The historic nature of the present financial crisis

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Dear friends,

 

In reviewing my predictions for a CRISIS IN THE FALL based on a number of afflicting aspects in the SAMVA USA chart at this time, I realise may have understated the cisis. In fact, there is a historic aspect taking place - the afflicting aspect of transit 6th lord JUPITER to 8th lord SATURN. This aspect involving the prime malefics in the SAMVA USA chart and it is occurring THREE times this year, for the first time in many decades:

 

http://29eagles.com/election/edith/jup_saturn_cycles.html

 

What is making this aspect so harmful during the second time it occurs this years is that the sub-period lord JUPITER is now exactly on the MEP of the 6th house at this time while SATURN is also on the MEP of the 2nd house. This is a major affliction. This aspect is keeping things difficult longer than I expected.

 

Earlier in September 2008, when the financial crisis got a whole lot worse (when Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Lehman Brothers collapsed) these planets were exactly aspecting while under the afflicting aspect of natal RAHU, which also is a major affliction. Along with this is the transit station of RAHU on natal 2nd lord SUN, which has hammered the wealth of the country. Some are calling the present developments a PERFECT STORM which hasn't hit this country in a very long time, even a century.

 

To compound this problem, the rest of the world is now caught up in the conflagration. This is a historic time.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

searchbutton <searchbuttonSAMVA Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 4:01:11 AM Re: Affliction to transit Sun by transit RahuDear My thought is that it was previously posted there would be relief in the U.S financial difficulties due to strong Su as 2H lord separating 1 degree from the Ke/Ra axos starting about 10/12. However, since Ke/Ra is a special/multiple affliction, relief won't really start until after a 2 degrees separation starting about 10/20. Considering that I posted my question before the U.S. market crashed 679 points today, the downward spiral may continued significantly through next week affecting all world markets. Ben SAMVA , "SIHA"

<vkchoudhry wrote:>> > Hello Ben,> > > Yes. Ke/Ra axis is considered a special/multiple > affliction. It has been brought out many a times on the samva group in various messages and this is an important contributor to all present economic difficulties as the Sun rules the house of wealth, status, people and status authority in mundane astrology.> > > Best wishes.> > > > - > searchbutton > SAMVA > Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:08 PM> Re: Affliction to transit Sun by transit Rahu> > > Dear > > Please inform if the Ke/Ra axis

is considered a special/multiple > affliction. > > The U.S. chart shows a strong natal Su currently under > Ke/Ra affliction. > > > Ben> > "In the case of strong natal positions, the transit results of normal > afflictions start generating when the aspect/conjunction of the > functional malefic planet is applying and has a longitudinal > difference of one degree and remain effective up to the period when > the aspect/conjunction is separating with the same longitudinal > difference, while the transit results of special/multiple afflictions > start generating when the aspect/conjunction of the functional > malefic planet(s) is applying and has a longitudinal difference of > two degrees and remain effective up to the period when the

> aspect/conjunction is separating with the same longitudinal > difference of two degrees." > > SAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@> wrote:> >> > Hello dear list members,> > > > For the next about 54 hours the Sun will be under the acute transit > > affliction of Rahu. In general it brings sudden shocking news, > setbacks to > > highly placed persons, political bosses and difficulties to heart > patients.> > > > Besides, the above for various asdts. it brings additional > difficulties as > > under;> > > > For Aries born it brings problems in job and causes concerns on the

> health > > of children.> > For Taurus born it causes setbacks to assets, parents, position and > setbacks > > to health.> > For Gemini born people it may bring setback in social relationships.> > For Cancer born people it brings problems of status, wealth and > > relationships.> > For Leo born people it brings health and status concerns.> > For Virgo born people it disturbs peace and brings in more expenses.> > For Libra born people it disturbs income, brings setbacks to > friends and > > elder siblings.> > For Scorpio born people it causes professional problems.> > For Sagittarius born people it causes concerns for parents and > fortune.> > For Capricorn born people it causes

concerns for father/husband.> > For Aquarius born people it brings problems to spouse.> > For Pisces born people it causes health and financial concerns.> > > > So, take care with due patience and by avoiding unnecessary outings.> > > > Best wishes.> > > > > >>---

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Dear list members,

 

One more factor in the SAMVA USA chart that has not been mentioned

explicitly is the fact that the transit nodes are now in applying

conjunction with the 7th and 1sth house MEPs! This aspect is adding

to the other afflictions, including the other FMs Jupiter and Saturn,

who are also in the MEPs of their respective houses and afflicting

natal planets. Accordingly, the conditions are really difficult.

Indeed, participants on the US and international financial markets

are really anxious this weekend over all the banking troubles around

the world. Many market observers are concerned the financial markets

will have another panic after the markets open for business on

Monday. We will soon see.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> In reviewing my predictions for a CRISIS IN THE FALL based on a

number of afflicting aspects in the SAMVA USA chart at this time, I

realise may have understated the cisis. In fact, there is

a historic aspect taking place - the afflicting aspect of transit 6th

lord JUPITER to 8th lord SATURN. This aspect involving the prime

malefics in the SAMVA USA chart and it is occurring THREE times this

year, for the first time in many decades:

>

> http://29eagles.com/election/edith/jup_saturn_cycles.html

>

> What is making this aspect so harmful during the second time it

occurs this years is that the sub-period lord JUPITER is now exactly

on the MEP of the 6th house at this time while SATURN is also on the

MEP of the 2nd house. This is a major affliction. This aspect is

keeping things difficult longer than I expected.

>

> Earlier in September 2008, when the financial crisis got a whole

lot worse (when Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Lehman Brothers

collapsed) these planets were exactly aspecting while under the

afflicting aspect of natal RAHU, which also is a major affliction.

Along with this is the transit station of RAHU on natal 2nd lord SUN,

which has hammered the wealth of the country. Some are calling the

present developments a PERFECT STORM which hasn't hit this country

in a very long time, even a century.

>

> To compound this problem, the rest of the world is now caught up in

the conflagration. This is a historic time.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

> searchbutton <searchbutton

> SAMVA

> Friday, October 10, 2008 4:01:11 AM

> Re: Affliction to transit Sun by transit Rahu

>

> Dear

>

> My thought is that it was previously posted there would be relief

in

> the U.S financial difficulties due to strong Su as 2H lord

separating

> 1 degree from the Ke/Ra axos starting about 10/12.  However, since

> Ke/Ra is a special/multiple affliction, relief won't really start

> until after a 2 degrees separation starting about 10/20. 

Considering

> that I posted my question before the U.S. market crashed 679 points

> today, the downward spiral may continued significantly through next

> week affecting all world markets. 

>

> Ben

>

>

> SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hello Ben,

> > 

> >

> > Yes.  Ke/Ra axis is considered a special/multiple

> > affliction. It has been brought out many a times on the samva

group

> in various messages and this is an important contributor to all

> present economic difficulties as the Sun rules the house of wealth,

> status, people and status authority in mundane astrology.

> >

> > 

> > Best wishes.

> > 

> >

> >

> >  -

> >  searchbutton

> >  SAMVA

> >  Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:08 PM

> >  Re: Affliction to transit Sun by transit Rahu

> >

> >

> >  Dear

> >

> >  Please inform if the Ke/Ra axis is considered a special/multiple

> >  affliction.

> >

> >  The U.S. chart shows a strong natal Su currently under

> >  Ke/Ra affliction.

> >

> >

> >  Ben

> >

> >  " In the case of strong natal positions, the transit results of

> normal

> >  afflictions start generating when the aspect/conjunction of the

> >  functional malefic planet is applying and has a longitudinal

> >  difference of one degree and remain effective up to the period

> when

> >  the aspect/conjunction is separating with the same longitudinal

> >  difference, while the transit results of special/multiple

> afflictions

> >  start generating when the aspect/conjunction of the functional

> >  malefic planet(s) is applying and has a longitudinal difference

> of

> >  two degrees and remain effective up to the period when the

> >  aspect/conjunction is separating with the same longitudinal

> >  difference of two degrees. "

> >

> >  SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry@> wrote:

> >  >

> >  > Hello dear list members,

> >  >

> >  > For the next about 54 hours the Sun will be under the acute

> transit

> >  > affliction of Rahu. In general it brings sudden shocking news,

> >  setbacks to

> >  > highly placed persons, political bosses and difficulties to

> heart

> >  patients.

> >  >

> >  > Besides, the above for various asdts. it brings additional

> >  difficulties as

> >  > under;

> >  >

> >  > For Aries born it brings problems in job and causes concerns

on

> the

> >  health

> >  > of children.

> >  > For Taurus born it causes setbacks to assets, parents,

position

> and

> >  setbacks

> >  > to health.

> >  > For Gemini born people it may bring setback in social

> relationships.

> >  > For Cancer born people it brings problems of status, wealth

and

> >  > relationships.

> >  > For Leo born people it brings health and status concerns.

> >  > For Virgo born people it disturbs peace and brings in more

> expenses.

> >  > For Libra born people it disturbs income, brings setbacks to

> >  friends and

> >  > elder siblings.

> >  > For Scorpio born people it causes professional problems.

> >  > For Sagittarius born people it causes concerns for parents and

> >  fortune.

> >  > For Capricorn born people it causes concerns for

father/husband.

> >  > For Aquarius born people it brings problems to spouse.

> >  > For Pisces born people it causes health and financial concerns.

> >  >

> >  > So, take care with due patience and by avoiding unnecessary

> outings.

> >  >

> >  > Best wishes.

> >  >

> >  >

> >  >

> >

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Thor.

 

As always no words for your accuracy , knowledge and offcourse your blog.

 

Please update your blog about financial conditions for coming months.I hope many of your blog readers must be desperatly waiting for your updates.

 

You last update week to week basis was just superb and makes me one of your fan.

 

Regards

 

Rahul.--- On Mon, 13/10/08, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

cosmologer <cosmologer Re: The historic nature of the present financial crisisSAMVA Date: Monday, 13 October, 2008, 2:57 AM

 

 

Dear list members,One more factor in the SAMVA USA chart that has not been mentioned explicitly is the fact that the transit nodes are now in applying conjunction with the 7th and 1sth house MEPs! This aspect is adding to the other afflictions, including the other FMs Jupiter and Saturn, who are also in the MEPs of their respective houses and afflicting natal planets. Accordingly, the conditions are really difficult. Indeed, participants on the US and international financial markets are really anxious this weekend over all the banking troubles around the world. Many market observers are concerned the financial markets will have another panic after the markets open for business on Monday. We will soon see.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@ ...> wrote:>>

Dear friends,> > In reviewing my predictions for a CRISIS IN THE FALL based on a number of afflicting aspects in the SAMVA USA chart at this time, I realise may have understated the cisis. In fact, there is a historic aspect taking place - the afflicting aspect of transit 6th lord JUPITER to 8th lord SATURN. This aspect involving the prime malefics in the SAMVA USA chart and it is occurring THREE times this year, for the first time in many decades:> > http://29eagles. com/election/ edith/jup_ saturn_cycles. html> > What is making this aspect so harmful during the second time it occurs this years is that the sub-period lord JUPITER is now exactly on the MEP of the 6th house at this time while SATURN is also on the MEP of the 2nd

house. This is a major affliction. This aspect is keeping things difficult longer than I expected.> > Earlier in September 2008, when the financial crisis got a whole lot worse (when Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Lehman Brothers collapsed) these planets were exactly aspecting while under the afflicting aspect of natal RAHU, which also is a major affliction. Along with this is the transit station of RAHU on natal 2nd lord SUN, which has hammered the wealth of the country. Some are calling the present developments a PERFECT STORM which hasn't hit this country in a very long time, even a century.> > To compound this problem, the rest of the world is now caught up in the conflagration. This is a historic time.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > > > searchbutton

<searchbutton@ ...>> SAMVA > Friday, October 10, 2008 4:01:11 AM> Re: Affliction to transit Sun by transit Rahu> > Dear > > My thought is that it was previously posted there would be relief in > the U.S financial difficulties due to strong Su as 2H lord separating > 1 degree from the Ke/Ra axos starting about 10/12. However, since > Ke/Ra is a special/multiple affliction, relief won't really start > until after a 2 degrees separation starting about 10/20. Considering > that I posted my question before the U.S. market crashed 679 points > today, the downward spiral may continued significantly through next > week affecting all world markets. > > Ben > > > ---

In SAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@ > wrote:> >> > > > Hello Ben,> > > > > > Yes. Ke/Ra axis is considered a special/multiple > > affliction. It has been brought out many a times on the samva group > in various messages and this is an important contributor to all > present economic difficulties as the Sun rules the house of wealth, > status, people and status authority in mundane astrology.> > > > > > Best wishes.> > > > > > > > - > > searchbutton > > SAMVA > > Thursday, October 09,

2008 10:08 PM> > Re: Affliction to transit Sun by transit Rahu> > > > > > Dear > > > > Please inform if the Ke/Ra axis is considered a special/multiple > > affliction. > > > > The U.S. chart shows a strong natal Su currently under > > Ke/Ra affliction. > > > > > > Ben> > > > "In the case of strong natal positions, the transit results of > normal > > afflictions start generating when the aspect/conjunction of the > > functional malefic planet is applying and has a longitudinal > > difference of one degree and remain effective up to the period > when > > the aspect/conjunction is separating with the same longitudinal > > difference,

while the transit results of special/multiple > afflictions > > start generating when the aspect/conjunction of the functional > > malefic planet(s) is applying and has a longitudinal difference > of > > two degrees and remain effective up to the period when the > > aspect/conjunction is separating with the same longitudinal > > difference of two degrees." > > > > SAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@ > wrote:> > >> > > Hello dear list members,> > > > > > For the next about 54 hours the Sun will be under the acute > transit > > > affliction of Rahu. In general it brings sudden shocking news, > > setbacks to > >

> highly placed persons, political bosses and difficulties to > heart > > patients.> > > > > > Besides, the above for various asdts. it brings additional > > difficulties as > > > under;> > > > > > For Aries born it brings problems in job and causes concerns on > the > > health > > > of children.> > > For Taurus born it causes setbacks to assets, parents, position > and > > setbacks > > > to health.> > > For Gemini born people it may bring setback in social > relationships.> > > For Cancer born people it brings problems of status, wealth and > > > relationships.> > > For Leo born people it brings health and status

concerns.> > > For Virgo born people it disturbs peace and brings in more > expenses.> > > For Libra born people it disturbs income, brings setbacks to > > friends and > > > elder siblings.> > > For Scorpio born people it causes professional problems.> > > For Sagittarius born people it causes concerns for parents and > > fortune.> > > For Capricorn born people it causes concerns for father/husband.> > > For Aquarius born people it brings problems to spouse.> > > For Pisces born people it causes health and financial concerns.> > > > > > So, take care with due patience and by avoiding unnecessary > outings.> > > > > > Best wishes.> > > > > > V

K Choudhry> > >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rahul,

 

Thank you for the kinds words.

 

Things can get busy. I contribute when there is time and something

useful to add.

 

The effort is to interpret correctly the natal and transit influences

in mundane charts. Importatnly, this is not a paid service but a

learning forum. Its value depends on the willingness and availability

of list members to do such work and share on the list.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , rahul vashisht

<rahulvashisht_astro wrote:

>

> Dear Thor.

>  

> As always no words for your accuracy , knowledge and offcourse your

blog.

>  

> Please update your blog about financial conditions for coming

months.I hope many of your blog readers must be desperatly waiting

for your updates..

>  

> You last update week to week basis was just superb and makes me one

of your fan.

>  

> Regards

>  

> Rahul.

>

> --- On Mon, 13/10/08, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

>

> cosmologer <cosmologer

> Re: The historic nature of the present financial

crisis

> SAMVA

> Monday, 13 October, 2008, 2:57 AM

Dear list members,

>

> One more factor in the SAMVA USA chart that has not been mentioned

> explicitly is the fact that the transit nodes are now in applying

> conjunction with the 7th and 1sth house MEPs! This aspect is adding

> to the other afflictions, including the other FMs Jupiter and

Saturn,

> who are also in the MEPs of their respective houses and afflicting

> natal planets. Accordingly, the conditions are really difficult.

> Indeed, participants on the US and international financial markets

> are really anxious this weekend over all the banking troubles

around

> the world. Many market observers are concerned the financial

markets

> will have another panic after the markets open for business on

> Monday. We will soon see.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > In reviewing my predictions for a CRISIS IN THE FALL based on a

> number of afflicting aspects in the SAMVA USA chart at this time, I

> realise may have understated the cisis. In fact, there is

> a historic aspect taking place - the afflicting aspect of

transit 6th

> lord JUPITER to 8th lord SATURN. This aspect involving the prime

> malefics in the SAMVA USA chart and it is occurring THREE times

this

> year, for the first time in many decades:

> >

> > http://29eagles. com/election/ edith/jup_ saturn_cycles. html

> >

> > What is making this aspect so harmful during the second time it

> occurs this years is that the sub-period lord JUPITER is now

exactly

> on the MEP of the 6th house at this time while SATURN is also on

the

> MEP of the 2nd house. This is a major affliction. This aspect is

> keeping things difficult longer than I expected.

> >

> > Earlier in September 2008, when the financial crisis got a whole

> lot worse (when Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Lehman Brothers

> collapsed) these planets were exactly aspecting  while under the

> afflicting aspect of natal RAHU, which also is a major affliction.

> Along with this is the transit station of RAHU on natal 2nd

lord SUN,

> which has hammered the wealth of the country. Some are calling

the

> present developments a PERFECT STORM which hasn't hit this country

> in a very long time, even a century.

> >

> > To compound this problem, the rest of the world is now caught up

in

> the conflagration. This is a historic time.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

> >

> > searchbutton <searchbutton@ ...>

> > SAMVA

> > Friday, October 10, 2008 4:01:11 AM

> > Re: Affliction to transit Sun by transit Rahu

> >

> > Dear

> >

> > My thought is that it was previously posted there would be relief

> in

> > the U.S financial difficulties due to strong Su as 2H lord

> separating

> > 1 degree from the Ke/Ra axos starting about 10/12.  However,

since

> > Ke/Ra is a special/multiple affliction, relief won't really start

> > until after a 2 degrees separation starting about 10/20. 

> Considering

> > that I posted my question before the U.S. market crashed 679

points

> > today, the downward spiral may continued significantly through

next

> > week affecting all world markets. 

> >

> > Ben

> >

> >

> > SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry@ > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello Ben,

> > > 

> > >

> > > Yes.  Ke/Ra axis is considered a special/multiple

> > > affliction. It has been brought out many a times on the samva

> group

> > in various messages and this is an important contributor to all

> > present economic difficulties as the Sun rules the house of

wealth,

> > status, people and status authority in mundane astrology.

> > >

> > > 

> > > Best wishes.

> > > 

> > >

> > >

> > >  -

> > >  searchbutton

> > >  SAMVA

> > >  Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:08 PM

> > >  Re: Affliction to transit Sun by transit Rahu

> > >

> > >

> > >  Dear

> > >

> > >  Please inform if the Ke/Ra axis is considered a

special/multiple

> > >  affliction.

> > >

> > >  The U.S. chart shows a strong natal Su currently under

> > >  Ke/Ra affliction.

> > >

> > >

> > >  Ben

> > >

> > >  " In the case of strong natal positions, the transit results

of

> > normal

> > >  afflictions start generating when the aspect/conjunction of

the

> > >  functional malefic planet is applying and has a longitudinal

> > >  difference of one degree and remain effective up to the

period

> > when

> > >  the aspect/conjunction is separating with the same

longitudinal

> > >  difference, while the transit results of special/multiple

> > afflictions

> > >  start generating when the aspect/conjunction of the

functional

> > >  malefic planet(s) is applying and has a longitudinal

difference

> > of

> > >  two degrees and remain effective up to the period when the

> > >  aspect/conjunction is separating with the same longitudinal

> > >  difference of two degrees. "

> > >

> > >  SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry@ > wrote:

> > >  >

> > >  > Hello dear list members,

> > >  >

> > >  > For the next about 54 hours the Sun will be under the acute

> > transit

> > >  > affliction of Rahu. In general it brings sudden shocking

news,

> > >  setbacks to

> > >  > highly placed persons, political bosses and difficulties to

> > heart

> > >  patients.

> > >  >

> > >  > Besides, the above for various asdts. it brings additional

> > >  difficulties as

> > >  > under;

> > >  >

> > >  > For Aries born it brings problems in job and causes

concerns

> on

> > the

> > >  health

> > >  > of children.

> > >  > For Taurus born it causes setbacks to assets, parents,

> position

> > and

> > >  setbacks

> > >  > to health.

> > >  > For Gemini born people it may bring setback in social

> > relationships.

> > >  > For Cancer born people it brings problems of status, wealth

> and

> > >  > relationships.

> > >  > For Leo born people it brings health and status concerns.

> > >  > For Virgo born people it disturbs peace and brings in more

> > expenses.

> > >  > For Libra born people it disturbs income, brings setbacks

to

> > >  friends and

> > >  > elder siblings.

> > >  > For Scorpio born people it causes professional problems.

> > >  > For Sagittarius born people it causes concerns for parents

and

> > >  fortune.

> > >  > For Capricorn born people it causes concerns for

> father/husband.

> > >  > For Aquarius born people it brings problems to spouse.

> > >  > For Pisces born people it causes health and financial

concerns.

> > >  >

> > >  > So, take care with due patience and by avoiding unnecessary

> > outings.

> > >  >

> > >  > Best wishes.

> > >  >

> > >  >

> > >  >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> >