Sarah Palin Ascendant

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Hi Ron,

 

Very good point about 8th lord Mars in the Virgo ascendant being

indicative of curtailed longevity. Indeed, the combination of 12th

lord in end of 5th house, with 8th lord and 6th lord at beginning of

6th house would be quite difficult, to say the least.

 

Shortly after her candidacy was announced, I tentatively introduced a

6° Sagittarius ascendant (4:19 am) for her. Then information about

her " official " but still yet unconfirmed birth times started coming

out. Have you examined the 4:40 pm time, with 26° Leo rising. The

Virgo ascendant was the other such time.

 

Look forward to hear more about your investigations into the Libra

ascendant.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , RonDay <ronkar wrote:

>

> There have been several birth times given for Sarah Palin. None of

them

> give charts which are totally compelling.

>

> A Virgo ascendant was given initially but this does not make sense.

> 8L Mars is extremely weak and afflicted as well as being combust.

There

> would be a longevity issue and she may not have made it to this age.

>

> When there are many birth times to choose from, I think it is best

to

> start from scratch and find an ascendant from the available

biographical

> data.

> I think the key to finding the correct ascendant here is balancing

the

> weakness of combust Mars.

>

> Moving the ascendant to Libra achieves this.

> Combust Mars is now conjunct yogakaraka Saturn boosting it

immensely.

> Libra ascendant fits with her sporting and competitive abilities

and 10L

> Moon is well placed giving her public prominence.

> I am still working on the degree.

>

>

> Ron

>

[Guest guest]

Dear David,

 

Thanks for pointing out the correct ascendant and giving an interpretation of it. I haven´t had time to look into this chart beyond the initial look at her birthdate with some other rising signs. I have been waiting in the hope her birth certificate would emerge.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

David Hawthorne <davidSAMVA Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:45:06 PMRE: Re: Sarah Palin AscendantDear Thor...I think the 4:40 p.m. time for Sara Palin gives the Cancer, not Leo, risingat 26:13 degrees; using Feb. 11, 1964, Sandpoint, ID; 116W33:08; 48N16:36;TZ: 8; DST 0. This chart can show the prominent rise and conflict over the past two yearsand five months.David HawthorneSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf OfcosmologerThursday, September 18, 2008 3:31 AMSAMVA Subject: Re: Sarah Palin AscendantHi Ron,Very good point about 8th lord Mars in the Virgo ascendant being indicative of curtailed longevity. Indeed, the combination of 12th lord in end of 5th house, with 8th lord and 6th lord at beginning of 6th house would be quite difficult, to say the least.Shortly after her candidacy was announced, I tentatively introduced a 6° Sagittarius ascendant (4:19 am) for her. Then information about her "official" but still yet unconfirmed birth times started coming out. Have you examined the 4:40 pm time, with 26° Leo rising. The Virgo ascendant was the other such time. Look forward to hear more about your investigations into the Libra ascendant.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , RonDay <ronkar wrote:>> There have been several birth times given for Sarah Palin. None of them > give charts which are totally compelling.> > A Virgo ascendant was given initially but this does not make sense.> 8L Mars is extremely weak and afflicted as well as being combust. There > would be a longevity issue and she may not have made it to this age.> > When there are many birth times to choose from, I think it is best to > start from scratch and find an ascendant from the available biographical > data.> I think the key to finding the correct ascendant here is balancing the > weakness of combust Mars.> > Moving the ascendant to Libra achieves this.> Combust Mars is now conjunct yogakaraka Saturn boosting it immensely.> Libra ascendant

fits with her sporting and competitive abilities and 10L > Moon is well placed giving her public prominence.> I am still working on the degree.> > > Ron>---

[Guest guest]

Yes and as for the Mars...Here's the latest opposition news.. Sally>>

>> OHhhhhhhh, your're gonna Love this one!!!!!

>

> The Alaska Women Reject Palin rally was to be held outside on the lawn in

>> front of the Loussac Library in midtown Anchorage. Home made signs were

>> encouraged, and the idea was to make a statement that Sarah Palin does not

>speak

>> for all Alaska women, or men. I had no idea what to expect.

>> >

>> > The rally was organized by a small group of women, talking over coffee.

>It

>> made me wonder what other things have started with small groups of women

>talking

>> over coffee. It's probably an impressive list. These women hatched the

>plan,

>> printed up flyers, posted them around town, and sent notices to local

>media

>> outlets. One of those media outlets was KBYR radio, home of Eddie Burke, a

>> long-time uber-conservative Anchorage talk show host. Turns out that Eddie

>Burke

>> not only announced the rally, but called the people who planned to attend

>the

>> rally " a bunch of socialist baby-killing maggots, " and read the home phone

>> numbers of the organizers aloud over the air, urging listeners to call and

>tell

>> them what they thought. The women, of course, received some nasty,

>harassing and

>> threatening messages.

>> >

>> > I felt a bit apprehensive. I'd been disappointed before by the turnout

>at

>> other rallies. Basically, in Anchorage, if you can get 25 people to show

>up at

>> an event, it's a success. So, I thought to myself, if we can actually get

>100

>> people there that aren't sent by Eddie Burke, we'll be doing good. A real

>> statement will have been made. I confess, I still had a mental image of 15

>> demonstrators surrounded by hundreds of menacing " socialist baby-killing

>maggot "

>> haters.

>> >

>> > It's a good thing I wasn't tailgating when I saw the crowd in front of

>the

>> library or I would have ended up in somebody's trunk. When I got there,

>about 20

>> minutes early, the line of sign wavers stretched the full length of the

>library

>> grounds, along the edge of the road, 6 or 7 people deep! I could hardly

>find a

>> place to park. I nabbed one of the last spots in the library lot, and as I

>got

>> out of the car and started walking, people seemed to join in from every

>> direction, carrying signs.

>> >

>> > Never, have I seen anything like it in my 17 and a half years living in

>> Anchorage. The organizers had someone walk the rally with a counter, and

>they

>> clicked off well over 1400 people (not including the 90

>counter-demonstrators).

>> This was the biggest political rally ever, in the history of the state. I

>was

>> absolutely stunned. The second most amazing thing is how many people

>honked and

>> gave the thumbs up as they drove by. And even those that didn't honk

>looked

>> wide-eyed and awe-struck at the huge crowd that was growing by the minute.

>This

>> just doesn't happen here.

>> >

>> > Then, the infamous Eddie Burke showed up. He tried to talk to the media,

>and

>> was instantly surrounded by a group of 20 people who started shouting

>O-BA-MA so

>> loud he couldn't be heard. Then passing cars started honking in a rhythmic

>> pattern of 3, like the Obama chant, while the crowd cheered, hooted and

>waved

>> their signs high.

>> >

>> > So, if you've been doing the math. Yes. The Alaska Women Reject Palin

>rally

>> was significantly bigger than Palin's rally that got all the national

>media

>> coverage! So take heart, sit back, and enjoy the photo gallery. Feel free

>to

>> spread the pictures around to anyone who needs to know that Sarah Palin

>most

>> definitely does not speak for all Alaskans. The citizens of Alaska, who

>know her

>> best, have things to say.

>> >

>> > A bunch of pictures of that rally:

>> >

>> > =

>> > =

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image.jpg210On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:45 PM, David Hawthorne <david wrote:

Dear Thor...

 

I think the 4:40 p.m. time for Sara Palin gives the Cancer, not Leo, rising

at 26:13 degrees; using Feb. 11, 1964, Sandpoint, ID; 116W33:08; 48N16:36;

TZ: 8; DST 0.

 

This chart can show the prominent rise and conflict over the past two years

and five months.

 

David Hawthorne

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

cosmologer

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:31 AM

SAMVA

Re: Sarah Palin Ascendant

 

Hi Ron,

 

Very good point about 8th lord Mars in the Virgo ascendant being

indicative of curtailed longevity. Indeed, the combination of 12th

lord in end of 5th house, with 8th lord and 6th lord at beginning of

6th house would be quite difficult, to say the least.

 

Shortly after her candidacy was announced, I tentatively introduced a

6° Sagittarius ascendant (4:19 am) for her. Then information about

her " official " but still yet unconfirmed birth times started coming

out. Have you examined the 4:40 pm time, with 26° Leo rising. The

Virgo ascendant was the other such time.

 

Look forward to hear more about your investigations into the Libra

ascendant.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , RonDay <ronkar wrote:

>

> There have been several birth times given for Sarah Palin. None of

them

> give charts which are totally compelling.

>

> A Virgo ascendant was given initially but this does not make sense.

> 8L Mars is extremely weak and afflicted as well as being combust.

There

> would be a longevity issue and she may not have made it to this age.

>

> When there are many birth times to choose from, I think it is best

to

> start from scratch and find an ascendant from the available

biographical

> data.

> I think the key to finding the correct ascendant here is balancing

the

> weakness of combust Mars.

>

> Moving the ascendant to Libra achieves this.

> Combust Mars is now conjunct yogakaraka Saturn boosting it

immensely.

> Libra ascendant fits with her sporting and competitive abilities

and 10L

> Moon is well placed giving her public prominence.

> I am still working on the degree.

>

>

> Ron

>

 

 

 

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