Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Thor, Situation looks very bearish. To your opinion, when the US market will turn to bullish side? armands On 3/2/09, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/03/02/markets/index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. Best wishes, Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Thor, In the short term (from now into Q2) there are difficulties. Mercury and Mars enter the 8H starting this week. The passage into the 9H of the Sun, Mercury and Mars soon enough brings balance. The conjunction of Jupiter to the MEP of the 7H adds tension. Later on, it afflicts the natal Sun. Jupiter in old age then becomes afflicted by natal Saturn. Saturn is exactly conjunct the 2H within 2 degrees, albeit for a short time. Then nodes afflict natal Mercury, Ketu afflicts natal Mars and Jupiter. On the 22 October 2008, I posted: " In summary, the financial health of the nation will remain shaky until Jupiter moves into the 9H. On 2 May 2010, Jupiter enters the 9H, retrogrades, moves into the 8H for one month in November 2010, and then into the 9H until May 2011. " A bull market doesn't just start after this sort of drawdown. It will take some time for further down and sideways movement. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Monday, March 02, 2009 3:09 PM Re: Stocks in US drop further Dear Armands, Good question. As you will know, it is difficult to predict short term moves in share prices. They reflect so many things. However, let us look at the key challenging transits ahead in 2009 to see what they may suggest for the US financial market going forward. Overall it seems they may serve to keep situation in the stock market subdued for most of this year. Let me review the basic factors. Saturn sub-period is operating within the Venus major period in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union). This makes Saturn most important for reading the trends in the economy until April 2012. Saturn is natally strong, which is good for its indications. However, as Saturn afflicts the Sun as 2nd lord of wealth we can expect this period not to be so good for the progress of wealth in the country. This is more so as Saturn is also 8th lord in the chart. The periods of functional malefic planets are normally considered less auspicious than those of functional benefic planets. Now lets look at important transit contacts in the chart, which suggest the significant events: 8th lord Saturn will become conjunct the most effective point of the 2nd house at 20° 00' Leo from April to June 2009. The conjunction is within 1° orb in May 2009. Fortunately, the aspect never becomes exact, reducing the impact. Moreover, transit Sun, as dispositor of Saturn and owner of the 2nd house, will mostly be strong in transit at this time, protecting its indications. Nevertheless, this would place strain on the wealth and status of the country. From September 2009 Saturn will be in the sign Virgo and 3rd house, asun-like house, where it gains 25% additional strength (on top of the strength otherwise derived). This is the only house that is not afflicted in the horoscope. Moreover, as Mercury is fairly strong and well placed natally in the chart, Saturn will be reasonably strong there. That said, Mercury in transit is alternating frequently between strength and weakness and this would make the indications of Saturn somewhat tender. FMs Rahu andKetuwill become stationary at 6° 20' Capricorn and Cancer, respectively, from May to July 2009, where transit Rahu afflicts natal 1st lord Moon at 7° 19' Taurus and 11th house. This would place a strain on the self image of the Americans. 10th lord Mars will pass through the sign Gemini and 12th house in the first half of July 2009, which will reduce the confidence of investors. 2nd lord Sun will pass through Gemini and the 12th house from mid June until mid July 2009, adding to the concerns. 6th lord Jupiter will remain weak in transit for the next 14 months which suggests financial stability will remain fragile for all of tha time. In early May 2009 Jupiter moves from its sign of debilitation Capricorn to Aquarius and the 8th house. In August 2009 it moves back into Capricorn and then enters Aquarius again in December 2009 and moves fairly quickly through the 8th house until May 2010. Moreover, from September to November 2009 transit Jupiter will become stationary at 23° 30' Capricorn where it will closely afflict natal 2nd lord Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. This suggests acute strain from the weak financial stability which will weigh heavily on the wealth and status of the country. The President and highly placed politicians may become caught up in controversy or conflict. All of the above suggests that the situation will remain volatile for most of this year. There will likely be some improvement in the Autumn when Saturn, the sub-period lord, moves into Virgo. This has earlier been pointed out by . However, the aspect of transit Jupiter to the lord of wealth will likely keep the pressure on until mid November 2009. There will be some periods in between that the pressure is less and at those times the market may possibly do better. In other words, I am not seeing indications for the stock market to turn bullish before then. Importantly, I am also not saying the market will turn bullish after that time either. I plan to look at the transits going beyond that time later. I´d be interested in the views of other list members on this issue. Best wishes, Thor ________________________________ Armands Birins <abirins SAMVA Monday, March 2, 2009 6:47:18 PM Re: Stocks in US drop further Dear Thor, Situation looks very bearish. To your opinion, when the US market will turn to bullish side? armands On 3/2/09, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/03/02/markets/index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear friends, The present bear market, characterised by investors' relentless despair about financial companies and the recession, has reached a now low today. The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed down almost 300 points, or 4,24%, at 6763.23. This low level has not been seen since April 1997. PLANETS OF COURAGE As noted earlier, the bad transits, involving afflictions by natal 8th lord Saturn to the two planets indicating courage in the SAMVA USA chart, Mercury as 3rd lord and Mars, as well as the transit nodes moving closer to an affliction of natal Mercury and aspect to natal Mars, is a large part of the explanation. With Mercury and Mars weak in transit into April and the nodal afflictions not passing until May, when transit Saturn's affliction of the 2nd, 4th, 8th and 11th houses becomes tense. As a result, investors are likely to remain on edge for some more time. These are interesting times. Best wishes, Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 8:09:30 PMRe: Stocks in US drop further Dear Armands, Good question. As you will know, it is difficult to predict short term moves in share prices. They reflect so many things. However, let us look at the key challenging transits ahead in 2009 to see what they may suggest for the US financial market going forward. Overall it seems they may serve to keep situation in the stock market subdued for most of this year. Let me review the basic factors. Saturn sub-period is operating within the Venus major period in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union). This makes Saturn most important for reading the trends in the economy until April 2012. Saturn is natally strong, which is good for its indications. However, as Saturn afflicts the Sun as 2nd lord of wealth we can expect this period not to be so good for the progress of wealth in the country. This is more so as Saturn is also 8th lord in the chart. The periods of functional malefic planets are normally considered less auspicious than those of functional benefic planets. Now lets look at important transit contacts in the chart, which suggest the significant events: 8th lord Saturn will become conjunct the most effective point of the 2nd house at 20° 00' Leo from April to June 2009. The conjunction is within 1° orb in May 2009. Fortunately, the aspect never becomes exact, reducing the impact. Moreover, transit Sun, as dispositor of Saturn and owner of the 2nd house, will mostly be strong in transit at this time, protecting its indications. Nevertheless, this would place strain on the wealth and status of the country. From September 2009 Saturn will be in the sign Virgo and 3rd house, a sun-like house, where it gains 25% additional strength (on top of the strength otherwise derived). This is the only house that is not afflicted in the horoscope. Moreover, as Mercury is fairly strong and well placed natally in the chart, Saturn will be reasonably strong there. That said, Mercury in transit is alternating frequently between strength and weakness and this would make the indications of Saturn somewhat tender. FMs Rahu and Ketu will become stationary at 6° 20' Capricorn and Cancer, respectively, from May to July 2009, where transit Rahu afflicts natal 1st lord Moon at 7° 19' Taurus and 11th house. This would place a strain on the self image of the Americans. 10th lord Mars will pass through the sign Gemini and 12th house in the first half of July 2009, which will reduce the confidence of investors. 2nd lord Sun will pass through Gemini and the 12th house from mid June until mid July 2009, adding to the concerns. 6th lord Jupiter will remain weak in transit for the next 14 months which suggests financial stability will remain fragile for all of tha time. In early May 2009 Jupiter moves from its sign of debilitation Capricorn to Aquarius and the 8th house. In August 2009 it moves back into Capricorn and then enters Aquarius again in December 2009 and moves fairly quickly through the 8th house until May 2010. Moreover, from September to November 2009 transit Jupiter will become stationary at 23° 30' Capricorn where it will closely afflict natal 2nd lord Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. This suggests acute strain from the weak financial stability which will weigh heavily on the wealth and status of the country. The President and highly placed politicians may become caught up in controversy or conflict. All of the above suggests that the situation will remain volatile for most of this year. There will likely be some improvement in the Autumn when Saturn, the sub-period lord, moves into Virgo. This has earlier been pointed out by . However, the aspect of transit Jupiter to the lord of wealth will likely keep the pressure on until mid November 2009. There will be some periods in between that the pressure is less and at those times the market may possibly do better. In other words, I am not seeing indications for the stock market to turn bullish before then. Importantly, I am also not saying the market will turn bullish after that time either. I plan to look at the transits going beyond that time later. I´d be interested in the views of other list members on this issue. Best wishes, Thor Armands Birins <abirinsSAMVA Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 6:47:18 PMRe: Stocks in US drop further Dear Thor, Situation looks very bearish. To your opinion, when the US market will turn to bullish side? armands On 3/2/09, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/03/02/markets/index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Dear Thor, Another point that list members must consider is that markets are now global and one country's chart in isolation does not reveal the outlook entirely. My previous forecast was a simple one based on Jupiter's transit, the periods, and taking into account what the current state of affairs was at the time. Since early 2000's I've held the view that banks in the USA are catastrophically overleveraged. Unless this is tackled, it's bound to worsen. Quite frankly, nothing has been done to fix the problem or even remotely start moving in the right direction. Perhaps if it all crumbles, the gold standard will have to be readopted. It's not an easy problem to fix by current methods and politics. I've digressed, investors should stay out if they can and wait for strength of Jupiter for better decisions. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Monday, March 02, 2009 5:02 PM Re: Stocks in US drop further Dear Vyas, Indeed, the transits are quite difficult. So far your prediction based on the chart is on track. Good job! Sometimes, it is easy to overlook important pieces of the puzzle. Just today I spotted the afflictions involving the faster moving Mercury and Mars in transit. This made the nodal influence on the same planets natally in the chart more compelling. Since the discovery of the SAMVA USA chart, we have learned such a great deal. While SA is a wonderful starting point to such an inquiry, we must also spend time to understand all that can be going on in a chart any given time. We have learned to improve our understandanding of the subtle properties of the SAMVA USA chart, not least due to 's helping us along by sharing his insights based on vast experience and a profound understanding. With his guidance, we have been able to follow the events in US life with a view to the chart in real time. Even if time consuming it has been a highly rewarding experience. By the way, transit Saturn will come within 1° orb of the MEP of the 2nd house at the closest point for a few weeks in May 2009. Best wishes, Thor ________________________________ Vyas Munidas <muni> SAMVA Monday, March 2, 2009 9:44:06 PM Re: Stocks in US drop further Dear Thor, In the short term (from now into Q2) there are difficulties. Mercury and Mars enter the 8H starting this week. The passage into the 9H of the Sun, Mercury and Mars soon enough brings balance. The conjunction of Jupiter to the MEP of the 7H adds tension. Later on, it afflicts the natal Sun. Jupiter in old age then becomes afflicted by natal Saturn. Saturn is exactly conjunct the 2H within 2 degrees, albeit for a short time. Then nodes afflict natal Mercury, Ketu afflicts natal Mars and Jupiter. On the 22 October 2008, I posted: " In summary, the financial health of the nation will remain shaky until Jupiter moves into the 9H. On 2 May 2010, Jupiter enters the 9H, retrogrades, moves into the 8H for one month in November 2010, and then into the 9H until May 2011. " A bull market doesn't just start after this sort of drawdown. It will take some time for further down and sideways movement. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Monday, March 02, 2009 3:09 PM Re: Stocks in US drop further Dear Armands, Good question. As you will know, it is difficult to predict short term moves in share prices. They reflect so many things. However, let us look at the key challenging transits ahead in 2009 to see what they may suggest for the US financial market going forward. Overall it seems they may serve to keep situation in the stock market subdued for most of this year. Let me review the basic factors. Saturn sub-period is operating within the Venus major period in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union). This makes Saturn most important for reading the trends in the economy until April 2012. Saturn is natally strong, which is good for its indications. However, as Saturn afflicts the Sun as 2nd lord of wealth we can expect this period not to be so good for the progress of wealth in the country. This is more so as Saturn is also 8th lord in the chart. The periods of functional malefic planets are normally considered less auspicious than those of functional benefic planets. Now lets look at important transit contacts in the chart, which suggest the significant events: 8th lord Saturn will become conjunct the most effective point of the 2nd house at 20° 00' Leo from April to June 2009. The conjunction is within 1° orb in May 2009. Fortunately, the aspect never becomes exact, reducing the impact. Moreover, transit Sun, as dispositor of Saturn and owner of the 2nd house, will mostly be strong in transit at this time, protecting its indications. Nevertheless, this would place strain on the wealth and status of the country. From September 2009 Saturn will be in the sign Virgo and 3rd house, asun-like house, where it gains 25% additional strength (on top of the strength otherwise derived). This is the only house that is not afflicted in the horoscope. Moreover, as Mercury is fairly strong and well placed natally in the chart, Saturn will be reasonably strong there. That said, Mercury in transit is alternating frequently between strength and weakness and this would make the indications of Saturn somewhat tender. FMs Rahu andKetuwill become stationary at 6° 20' Capricorn and Cancer, respectively, from May to July 2009, where transit Rahu afflicts natal 1st lord Moon at 7° 19' Taurus and 11th house. This would place a strain on the self image of the Americans. 10th lord Mars will pass through the sign Gemini and 12th house in the first half of July 2009, which will reduce the confidence of investors. 2nd lord Sun will pass through Gemini and the 12th house from mid June until mid July 2009, adding to the concerns. 6th lord Jupiter will remain weak in transit for the next 14 months which suggests financial stability will remain fragile for all of tha time. In early May 2009 Jupiter moves from its sign of debilitation Capricorn to Aquarius and the 8th house. In August 2009 it moves back into Capricorn and then enters Aquarius again in December 2009 and moves fairly quickly through the 8th house until May 2010. Moreover, from September to November 2009 transit Jupiter will become stationary at 23° 30' Capricorn where it will closely afflict natal 2nd lord Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. This suggests acute strain from the weak financial stability which will weigh heavily on the wealth and status of the country. The President and highly placed politicians may become caught up in controversy or conflict. All of the above suggests that the situation will remain volatile for most of this year. There will likely be some improvement in the Autumn when Saturn, the sub-period lord, moves into Virgo. This has earlier been pointed out by . However, the aspect of transit Jupiter to the lord of wealth will likely keep the pressure on until mid November 2009. There will be some periods in between that the pressure is less and at those times the market may possibly do better. In other words, I am not seeing indications for the stock market to turn bullish before then. Importantly, I am also not saying the market will turn bullish after that time either. I plan to look at the transits going beyond that time later. I´d be interested in the views of other list members on this issue. Best wishes, Thor ________________________________ Armands Birins <abirins SAMVA Monday, March 2, 2009 6:47:18 PM Re: Stocks in US drop further Dear Thor, Situation looks very bearish. To your opinion, when the US market will turn to bullish side? armands On 3/2/09, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/03/02/markets/index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Hello my dear , Yes, we can do that. Wikipedia defines the fortnight as "a unit of time equivalent to fourteen days" or two weeks. The present nodal station begins to lift around March 12, at which time the situation should gradually begin to ease and become clearer to comprehend. Mars Mercury Jupiter Saturn Rahu Ketu 3.3.2009 26°Cp30' 27°Cp06' 19°Cp08' 24°Le51'R 14°Cp47' 14°Cn47' 4.3.2009 27°Cp17' 28°Cp36' 19°Cp21' 24°Le46'R 14°Cp46' 14°Cn46' 5.3.2009 28°Cp04' 0°Aq07' 19°Cp34' 24°Le41'R 14°Cp46'D 14°Cn46'D 6.3.2009 28°Cp51' 1°Aq38' 19°Cp47' 24°Le37'R 14°Cp47'D 14°Cn47'D 7.3.2009 29°Cp38' 3°Aq11' 20°Cp00' 24°Le32'R 14°Cp49'D 14°Cn49'D 8.3.2009 0°Aq25' 4°Aq45' 20°Cp13' 24°Le27'R 14°Cp50'D 14°Cn50'D 9.3.2009 1°Aq12' 6°Aq21' 20°Cp26' 24°Le22'R 14°Cp49' 14°Cn49' 10.3.2009 1°Aq59' 7°Aq57' 20°Cp39' 24°Le18'R 14°Cp46' 14°Cn46' 11.3.2009 2°Aq46' 9°Aq34' 20°Cp52' 24°Le13'R 14°Cp41' 14°Cn41' 12.3.2009 3°Aq33' 11°Aq13' 21°Cp05' 24°Le08'R 14°Cp35' 14°Cn35' 13.3.2009 4°Aq20' 12°Aq53' 21°Cp18' 24°Le03'R 14°Cp28' 14°Cn28' 14.3.2009 5°Aq07' 14°Aq34' 21°Cp31' 23°Le59'R 14°Cp20' 14°Cn20' 15.3.2009 5°Aq54' 16°Aq16' 21°Cp43' 23°Le54'R 14°Cp13' 14°Cn13' 16.3.2009 6°Aq41' 17°Aq59' 21°Cp56' 23°Le49'R 14°Cp07' 14°Cn07' 17.3.2009 7°Aq28' 19°Aq44' 22°Cp08' 23°Le44'R 14°Cp03' 14°Cn03' 18.3.2009 8°Aq15' 21°Aq29' 22°Cp21' 23°Le40'R 14°Cp01' 14°Cn01' 19.3.2009 9°Aq02' 23°Aq16' 22°Cp33' 23°Le35'R 14°Cp00'D 14°Cn00'D 20.3.2009 9°Aq49' 25°Aq04' 22°Cp45' 23°Le30'R 14°Cp01'D 14°Cn01'D 21.3.2009 10°Aq36' 26°Aq54' 22°Cp57' 23°Le26'R 14°Cp02'D 14°Cn02'D 22.3.2009 11°Aq23' 28°Aq45' 23°Cp10' 23°Le21'R 14°Cp03'D 14°Cn03'D 23.3.2009 12°Aq10' 0°Pi37' 23°Cp22' 23°Le17'R 14°Cp02' 14°Cn02' 24.3.2009 12°Aq57' 2°Pi30' 23°Cp34' 23°Le12'R 14°Cp00' 14°Cn00' 25.3.2009 13°Aq44' 4°Pi24' 23°Cp46' 23°Le08'R 13°Cp54' 13°Cn54' 26.3.2009 14°Aq31' 6°Pi20' 23°Cp57' 23°Le03'R 13°Cp47' 13°Cn47' 27.3.2009 15°Aq18' 8°Pi17' 24°Cp09' 22°Le59'R 13°Cp38' 13°Cn38' 28.3.2009 16°Aq05' 10°Pi15' 24°Cp21' 22°Le54'R 13°Cp28' 13°Cn28' 29.3.2009 16°Aq52' 12°Pi14' 24°Cp32' 22°Le50'R 13°Cp18' 13°Cn18' 30.3.2009 17°Aq38' 14°Pi15' 24°Cp44' 22°Le46'R 13°Cp09' 13°Cn09' 31.3.2009 18°Aq25' 16°Pi16' 24°Cp55' 22°Le42'R 13°Cp02' 13°Cn02' Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:55:30 AMRe: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear Thor, It is better if you give this subject a break for a fortnight. Best wishes. - Cosmologer samva Monday, March 02, 2009 8:55 PM Stocks in US drop further Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition. cnn.com/2009/ BUSINESS/ 03/02/markets/ index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. Best wishes, Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Dear Armands, Thank you for the kind words and the analysis. Just a few points. Indeed, on SAMVA, the focus is on Systems' Approach (SA) astrology. As for your effort, the focus appears to be on the general nature of the planets. In SA, the functional nature of the planets is considered far more important and makes a big difference for the reading. The functional nature of the planets is determined by the house that the moolatrikona (MT) sign of each planet falls into. For example, in the Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart, the sign Aquarius falls in the 8th house. This makes Saturn, which is ruler of the MT sign Aquarius, the 8th lord. Hence it becomes a major functional malefic in the chart. Likewise, the general benefic Jupiter becomes 6th lord as the MT sign Sagittarius falls in the 6th house of the chart. Hence, Jupiter becomes a functional malefic in the chart. Rahu and Ketu are FMs for all ascendants. The rest of the planets in the Cancer rising chart become functional benefics, including Mars, which is considered a general malefic in traditional jyotish! For a comprehensive definition of functional rulership you can go to 's web page which contains a lot of useful and free study material. http://www.yournetastrologer.com/ His books are also invaluable in this regard. After studying this material, perhaps you would like to try your hand at analysing the transits in terms of SA and discuss it here. Good luck with the studies and feel free to ask questions on points of interpretation. Best wishes, Thor Armands Birins <abirinsSAMVA Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 1:55:13 PMRe: Stocks in US drop further Dear Thor, Your analysis ir brilliant, I can only learn from you how to apply SA method to analyzing kundalies. My trivial view is that when Guru will exit from neecha Makaram rashi (from May-till the end of July) to Kumbha then with 7 dristi to 2 bhava it will give some market correction UP...because people wealth should be increased...a lot of people will jump into market, prices will go up, etc. When Guru will become vakri and return in neecha in Makara rashi then he will realize his main duty - to bring bad carma related wealth...wealth should be wiped out and only minimum people should benefit from the market, prices will go down and it will be massive bear market. Situation should improve gradually with steps wich include Saturn exit from 2 bhava, Ke from Lagna and Gu return to Kumbha. I only should learn how to apply SA analysis to above mentioned Wishes to everybody armands On 3/2/09, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Armands, Good question. As you will know, it is difficult to predict short term moves in share prices. They reflect so many things. However, let us look at the key challenging transits ahead in 2009 to see what they may suggest for the US financial market going forward. Overall it seems they may serve to keep situation in the stock market subdued for most of this year. Let me review the basic factors. Saturn sub-period is operating within the Venus major period in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union). This makes Saturn most important for reading the trends in the economy until April 2012. Saturn is natally strong, which is good for its indications. However, as Saturn afflicts the Sun as 2nd lord of wealth we can expect this period not to be so good for the progress of wealth in the country. This is more so as Saturn is also 8th lord in the chart. The periods of functional malefic planets are normally considered less auspicious than those of functional benefic planets. Now lets look at important transit contacts in the chart, which suggest the significant events: 8th lord Saturn will become conjunct the most effective point of the 2nd house at 20° 00' Leo from April to June 2009. The conjunction is within 1° orb in May 2009. Fortunately, the aspect never becomes exact, reducing the impact. Moreover, transit Sun, as dispositor of Saturn and owner of the 2nd house, will mostly be strong in transit at this time, protecting its indications. Nevertheless, this would place strain on the wealth and status of the country. From September 2009 Saturn will be in the sign Virgo and 3rd house, a sun-like house, where it gains 25% additional strength (on top of the strength otherwise derived). This is the only house that is not afflicted in the horoscope. Moreover, as Mercury is fairly strong and well placed natally in the chart, Saturn will be reasonably strong there. That said, Mercury in transit is alternating frequently between strength and weakness and this would make the indications of Saturn somewhat tender. FMs Rahu and Ketu will become stationary at 6° 20' Capricorn and Cancer, respectively, from May to July 2009, where transit Rahu afflicts natal 1st lord Moon at 7° 19' Taurus and 11th house. This would place a strain on the self image of the Americans. 10th lord Mars will pass through the sign Gemini and 12th house in the first half of July 2009, which will reduce the confidence of investors. 2nd lord Sun will pass through Gemini and the 12th house from mid June until mid July 2009, adding to the concerns. 6th lord Jupiter will remain weak in transit for the next 14 months which suggests financial stability will remain fragile for all of tha time. In early May 2009 Jupiter moves from its sign of debilitation Capricorn to Aquarius and the 8th house. In August 2009 it moves back into Capricorn and then enters Aquarius again in December 2009 and moves fairly quickly through the 8th house until May 2010. Moreover, from September to November 2009 transit Jupiter will become stationary at 23° 30' Capricorn where it will closely afflict natal 2nd lord Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. This suggests acute strain from the weak financial stability which will weigh heavily on the wealth and status of the country. The President and highly placed politicians may become caught up in controversy or conflict. All of the above suggests that the situation will remain volatile for most of this year. There will likely be some improvement in the Autumn when Saturn, the sub-period lord, moves into Virgo. This has earlier been pointed out by . However, the aspect of transit Jupiter to the lord of wealth will likely keep the pressure on until mid November 2009. There will be some periods in between that the pressure is less and at those times the market may possibly do better. In other words, I am not seeing indications for the stock market to turn bullish before then. Importantly, I am also not saying the market will turn bullish after that time either. I plan to look at the transits going beyond that time later. I´d be interested in the views of other list members on this issue. Best wishes, Thor Armands Birins <abirinsSAMVA Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 6:47:18 PMRe: Stocks in US drop further Dear Thor, Situation looks very bearish. To your opinion, when the US market will turn to bullish side? armands On 3/2/09, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/03/02/markets/index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Dear Thor, Thank you for your assistance helping to understand SA. I already have got all books by Prof.Choudhry and hope that after some time will be ready start analyzing according to SA. Wishes, armands On 3/3/09, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Armands, Thank you for the kind words and the analysis. Just a few points. Indeed, on SAMVA, the focus is on Systems' Approach (SA) astrology. As for your effort, the focus appears to be on the general nature of the planets. In SA, the functional nature of the planets is considered far more important and makes a big difference for the reading. The functional nature of the planets is determined by the house that the moolatrikona (MT) sign of each planet falls into. For example, in the Cancer rising SAMVA USA chart, the sign Aquarius falls in the 8th house. This makes Saturn, which is ruler of the MT sign Aquarius, the 8th lord. Hence it becomes a major functional malefic in the chart. Likewise, the general benefic Jupiter becomes 6th lord as the MT sign Sagittarius falls in the 6th house of the chart. Hence, Jupiter becomes a functional malefic in the chart. Rahu and Ketu are FMs for all ascendants. The rest of the planets in the Cancer rising chart become functional benefics, including Mars, which is considered a general malefic in traditional jyotish! For a comprehensive definition of functional rulership you can go to 's web page which contains a lot of useful and free study material. http://www.yournetastrologer.com/ His books are also invaluable in this regard. After studying this material, perhaps you would like to try your hand at analysing the transits in terms of SA and discuss it here. Good luck with the studies and feel free to ask questions on points of interpretation. Best wishes, Thor Armands Birins <abirinsSAMVA Tuesday, March 3, 2009 1:55:13 PM Re: Stocks in US drop further Dear Thor, Your analysis ir brilliant, I can only learn from you how to apply SA method to analyzing kundalies. My trivial view is that when Guru will exit from neecha Makaram rashi (from May-till the end of July) to Kumbha then with 7 dristi to 2 bhava it will give some market correction UP...because people wealth should be increased...a lot of people will jump into market, prices will go up, etc. When Guru will become vakri and return in neecha in Makara rashi then he will realize his main duty - to bring bad carma related wealth...wealth should be wiped out and only minimum people should benefit from the market, prices will go down and it will be massive bear market. Situation should improve gradually with steps wich include Saturn exit from 2 bhava, Ke from Lagna and Gu return to Kumbha. I only should learn how to apply SA analysis to above mentioned Wishes to everybody armands On 3/2/09, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Armands, Good question. As you will know, it is difficult to predict short term moves in share prices. They reflect so many things. However, let us look at the key challenging transits ahead in 2009 to see what they may suggest for the US financial market going forward. Overall it seems they may serve to keep situation in the stock market subdued for most of this year. Let me review the basic factors. Saturn sub-period is operating within the Venus major period in the SAMVA USA chart (Perpetual Union). This makes Saturn most important for reading the trends in the economy until April 2012. Saturn is natally strong, which is good for its indications. However, as Saturn afflicts the Sun as 2nd lord of wealth we can expect this period not to be so good for the progress of wealth in the country. This is more so as Saturn is also 8th lord in the chart. The periods of functional malefic planets are normally considered less auspicious than those of functional benefic planets. Now lets look at important transit contacts in the chart, which suggest the significant events: 8th lord Saturn will become conjunct the most effective point of the 2nd house at 20° 00' Leo from April to June 2009. The conjunction is within 1° orb in May 2009. Fortunately, the aspect never becomes exact, reducing the impact. Moreover, transit Sun, as dispositor of Saturn and owner of the 2nd house, will mostly be strong in transit at this time, protecting its indications. Nevertheless, this would place strain on the wealth and status of the country. From September 2009 Saturn will be in the sign Virgo and 3rd house, a sun-like house, where it gains 25% additional strength (on top of the strength otherwise derived). This is the only house that is not afflicted in the horoscope. Moreover, as Mercury is fairly strong and well placed natally in the chart, Saturn will be reasonably strong there. That said, Mercury in transit is alternating frequently between strength and weakness and this would make the indications of Saturn somewhat tender. FMs Rahu and Ketu will become stationary at 6° 20' Capricorn and Cancer, respectively, from May to July 2009, where transit Rahu afflicts natal 1st lord Moon at 7° 19' Taurus and 11th house. This would place a strain on the self image of the Americans. 10th lord Mars will pass through the sign Gemini and 12th house in the first half of July 2009, which will reduce the confidence of investors. 2nd lord Sun will pass through Gemini and the 12th house from mid June until mid July 2009, adding to the concerns. 6th lord Jupiter will remain weak in transit for the next 14 months which suggests financial stability will remain fragile for all of tha time. In early May 2009 Jupiter moves from its sign of debilitation Capricorn to Aquarius and the 8th house. In August 2009 it moves back into Capricorn and then enters Aquarius again in December 2009 and moves fairly quickly through the 8th house until May 2010. Moreover, from September to November 2009 transit Jupiter will become stationary at 23° 30' Capricorn where it will closely afflict natal 2nd lord Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. This suggests acute strain from the weak financial stability which will weigh heavily on the wealth and status of the country. The President and highly placed politicians may become caught up in controversy or conflict. All of the above suggests that the situation will remain volatile for most of this year. There will likely be some improvement in the Autumn when Saturn, the sub-period lord, moves into Virgo. This has earlier been pointed out by . However, the aspect of transit Jupiter to the lord of wealth will likely keep the pressure on until mid November 2009. There will be some periods in between that the pressure is less and at those times the market may possibly do better. In other words, I am not seeing indications for the stock market to turn bullish before then. Importantly, I am also not saying the market will turn bullish after that time either. I plan to look at the transits going beyond that time later. I´d be interested in the views of other list members on this issue. Best wishes, Thor Armands Birins <abirins SAMVA Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 6:47:18 PM Re: Stocks in US drop further Dear Thor, Situation looks very bearish. To your opinion, when the US market will turn to bullish side? armands On 3/2/09, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/03/02/markets/index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Hello Jolastro, There is clear message in my reply. If you want, you may follow that. The approach of questioning everything seldom pays. And I certainly do not have time for such things. Best wishes. - Astro Zem SAMVA Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:55 PM Re : Stocks in US drop further Thank you for your answer, Professor.In order to clarify completly my understanding I need to know if transit of 8L is always more intense than 6L one, or if it also depend on the sub-period. In others words, if 6L Jupiter would have been the sub-period lord, would its transit on the Sun have given more strain than the transit of Saturn on Mars ?Best wishes,Jolastro De : SIHA <vkchoudhry >À : SAMVA Envoyé le : Mardi, 3 Mars 2009, 16h06mn 28sObjet : Re: Stocks in US drop further Hello Jolastro, The transit of 8L is more intense than the transit of 6L. Best wishes. - Astro Zem SAMVA Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:23 PM Re : Stocks in US drop further Dear Professor,If you allow me a technical question about transit in USA chart: is there a difference in intensity of strain caused by transit Saturn on natal Mars and transit Jupiter on natal Sun ? I mean, both transits will be exact and stationnary, but in the first case it is the transit of the sub-period itself, and in the other case it is the transit of another FM on a planet aspected by the sub-period lord in the natal chart.Best wishes,Jolastro De : SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Ŕ : SAMVA Envoyé le : Mardi, 3 Mars 2009, 7h46mn 40sObjet : Re: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear Thor, Best wishes. - Cosmologer SAMVA Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:54 AM Re: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear , Yes, we can do that. Wikipedia defines the fortnight as "a unit of time equivalent to fourteen days" or two weeks. The present nodal station begins to lift around March 12, at which time the situation should gradually begin to ease and become clearer to comprehend. Mars Mercury Jupiter Saturn Rahu Ketu 3.3.2009 26°Cp30' 27°Cp06' 19°Cp08' 24°Le51'R 14°Cp47' 14°Cn47' 4.3.2009 27°Cp17' 28°Cp36' 19°Cp21' 24°Le46'R 14°Cp46' 14°Cn46' 5.3.2009 28°Cp04' 0°Aq07' 19°Cp34' 24°Le41'R 14°Cp46'D 14°Cn46'D 6.3.2009 28°Cp51' 1°Aq38' 19°Cp47' 24°Le37'R 14°Cp47'D 14°Cn47'D 7.3.2009 29°Cp38' 3°Aq11' 20°Cp00' 24°Le32'R 14°Cp49'D 14°Cn49'D 8.3.2009 0°Aq25' 4°Aq45' 20°Cp13' 24°Le27'R 14°Cp50'D 14°Cn50'D 9.3.2009 1°Aq12' 6°Aq21' 20°Cp26' 24°Le22'R 14°Cp49' 14°Cn49' 10.3.2009 1°Aq59' 7°Aq57' 20°Cp39' 24°Le18'R 14°Cp46' 14°Cn46' 11.3.2009 2°Aq46' 9°Aq34' 20°Cp52' 24°Le13'R 14°Cp41' 14°Cn41' 12.3.2009 3°Aq33' 11°Aq13' 21°Cp05' 24°Le08'R 14°Cp35' 14°Cn35' 13.3.2009 4°Aq20' 12°Aq53' 21°Cp18' 24°Le03'R 14°Cp28' 14°Cn28' 14.3.2009 5°Aq07' 14°Aq34' 21°Cp31' 23°Le59'R 14°Cp20' 14°Cn20' 15..3.2009 5°Aq54' 16°Aq16' 21°Cp43' 23°Le54'R 14°Cp13' 14°Cn13' 16.3.2009 6°Aq41' 17°Aq59' 21°Cp56' 23°Le49'R 14°Cp07' 14°Cn07' 17.3.2009 7°Aq28' 19°Aq44' 22°Cp08' 23°Le44'R 14°Cp03' 14°Cn03' 18.3.2009 8°Aq15' 21°Aq29' 22°Cp21' 23°Le40'R 14°Cp01' 14°Cn01' 19.3.2009 9°Aq02' 23°Aq16' 22°Cp33' 23°Le35'R 14°Cp00'D 14°Cn00'D 20.3.2009 9°Aq49' 25°Aq04' 22°Cp45' 23°Le30'R 14°Cp01'D 14°Cn01'D 21.3.2009 10°Aq36' 26°Aq54' 22°Cp57' 23°Le26'R 14°Cp02'D 14°Cn02'D 22.3.2009 11°Aq23' 28°Aq45' 23°Cp10' 23°Le21'R 14°Cp03'D 14°Cn03'D 23.3.2009 12°Aq10' 0°Pi37' 23°Cp22' 23°Le17'R 14°Cp02' 14°Cn02' 24.3.2009 12°Aq57' 2°Pi30' 23°Cp34' 23°Le12'R 14°Cp00' 14°Cn00' 25..3.2009 13°Aq44' 4°Pi24' 23°Cp46' 23°Le08'R 13°Cp54' 13°Cn54' 26.3.2009 14°Aq31' 6°Pi20' 23°Cp57' 23°Le03'R 13°Cp47' 13°Cn47' 27.3.2009 15°Aq18' 8°Pi17' 24°Cp09' 22°Le59'R 13°Cp38' 13°Cn38' 28.3.2009 16°Aq05' 10°Pi15' 24°Cp21' 22°Le54'R 13°Cp28' 13°Cn28' 29.3.2009 16°Aq52' 12°Pi14' 24°Cp32' 22°Le50'R 13°Cp18' 13°Cn18' 30..3.2009 17°Aq38' 14°Pi15' 24°Cp44' 22°Le46'R 13°Cp09' 13°Cn09' 31.3.2009 18°Aq25' 16°Pi16' 24°Cp55' 22°Le42'R 13°Cp02' 13°Cn02' Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com>SAMVA Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:55:30 AMRe: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear Thor, It is better if you give this subject a break for a fortnight. Best wishes. - Cosmologer samva Monday, March 02, 2009 8:55 PM Stocks in US drop further Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion.. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition. cnn.com/2009/ BUSINESS/ 03/02/markets/ index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. 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Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 My dear and list members, On March 3, 2009, when the stock market was in a slump, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average having fallen to 6,920, you suggested we give a discussion of the stock market a break for a fortnight, or 2 weeks (until after the nodal station lifted). While there are still difficult transits in the SAMVA USA chart, the US stock market has staged a mini-rally in recent days. Yesterday, the Dow had risen to 7,776, or over 12%. That said, you have earlier warned that the US stock market would remain volatile in coming months, notably due to the conjunction of transit 8th lord Saturn and the 20° Leo most effective point of the 2nd house of wealth. This week, the conjunction of transit 6th lord (debts) Jupiter becomes exact with the 2nd lord Sun. Yesterday, the actions of the Obama administration to remove bad debts of the balance sheets of US banks gave the market a reason to rally. This step is seen as important to restore the banks to normal conditions so that they can resume LENDING, and the household and firms can resume SPENDING. Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:55:30 AMRe: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear Thor, It is better if you give this subject a break for a fortnight. Best wishes. - Cosmologer samva Monday, March 02, 2009 8:55 PM Stocks in US drop further Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition. cnn.com/2009/ BUSINESS/ 03/02/markets/ index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. Best wishes, Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 My dear , You are most welcome. Thank you for sharing your insights on the situation and congratulations for the correct assessment and predictions. Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhrySAMVA Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:51:17 AMRe: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear Thor, Thanks for the updates and bringing to the notice of the list how the planetary influences are showing expected results in USA Samva chart. Best wishes. - Cosmologer SAMVA Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:48 PM Re: Stocks in US drop further My dear and list members, On March 3, 2009, when the stock market was in a slump, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average having fallen to 6,920, you suggested we give a discussion of the stock market a break for a fortnight, or 2 weeks (until after the nodal station lifted). While there are still difficult transits in the SAMVA USA chart, the US stock market has staged a mini-rally in recent days. Yesterday, the Dow had risen to 7,776, or over 12%. That said, you have earlier warned that the US stock market would remain volatile in coming months, notably due to the conjunction of transit 8th lord Saturn and the 20° Leo most effective point of the 2nd house of wealth. This week, the conjunction of transit 6th lord (debts) Jupiter becomes exact with the 2nd lord Sun. Yesterday, the actions of the Obama administration to remove bad debts of the balance sheets of US banks gave the market a reason to rally. This step is seen as important to restore the banks to normal conditions so that they can resume LENDING, and the household and firms can resume SPENDING. Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com>SAMVA Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:55:30 AMRe: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear Thor, It is better if you give this subject a break for a fortnight. Best wishes. - Cosmologer samva Monday, March 02, 2009 8:55 PM Stocks in US drop further Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition. cnn.com/2009/ BUSINESS/ 03/02/markets/ index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. Best wishes, Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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