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(Gabriella)

Having the Asc. in Cap. puts Saturn in the 7th, as if Israel would be

his own enemy. On the Other hand, house 7, the open enemies is in

Cancer.. Can we consider the Arabs who were and are fighting against

Israel as a soft cancer? The Moon??

The 5th house is the army, right? Would Venus signify it?

It's difficult for me to see this chart.. So I'll just go on with my

hour. :) However, looking as SA charts is very interesting.

 

Hi Gabriella,

 

I made the chart for 16:00 that I used before for Israel, and one for 16:37 that

you are using. I found both charts in sidereal zodiac are interesting, as both

have ruler of Ascendant in 9th.

 

16:00 Virgo Ascendant, and Mercury in 9th in Taurus

16:37 Libra Ascendant, and Venus in 9th in Gemini

 

Mercury and Venus of course are in mutual reception in both charts so it gives

great dignity to the Ascendant ruler in both charts.

 

16:00 Venus opposes Jupiter ruler of 3rd of neighborhood and communication

16:37 Mercury squares Mars ruler of 7th of open enemies or associates

 

Rulers of 12th are also for both charts positioned in 8th.

 

16:00 Leo 12th, and Sun in 8th square to Saturn

16:37 Virgo 12th, and Mercury in 8th square to Mars

 

So both charts in sidereal works as well as with tropical zodiac, and gives

great information on Israel.

 

Love,

Athena

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Hello Athena,

 

Welcome to SAMVA.

 

To identify functional nature of planets in SA, it is necessary to know the planetary rulerships as per the classification of signs into either Moolatrikona (MT) or non-MT signs in Vedic astrology.

 

The seven MT signs are:

Aries - ruled by Mars

Cancer - ruled by Moon

Leo - ruled by Sun

Virgo - ruled by Mercury

Libra - ruled by Venus

Sagittarius - ruled by Jupiter

Aquarius - ruled by Saturn

 

The other five are non-MT signs:

Taurus (owned by Venus)Gemini (owned by Mercury)

Scorpio (owned by Mars)

Capricorn (owned by Saturn)

Pisces (owned by Jupiter)

 

Importantly, depending on the ascending sign, each planet rules a given house, in the equal house Vedic system.

 

For Aries asceding you get

1st house Aries - Mars as 1st lord

2nd house Taurus

3rd house Gemini

4th house Cancer - Moon as 4th lord

5th house Leo - Sun as 5th lord

6th house Virgo - Mercury as 6th lord

7th house Libra - Venus as 7th lord

8th house Scorpio

9th house Sagittarius - Jupiter as 9th lord

10th house Capricorn

11th house Aquarius - Saturn as 11th lord

12th house Pisces

 

Out of the 12 houses there are three that are considered malefic. The dusthana houses are the 6th house of conflict, 8th of obstacles and endings and 12th house of losses. Whenever a MT sign falls into one of these houses its lord becomes a FUNCTIONAL MALEFIC planet carrying with it the nature of the house it rules. In the case of Aries, it is Mercury that becomes a FM planet, brining conflict to anything it touches through aspect or placement. In addition Rahu and Ketu become malefic planets for all ascendants.

 

The same logic holds for the other ascendants. E.g. for Capricorn ascendant, Sun becomes 8th lord and Jupiter the 12th lord.

 

To read about each ascendant - you can try your own for starters:

www.yournetastrologer.com

click on the sub-heading 'ascending signs'. Have fun.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

Athena <Athena_2SAMVA Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:16:43 PM Blog: Birth of Israel(Gabriella)Having the Asc. in Cap. puts Saturn in the 7th, as if Israel would be his own enemy. On the Other hand, house 7, the open enemies is in Cancer.. Can we consider the Arabs who were and are fighting against Israel as a soft cancer? The Moon??The 5th house is the army, right? Would Venus signify it?It's difficult for me to see this chart.. So I'll just go on with my hour. :) However, looking as SA charts is very interesting. Hi Gabriella,I made the chart for 16:00 that I used before for Israel, and one for 16:37 that you are using. I found both

charts in sidereal zodiac are interesting, as both have ruler of Ascendant in 9th.16:00 Virgo Ascendant, and Mercury in 9th in Taurus16:37 Libra Ascendant, and Venus in 9th in GeminiMercury and Venus of course are in mutual reception in both charts so it gives great dignity to the Ascendant ruler in both charts.16:00 Venus opposes Jupiter ruler of 3rd of neighborhood and communication16:37 Mercury squares Mars ruler of 7th of open enemies or associatesRulers of 12th are also for both charts positioned in 8th.16:00 Leo 12th, and Sun in 8th square to Saturn16:37 Virgo 12th, and Mercury in 8th square to MarsSo both charts in sidereal works as well as with tropical zodiac, and gives great information on Israel.Love,Athena---

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