Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Dear Professor,If you allow me a technical question about transit in USA chart: is there a difference in intensity of strain caused by transit Saturn on natal Mars and transit Jupiter on natal Sun ? I mean, both transits will be exact and stationnary, but in the first case it is the transit of the sub-period itself, and in the other case it is the transit of another FM on a planet aspected by the sub-period lord in the natal chart.Best wishes,JolastroDe : SIHA <vkchoudhryÀ : SAMVA Envoyé le : Mardi, 3 Mars 2009, 7h46mn 40sObjet : Re: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear Thor, Best wishes. - Cosmologer SAMVA Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:54 AM Re: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear , Yes, we can do that. Wikipedia defines the fortnight as "a unit of time equivalent to fourteen days" or two weeks. The present nodal station begins to lift around March 12, at which time the situation should gradually begin to ease and become clearer to comprehend. Mars Mercury Jupiter Saturn Rahu Ketu 3.3.2009 26°Cp30' 27°Cp06' 19°Cp08' 24°Le51'R 14°Cp47' 14°Cn47' 4.3.2009 27°Cp17' 28°Cp36' 19°Cp21' 24°Le46'R 14°Cp46' 14°Cn46' 5.3.2009 28°Cp04' 0°Aq07' 19°Cp34' 24°Le41'R 14°Cp46'D 14°Cn46'D 6.3.2009 28°Cp51' 1°Aq38' 19°Cp47' 24°Le37'R 14°Cp47'D 14°Cn47'D 7.3.2009 29°Cp38' 3°Aq11' 20°Cp00' 24°Le32'R 14°Cp49'D 14°Cn49'D 8.3.2009 0°Aq25' 4°Aq45' 20°Cp13' 24°Le27'R 14°Cp50'D 14°Cn50'D 9.3.2009 1°Aq12' 6°Aq21' 20°Cp26' 24°Le22'R 14°Cp49' 14°Cn49' 10.3.2009 1°Aq59' 7°Aq57' 20°Cp39' 24°Le18'R 14°Cp46' 14°Cn46' 11.3.2009 2°Aq46' 9°Aq34' 20°Cp52' 24°Le13'R 14°Cp41' 14°Cn41' 12.3.2009 3°Aq33' 11°Aq13' 21°Cp05' 24°Le08'R 14°Cp35' 14°Cn35' 13.3.2009 4°Aq20' 12°Aq53' 21°Cp18' 24°Le03'R 14°Cp28' 14°Cn28' 14.3.2009 5°Aq07' 14°Aq34' 21°Cp31' 23°Le59'R 14°Cp20' 14°Cn20' 15.3.2009 5°Aq54' 16°Aq16' 21°Cp43' 23°Le54'R 14°Cp13' 14°Cn13' 16.3.2009 6°Aq41' 17°Aq59' 21°Cp56' 23°Le49'R 14°Cp07' 14°Cn07' 17.3.2009 7°Aq28' 19°Aq44' 22°Cp08' 23°Le44'R 14°Cp03' 14°Cn03' 18.3.2009 8°Aq15' 21°Aq29' 22°Cp21' 23°Le40'R 14°Cp01' 14°Cn01' 19.3.2009 9°Aq02' 23°Aq16' 22°Cp33' 23°Le35'R 14°Cp00'D 14°Cn00'D 20.3.2009 9°Aq49' 25°Aq04' 22°Cp45' 23°Le30'R 14°Cp01'D 14°Cn01'D 21.3.2009 10°Aq36' 26°Aq54' 22°Cp57' 23°Le26'R 14°Cp02'D 14°Cn02'D 22.3.2009 11°Aq23' 28°Aq45' 23°Cp10' 23°Le21'R 14°Cp03'D 14°Cn03'D 23.3.2009 12°Aq10' 0°Pi37' 23°Cp22' 23°Le17'R 14°Cp02' 14°Cn02' 24.3.2009 12°Aq57' 2°Pi30' 23°Cp34' 23°Le12'R 14°Cp00' 14°Cn00' 25.3.2009 13°Aq44' 4°Pi24' 23°Cp46' 23°Le08'R 13°Cp54' 13°Cn54' 26.3.2009 14°Aq31' 6°Pi20' 23°Cp57' 23°Le03'R 13°Cp47' 13°Cn47' 27.3.2009 15°Aq18' 8°Pi17' 24°Cp09' 22°Le59'R 13°Cp38' 13°Cn38' 28.3.2009 16°Aq05' 10°Pi15' 24°Cp21' 22°Le54'R 13°Cp28' 13°Cn28' 29.3.2009 16°Aq52' 12°Pi14' 24°Cp32' 22°Le50'R 13°Cp18' 13°Cn18' 30..3.2009 17°Aq38' 14°Pi15' 24°Cp44' 22°Le46'R 13°Cp09' 13°Cn09' 31.3.2009 18°Aq25' 16°Pi16' 24°Cp55' 22°Le42'R 13°Cp02' 13°Cn02' Best wishes, Thor SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com>SAMVA Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:55:30 AMRe: Stocks in US drop further Hello my dear Thor, It is better if you give this subject a break for a fortnight. Best wishes. - Cosmologer samva Monday, March 02, 2009 8:55 PM Stocks in US drop further Dear friends, The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2.04% NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion.. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. http://edition. cnn.com/2009/ BUSINESS/ 03/02/markets/ index.html Astrologically: - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Hello jolastro, The transits take precedence over planetary period. Transits can bring about significant events, while periods indicate trends. The transit influence of period lord becomes more important in that the event may be in line with the trend. That said, as explains, the malefic influence of 8th lord is always greater than that of the 6th lord. The order of maleficience is as follows 1. 8th lord (and Rahu and Ketu) 2. 12th lord 3. 6th lord Of course, analysis of the influence of the above planets in a natal chart is highly important for interpreting their influence in transit. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , Astro Zem <zemastro wrote: > > > Thank you for your answer, Professor. > > In order to clarify completly my understanding I need to know if transit of 8L is always more intense than 6L one, or if it also depend on the sub-period. In others words, if 6L Jupiter would have been the sub-period lord, would its transit on the Sun have given more strain than the transit of Saturn on Mars ? > > Best wishes, > Jolastro ________________________________ > De : SIHA <vkchoudhry > À : SAMVA > Envoyé le : Mardi, 3 Mars 2009, 16h06mn 28s > Objet : Re: Stocks in US drop further > > > Hello Jolastro, > > The transit of 8L is more intense than the transit > of 6L. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > Astro Zem > SAMVA > Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:23 PM > Re : Stocks in US drop further > > > Dear Professor, > > If you allow me a technical question about transit in USA chart: is there a difference in intensity of strain caused by transit Saturn on natal Mars and transit Jupiter on natal Sun ? I mean, both transits will be exact and stationnary, but in the first case it is the transit of the sub-period itself, and in the other case it is the transit of another FM on a planet aspected by the sub-period lord in the natal chart. > > Best wishes, > Jolastro ________________________________ > De : SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > Š" : SAMVA > Envoyé le : Mardi, 3 Mars 2009, 7h46mn 40s > Objet : Re: Stocks in US drop further > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > Best wishes. > > V K Choudhry > > ----- Original Message ----- > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:54 AM > Re: Stocks in US drop further > > Hello my dear , > > Yes, we can do that. > > Wikipedia defines the fortnight as " a unit of time equivalent to fourteen days " or two weeks. The present nodal station begins to lift around March 12, at which time the situation should gradually begin to ease and become clearer to comprehend. > > > Mars Mercury Jupiter Saturn Rahu Ketu > 3.3.2009 26°Cp30' 27°Cp06' 19°Cp08' 24°Le51'R 14°Cp47' 14° Cn47' > 4.3.2009 27°Cp17' 28°Cp36' 19°Cp21' 24°Le46'R 14°Cp46' 14° Cn46' > 5.3.2009 28°Cp04' 0°Aq07' 19°Cp34' 24°Le41'R 14°Cp46'D 14° Cn46'D > 6..3.2009 28°Cp51' 1°Aq38' 19°Cp47' 24°Le37'R 14°Cp47'D 14° Cn47'D > 7.3.2009 29°Cp38' 3°Aq11' 20°Cp00' 24°Le32'R 14°Cp49'D 14° Cn49'D > 8.3.2009 0°Aq25' 4°Aq45' 20°Cp13' 24°Le27'R 14°Cp50'D 14° Cn50'D > 9.3.2009 1°Aq12' 6°Aq21' 20°Cp26' 24°Le22'R 14°Cp49' 14°Cn49' > 10.3.2009 1°Aq59' 7°Aq57' 20°Cp39' 24°Le18'R 14°Cp46' 14° Cn46' > 11.3.2009 2°Aq46' 9°Aq34' 20°Cp52' 24°Le13'R 14°Cp41' 14° Cn41' > 12.3.2009 3°Aq33' 11°Aq13' 21°Cp05' 24°Le08'R 14°Cp35' 14° Cn35' > 13.3.2009 4°Aq20' 12°Aq53' 21°Cp18' 24°Le03'R 14°Cp28' 14° Cn28' > 14.3.2009 5°Aq07' 14°Aq34' 21°Cp31' 23°Le59'R 14°Cp20' 14° Cn20' > 15.3.2009 5°Aq54' 16°Aq16' 21°Cp43' 23°Le54'R 14°Cp13' 14° Cn13' > 16..3.2009 6°Aq41' 17°Aq59' 21°Cp56' 23°Le49'R 14°Cp07' 14° Cn07' > 17.3.2009 7°Aq28' 19°Aq44' 22°Cp08' 23°Le44'R 14°Cp03' 14° Cn03' > 18.3.2009 8°Aq15' 21°Aq29' 22°Cp21' 23°Le40'R 14°Cp01' 14° Cn01' > 19.3.2009 9°Aq02' 23°Aq16' 22°Cp33' 23°Le35'R 14°Cp00'D 14° Cn00'D > 20.3.2009 9°Aq49' 25°Aq04' 22°Cp45' 23°Le30'R 14°Cp01'D 14° Cn01'D > 21.3.2009 10°Aq36' 26°Aq54' 22°Cp57' 23°Le26'R 14°Cp02'D 14° Cn02'D > 22.3.2009 11°Aq23' 28°Aq45' 23°Cp10' 23°Le21'R 14°Cp03'D 14° Cn03'D > 23.3.2009 12°Aq10' 0°Pi37' 23°Cp22' 23°Le17'R 14°Cp02' 14° Cn02' > 24.3.2009 12°Aq57' 2°Pi30' 23°Cp34' 23°Le12'R 14°Cp00' 14° Cn00' > 25.3.2009 13°Aq44' 4°Pi24' 23°Cp46' 23°Le08'R 13°Cp54' 13° Cn54' > 26.3.2009 14°Aq31' 6°Pi20' 23°Cp57' 23°Le03'R 13°Cp47' 13° Cn47' > 27.3.2009 15°Aq18' 8°Pi17' 24°Cp09' 22°Le59'R 13°Cp38' 13° Cn38' > 28.3.2009 16°Aq05' 10°Pi15' 24°Cp21' 22°Le54'R 13°Cp28' 13° Cn28' > 29.3.2009 16°Aq52' 12°Pi14' 24°Cp32' 22°Le50'R 13°Cp18' 13° Cn18' > 30..3.2009 17°Aq38' 14°Pi15' 24°Cp44' 22°Le46'R 13°Cp09' 13° Cn09' > 31.3.2009 18°Aq25' 16°Pi16' 24°Cp55' 22°Le42'R 13°Cp02' 13° Cn02' > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > > ________________________________ > SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > SAMVA > Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:55:30 AM > Re: Stocks in US drop further > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > It is better if you give this subject a break for a fortnight. > > Best wishes. > > V K Choudhry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Cosmologer > samva > Monday, March 02, 2009 8:55 PM > Stocks in US drop further > > Dear friends, > > The outlook for the US economy is quite dim at the moment and the stock market is being pummeled ever lower. > > Breaking News: Dow Jones falls below 7,000 points barrier as AIG's massive losses weigh heavily on market. > > Mar 2, 2009 | 10:09AM US Market Open > DJIA 6920.2 -142.73 -2.02% > S & P 720.12 -14.97 -2..04% > NASDAQ 1360.63 -17.21 -1.25% > > Dow slides below 7,000; AIG takes $62B hit > March 2, 2009 -- Updated 1451 GMT (2251 HKT) > Wall Street was braced for fresh punishment Monday with the benchmark Dow Jones sliding below 7,000 points straight off the opening bell after U.S. insurance giant AIG revealed monumental quarterly losses of $62 billion.. Earlier, world markets dived as global banking group HSBC announced a record $17.7 billion cash call. > http://edition. cnn.com/2009/ BUSINESS/ 03/02/markets/ index.html > > Astrologically: > - SATURN sub-period within the Venus major period is operating. The focus is on the indications of Saturn in the national life. Saturn rules the economy, working people, civil servants, traditional low tech activities, etc. > - transit 8th lord SATURN at 24° 53' is now both under aspect from natal Saturn at 26° 46' and in the MEP of the 2nd house, afflicting also houses 4 (fixed assets and communal harmony), 8 (easy gains) and 11 (income). The indications of the 4th house are especially vulnerable at this time, due to the natal weakness of Venus. The transit strength of Venus in the 9th house, gives some off-set at this time. > - nodal axis at 14° 48' Capricorn and Cancer is now disturbing natal 3rd lord MERCURY at 12° 05' Capricorn, undermining confidence, especially as also > - transit 3rd lord MERCURY and transit 10th lord MARS, both the main indicators of courage and investor sentiments, are at 26° 34' and 26° 13' Capricorn respectively, where they both receive the exact affliction by natal Saturn. > - transit 6th lord JUPITER, ruling financial stability and financial institutions, at 19° 03' Capricorn is closely afflicting the MEP of the 7th house at 20° 00' Capricorn, as well as house 11 (income), 1 (self) and 3 (courage). The 3rd house is especially vulnerable due to transit affliction of Mercury. > - transit Sun at 18° 11' Aquarius and 8th house is exactly afflicted by natal Ketu at 17° 47' Libra and 4th house. > > In sum, the transits in the SAMVA USA chart are all-round difficult. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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