Saturn and the economy

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Dear Thor,

 

This is a very good post.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

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" Cosmologer " <cosmologer

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Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:01 PM

Saturn and the economy

 

 

Dear friends,

 

In early 1998, wrote an illuminating article which

highlighted the role of Saturn as an indicator of the economy.

 

INFLUENCES OF SATURN IN 1998 by Prof VKC.doc

Article by Prof Choudhry predicting global recession in 1998

SAMVA/files

 

At that time, transit Saturn was debilitated in the sign of Aries and in the

Spring came under the close affliction of transit Rahu in Leo until early

1999.

 

As we now know, the global economy succumbed to a bad financial crisis,

which was especially hard for Russia, which defaulted on its international

payments obligations in August of that year. This is seen clearly in the

chart for the UNION OF RUSSIA AND BELARUS, as explained in a recent blog.

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2008/08/union-of-russia-and-belarus.html

 

In another article in the same folder on the SAMVA web page we can see some

of the indications attributed to Saturn in mundane astrology.

 

MUNDANE ASTROLOGY.doc

List of mundane indications

SAMVA/files

 

SATURN: Civil servants, low technology industry and mines.

 

While these may not represent an exhaustive overview of the indications of

Saturn, they nevertheless reveal that it would have a significant bearing on

economic conditions. When incomes and employment are growing, so do

investment and consumption. Moreover, conditions of the economy have

repercussions for the financial system, notably the lending to firms for

investment and to income earners for consumption. At times of economic slow

down, when both unemployment rises and incomes may stagnate or decline, the

banks and other financial intermediaries normally reduce their lending. The

change in lending thus clearly amplifies the booms and busts. Depending on

the placement of Saturn in a natal chart of a country, the impact of

affliction to Saturn may range from being quite adverse to not so bad. In

1998, Saturn was in Aries and 10th house in the SAMVA USA chart, while Rahu

was in Leo and 2nd house. Both these houses are good. Moreover, during the

period of transit affliction, neither Rahu or Saturn were afflicting in the

chart. As a result, economic growth remained positive for that year and in

the following year, 1999.

 

There was one year that registered negative GDP growth in recent years. It

was 1982. Growth had been erratic due to Paul Volcker's decision to hike

interest rates in the early 1980s in order to bring down inflation.

 

Table 1: Annual GDP growth rates in the USA in early 1980s.1980 -0,2%

1981 2,5%

1982 -1,9%

1983 4,5%

 

To determine more closely at which times during each of these years the

growth was contracting the most, we can also look at the quarterly numbers,

at annual growth rate. The efforts of the Fed to bring down inflation had an

effect of reducing GDP growth some quarters, but most significantly in the

4th quarter of 1981 and 1st quarter of 1982. As growth was either anemic or

negative for the remainder of the year, the annual growth rate in 1982 was

negative by almost 2% that year.

 

Table 2: Quarterly growth at annual rates in early 1980s.

1980q1 0,3%

1980q2 -2,0%

1980q3 -0,2%

1980q4 1,9%

1981q1 2,0%

1981q2 -0,8%

1981q3 1,2%

1981q4 -1,2%

1982q1 -1,6%

1982q2 0,5%

1982q3 -0,4%

1982q4 0,1%

1983q1 1,2%

1983q2 2,3%

1983q3 2,0%

1983q4 2,0%

 

Mercury-RAHU period was operating from October 1981 to May 1984. During this

period it is clear there several afflictions involving natal and transit

Saturn, Jupiter and Rahu.

 

As Jupiter is important for inflation, the conjunction of 8th lord SATURN

and and 6th lord JUPITER in Virgo from October 1980 to October 1981 is very

important in this regard. From December 1980 to July 1981 this combination

was afflicted from transit FM KETU in Capricorn and 7th house, also

afflicting natal MERCURY, further adding to the angst. From November 1981 to

October 1982, transit SATURN then afflicted its natal placement, while

Jupiter became conjunct natal KETU in Libra and the 4th house.

 

Date Jupiter Saturn Rahu

1.1.1980 16°Le37'R 3°Vi24' 6°Le52'

31.1.1980 14°Le43'R 2°Vi55'R 5°Le42'

1.3.1980 11°Le01'R 1°Vi05'R 5°Le45'

31.3.1980 7°Le43'R 28°Le45'R 5°Le09'

30.4.1980 6°Le40' 27°Le02'R 2°Le48'

30.5.1980 8°Le19' 26°Le39' 29°Cn31'

29.6.1980 12°Le08' 27°Le46' 27°Cn14'

29.7.1980 17°Le27' 0°Vi10' 26°Cn36'D

28.8.1980 23°Le37' 3°Vi25' 26°Cn36'

27.9.1980 0°Vi06' 7°Vi06' 25°Cn42'

27.10.1980 6°Vi19' 10°Vi42' 23°Cn06'

26.11.1980 11°Vi40' 13°Vi44' 19°Cn50'

26.12.1980 15°Vi25' 15°Vi41' 17°Cn46'D

25.1.1981 16°Vi47'R 16°Vi09'R 17°Cn17'D

24.2.1981 15°Vi23'R 15°Vi04'R 17°Cn01'

26.3.1981 11°Vi55'R 12°Vi56'R 15°Cn26'

25.4.1981 8°Vi25'R 10°Vi45'R 12°Cn31'

25.5.1981 6°Vi51'R 9°Vi30'R 9°Cn45'D

24.6.1981 7°Vi55' 9°Vi41' 8°Cn22'D

24.7.1981 11°Vi18' 11°Vi19' 8°Cn04'

23.8.1981 16°Vi20' 14°Vi03' 7°Cn47'D

22.9.1981 22°Vi22' 17°Vi29' 6°Cn24'D

22.10.1981 28°Vi50' 21°Vi09' 3°Cn36'

21.11.1981 5°Li10' 24°Vi33' 0°Cn40'

21.12.1981 10°Li45' 27°Vi10' 29°Ge06'

20.1.1982 14°Li50' 28°Vi31' 28°Ge50'D

19.2.1982 16°Li40' 28°Vi19'R 28°Ge20'D

21.3.1982 15°Li46'R 26°Vi44'R 26°Ge19'

20.4.1982 12°Li36'R 24°Vi28'R 23°Ge11'

20.5.1982 8°Li58'R 22°Vi35'R 20°Ge42'

19.6.1982 6°Li56'R 21°Vi53' 19°Ge46'

19.7.1982 7°Li29' 22°Vi38' 19°Ge43'D

18.8.1982 10°Li28' 24°Vi43' 19°Ge08'

17.9.1982 15°Li16' 27°Vi46' 16°Ge54'

17.10.1982 21°Li14' 1°Li19' 13°Ge36'

16.11.1982 27°Li47' 4°Li54' 11°Ge10'

16.12.1982 4°Sc18' 8°Li00' 10°Ge35'

15.1.1983 10°Sc10' 10°Li06' 10°Ge37'

14.2.1983 14°Sc40' 10°Li48'R 9°Ge24'

16.3.1983 17°Sc04' 9°Li59'R 6°Ge23'

15.4.1983 16°Sc47'R 8°Li01'R 3°Ge14'

15.5.1983 14°Sc02'R 5°Li48'R 1°Ge40'

14.6.1983 10°Sc19'R 4°Li20'R 1°Ge27'D

14.7.1983 7°Sc47'R 4°Li13' 1°Ge13'

13.8.1983 7°Sc46' 5°Li32' 29°Ta46'

12.9.1983 10°Sc19' 8°Li01' 26°Ta58'

12.10.1983 14°Sc55' 11°Li18' 24°Ta06'D

11.11.1983 20°Sc51' 14°Li53' 22°Ta35'D

11.12.1983 27°Sc31' 18°Li18' 22°Ta15'

10.1.1984 4°Sg16' 21°Li00' 21°Ta41'

9.2.1984 10°Sg30' 22°Li32' 19°Ta37'

10.3.1984 15°Sg32' 22°Li34'R 16°Ta31'D

 

In short, there were many and difficult aspects involving both Jupiter,

Saturn and Rahu taking place at this time, during a Rahu sub-period. This is

consistent with out expectation that a contraction in economic growth would

have taken place in late 1981 and early 1982, with preceeding and following

quarters showing volatile and low growth.

 

PREDICTION

Looking ahead, we know that sub-period lord is afflicting Saturn. As Jupiter

is 6th lord, it is financial instability that is reducing the growth. As

Jupiter is itself not afflicted, inflation is not the problem at this time.

Moreover, the economic growth is not feeding back to reduce financial

stability further. Saturn's aspect to its own position in late 2008 and

early 2009 may have an effect to reduce growth some, but it ends before the

Saturn period begins in February 2009. It seems that the aspects in the

summer of 2010 point to an economic contraction with also inflation being a

problem, as transit Saturn and transit Jupiter will be in opposition aspect

and both of them also then afflicting natal Jupiter.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor