Re : La Haine: Banlieu riots in France in late 2005

[Guest guest]

Hello Professor, Thor and list members,I come back with one question about France chart (Referendum chart). On january 24, a huge storm has devasted south-west of France. Damages are very important (3 billions euros) and eleven people died. More than 1 million people lost electricity, and today 250000 people are still waiting to get it back.I can't find anything in 1° Gemini rising chart wich could obviously explain this event. Have you got an insignt ?Best wishes,JolastroDe : cosmologer <cosmologerÀ : SAMVA Envoyé le : Mercredi, 1 Octobre 2008, 14h38mn 50sObjet : Re: La Haine: Banlieu riots in France in late 2005

 

Hello Jolastro,

 

I haven´t had a chance to look at this other chart. Perhaps you or

some other list member is interested to examine it and make a

comparative prediction for the coming weeks and months based on it.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , "zemastro" <zemastro@.. .> wrote:

>

>

> Hello Thor,

>

> You found another good point for referendum chart's credebility.

>

> Certainly did the close aspect of transit Mars (karaka for police)

to

> natal Saturn and transit Venus at the beginning of the riots, play

a

> secondary role, too.

>

> Something is still a bit disturbing me: those events are also

clearly

> indicated in the 1rth Republic Chart (09/22/1792 24h Paris; AS 4°

> Cancer).. Saturn/Sun period was running. On oct.27 transit

debilitated

> Sun is exactly afflicted by natal 6HL Jupiter. Transit Rahu

afflicts

> transit 8HL Saturn from 9H. End of riots is perhaps less obviously

> indicated, but I'm not sure and need your expert advice. What is

your

> opinion about this chart ?

>

> Best wishes,

> Jolastro

>

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > Racial tensions have run high in France - and are linked to the

> placement of 9th lord SATURN being placed in old age in the 6th

house

> of the chart under the aspect of natal KETU in the 10th house. This

> aspect brings separation or isolation to those described by Saturn,

> notably immigrants, those working for low income and also of

foreign

> descent (9th lord influence). The placement in the 6th house

involves

> these people in controversies. The affliction from Ketu means that

the

> situations are likely to boil over, suddenly.

> >

> > "The 2005 French civil unrest began on Thursday, October 27, 2005

> and ended on November 18. The 2005 civil unrest in France of

October

> and November was a series of riots and violent clashes, involving

> mainly the burning of cars and public buildings at night starting

on

> October 27, 2005 in Clichy-sous- Bois. Events spread to poor housing

> projects (the cités HLM) in various parts of France. A state of

> emergency was declared on November 8, 2005. It was extended for

three

> months on 16 November by the Parliament. The biggest riots since

the

> May 1968 unrest were triggered by the accidental death of two

> teenagers, Zyed Benna and Bouna Traoré, in Clichy-sous- Bois, a

> working-class commune in the eastern suburbs of Paris, who were

> allegedly chased by the police and tried to hide from the police in

a

> power substation where they were electrocuted. Many people and

police

> were injured and a lot of property was destroyed."

> >

>

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Timeline_ of_the_2005_ French_civil_ unrest

> >

> > The social situation in the French suburbs, known as banlieues,

is a

> complex topic. At times it has resulted in civil unrest, notably

the

> civil unrest of autumn 2005. The word banlieue, which is Frenchfor

> "suburb," does not necessarily refer to an environment of social

> disenfranchisement. Indeed, there exist many wealthy suburbs, such

as

> Neuilly-sur- Seine(the wealthiest communeof France) and

> Versaillesoutside Paris. Nevertheless, the term banlieues has often

> been used to describe troubled suburban communities- -those with

high

> unemployment, high crime rates, and frequently, a high proportion

of

> residents of foreign origin.

> >

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Social_situation _in_the_French_ suburbs

> >

> > The racial tension is well described in the French film La Haine

> (1995) - the Hatred.

> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ La_Haine

> >

> > Start of riot:

> > - Transit RAHU in the 10th house was closely aspecting transit

> SATURN in the 2nd house. Saturn in the 6th house is natally

afflicted

> by Ketu in the 10th house of the executive. Rahu's aspect in the

10th

> house touched off a misadventure of two youths who were

accidentally

> electrecutued while hiding from the police.

> > - Transit 5th lord VENUS was exactly conjunct natal SATURN and

under

> aspect from natal KETU when the youths died and the riots broke out..

> > - Transit 4th lord MERCURY, the dispositor of natal VENUS, was

also

> placed in infancy in the 6th house.

> >

> > End of riot:

> > - transit VENUS had moved into Sagittarius and 7th house.

> > - transit RAHU to transit SATURN aspect continued, so tensions

> continued high for some time after most of the battles. However,

the

> government granted some visible concessions to the immigrant

> communities to obtain peace.

> > - Transit 7th lord JUPITER was conjunct natal JUPITER in the 5th

> house.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

>