Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Sunday, February 22, 2009 Downfall of a President The Oscar nominee for best picture, Frost/Nixon, brings to life a moment in 1977 when President Richard Milhouse Nixon publicly admitted his wrongdoings in the Watergate Scandal and apologised to the American public for it. In doing so, a painful episode began to close in American history concerning a highly evident case of manipulation of power at the highest levels of government. This tendency and the downfall of President Nixon are shown in a crystal clear manner in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dear friends, I would like to ask you to compare the two transit charts for the following major events in the history of the US Presidency, which are ruled by the Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn in the SAMVA USA chart. August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns http://tinyurl.com/Nixon-resigns November 22, 1963: Kennedy is killed http://tinyurl.com/Kennedy-killed Can the close affliction to the Sun in both cases be a coincidence? I don´t think so. Best wishes, Thor http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/ SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of President Kennedy (Thursday, December 20, 2007) Downfall of a President (Sunday, February 22, 2009) Cosmologer <cosmologersamva Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:53:08 PM Blog: Downfall of a President Sunday, February 22, 2009 Downfall of a President The Oscar nominee for best picture, Frost/Nixon, brings to life a moment in 1977 when President Richard Milhouse Nixon publicly admitted his wrongdoings in the Watergate Scandal and apologised to the American public for it. In doing so, a painful episode began to close in American history concerning a highly evident case of manipulation of power at the highest levels of government. This tendency and the downfall of President Nixon are shown in a crystal clear manner in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union). To read more: http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Hello my dear Thor, You are right. It is not a coincident. In November, 1963, the transit influence of Saturn (8L) was a prolonged one simultaneous to the almost stationary influence of the nodes besides some other unfavorable influences. Best wishes. - Cosmologer SAMVA Monday, February 23, 2009 1:08 PM Re: Blog: Downfall of a President Dear friends, I would like to ask you to compare the two transit charts for the following major events in the history of the US Presidency, which are ruled by the Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn in the SAMVA USA chart. August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns http://tinyurl.com/Nixon-resigns November 22, 1963: Kennedy is killed http://tinyurl.com/Kennedy-killed Can the close affliction to the Sun in both cases be a coincidence? I don´t think so. Best wishes, Thor http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/ SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of President Kennedy (Thursday, December 20, 2007) Downfall of a President (Sunday, February 22, 2009) Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:53:08 PM Blog: Downfall of a President Sunday, February 22, 2009 Downfall of a President The Oscar nominee for best picture, Frost/Nixon, brings to life a moment in 1977 when President Richard Milhouse Nixon publicly admitted his wrongdoings in the Watergate Scandal and apologised to the American public for it. In doing so, a painful episode began to close in American history concerning a highly evident case of manipulation of power at the highest levels of government. This tendency and the downfall of President Nixon are shown in a crystal clear manner in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 My dear , Thanks for mentioning also the affliction involving the transit-to-natal nodes in 1963. A similar configuration is there leading up to the events in 1974: "Interestingly, in the months leading up to the resignation, the nodes were stationary afflicting natal 8th lord Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio/H5 and natal Sun. Transit 8th lord Saturn was conjunct the MEP of the 12th house under aspect from 6th lord Jupiter conjunct the MEP of the 8th house. Transit Saturn was also afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47 Libra in the 4th house. As the above timeline shows, the months leading up to the resignation were very tense in the political life of the country."http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2009/02/downfall-of-president.html Still, the compelling feature is the affliction to the natal and transit Sun, the general indicator of the US President, in both cases in the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:43:34 AMRe: Blog: Downfall of a President Hello my dear Thor, You are right. It is not a coincident. In November, 1963, the transit influence of Saturn (8L) was a prolonged one simultaneous to the almost stationary influence of the nodes besides some other unfavorable influences. Best wishes. - Cosmologer SAMVA Monday, February 23, 2009 1:08 PM Re: Blog: Downfall of a President Dear friends, I would like to ask you to compare the two transit charts for the following major events in the history of the US Presidency, which are ruled by the Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn in the SAMVA USA chart. August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns http://tinyurl. com/Nixon- resigns November 22, 1963: Kennedy is killed http://tinyurl. com/Kennedy- killed Can the close affliction to the Sun in both cases be a coincidence? I don´t think so. Best wishes, Thor http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/ SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of President Kennedy (Thursday, December 20, 2007) Downfall of a President (Sunday, February 22, 2009) Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:53:08 PM Blog: Downfall of a President Sunday, February 22, 2009 Downfall of a President The Oscar nominee for best picture, Frost/Nixon, brings to life a moment in 1977 when President Richard Milhouse Nixon publicly admitted his wrongdoings in the Watergate Scandal and apologised to the American public for it. In doing so, a painful episode began to close in American history concerning a highly evident case of manipulation of power at the highest levels of government. This tendency and the downfall of President Nixon are shown in a crystal clear manner in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Hello my dear Thor, The affliction to the Sun involves the top leaders and highly placed persons. The affliction of 8L can cause to strong obstructions, death like situations or death. Best wishes. - Cosmologer SAMVA Monday, February 23, 2009 2:30 PM Re: Blog: Downfall of a President My dear , Thanks for mentioning also the affliction involving the transit-to-natal nodes in 1963. A similar configuration is there leading up to the events in 1974: "Interestingly, in the months leading up to the resignation, the nodes were stationary afflicting natal 8th lord Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio/H5 and natal Sun. Transit 8th lord Saturn was conjunct the MEP of the 12th house under aspect from 6th lord Jupiter conjunct the MEP of the 8th house. Transit Saturn was also afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47 Libra in the 4th house. As the above timeline shows, the months leading up to the resignation were very tense in the political life of the country."http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2009/02/downfall-of-president.html Still, the compelling feature is the affliction to the natal and transit Sun, the general indicator of the US President, in both cases in the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhry >SAMVA Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:43:34 AMRe: Blog: Downfall of a President Hello my dear Thor, You are right. It is not a coincident. In November, 1963, the transit influence of Saturn (8L) was a prolonged one simultaneous to the almost stationary influence of the nodes besides some other unfavorable influences. Best wishes. - Cosmologer SAMVA Monday, February 23, 2009 1:08 PM Re: Blog: Downfall of a President Dear friends, I would like to ask you to compare the two transit charts for the following major events in the history of the US Presidency, which are ruled by the Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn in the SAMVA USA chart. August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns http://tinyurl. com/Nixon- resigns November 22, 1963: Kennedy is killed http://tinyurl. com/Kennedy- killed Can the close affliction to the Sun in both cases be a coincidence? I don´t think so. Best wishes, Thor http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/ SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of President Kennedy (Thursday, December 20, 2007) Downfall of a President (Sunday, February 22, 2009) Cosmologer <cosmologer >samva Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:53:08 PM Blog: Downfall of a President Sunday, February 22, 2009 Downfall of a President The Oscar nominee for best picture, Frost/Nixon, brings to life a moment in 1977 when President Richard Milhouse Nixon publicly admitted his wrongdoings in the Watergate Scandal and apologised to the American public for it. In doing so, a painful episode began to close in American history concerning a highly evident case of manipulation of power at the highest levels of government. This tendency and the downfall of President Nixon are shown in a crystal clear manner in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 My dear , Thanks for the further important clarification. Indeed, this insight is also consistent with the salient difference between the events of 1963, when a US President died in office, and in 1974, when a US President was forced out of office. The NATURE of both events is clearly seen in the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry wrote: > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > The affliction to the Sun involves the top leaders and highly placed persons. The affliction of 8L can cause to strong obstructions, death like situations or death. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, February 23, 2009 2:30 PM > Re: Blog: Downfall of a President > > > > My dear , > > Thanks for mentioning also the affliction involving the transit- to-natal nodes in 1963. > > A similar configuration is there leading up to the events in 1974: > " Interestingly, in the months leading up to the resignation, the nodes were stationary afflicting natal 8th lord Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio/H5 and natal Sun. Transit 8th lord Saturn was conjunct the MEP of the 12th house under aspect from 6th lord Jupiter conjunct the MEP of the 8th house. Transit Saturn was also afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47 Libra in the 4th house. As the above timeline shows, the months leading up to the resignation were very tense in the political life of the country. " > http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2009/02/downfall-of-president.html > > Still, the compelling feature is the affliction to the natal and transit Sun, the general indicator of the US President, in both cases in the SAMVA USA chart. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > -- ---------- > SIHA <vkchoudhry > SAMVA > Monday, February 23, 2009 8:43:34 AM > Re: Blog: Downfall of a President > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > You are right. It is not a coincident. In November, 1963, the transit influence of Saturn (8L) was a prolonged one simultaneous to the almost stationary influence of the nodes besides some other unfavorable influences. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, February 23, 2009 1:08 PM > Re: Blog: Downfall of a President > > > > Dear friends, > > I would like to ask you to compare the two transit charts for the following major events in the history of the US Presidency, which are ruled by the Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn in the SAMVA USA chart. > > August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns > http://tinyurl. com/Nixon- resigns > > November 22, 1963: Kennedy is killed > http://tinyurl. com/Kennedy- killed > > Can the close affliction to the Sun in both cases be a coincidence? I don´t think so. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/ > > SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of President Kennedy (Thursday, December 20, 2007) > > Downfall of a President (Sunday, February 22, 2009) > > > > > -- -------- > Cosmologer <cosmologer > > samva > Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:53:08 PM > Blog: Downfall of a President > > > Sunday, February 22, 2009 > Downfall of a President > The Oscar nominee for best picture, Frost/Nixon, brings to life a moment in 1977 when President Richard Milhouse Nixon publicly admitted his wrongdoings in the Watergate Scandal and apologised to the American public for it. In doing so, a painful episode began to close in American history concerning a highly evident case of manipulation of power at the highest levels of government. This tendency and the downfall of President Nixon are shown in a crystal clear manner in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union). > > To read more: > http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Hello my dear Thor, The principles of SA are so seasoned that they rarely fail. Best wishes. - Cosmologer SAMVA Monday, February 23, 2009 6:48 PM Re: Re: Blog: Downfall of a President Dear friends, We can also note that the three other presidential assassinations leading to death of the President involved the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart, either natally, in transit or both. Lincoln killed in 1865 during Mercury-Jupiter period with transit 2nd lord Sun afflicted by transit 8th lord Saturn and transit 6th lord Jupiter. http://tinyurl.com/Lincoln-killed Garfield killed in 1881 during Venus-Moon period with transit Ketu afflicting natal 2nd lord Sun and natal Ketu and transit 8th lord Saturn afflicting transit 2nd lord Sun in 12th house. http://tinyurl.com/Garfield-killed McKinley killed in 1901 during Sun-Venus period with transit Ketu afflicting transit 2nd lord Sun in 2nd house and also MEP of 2nd house. Natal Rahu in 10th house afflicting transit 8th lord Saturn in 6th house. http://tinyurl.com/McKinley-killed In addition to the striking fit for both the nature and timing of the following events November 22, 1963: Kennedy is killedhttp://tinyurl.com/Kennedy-killed August 9, 1974: Nixon resignshttp://tinyurl.com/Nixon-resigns All of this offers stunning verification of the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:24:11 AM Re: Blog: Downfall of a PresidentMy dear ,Thanks for the further important clarification. Indeed, this insight is also consistent with the salient difference between the events of 1963, when a US President died in office, and in 1974, when a US President was forced out of office. The NATURE of both events is clearly seen in the SAMVA USA chart.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > The affliction to the Sun involves the top leaders and highly placed persons. The affliction of 8L can cause to strong obstructions, death like situations or death. > > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, February 23, 2009 2:30 PM> Re: Blog: Downfall of a President> > > > My dear ,> > Thanks for mentioning also the affliction involving the transit-to-natal nodes in 1963. > > A similar configuration is there leading up to the events in 1974:> "Interestingly, in the months leading up to the resignation, the nodes were stationary afflicting natal 8th lord Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio/H5 and natal Sun. Transit 8th lord Saturn was conjunct the MEP of the 12th house under aspect from 6th lord Jupiter conjunct the MEP of the 8th house. Transit Saturn was also afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47 Libra in the 4th house. As the above timeline shows, the months leading up to the resignation were very tense in the political life of the country."> http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2009/02/downfall-of-president.html> > Still, the compelling feature is the affliction to the natal and transit Sun, the general indicator of the US President, in both cases in the SAMVA USA chart.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > > > > SIHA <vkchoudhry> SAMVA > Monday, February 23, 2009 8:43:34 AM> Re: Blog: Downfall of a President> > > > Hello my dear Thor,> > You are right. It is not a coincident. In November, 1963, the transit influence of Saturn (8L) was a prolonged one simultaneous to the almost stationary influence of the nodes besides some other unfavorable influences. > > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, February 23, 2009 1:08 PM> Re: Blog: Downfall of a President> > > > Dear friends,> > I would like to ask you to compare the two transit charts for the following major events in the history of the US Presidency, which are ruled by the Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn in the SAMVA USA chart.> > August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns> http://tinyurl.com/Nixon-resigns> > November 22, 1963: Kennedy is killed> http://tinyurl.com/Kennedy-killed> > Can the close affliction to the Sun in both cases be a coincidence? I don´t think so.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/> > SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of President Kennedy (Thursday, December 20, 2007)> > Downfall of a President (Sunday, February 22, 2009)> > > > > ----------> Cosmologer <cosmologer >> samva > Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:53:08 PM> Blog: Downfall of a President> > > Sunday, February 22, 2009> Downfall of a President > The Oscar nominee for best picture, Frost/Nixon, brings to life a moment in 1977 when President Richard Milhouse Nixon publicly admitted his wrongdoings in the Watergate Scandal and apologised to the American public for it. In doing so, a painful episode began to close in American history concerning a highly evident case of manipulation of power at the highest levels of government. This tendency and the downfall of President Nixon are shown in a crystal clear manner in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union).> > To read more:> http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/>--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Hello my dear Thor, Wish you continued best of luck. - Cosmologer SAMVA Monday, February 23, 2009 9:44 PM Re: Re: Blog: Downfall of a President My dear VK, You are very right. Any success in the mundane sphere owes to the veracity of SA. Certainly, it is the most profound contribution to the world of astrology that I have come across. That said, even with the benefit of SA, I have found in our work on SAMVA for the past decade that the real challenge to developing an authentic horoscopefor any national entity is to locate the historical event signifying its birth. It has proved much harder to establish an authentic mundane chart than, say, to rectify an authentic horoscope for a person. At least, in the case of most people, they know what day they were born on! The same information for mundane births is much harder to come by - also as the historical events which they are based on sometimes differ. My excitement about the SAMVA USA chart reflects the long search and many failed attempts to find the historical basis of an authentic horoscope for the USA. The SAMVA USA chart has now been discovered and the more I study it, the easier it becomes to understand the dynamics of the chart in terms of different types of events. Understandably, it is a source of satisfaction, after so many failed charts, to present consistent insights based on the SAMVA USA chart for others to see. That said, the essential insight is that with SA and an authentic mundane chart, these two things come together, to reveal the past, present and future destiny. To my mind, that is no small achievement. Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhry >SAMVA Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:08:24 PMRe: Re: Blog: Downfall of a President Hello my dear Thor, The principles of SA are so seasoned that they rarely fail. Best wishes. - Cosmologer SAMVA Monday, February 23, 2009 6:48 PM Re: Re: Blog: Downfall of a President Dear friends, We can also note that the three other presidential assassinations leading to death of the President involved the Sun in the SAMVA USA chart, either natally, in transit or both. Lincoln killed in 1865 during Mercury-Jupiter period with transit 2nd lord Sun afflicted by transit 8th lord Saturn and transit 6th lord Jupiter. http://tinyurl. com/Lincoln- killed Garfield killed in 1881 during Venus-Moon period with transit Ketu afflicting natal 2nd lord Sun and natal Ketu and transit 8th lord Saturn afflicting transit 2nd lord Sun in 12th house. http://tinyurl. com/Garfield- killed McKinley killed in 1901 during Sun-Venus period with transit Ketu afflicting transit 2nd lord Sun in 2nd house and also MEP of 2nd house. Natal Rahu in 10th house afflicting transit 8th lord Saturn in 6th house. http://tinyurl. com/McKinley- killed In addition to the striking fit for both the nature and timing of the following events November 22, 1963: Kennedy is killedhttp://tinyurl. com/Kennedy- killed August 9, 1974: Nixon resignshttp://tinyurl. com/Nixon- resigns All of this offers stunning verification of the SAMVA USA chart. Best wishes, Thor cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Monday, February 23, 2009 10:24:11 AM Re: Blog: Downfall of a PresidentMy dear ,Thanks for the further important clarification. Indeed, this insight is also consistent with the salient difference between the events of 1963, when a US President died in office, and in 1974, when a US President was forced out of office. The NATURE of both events is clearly seen in the SAMVA USA chart.Best wishes,ThorSAMVA , "SIHA" <vkchoudhry@. ..> wrote:>> > Hello my dear Thor,> > The affliction to the Sun involves the top leaders and highly placed persons. The affliction of 8L can cause to strong obstructions, death like situations or death. > > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, February 23, 2009 2:30 PM> Re: Blog: Downfall of a President> > > > My dear ,> > Thanks for mentioning also the affliction involving the transit-to-natal nodes in 1963. > > A similar configuration is there leading up to the events in 1974:> "Interestingly, in the months leading up to the resignation, the nodes were stationary afflicting natal 8th lord Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio/H5 and natal Sun. Transit 8th lord Saturn was conjunct the MEP of the 12th house under aspect from 6th lord Jupiter conjunct the MEP of the 8th house. Transit Saturn was also afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47 Libra in the 4th house. As the above timeline shows, the months leading up to the resignation were very tense in the political life of the country."> http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/2009/ 02/downfall- of-president. html> > Still, the compelling feature is the affliction to the natal and transit Sun, the general indicator of the US President, in both cases in the SAMVA USA chart.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> SIHA <vkchoudhry@. ..>> SAMVA > Monday, February 23, 2009 8:43:34 AM> Re: Blog: Downfall of a President> > > > Hello my dear Thor,> > You are right. It is not a coincident. In November, 1963, the transit influence of Saturn (8L) was a prolonged one simultaneous to the almost stationary influence of the nodes besides some other unfavorable influences. > > Best wishes.> > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Monday, February 23, 2009 1:08 PM> Re: Blog: Downfall of a President> > > > Dear friends,> > I would like to ask you to compare the two transit charts for the following major events in the history of the US Presidency, which are ruled by the Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn in the SAMVA USA chart.> > August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns> http://tinyurl. com/Nixon- resigns> > November 22, 1963: Kennedy is killed> http://tinyurl. com/Kennedy- killed> > Can the close affliction to the Sun in both cases be a coincidence? I don´t think so.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/> > SAMVA USA chart: the assassination of President Kennedy (Thursday, December 20, 2007)> > Downfall of a President (Sunday, February 22, 2009)> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----------> Cosmologer <cosmologer >> samva > Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:53:08 PM> Blog: Downfall of a President> > > Sunday, February 22, 2009> Downfall of a President > The Oscar nominee for best picture, Frost/Nixon, brings to life a moment in 1977 when President Richard Milhouse Nixon publicly admitted his wrongdoings in the Watergate Scandal and apologised to the American public for it. In doing so, a painful episode began to close in American history concerning a highly evident case of manipulation of power at the highest levels of government. This tendency and the downfall of President Nixon are shown in a crystal clear manner in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union).> > To read more:> http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/>------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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