Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Hi Ron, I agree with your assessment of the 14° 55' Virgo rising chart based on midnight time in Melbourne (see below). It seems to explain the event well and also the droughts and brush fires that periodically afflict the country. Some years ago, we discussed the issue of an authentic chart for Australia on SAMVA. During that time, one list member was following a 4° 53' Aries rising chart based on the time of ceremony having taken place in Sidney at 1.25pm (see below). He liked the strong and well placed Mars in the chart, as representing an outdoors lifestyle of Australians and their affinity for and ability in sports. However, the chart does not explain the present events well. Another chart had 23° Pisces rising based on the ceremony having taken place at 12.30 pm in Sidney (see below). This chart also does not appear to explain well the present difficult situation. That said, I echo 's words that repeat accurate predictions help to resolve such issues in a convincing manner. Best wishes, Thor Australia Statehood Jan 1, 1901 12:00 AM -10:00 Melbourne Longitude: 144E58 Latitude: 37S49 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:28 Current Period: KE/SA/SA Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 14:54 Vir Hasta Mo Sun 17:00 Sag +01:01:09 FM P.Shadya Ve Moon 19:57 Ari +14:08:17 WK Bharani Ve Mars 19:06 Leo +00:08:48 FM P.Phalguni Ve Merc 04:34 Sag +01:31:14 CM Mula Ke Jupt 03:23 Sag +00:13:30 WK Mula Ke Ven 17:45 Sco +01:14:27 WK Jyeshtha Me Sat 15:10 Sag +00:07:05 FM P.Shadya Ve Rahu 08:49 Sco +00:01:23 FM Anuradha Sa Ketu 08:49 Tau +00:01:23 FM Krittika Su True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 625 beats Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 5:02 AM Tithi: Shukla Ekadashi Yoga Pt: 10:17 Ar Yogi:Ke AviYogi:Ra Dup Yogi: Ma Dagha Rashis: Sag Pis Sytems Approach Analysis ======================== Sun Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Afflicted House MEP Moon Bad Placement, Weak Dispositor, Bright, Mars Bad Placement, Weak Dispositor, Mercury Good Placement, Combust 14%, In Infancy: 8%, Weak Dispositor, Afflicted House and Mool MEPs Jupiter Good Placement, In Infancy: 32%, Afflicted House and Mool MEPs Venus Good Placement, Saturn Good Placement, Combust 93%, Weak Dispositor, Afflicts 1 4 10 house MEPs, Afflicted House MEP Rahu Good Placement, Debilitated, Ketu Good Placement, Debilitated, Rashi Chart ******************************************************* ** 7 * * 5 ** *8 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MA 19:06* * *RA 08:49 * * * * * *VE 17:45 * 6 AS 14:54 * 4 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * JU 03:23 * * * * ** ME 04:34 * * ** *9 SA 15:10 * 3 * ** SU 17:00 * * ** *10* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 12 * 2 KE 08:49* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MO 19:57 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 11 * * 1 ** ******************************************************* Navamsha ******************************************************* ** 3 * * 1 ** *4 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * AS * * * * * 2 ME * 12 KE * * * * JU * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** *5 SA * 11 * ** * * ** *6 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *SU * * * * * *MO * * * * * *MA * 8 * 10 * *RA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * VE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 7 * * 9 ** ******************************************************* Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis (Contemporary) ======================================= Ra/Ra 24.1.1934 Ra/Ju 6.10.1936 Ra/Sa 2.3.1939 Ra/Me 5.1.1942 Ra/Ke 25.7.1944 Ra/Ve 12.8.1945 Ra/Su 12.8.1948 Ra/Mo 7.7.1949 Ra/Ma 6.1.1951 Ju/Ju 24.1.1952 Ju/Sa 13.3.1954 Ju/Me 24.9.1956 Ju/Ke 31.12.1958 Ju/Ve 7.12.1959 Ju/Su 7.8.1962 Ju/Mo 26.5.1963 Ju/Ma 24.9.1964 Ju/Ra 31.8.1965 Sa/Sa 24.1.1968 Sa/Me 27.1.1971 Sa/Ke 6.10.1973 Sa/Ve 15.11.1974 Sa/Su 15.1.1978 Sa/Mo 28.12.1978 Sa/Ma 28.7.1980 Sa/Ra 6.9.1981 Sa/Ju 13.7.1984 Me/Me 24.1.1987 Me/Ke 22.6.1989 Me/Ve 19.6.1990 Me/Su 19.4.1993 Me/Mo 23.2.1994 Me/Ma 26.7.1995 Me/Ra 22.7.1996 Me/Ju 8.2.1999 Me/Sa 16.5.2001 Ke/Ke 24.1.2004 Ke/Ve 21.6.2004 Ke/Su 22.8.2005 Ke/Mo 27.12.2005 Ke/Ma 28.7.2006 Ke/Ra 25.12.2006 Ke/Ju 12.1.2008 Ke/Sa 18.12.2008 Ke/Me 27.1.2010 Ve/Ve 24.1.2011 Ve/Su 26.5.2014 Ve/Mo 26.5.2015 Ve/Ma 24.1.2017 Ve/Ra 26.3.2018 Ve/Ju 25.3.2021 Ve/Sa 24.11.2023 Ve/Me 24.1.2027 Ve/Ke 24.11.2029 Su/Su 24.1.2031 Su/Mo 14.5.2031 Su/Ma 12.11.2031 Su/Ra 19.3.2032 Su/Ju 11.2.2033 Su/Sa 30.11.2033 Su/Me 12.11.2034 Su/Ke 18.9.2035 Su/Ve 24.1.2036 Mo/Mo 24.1.2037 Mo/Ma 24.11.2037 Mo/Ra 25.6.2038 Mo/Ju 25.12.2039 Mo/Sa 25.4.2041 Mo/Me 24.11.2042 Mo/Ke 25.4.2044 Mo/Ve 24.11.2044 Mo/Su 25.7.2046 Ma/Ma 24.1.2047 Ma/Ra 22.6.2047 Ma/Ju 10.7.2048 Ma/Sa 16.6.2049 Ma/Me 25.7.2050 Ma/Ke 23.7.2051 Ma/Ve 19.12.2051 Ma/Su 17.2.2053 Ma/Mo 25.6.2053 Australia Indep cermony Jan 1, 1901 1:25 PM -10:00 GST Sidney, Australia Longitude: 151E15 Latitude: 33S55 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:28 Current Period: VE/RA/ME Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 04:53 Ari Aswini Ke Sun 17:34 Sag +01:01:09 WK P.Shadya Ve Moon 27:51 Ari +14:06:42 WK Krittika Su Mars 19:11 Leo +00:08:27 WK P.Phalguni Ve Merc 05:25 Sag +01:31:27 FM Mula Ke Jupt 03:30 Sag +00:13:29 WK Mula Ke Ven 18:27 Sco +01:14:28 WK Jyeshtha Me Sat 15:14 Sag +00:07:05 CM P.Shadya Ve Rahu 08:50 Sco +00:00:58 FM Anuradha Sa Ketu 08:50 Tau +00:00:58 FM Krittika Su True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 184 beats Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 4:48 AM Tithi: Shukla Ekadashi Yoga Pt: 18:45 Ar Yogi:Ve AviYogi:Ju Dup Yogi: Ma Dagha Rashis: Sag Pis Sytems Approach Analysis ======================== Sun Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Afflicted House MEP Moon Good Placement, In Old Age: 57%, Weak Dispositor, Bright, Mars Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Mercury Good Placement, Combust 14%, Weak Dispositor, Afflicts 3 9 house MEPs, Afflicted House MEP Jupiter Good Placement, In Infancy: 30%, Afflicted House and Mool MEPs Venus Bad Placement, Saturn Good Placement, Combust 86%, Weak Dispositor, Afflicted House MEP Rahu Bad Placement, Debilitated, Ketu Good Placement, Debilitated, Rashi Chart ******************************************************* ** 2 * * 12 ** *3 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * KE 08:50* * * * * * * AS 04:53 * * * * * 1 MO 27:51 * 11 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** *4 * 10 * ** * * ** *5 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *JU 03:30* * * * * * ME 05:25* *MA 19:11 * 7 * 9 SA 15:14* * * * * * SU 17:34* * * * RA 08:50* * * * * * VE 18:27 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 6 * * 8 ** ******************************************************* Navamsha ******************************************************* ** 3 * * 1 ** *4 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * AS * * * * * 2 ME * 12 KE * * * * JU * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** *5 SA * 11 * ** * * ** *6 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *SU * * * * * *MA * 8 * 10 * *RA * * * * * * * * MO * * * * * * VE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 7 * * 9 ** ******************************************************* Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis (Contemporary) ======================================= Ju/Ju 20.6.1941 Ju/Sa 8.8.1943 Ju/Me 19.2.1946 Ju/Ke 27.5.1948 Ju/Ve 3.5.1949 Ju/Su 2.1.1952 Ju/Mo 20.10.1952 Ju/Ma 19.2.1954 Ju/Ra 26.1.1955 Sa/Sa 20.6.1957 Sa/Me 23.6.1960 Sa/Ke 3.3.1963 Sa/Ve 11.4.1964 Sa/Su 12.6.1967 Sa/Mo 24.5.1968 Sa/Ma 23.12.1969 Sa/Ra 1.2.1971 Sa/Ju 8.12.1973 Me/Me 20.6.1976 Me/Ke 17.11.1978 Me/Ve 14.11.1979 Me/Su 14.9.1982 Me/Mo 21.7.1983 Me/Ma 20.12.1984 Me/Ra 17.12.1985 Me/Ju 5.7.1988 Me/Sa 11.10.1990 Ke/Ke 20.6.1993 Ke/Ve 16.11.1993 Ke/Su 17.1.1995 Ke/Mo 24.5.1995 Ke/Ma 23.12.1995 Ke/Ra 21.5.1996 Ke/Ju 8.6.1997 Ke/Sa 15.5.1998 Ke/Me 24.6.1999 Ve/Ve 20.6.2000 Ve/Su 21.10.2003 Ve/Mo 20.10.2004 Ve/Ma 21.6.2006 Ve/Ra 21.8.2007 Ve/Ju 20.8.2010 Ve/Sa 20.4.2013 Ve/Me 20.6.2016 Ve/Ke 21.4.2019 Su/Su 20.6.2020 Su/Mo 8.10.2020 Su/Ma 8.4.2021 Su/Ra 14.8.2021 Su/Ju 9.7.2022 Su/Sa 27.4.2023 Su/Me 8.4.2024 Su/Ke 12.2.2025 Su/Ve 20.6.2025 Mo/Mo 21.6.2026 Mo/Ma 21.4.2027 Mo/Ra 20.11.2027 Mo/Ju 21.5.2029 Mo/Sa 20.9.2030 Mo/Me 20.4.2032 Mo/Ke 20.9.2033 Mo/Ve 21.4.2034 Mo/Su 20.12.2035 Ma/Ma 20.6.2036 Ma/Ra 16.11.2036 Ma/Ju 5.12.2037 Ma/Sa 11.11.2038 Ma/Me 20.12.2039 Ma/Ke 17.12.2040 Ma/Ve 15.5.2041 Ma/Su 15.7.2042 Ma/Mo 20.11.2042 Ra/Ra 21.6.2043 Ra/Ju 3.3.2046 Ra/Sa 27.7.2048 Ra/Me 2.6.2051 Ra/Ke 20.12.2053 Ra/Ve 7.1.2055 Ra/Su 7.1.2058 Ra/Mo 2.12.2058Ra/Ma 2.6.2060 Australia Indep cermony Jan 1, 1901 12:30 PM -10:00 GST Sidney, Australia Longitude: 151E10 Latitude: 33S55 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:28 Current Period: VE/RA/SA Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 23:17 Pis Revati Me Sun 17:32 Sag +01:01:09 FM P.Shadya Ve Moon 27:18 Ari +14:06:50 WK Krittika Su Mars 19:11 Leo +00:08:28 WK P.Phalguni Ve Merc 05:21 Sag +01:31:26 CM Mula Ke Jupt 03:30 Sag +00:13:29 WK Mula Ke Ven 18:24 Sco +01:14:28 FM Jyeshtha Me Sat 15:14 Sag +00:07:05 FM P.Shadya Ve Rahu 08:50 Sco +00:01:00 FM Anuradha Sa Ketu 08:50 Tau +00:01:00 FM Krittika Su True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 146 beats Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 4:48 AM Tithi: Shukla Ekadashi Yoga Pt: 18:10 Ar Yogi:Ve AviYogi:Ju Dup Yogi: Ma Dagha Rashis: Sag Pis Sytems Approach Analysis ======================== Sun Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Moon Good Placement, In Old Age: 46%, Weak Dispositor, Bright, Mars Bad Placement, Weak Dispositor, Mercury Good Placement, Combust 14%, Weak Dispositor, Jupiter Good Placement, In Infancy: 30%, Venus Good Placement, Saturn Good Placement, Combust 86%, Weak Dispositor, Rahu Good Placement, Debilitated, Ketu Good Placement, Debilitated, Rashi Chart ******************************************************* ** 1 * * 11 ** *2 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MO 27:18* * * * * * * * * * *KE 08:50 * 12 AS 23:17 * 10 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * JU 03:30 * * ** * * ME 05:21 ** *3 * 9 SA 15:14 * ** * * SU 17:32 ** *4 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * RA 08:50* * * 6 * 8 VE 18:24* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MA 19:11 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 5 * * 7 ** ******************************************************* Navamsha ******************************************************* ** 11 * * 9 ** *12* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MO * * * * * VE * * * * * * * * *KE * 10 AS * 8 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** *1 * 7 * ** * * ** *2 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *ME * * * * SU * *JU * 4 * 6 MA * * * * * * RA * * * * * * * * * * * SA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 3 * * 5 ** ******************************************************* Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis (Contemporary) ======================================= Ju/Ju 16.9.1941 Ju/Sa 4.11.1943 Ju/Me 18.5.1946 Ju/Ke 23.8.1948 Ju/Ve 30.7.1949 Ju/Su 30.3.1952 Ju/Mo 16.1.1953 Ju/Ma 18.5.1954 Ju/Ra 24.4.1955 Sa/Sa 16.9.1957 Sa/Me 19.9.1960 Sa/Ke 30.5.1963 Sa/Ve 8.7.1964 Sa/Su 8.9.1967 Sa/Mo 20.8.1968 Sa/Ma 21.3.1970 Sa/Ra 30.4.1971 Sa/Ju 6.3.1974 Me/Me 16.9.1976 Me/Ke 13.2.1979 Me/Ve 10.2.1980 Me/Su 11.12.1982 Me/Mo 17.10.1983 Me/Ma 18.3.1985 Me/Ra 15.3.1986 Me/Ju 1.10.1988 Me/Sa 7.1.1991 Ke/Ke 16.9.1993 Ke/Ve 12.2.1994 Ke/Su 15.4.1995 Ke/Mo 20.8.1995 Ke/Ma 20.3.1996 Ke/Ra 17.8.1996 Ke/Ju 4.9.1997 Ke/Sa 11.8.1998 Ke/Me 20.9.1999 Ve/Ve 16.9.2000 Ve/Su 17.1.2004 Ve/Mo 16.1.2005 Ve/Ma 17.9.2006 Ve/Ra 17.11.2007 Ve/Ju 16.11.2010 Ve/Sa 17.7.2013 Ve/Me 16.9.2016 Ve/Ke 18.7.2019 Su/Su 16.9.2020 Su/Mo 4.1.2021 Su/Ma 5.7.2021 Su/Ra 10.11.2021 Su/Ju 5.10.2022 Su/Sa 24.7.2023 Su/Me 5.7.2024 Su/Ke 11.5.2025 Su/Ve 16.9.2025 Mo/Mo 17.9.2026 Mo/Ma 18.7.2027 Mo/Ra 16.2.2028 Mo/Ju 17.8.2029 Mo/Sa 17.12.2030 Mo/Me 17.7.2032 Mo/Ke 17.12.2033 Mo/Ve 18.7.2034 Mo/Su 17.3.2036 Ma/Ma 16.9.2036 Ma/Ra 12.2.2037 Ma/Ju 3.3.2038 Ma/Sa 7.2.2039 Ma/Me 17.3.2040 Ma/Ke 15.3.2041 Ma/Ve 11.8.2041 Ma/Su 11.10.2042 Ma/Mo 16.2.2043 Ra/Ra 17.9.2043 Ra/Ju 30.5.2046 Ra/Sa 23.10.2048 Ra/Me 29.8.2051 Ra/Ke 18.3.2054 Ra/Ve 5.4.2055 Ra/Su 5.4.2058 Ra/Mo 28.2.2059Ra/Ma 29.8.2060 RonDay <ronkarSAMVA Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 12:39:54 AM Australia—Country of Fire and RainA chart for Australia ie 14Vi55, 1 Jan 1901, 00.00, Melbourne(constitution came into force at midnight) seems to be working well with the current transits. There is massive stress on Australia at present.1. Record breaking heatwave in Victoria and South Australia2. Hottest week since records began with 3 consecutive days above 43 deg C3. Bush fires out of control in Victoria4. Fatigued electrical grid in Victoria5. Disruption to train services6. Health emergencies due to heat fatigue7. More than half of Queensland has been declared a disaster area, affected by the worst floods in 15 yrs after a week of monsoonal rains.The current dasa is Ke/Sa and Sa is the afflicted 6th lord.The nodal axis is on the MEPs of 11H/5HTr 4L Ju is afflicted by Tr Ra and Tr Su(12L) is close to TrRa.The natal chart describes some important aspects of Australia. Australia has been described as the “Lucky Countryâ€. Ascendant lord Me is conjunct benefic Ju.There are challenges though. Su and Sa afflict 4H. The environment can be harsh.Mo and Ma are weak and 2L Ve is afflicted by Ma.12L Su in 4H also describes the multicultural nature of Australia. Many people have emigrated from overseas countries to find a new home. Su/Sa conjunction shows that many early immigrants were convicts.Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Dear Ron and list members, The tragic loss of life due to forest fires in Australia in the past week has stunned most observers. The 14° 55' Virgo rising chart for Australia gives a credible reason for dry conditions and fires and loss of housing or natural resources, through - 12th lord Sun (losses, heat) and 6th lord Saturn (accidents, disruptions) are conjunct in the MEP of the 4th house (natural resources, fixed assets) - 8th lord Mars (obstacles, heat) in MEP of 12th house aspects 2nd lord Venus (wealth) in MEP of 3rd house The transits that explain the events are - transit stationary FM Ketu is afflicting natal 2nd lord Venus - transit stationary FM's Rahu and Ketu are afflicting transit 4th lord Jupiter - transit 6th lord Saturn is in Leo and 12th house while transit 12th lord Sun is in Aquarius and 6th house For the coming week, transit 8th lord Mars will conjoin the transit stationary nodal axis and also transit 4th lord Jupiter. This indicates the conditions may remain quite difficult in Australia for some more days. Best wishes, Thor RonDay <ronkarSAMVA Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 12:39:54 AM Australia—Country of Fire and RainA chart for Australia ie 14Vi55, 1 Jan 1901, 00.00, Melbourne(constitution came into force at midnight) seems to be working well with the current transits. There is massive stress on Australia at present.1. Record breaking heatwave in Victoria and South Australia2. Hottest week since records began with 3 consecutive days above 43 deg C3. Bush fires out of control in Victoria4. Fatigued electrical grid in Victoria5. Disruption to train services6. Health emergencies due to heat fatigue7. More than half of Queensland has been declared a disaster area, affected by the worst floods in 15 yrs after a week of monsoonal rains.The current dasa is Ke/Sa and Sa is the afflicted 6th lord.The nodal axis is on the MEPs of 11H/5HTr 4L Ju is afflicted by Tr Ra and Tr Su(12L) is close to TrRa.The natal chart describes some important aspects of Australia. Australia has been described as the “Lucky Countryâ€. Ascendant lord Me is conjunct benefic Ju.There are challenges though. Su and Sa afflict 4H. The environment can be harsh.Mo and Ma are weak and 2L Ve is afflicted by Ma.12L Su in 4H also describes the multicultural nature of Australia. Many people have emigrated from overseas countries to find a new home. Su/Sa conjunction shows that many early immigrants were convicts.Ron--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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