting transit SATURN at 10° 39' Cancer and 2nd house - transit KETU at 10° 07' Virgo and 4th house is afflicting also natal 2nd lord MOON at 13° Capricorn and 8th house - helpful aspects of transit MARS and JUPITER are noted, offering protection. 10 June 2004 Magnitude 6.9 (Strong) Date-Time Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 15:19:57 (UTC)= Coordinated Universal Time Friday, June 11, 2004 at 4:19:57 AM = local time at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones Location 55.713°N, 160.031°E Depth 184.3 km (114.5 miles) set by location program Region KAMCHATKA PENINSULA, RUSSIA Moon-JUPITER period is operating - transit RAHU at 16° 41' ARIES and 11th house afflicts transit JUPITER at 16° 49' Leo and 3rd house - natal RAHU at 23° 20' Virgo and 4th house afflicts transit 5th lord VENUS at 22° 08' Taurus and 12th house, transit 3rd lord SUN at 26° 46' Taurus and 12th house. VENUS and SUN are weakened by bad placement. - transit 4th lord MERCURY at 17° 36' Taurus and 12th house is badly placed and weakened. - transit KETU at 16° 41' Libra and 5th house afflicts transit SATURN at 19° 24' Gemini and 1st house. 5 December 2003 Magnitude 6.7 Date-Time Friday, December 5, 2003 at 21:26:09 (UTC)= Coordinated Universal Time Saturday, December 6, 2003 at 9:26:09 AM = local time at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones Location 55.500°N, 165.763°E Depth 10 km (6 miles) set by location program Region KOMANDORSKIYE OSTROVA, RUSSIA Moon-RAHU period is operating - Transit RAHU at 26° 32' Aries and 11th house is conjunct transit 2nd lord MOON at 24° 46' Aries and afflicts natal MOON at 28° 37' Leo and 2nd house and transit 7th lord JUPITER at 23° 43' Leo and 3rd house - transit 4th lord MERCURY and transit 5th lord VENUS in Sagittarius and 7th house, disposited by weak and afflicted JUPITER - natal KETU at 23° 20' Pisces and 10th house afflicts transit 3rd lord SUN at 20° 02' Scorpio and 6th house, dispositor of JUPITER Magnitude 7.3 Date-Time Saturday, September 27, 2003 at 11:33:25 (UTC)= Coordinated Universal Time Saturday, September 27, 2003 at 6:33:25 PM = local time at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones Location 49.954°N, 87.832°E Depth 18 km (11 miles) set by location program Region SOUTHWESTERN SIBERIA, RUSSIA Moon-RAHU period is operating - Transit RAHU at 27° 23' Aries and 11th house afflicts natal MOON at 28° 37' Leo and transit 4th lord MERCURY at 22° 40' Leo and 3rd house - natal RAHU at 23° 20' Virgo and 4th house afflicts transit 5th lord VENUS at 21° 17' Virgo 27 July 2003 Magnitude 6.8 Date-Time 2003 07 27 06:25:33 UTCTime of Earthquake in other Time Zones Location 47.17N 139.24E Depth 481.4 kilometers Region PRIMOR'YE, RUSSIA Moon-RAHU period is operating - Transit KETU at 3° 22' Scorpio and 6th house afflicts natal SATURN at 5° 34' Pisces and 10th house and transit 5th lord VENUS at 4° 27' Cancer and 2nd house - transit SUN and JUPITER in Cancer and 2nd house, which is natally afflicted by KETU - transit MERCURY at 1° Leo and 3rd house weakened due to infancy November 17, 2002 Magnitude 7.3 Time Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 4:53:51 (UTC) Distance from 111 km (69 miles) N (11 degrees) of Northwest of Kuril Islands, Russia Coordinates 47 deg. 58.8 min. N (47.980N) 146 deg. 17.5 min. E (146.291E) Moon-RAHU period is operating - Transit KETU at 14° 47' Scorpio and 6th house afflicts natal 11th lord MARS at 12° 55' Pisces and 10th house while transit 11th lord MARS at 27° 12' Virgo and 4th house is conjunct natal RAHU at 23° 20' Virgo - transit MERCURY at 3° Scorpio and 6th house with transit 3rd lord SUN at 1° Scorpio both weakened by bad placement and infancy - transit MOON at 5° Aries and 11th house, dispositor of JUPITER in Cancer and 2nd house, is weak due to transit afflictions involving MARS 1997 December 05 Magnitude 7.8 Date-Time 1997 12 05 11:26:54 UTC Location 54.84N 162.03E Depth 33 kilometers Region Near East Coast of Kamchatka Sun/JUPITER period is operating - transit RAHU at 21° 16' Leo and 3rd house is afflicting natal 7th lord JUPITER at 22° 15' Sagittarius and 7th house while natal RAHU afflicts transit JUPITER at 23° 31' Capricorn and 8th house. Transit JUPITER is weakened by debilitation and bad placement. - transit KETU at 21° 16' Aquarius and 9th house is afflicting 9th, 1st, 3rd and 5th houses. - transit SUN at 20° 02' Scorpio and 6th house is afflicted by natal KETU at 23° 20' Pisces and 10th house. Transit SATURN at 19° 48' Pisces is also afflicted by natal KETU. - transit MERCURY and transit MARS are in Sagittarius, weakened by afflictions to natal and transit JUPITER - transit VENUS is badly placed in Capricorn and 8th house In summary, there are connections, but they are not quite as straightforward as I would like to see in a few of the cases as seen in the exposition above. However, the acid test is always prediction when the chart suggests a significant event is likely to take place. In this regard we may consider the transits in MID SEPTEMBER 2008. While an event may occur at any time until then, we can note for instance the aspects on September 12, 2008: Moon/KETU period is operating -transit KETU at 24° 20' Cancer and 2nd house is closely afflicting natal 4th lord MERCURY at 24° 19' Pisces and 10th house and natal KETU at 23° 20' Pisces. - transit RAHU at 24° 20' Capricorn is closely afflicting natal RAHU at 23° 20' Virgo and 4th house - transit 4th lord MERCURY is closely conjunct natal RAHU at 23° 20' Virgo and 4th house - transit 11th lord MARS and transit 5th lord VENUS are also afflicted by natal and transit RAHU in 8th house - transit 2nd lord MOON at 23° Capricorn and 8th house is aspected by natal RAHU and conjunct transit RAHU. - transit 3rd lord SUN is in old age in Leo and 3rd house, along with transit SATURN. At such a time, we would expect, if the chart were authentic indeed, that some sudden significant event would take place that disturbs the communal harmony. Best wishes, Thor ajay sehg <ajaysehgSAMVA Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 4:27:03 AMRe: Earthquakes in Russia Dear Thor,I think we all Samva members are very very fortunate to get such good analysis from You, which helps us all in understanding the Mundane Astrology to the core.Best Regards Ajay.--- On Sat, 8/16/08, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Cosmologer <cosmologer Earthquakes in Russiasamva Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 4:29 PM Dear list members, One of the striking things with the 20° Gemini rising chart for the Union of Russia and Belorus, is the affliction of a debilitated and combust 4th lord MERCURY by FM KETU in the 10th house while the 4th MEP is afflicted by FM RAHU. 3rd lord SUN is also afflicted by the nodes. It is not helping that the 2nd lord MOON is in old age in the 3rd house. These natal placements suggest that Russia would experience frequent large earthquakes. Not surprisingly, the data confirms that there have been a number of earthquakes to strike RUSSIA in recent years. However, the loss of life has not been pronounced and the majority of the earthquakes strike in outlying and sparsely populated areas. As per the following directional scheme in SA, we can see where the earthquakes would be expected to strike within the country. DIRECTIONS: PLANETSSun: EastMoon: North-West Mars: South Mercury: North Jupiter: North-EastVenus: South-EastSaturn: WestRahu: South-West Ketu: North-East DIRECTIONS: SIGNS ARIES: EastTAURUS: South GEMINI: WestCANCER: NorthLEO: East VIRGO: South LIBRA: WestSCORPIO: NorthSAGITTARIUS: EastCAPRICORN: South AQUARIUS: WestPISCES: North DIRECTIONS: HOUSES FIRST: EastTHIRD: South South EastFOURTH: SouthFIFTH: South West SIXTH: South South West SEVENTH: WestEIGHTH: North North WestNINTH: North WestTENTH: North ELEVENTH: North North EastTWELFTH: North East From the above list, given the planets primarily involved, we would expect the earthquakes to take place mostly in a Northerly, North-Easterly or Easterly direction: MERCURY, Pisces and 10th house: NORTH KETU: NORTH-EAST (the primary cause of the earthquakes) SUN: EAST RAHU: South-WEST In fact, the earthquakes are taking place in the North (Siberia) but most often in the North East (Kamchatka, Kuril islands, Pirmor'ye and Komandorskiye) 1997 12 05 - Near East Coast of Kamchatka - M 7.8 2002 11 17 - Kuril Islands, Russia - M 7.3 2003 07 27 - Primor'ye, Russia - M 6.8 2003 09 27 - Southwestern Siberia, Russia - M 7.3 Fatalities 3 2003 10 01 - Southwestern Siberia, Russia - M 6.7 2003 12 05 - Komandorskiye Ostrova , Russia Region - M 6.7 2004 06 10 - Kamchatka Peninsula , Russia - M 6.9 2006 04 20 - Koryakia , Russia - M 7.6 2006 11 15 - Kuril Islands - M 8.3 2007 01 13 - East of the Kuril Islands - M 8.1 http://earthquake. usgs.gov/ regional/ world/historical _country. php#russia Best wishes, Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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