Correct predictions based on Israel's Capricorn rising chart

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Dear friends,

 

Based on the 21° Capricorn rising chart for Israel

 

- first, it was correctly predicted that more violence was likely around January 5 when transit Sun became exactly afflicted by natal Rahu. This prediction was realised when Israel's military invaded Gaza on January 3:

 

>> To review the logic of the prediction (sidereal placements):> The entry of the Israel Army into Gaza took place when transit> Sun at 19° 32' Sagittarius and 12th house had moved into the trinal> aspect of natal Rahu at 20° 53' Aries and 4th house - slightly over> 1° orb. The aspect becomes exact at 00:23 am (Israel time) on> January 5th.- second, it was correctly predicted that tensions would die down from middle of January. Today, January 17, Israel declared a unilateral cease-fire with transit Sun at 3° 48' Capricorn and 1st house.

 

Israel declares ceasefire in Gaza

21:56 GMT, Saturday, 17 January 2009

Israel is to halt its three-week military offensive against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said. He said Israel had achieved its aims and the unilateral ceasefire would start at 0200 (2400 GMT).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7835794.stm

 

Prediction in message #102142 on Political Astrology list on Mon Jan 5, 2009 7:53 am

"As Jupiter moves out of its afflicting aspect to natal Sun today andas transit Sun is also seperating from the adverse aspect from natalRahu, and moves out of the 12th house on January 15, things arelikely on an improving trend for some weeks. That said, the nodalstation continuing on top of the natal 7th lord Moon, will keepconsiderable pressure on Israels' foreign policy and domestic peacethrough February. Significant problems are likely in late January,however, due to the conjunction of Sun with the stationary nodal axisfollowing an eclipse on the natal Moon."

 

 

- thirdly, some significant event is expected later this month.

Prediction

"The nodal station harming the Moon is expected to keep things tense for some months and has already resulted in a setback for peace in the country and placed a strain on the country's foreign policy.

Around January 29, when the sub-period lord Sun becomes conjunct stationary Rahu in transit, thus adding to the affilction of natal Moon, there could be a significant event. When Jupiter becomes conjunct Rahu, some losses could materialise."

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2008/12/birth-of-israel.html

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologersamva Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:34:50 PM Blog: Birth of Israel

 

Sunday, December 28, 2008

Birth of Israel

 

 

There is an ongoing debate among astrologers about the birth of the State of Israel. Some view the founding moment to have been when Israel unilaterally declared independence while others have focused on a process set out by the United Nations for the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine culminating in the end of the British Mandate for Palestine.

 

To read more:

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

Hello my dear Thor,

 

Congrats for the predictions and getting confidence in the Capricorn rising chart of Israel.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

-

Cosmologer

SAMVA

Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:58 AM

Correct predictions based on Israel's Capricorn rising chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

Based on the 21° Capricorn rising chart for Israel

 

- first, it was correctly predicted that more violence was likely around January 5 when transit Sun became exactly afflicted by natal Rahu. This prediction was realised when Israel's military invaded Gaza on January 3:

 

>> To review the logic of the prediction (sidereal placements):> The entry of the Israel Army into Gaza took place when transit> Sun at 19° 32' Sagittarius and 12th house had moved into the trinal> aspect of natal Rahu at 20° 53' Aries and 4th house - slightly over> 1° orb. The aspect becomes exact at 00:23 am (Israel time) on> January 5th.- second, it was correctly predicted that tensions would die down from middle of January. Today, January 17, Israel declared a unilateral cease-fire with transit Sun at 3° 48' Capricorn and 1st house.

 

Israel declares ceasefire in Gaza

21:56 GMT, Saturday, 17 January 2009

Israel is to halt its three-week military offensive against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said. He said Israel had achieved its aims and the unilateral ceasefire would start at 0200 (2400 GMT).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7835794.stm

 

Prediction in message #102142 on Political Astrology list on Mon Jan 5, 2009 7:53 am

"As Jupiter moves out of its afflicting aspect to natal Sun today andas transit Sun is also seperating from the adverse aspect from natalRahu, and moves out of the 12th house on January 15, things arelikely on an improving trend for some weeks. That said, the nodalstation continuing on top of the natal 7th lord Moon, will keepconsiderable pressure on Israels' foreign policy and domestic peacethrough February. Significant problems are likely in late January,however, due to the conjunction of Sun with the stationary nodal axisfollowing an eclipse on the natal Moon."

 

 

- thirdly, some significant event is expected later this month.

 

Prediction

"The nodal station harming the Moon is expected to keep things tense for some months and has already resulted in a setback for peace in the country and placed a strain on the country's foreign policy.

Around January 29, when the sub-period lord Sun becomes conjunct stationary Rahu in transit, thus adding to the affilction of natal Moon, there could be a significant event. When Jupiter becomes conjunct Rahu, some losses could materialise."

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2008/12/birth-of-israel.html

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:34:50 PM Blog: Birth of Israel

 

Sunday, December 28, 2008

Birth of Israel

 

 

There is an ongoing debate among astrologers about the birth of the State of Israel. Some view the founding moment to have been when Israel unilaterally declared independence while others have focused on a process set out by the United Nations for the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine culminating in the end of the British Mandate for Palestine.

 

To read more:

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

Dear Thor, and all.

 

I published an article in my website about the Gaza operation,

Sorry, it's not SA maps, but you mentioned that

any maps or explanations are welcome, so I thought

I should share it with you.

 

I use 14.5.1948/ 16:38 hrs/ 01 Sco Asc./

for Israel/

Vertex on 20.14 Gem /

Hamas foundation : 14 Dec 1987/ 06:15 am " 16

Sag Asc./ Vertex- an important point in my analysis at 3.19 Leo/

 

1) 3.1.09 – ground forces entrance to Gaza with Moon in Aries,

with a trine to Natal Moon.

2) 7/1/09 – With Moon in Gem cease –fire

talks start. $ planets with Chiron in Aquarius- same place as Pres. To be Obama

Asc. Is- US would play a big role – ( as it turned out to be true on the

17/1, when Condi & TZipi signed an agreement )

3) 11/1/09 – Hamas asks for cease –fire,

Egypt

talks begin. – Saturn turn retro, trines NJupiter of Hamas. Saturn will

reach 15 Virgo, in May, same position where it was during Begin- Saadat peace

talks in 1978. Mercury also turns retro on this day. Will reach 21.45 Cap. Till

2.2.09, when Transiting Uranus, Saturn and Chiron will also be on 20-22 deg

Cap. I just realized – from your mail, that the SA chart you analyzed has

Israel's

Asc on 21 Cap !!! What a position. I fear 2.2.09. I searched my database, and

found 95 maps with planets in any sign between 20-22 Cap, including Egypt, Syria,

Afganistan, Iran..

4) House 7 – of open enemies – in tropical

charts in the Hamas map is in Gem, and it signifies the IDF. So Mercury turning

Retro now, and direct on 2.2. will be an important date.

5) Hamas' Vertex was triggered by the Moon on each

and every date of this war. 27/12 – opposition- it all started. 3/1/

ground forces entered = 150 deg, 12/1 conjunction- Egypt

talks, 18/1 – cease fire by Israel, meaning we stop shooting,

if they do…( which they didn't till this moment I am writing these lines.

21/1 Moon will be 120* to Vertex in Sag. ??? 23/1 Moon will return

to it's place when it all started..

BUT meanwhile tr.Uranus

is reaching a square to nSun in the Hamas chart.

 

 

Best,

Gabriella Mittelman

www.astroworld.co.il

http://www.astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI (eng.page)

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Gaby,

 

Thank you for the interest to share your work on SAMVA.

 

Please note that when SAMVA list was founded in November 28, 2000 it was dedicated to the study of SA in the mundane sphere, with a heavy reliance on predictions to test different charts. To reduce confusion, the list policy is to focus the astrology discussion on only SA, and this includes presenting the information in the sidereal zodiac. The overriding focus of the work on SAMVA is to identify authentic birth charts which offer a basis for repeat accurate predictions. As such, when a chart is found to fail as a basis of predictions it must be examined carefully, in terms of the historical basis or time of day. Alternatively, the interpretation of the astrologer can be examined. We have had consistent good results with the SA methods when there is certainty about the birth charts, such as in the case of individuals where there is a reliable source for the birth time. There have been some refinements in the SA techniques,

but in this has the final say. Over time, we have developed a good approach to rectifying authentic charts, with a focus on identifying the

 

1. HISTORICAL MERIT. Does the historical event suggest the birth of the collective entity?

2 NATAL POTENTIAL. Can the nature of the unique history be exaplained on the basis of placements in the chart.

3. SIGNIFICANT EVENTS. Would this event have been predicted with the chart based on transit/period analysis

4. ACCURATE PREDICTIONS. Does the chart offer a basis for making repeat accurate predictions?

 

The application of the above criteria based on the Systems' Approach has resulted in a number of authentic charts being identified on SAMVA. The four criteria are quite demanding to fulfull. The acceptance then becomes a matter of observing the evidence which over time gives confidence in the chart. Similarily, some charts have been rejected for items 1 to 3, but the real test is always criteria 4. To be confident a chart is not correct is easier if it fails in repeat predictions.

 

The specialised approach of SAMVA has worked well, not least as there are many other lists discussing a plethora of techniques. The list is therefore oriented to those interested to learn SA quickly with the guidance or feedback of , myself or others as per the available time.

 

The sharing of related historical material, including possible alternative birth moments, or alerting list members to significant events related to predictions, etc, is appreciated on SAMVA.

 

Finally, if you would like to apply SA to a chart of interest, in order to examine it on the basis of the sidereal zodiac with the aim to analyse it and make predictions against it in order to test its authenticity, you are most welcome to do so. This would also enable you to obtain peer feedback while learning the method.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

Gaby Mittelman <gabymittSAMVA Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:53:03 AMRE: Correct predictions based on Israel's Capricorn rising chart

 

Dear Thor, and all.

 

I published an article in my website about the Gaza operation,

Sorry, it's not SA maps, but you mentioned that any maps or explanations are welcome, so I thought

I should share it with you.

 

I use 14.5.1948/ 16:38 hrs/ 01 Sco Asc./ for Israel / Vertex on 20.14 Gem /

Hamas foundation : 14 Dec 1987/ 06:15 am" 16 Sag Asc./ Vertex- an important point in my analysis at 3.19 Leo/

 

1) 3.1.09 – ground forces entrance to Gaza with Moon in Aries, with a trine to Natal Moon.

2) 7/1/09 – With Moon in Gem cease –fire talks start. $ planets with Chiron in Aquarius- same place as Pres. To be Obama Asc. Is- US would play a big role – ( as it turned out to be true on the 17/1, when Condi & TZipi signed an agreement )

3) 11/1/09 – Hamas asks for cease –fire, Egypt talks begin. – Saturn turn retro, trines NJupiter of Hamas. Saturn will reach 15 Virgo, in May, same position where it was during Begin- Saadat peace talks in 1978. Mercury also turns retro on this day. Will reach 21.45 Cap. Till 2.2.09, when Transiting Uranus, Saturn and Chiron will also be on 20-22 deg Cap. I just realized – from your mail, that the SA chart you analyzed has Israel 's Asc on 21 Cap !!! What a position. I fear 2.2.09. I

searched my database, and found 95 maps with planets in any sign between 20-22 Cap, including Egypt , Syria , Afganistan , Iran ..

4) House 7 – of open enemies – in tropical charts in the Hamas map is in Gem, and it signifies the IDF. So Mercury turning Retro now, and direct on 2.2. will be an important date.

5) Hamas' Vertex was triggered by the Moon on each and every date of this war. 27/12 – opposition- it all started. 3/1/ ground forces entered = 150 deg, 12/1 conjunction- Egypt talks, 18/1 – cease fire by Israel , meaning we stop shooting, if they do…( which they didn't till this moment I am writing these lines. 21/1 Moon will be 120* to Vertex in Sag. ??? 23/1 Moon will return to it's place when it all started..

BUT meanwhile tr.Uranus is reaching a square to nSun in the Hamas chart.

 

 

Best,

Gabriella Mittelman

www.astroworld.co.il

http://www.astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI (eng.page)

 

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

 

Thank you for the kind words.

 

A major test of the chart comes at the end of this month and we can see how it goes.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

SIHA <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:54:28 PMRe: Correct predictions based on Israel's Capricorn rising chart

Hello my dear Thor,

 

Congrats for the predictions and getting confidence in the Capricorn rising chart of Israel.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

-

Cosmologer

SAMVA

Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:58 AM

Correct predictions based on Israel's Capricorn rising chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

Based on the 21° Capricorn rising chart for Israel

 

- first, it was correctly predicted that more violence was likely around January 5 when transit Sun became exactly afflicted by natal Rahu. This prediction was realised when Israel's military invaded Gaza on January 3:

 

>> To review the logic of the prediction (sidereal placements):> The entry of the Israel Army into Gaza took place when transit> Sun at 19° 32' Sagittarius and 12th house had moved into the trinal> aspect of natal Rahu at 20° 53' Aries and 4th house - slightly over> 1° orb. The aspect becomes exact at 00:23 am (Israel time) on> January 5th.- second, it was correctly predicted that tensions would die down from middle of January. Today, January 17, Israel declared a unilateral cease-fire with transit Sun at 3° 48' Capricorn and 1st house.

 

Israel declares ceasefire in Gaza

21:56 GMT, Saturday, 17 January 2009

Israel is to halt its three-week military offensive against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said. He said Israel had achieved its aims and the unilateral ceasefire would start at 0200 (2400 GMT).

http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/middle_ east/7835794. stm

 

Prediction in message #102142 on Political Astrology list on Mon Jan 5, 2009 7:53 am

"As Jupiter moves out of its afflicting aspect to natal Sun today andas transit Sun is also seperating from the adverse aspect from natalRahu, and moves out of the 12th house on January 15, things arelikely on an improving trend for some weeks. That said, the nodalstation continuing on top of the natal 7th lord Moon, will keepconsiderable pressure on Israels' foreign policy and domestic peacethrough February. Significant problems are likely in late January,however, due to the conjunction of Sun with the stationary nodal axisfollowing an eclipse on the natal Moon."

 

 

- thirdly, some significant event is expected later this month.

 

Prediction

"The nodal station harming the Moon is expected to keep things tense for some months and has already resulted in a setback for peace in the country and placed a strain on the country's foreign policy.

Around January 29, when the sub-period lord Sun becomes conjunct stationary Rahu in transit, thus adding to the affilction of natal Moon, there could be a significant event. When Jupiter becomes conjunct Rahu, some losses could materialise."

http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/2008/ 12/birth- of-israel. html

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:34:50 PM Blog: Birth of Israel

 

Sunday, December 28, 2008

Birth of Israel

 

 

There is an ongoing debate among astrologers about the birth of the State of Israel. Some view the founding moment to have been when Israel unilaterally declared independence while others have focused on a process set out by the United Nations for the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine culminating in the end of the British Mandate for Palestine.

 

To read more:

http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/

[Guest guest]

Dear Thor,

 

Look how interesting this is !

I checked the 21 deg of Cap, on 2.2.09 Saturn

& Uranus & Mercury & Chiron will be on this degree, and you said,

Israel's Asc in the SA map is on 21 Cap….. It all fits somehow.

 

Thanks

Gaby

Gabriella Mittelman

www.astroworld.co.il

http://www.astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI (eng.page)

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Gaby,

 

I believe you are referring to transit placements in the Tropical zodiac. whereas I am referring to the rising degree as per the Sidereal zodiac. To avoid the confusion, we only go by the traditional vedic Sideral zodiac on SAMVA. That said, I recently published a blog to highlight the key differences in these approaches which you may find it of interest

 

Wednesday, December 24, 2008

 

ASTROLOGY OF THE VISIBLE

 

In modern times, the most overlooked feature of astrology is the differing reliance of astrologers on phenomena in the sky that are either visible or invisible to the naked human eye.

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2008/12/astrology-of-visible.html

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

Gaby Mittelman <gabymittSAMVA Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:24:40 AMRE: Correct predictions based on Israel's Capricorn rising chart

 

Dear Thor,

 

Look how interesting this is !

I checked the 21 deg of Cap, on 2.2.09 Saturn & Uranus & Mercury & Chiron will be on this degree, and you said,

Israel's Asc in the SA map is on 21 Cap….. It all fits somehow.

 

Thanks

Gaby

Gabriella Mittelman

www.astroworld.co.il

http://www.astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI (eng.page)

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Thor,

Yes you are correct.

 

sorry

 

Gabriella Mittelman

www.astroworld.co.il

http://www.astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI (eng.page)

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Gaby,

 

No problem. Many interesting phenomena come to light when we study the heavens!

Best wishes,

 

Thor

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

With the conjunction of transit 12th lord Jupiter and transit stationary Rahu becoming exact today at 15° 12' Capricorn and 1st house in the national horoscope for Israel, the variegated strains in the national life are clearly visible.

 

In addition to the political uncertainty, Hamas has again, in violation of an informal cease-fire, launched rocket attacks aimed at civilian targets in Israel.

 

Gaza militants fire rockets into Israel

 

 

February 13, 2009 – 36 mins ago

 

 

 

 

Jerusalem (AP) – An agreement between Hamas and Israel to bring quiet to the war-torn Gaza Strip could be announced within days, Hamas officials said, as rocket fired from the territory Friday further strained an informal cease-fire.

 

Two rockets fired by Gaza militants hit near a communal farm and the town of Sderot, the Israeli military said. No one was injured and no armed group took responsibility for the attack.

http://news./s/ap/20090213/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

 

In a blog on Thursday, January 29, 2009, Accurate prediction for Israel, in the section Looking ahead it was stated:

 

"Given the charged and unresolved state of affairs, it will be interesting to follow the developments in coming weeks when transit 12th lord Jupiter will become conjunct the transit nodal axis and oppose the natal Moon. At that time, there could be further losses for Israel in relation to the indications of the Moon."

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2009/01/accurate-prediction-for-israel.html

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

SIHA <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:54:28 PMRe: Correct predictions based on Israel's Capricorn rising chart

Hello my dear Thor,

 

Congrats for the predictions and getting confidence in the Capricorn rising chart of Israel.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

-

Cosmologer

SAMVA

Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:58 AM

Correct predictions based on Israel's Capricorn rising chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

Based on the 21° Capricorn rising chart for Israel

 

- first, it was correctly predicted that more violence was likely around January 5 when transit Sun became exactly afflicted by natal Rahu. This prediction was realised when Israel's military invaded Gaza on January 3:

 

>> To review the logic of the prediction (sidereal placements):> The entry of the Israel Army into Gaza took place when transit> Sun at 19° 32' Sagittarius and 12th house had moved into the trinal> aspect of natal Rahu at 20° 53' Aries and 4th house - slightly over> 1° orb. The aspect becomes exact at 00:23 am (Israel time) on> January 5th.- second, it was correctly predicted that tensions would die down from middle of January. Today, January 17, Israel declared a unilateral cease-fire with transit Sun at 3° 48' Capricorn and 1st house.

 

Israel declares ceasefire in Gaza

21:56 GMT, Saturday, 17 January 2009

Israel is to halt its three-week military offensive against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said. He said Israel had achieved its aims and the unilateral ceasefire would start at 0200 (2400 GMT).

http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/middle_ east/7835794. stm

 

Prediction in message #102142 on Political Astrology list on Mon Jan 5, 2009 7:53 am

"As Jupiter moves out of its afflicting aspect to natal Sun today andas transit Sun is also seperating from the adverse aspect from natalRahu, and moves out of the 12th house on January 15, things arelikely on an improving trend for some weeks. That said, the nodalstation continuing on top of the natal 7th lord Moon, will keepconsiderable pressure on Israels' foreign policy and domestic peacethrough February. Significant problems are likely in late January,however, due to the conjunction of Sun with the stationary nodal axisfollowing an eclipse on the natal Moon."

 

 

- thirdly, some significant event is expected later this month.

 

Prediction

"The nodal station harming the Moon is expected to keep things tense for some months and has already resulted in a setback for peace in the country and placed a strain on the country's foreign policy.

Around January 29, when the sub-period lord Sun becomes conjunct stationary Rahu in transit, thus adding to the affilction of natal Moon, there could be a significant event. When Jupiter becomes conjunct Rahu, some losses could materialise."

http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/2008/ 12/birth- of-israel. html

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:34:50 PM Blog: Birth of Israel

 

Sunday, December 28, 2008

Birth of Israel

 

 

There is an ongoing debate among astrologers about the birth of the State of Israel. Some view the founding moment to have been when Israel unilaterally declared independence while others have focused on a process set out by the United Nations for the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine culminating in the end of the British Mandate for Palestine.

 

To read more:

http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/