SAMVA USA chart and the decline in share prices

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

The markets have resumed their downward movement:

 

Oct 22, 2008

US Market Closed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NASDAQ 1615.75 -80.93 -4.77%

DJIA 8519.21 -514.45 -5.69%

S & P 896.78 -58.27 -6.1%

 

These daily changes are really quite large in the historical context, even if they have started to look usual inthe first half of October 2008. Let us also be mindful that October can be the scaries month of the year for US stock investors - and perhaps this is weighing on the market due to the historic shock to the US banking system so far this year. Many would be worried it is all going to turn out in the worst way.

 

Looking at the transits we can note that the conjunction of transit Rahu and natal 2nd lord Sun in late Capricorn/H7 is now separating speedily (orb over 3°). However, transit Sun remains weak in transit even if well placed and unafflicted in Libra/H4. At the same time, transit Jupiter at 21° Sagittarius/H6 is in applying conjunction with natal 4th lord Venus at 24° Sagittarius/H6 (orb 3°) and applying aspect to transit 8th lord Saturn at 23° Leo/H2 (orb just over 2°). Today, 10th lord Mars has been conjunct natal Ketu at 18° Libra/H4 (orb 0°). For those who have been following the SAMVA USA chart during the course of 2008, you will recall the dual influence of the bad placement of transit Mars in the 12th house, which harmed investor confidence, while transit Jupiter was conjunct natal Venus, which increased worries, was felt in the first quarter of the year. Well, similar vibes could have been

felt in recent days.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

[Guest guest]

Dear Thor,

 

The one degree aspect of the axis on the MEP on all odd signs, from next

week until mid November will keep the US stock market on the back leg.

 

Regarding the general financial health of the USA:

 

- From Nov 11th until the end of the month of Nov, Jupiter will afflict

Saturn within one degree. The working class can really feel the pinch then.

 

- With Jupiter moving into debilitation on Dec 9, the financial solvency of

the nation persists during its long stay there.

 

- The next transit of Juipter is through the dreaded 8H ruled by Saturn. The

Saturn subperiod will be running. Natally, Saturn aspects the natal Sun and

widely aspects the 5, 7, 11, and 2H's. All natal planets are connected with

these houses. At this time Saturn will be in the 3H (goes there on Sep 9

2009). LO3 Me, is frequently weak, and this will transfer to Jupiter, high

and low tides.

 

In summary, the financial health of the nation will remain shaky until

Jupiter moves into the 9H. On 2 May 2010, Jupiter enters the 9H,

retrogrades, moves into the 8H for one month in November 2010, and then into

the 9H until May 2011.

 

The close aspect of Jupiter to the Moon in this chart indicates that

speculative involvement of banks are a potentially major problem to the

nation as a whole, especially in the Jupiter sub-periods.

 

It's better for investors to stay away from bank shares for a while.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Cosmologer " <cosmologer

<samva >

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:11 PM

SAMVA USA chart and the decline in share prices

 

 

Dear friends,

 

The markets have resumed their downward movement:

 

Oct 22, 2008

US Market Closed

NASDAQ 1615.75 -80.93 -4.77%

DJIA 8519.21 -514.45 -5.69%

S & P 896.78 -58.27 -6.1%

 

These daily changes are really quite large in the historical context, even

if they have started to look usual inthe first half of October 2008. Let us

also be mindful that October can be the scaries month of the year for US

stock investors - and perhaps this is weighing on the market due to the

historic shock to the US banking system so far this year. Many would be

worried it is all going to turn out in the worst way.

 

Looking at the transits we can note that the conjunction of transit Rahu and

natal 2nd lord Sun in late Capricorn/H7 is now separating speedily (orb over

3°). However, transit Sun remains weak in transit even if well placed and

unafflicted in Libra/H4. At the same time, transit Jupiter at 21°

Sagittarius/H6 is in applying conjunction with natal 4th lord Venus at 24°

Sagittarius/H6 (orb 3°) and applying aspect to transit 8th lord Saturn at

23° Leo/H2 (orb just over 2°). Today, 10th lord Mars has been conjunct natal

Ketu at 18° Libra/H4 (orb 0°). For those who have been following the SAMVA

USA chart during the course of 2008, you will recall the dual influence of

the bad placement of transit Mars in the 12th house, which harmed investor

confidence, while transit Jupiter was conjunct natal Venus, which increased

worries, was felt in the first quarter of the year. Well, similar vibes

could have been felt in recent days.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

[Guest guest]

Dear Vyas,

 

Indeed, the passage of the FMs, notably Rahu and Ketu, over the MEPs of the SAMVA USA chart when stationary has been a source of difficulty in the past. Fortunately, the nodes are moving at normal speed at this time and Jupiter and Saturn are now moving away from the MEPs. The nodes become conjunct the MEPs of 7th and 1st houses on November 2, 2008, shortly before the election.

 

At election time, transit 6th lord JUPITER will also be close to exactly conjuncting the natal 4th lord VENUS (exact on November 7). This might be a difficult week for many in the USA.

 

Later in November, when transit 9th lord SATURN becomes exactly afflicted by transit JUPITER on November 21, and a week later by natal Saturn, there could be violence and labour unrest in the USA. Such transits would be stressful for most, but especially ordinary working people. The strong natal Sun in the chart, the dispositor of Saturn in Leo, would offer some relief, especially after the new President takes office, which could result in a new understanding or measures being taken.

 

It is good that during the upcoming sub-period of 8th lord SATURN, it will be transiting good houses, albeit the volatile strength of Mercury in transit will be transmitted to Saturn as it passes through Virgo/H3. That said, the indications of Saturn and the 8th house would be highlighted throughout. By comparison, transit 6th lord JUPITER in Sagittarius/H6 has kept its indications strong for the latter part of its sub-period, including financial stability. Jupiter will become weak due to debilitation in the final months of its sub-period when it enters Capricorn/H7. However, while there it will become well placed again - so some respite from that. A brief conjunction with a stationary Rahu at 15° Capricorn in early 2009, peaking on February 13, is something to watch, as Jupiter's indications would be more vulnerable at that time and its period will be operating until February 17th.

 

As was the case during the passage of Saturn through Leo/H2, there will be challenging transits involving its passage through Virgo, notably in mid 2010, when there is

 

- an opposition aspect between transit 8th lord Saturn and transit 6th lord Jupiter in Pisces/H9

- an aspect from transit Saturn to natal Jupiter in Scoprio/H5

 

The energy of conflict colliding with the energy of obstacles and endings. The positive feature of such an aspect is that both planets involved are in good houses.

 

However, around that time, there will be another aspect involving the natal and transit nodes which could be more difficult. It is the mutal aspect between transit Rahu at 18° Sagittuarius/H6 and natal Rahu at 17° 47' in Aries/H10 and transit Ketu at 18° Gemini/H12 and natal Ketu at Libra/H4. Historically, such aspects invoving the nodes have resulted in some setbacks.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Vyas Munidas <muni>SAMVA Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:59:33 PMRe: SAMVA USA chart and the decline in share pricesDear Thor,The one degree aspect of the axis on the MEP on all odd signs, from next week until mid November will keep the US stock market on the back leg.Regarding the general financial health of the USA:- From Nov 11th until the end of the month of Nov, Jupiter will afflict Saturn within one degree. The working class can really feel the pinch then.- With Jupiter moving into debilitation on Dec 9, the financial solvency of the nation persists during its long stay there.- The next transit of Juipter is through the dreaded 8H ruled by Saturn. The Saturn subperiod will be running. Natally, Saturn aspects

the natal Sun and widely aspects the 5, 7, 11, and 2H's. All natal planets are connected with these houses. At this time Saturn will be in the 3H (goes there on Sep 9 2009). LO3 Me, is frequently weak, and this will transfer to Jupiter, high and low tides.In summary, the financial health of the nation will remain shaky until Jupiter moves into the 9H. On 2 May 2010, Jupiter enters the 9H, retrogrades, moves into the 8H for one month in November 2010, and then into the 9H until May 2011.The close aspect of Jupiter to the Moon in this chart indicates that speculative involvement of banks are a potentially major problem to the nation as a whole, especially in the Jupiter sub-periods.It's better for investors to stay away from bank shares for a while.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Cosmologer" <cosmologer<samva >Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:11 PM SAMVA USA chart and the decline in share pricesDear friends,The markets have resumed their downward movement:Oct 22, 2008US Market Closed NASDAQ 1615.75 -80.93 -4.77%DJIA 8519.21 -514.45 -5.69%S & P 896.78 -58.27 -6.1%These daily changes are really quite large in the historical context, even if they have started to look usual inthe first half of October 2008. Let us also be mindful that October can be the scaries month of the year for US stock investors - and perhaps this is weighing on the market due to the historic shock to the US banking system so far this year. Many would be

worried it is all going to turn out in the worst way.Looking at the transits we can note that the conjunction of transit Rahu and natal 2nd lord Sun in late Capricorn/H7 is now separating speedily (orb over 3°). However, transit Sun remains weak in transit even if well placed and unafflicted in Libra/H4. At the same time, transit Jupiter at 21° Sagittarius/H6 is in applying conjunction with natal 4th lord Venus at 24° Sagittarius/H6 (orb 3°) and applying aspect to transit 8th lord Saturn at 23° Leo/H2 (orb just over 2°). Today, 10th lord Mars has been conjunct natal Ketu at 18° Libra/H4 (orb 0°). For those who have been following the SAMVA USA chart during the course of 2008, you will recall the dual influence of the bad placement of transit Mars in the 12th house, which harmed investor confidence, while transit Jupiter was conjunct natal Venus, which increased worries, was felt in the

first quarter of the year. Well, similar vibes could have been felt in recent days.Best wishes,Thor---