Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Dear Thor, The stock markets in the USA have rallied in the last three days with these negatives: 1) LO2, L11, and LO3 (Mercury, general significator of the stock markets) in the 8H of obstructions with the Sun (ultimate dispositor in old age) 2) LO6 exactly afflicts H1, H7, H11 and H3, but was separating 3) LO6 closely conjunct natal LO2 (increasingly troublesome) 4) Rahu closely conjunct natal Mercury (increasing volatility). 5) Saturn is closely conjunct the 2H (not particularly critical) The positives: 1) Venus is on the MEP of the 9H 2) Natal Mars aspect to tr Mercury 3) Moon through the 3H. It appears to me that the negative outweigh the positives. I was expecting some upside next week with the Sun's transit through the 9H. However, it looks like some earlier relief. Tomorrow we find the Moon in the 4H, increasing in strength into the day's end. It's in better strength and placed in the house ruling the masses - even more strength tomorrow? We'll see. Best regards, Vyas Munidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Dear Thor, Often posts to the list regarding the stock market has the underlying assumption, nay tone, that it is 'the metric' of the national chart. Overall there is improvement in the chart and there's more to come next week. The affliction by Jupiter was short lived and the long stay of Venus on the 9/3H MEP are reasons for optimism in the USA. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Cosmologer " <cosmologer <SAMVA > Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:58 PM Re: Stock Market Dear Vyas, The focus on asset prices is interesting because they tend to incorporate a lot of information about what determines profits of firms and what investors think will happen in the near future. Nevertheless, we should not assume asset prices are a complete indicator of what is going on in the national life, which the transits in the national chart explain. As for the asset prices, in my experience, it is easy sometimes to focus more on the daily direction or the change of asset prices. But we should not lose sight of the level of asset prices, whether they are high, average or low. During difficult transits, asset prices may be driven down to low levels. Since Autumn 2008 the aspects in the SAMVA USA chart have been quite difficult and the stock prices have been mercilessly pounded down to new lows. The transits are now somewhat easier in terms of major afflictions being less. As a result, there is some relief in terms of partial recovery from the earlier drop. Nevertheless the situation remains difficult. In sum, the change or direction of movement is important but also the levels. Even then, difficulty seen in terms of transit afflictions in the chart may manifest in other ways, in some difficulty that is not perhaps fully reflected in the asset prices. Best wishes, Thor ________________________________ Vyas Munidas <muni> SAMVA Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:10:05 PM Stock Market Dear Thor, The stock markets in the USA have rallied in the last three days with these negatives: 1) LO2, L11, and LO3 (Mercury, general significator of the stock markets) in the 8H of obstructions with the Sun (ultimate dispositor in old age) 2) LO6 exactly afflicts H1, H7, H11 and H3, but was separating 3) LO6 closely conjunct natal LO2 (increasingly troublesome) 4) Rahu closely conjunct natal Mercury (increasing volatility). 5) Saturn is closely conjunct the 2H (not particularly critical) The positives: 1) Venus is on the MEP of the 9H 2) Natal Mars aspect to tr Mercury 3) Moon through the 3H. It appears to me that the negative outweigh the positives. I was expecting some upside next week with the Sun's transit through the 9H. However, it looks like some earlier relief. Tomorrow we find the Moon in the 4H, increasing in strength into the day's end. It's in better strength and placed in the house ruling the masses - even more strength tomorrow? We'll see. Best regards, Vyas Munidas --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Dear Vyas, You are very right that share prices are in some sense a 'metric'. My point is only that they should be interpreted with caution. In my view, there are two key nuances to keep in mind with respect to interpreting the birth chart in terms of share price movement: 1) consider daily 'change' in terms of 'level'. 2) share prices are not a complete 'metric' of period/transit influences. As we are discussing the philosophy of astrology, we could recall the general observation that astrology is first and last a spiritual science. It has evolved to help us understand and manage the 'law of karma' in life and most importantly through the 'grace of God'. The approach to view it in some sense as a 'mechanical law' of causation therefore has its limits. Yes the conjunction of transit of 4th lord Venus with the MEP of the 9th house in the SAMVA USA chart is in principle helpful. However, we should also keep in view its natal weakness (it is placed in the 6th house, which also is afflicted by natal Rahu) which limits its positive influence in transit. On the upside, when transit 2nd lord Sun emerges from the 8th house, things could improve to some extent. However, as you have noted, the transit of 6th lord Jupiter over the MEP of the 7th house and now natal 2nd lord Sun, as well as the transit of the two indicators of courage in the chart, Mars and 3rd lord Mercury, with also the nodes now coming into aspect with their natal placements, could keep investor sentiments jumpy. We'll see. Best wishes, Thor Vyas Munidas <muni>SAMVA Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:21:30 AMRe: Stock MarketDear Thor,Often posts to the list regarding the stock market has the underlying assumption, nay tone, that it is 'the metric' of the national chart.Overall there is improvement in the chart and there's more to come next week. The affliction by Jupiter was short lived and the long stay of Venus on the 9/3H MEP are reasons for optimism in the USA.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Cosmologer" <cosmologer<SAMVA >Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:58 PMRe: Stock MarketDear Vyas,The focus on asset prices is interesting because they tend to incorporate a lot of information about what determines profits of firms and what investors think will happen in the near future. Nevertheless, we should not assume asset prices are a complete indicator of what is going on in the national life, which the transits in the national chart explain.As for the asset prices, in my experience, it is easy sometimes to focus more on the daily direction or the change of asset prices. But we should not lose sight of the level of asset prices, whether they are high, average or low. During difficult transits, asset prices may be driven down to low levels. Since Autumn 2008 the aspects in the SAMVA USA chart have been quite difficult and the stock prices have been mercilessly pounded down to new lows. The transits are now somewhat easier in terms of major afflictions being less. As a result, there is some relief in terms of partial recovery from the earlier drop. Nevertheless the situation remains difficult.In sum, the change or direction of movement is important but also the levels. Even then, difficulty seen in terms of transit afflictions in the chart may manifest in other ways, in some difficulty that is not perhaps fully reflected in the asset prices.Best wishes,Thor________________________________Vyas Munidas <muni>SAMVA Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:10:05 PM Stock MarketDear Thor,The stock markets in the USA have rallied in the last three days with thesenegatives:1) LO2, L11, and LO3 (Mercury, general significator of the stock markets) inthe 8H of obstructions with the Sun (ultimate dispositor in old age)2) LO6 exactly afflicts H1, H7, H11 and H3, but was separating3) LO6 closely conjunct natal LO2 (increasingly troublesome)4) Rahu closely conjunct natal Mercury (increasing volatility).5) Saturn is closely conjunct the 2H (not particularly critical)The positives:1) Venus is on the MEP of the 9H2) Natal Mars aspect to tr Mercury3) Moon through the 3H.It appears to me that the negative outweigh the positives. I was expectingsome upside next week with the Sun's transit through the 9H. However, itlooks like some earlier relief.Tomorrow we find the Moon in the 4H, increasing in strength into the day'send. It's in better strength and placed in the house ruling the masses -even more strength tomorrow? We'll see.Best regards,Vyas Munidas--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Hello, You may study the sign Virgo: http://www.yournetastrologer.com/learn_astrology77.htm You may also study the list of mundane indications. including for Mercury, the MT ruler of Virgo, in the document MUNDANE ASTROLOGY.doc at SAMVA As Mercury owns the 3rd (communication, transportation) and 6th signs (health, analysis) of the zodiac, you may also consider these indications. Best wishes, Thor Peter P <peterannarborSAMVA Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:15:33 PMRe: Stock Market What stock market sectors are represented by Virgo Sign? Please reply. Thank you. Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:02:24 AMRe: Stock Market Dear Vyas, One more point. We can also recall the prediction of made last year that the stock market could improve somewhat from February 2009. Moreover, he subsequently suggested things would turn easier from the autumn of 2009. DIRE EMERGENCY CANCELLED: Obama Declares: Economic crisis 'not as bad as we think'...Retail sales not as bad as feared... Citi doesn't need more government capital: Parsons Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:24pm EDT WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Citigroup Inc Chairman Richard Parsons said on Thursday that the bank does not need any more capital injections from the government and expressed confidence that Citi would remain in private hands. Asked in an interview with Reuters whether Citigroup needed additional government capital injections, Parsons said: "No, I think actually, particularly with the latest conversion.. . Citi is actually one of the better capitalized banks in the world." http://www.reuters. com/article/ newsOne/idUSTRE5 2B7SD20090312? sp=true Best wishes, Thor Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Friday, March 13, 2009 6:43:25 AMRe: Stock Market Dear Vyas, You are very right that share prices are in some sense a 'metric'. My point is only that they should be interpreted with caution. In my view, there are two key nuances to keep in mind with respect to interpreting the birth chart in terms of share price movement: 1) consider daily 'change' in terms of 'level'. 2) share prices are not a complete 'metric' of period/transit influences. As we are discussing the philosophy of astrology, we could recall the general observation that astrology is first and last a spiritual science. It has evolved to help us understand and manage the 'law of karma' in life and most importantly through the 'grace of God'. The approach to view it in some sense as a 'mechanical law' of causation therefore has its limits. Yes the conjunction of transit of 4th lord Venus with the MEP of the 9th house in the SAMVA USA chart is in principle helpful. However, we should also keep in view its natal weakness (it is placed in the 6th house, which also is afflicted by natal Rahu) which limits its positive influence in transit. On the upside, when transit 2nd lord Sun emerges from the 8th house, things could improve to some extent. However, as you have noted, the transit of 6th lord Jupiter over the MEP of the 7th house and now natal 2nd lord Sun, as well as the transit of the two indicators of courage in the chart, Mars and 3rd lord Mercury, with also the nodes now coming into aspect with their natal placements, could keep investor sentiments jumpy. We'll see. Best wishes, Thor Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com>SAMVA Friday, March 13, 2009 3:21:30 AMRe: Stock MarketDear Thor,Often posts to the list regarding the stock market has the underlying assumption, nay tone, that it is 'the metric' of the national chart.Overall there is improvement in the chart and there's more to come next week. The affliction by Jupiter was short lived and the long stay of Venus on the 9/3H MEP are reasons for optimism in the USA.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Cosmologer" <cosmologer (AT) (DOT) com><SAMVA >Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:58 PMRe: Stock MarketDear Vyas,The focus on asset prices is interesting because they tend to incorporate a lot of information about what determines profits of firms and what investors think will happen in the near future. Nevertheless, we should not assume asset prices are a complete indicator of what is going on in the national life, which the transits in the national chart explain.As for the asset prices, in my experience, it is easy sometimes to focus more on the daily direction or the change of asset prices. But we should not lose sight of the level of asset prices, whether they are high, average or low. During difficult transits, asset prices may be driven down to low levels. Since Autumn 2008 the aspects in the SAMVA USA chart have been quite difficult and the stock prices have been mercilessly pounded down to new lows. The transits are now somewhat easier in terms of major afflictions being less. As a result, there is some relief in terms of partial recovery from the earlier drop. Nevertheless the situation remains difficult.In sum, the change or direction of movement is important but also the levels. Even then, difficulty seen in terms of transit afflictions in the chart may manifest in other ways, in some difficulty that is not perhaps fully reflected in the asset prices.Best wishes,Thor____________ _________ _________ __Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com>SAMVA Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:10:05 PM Stock MarketDear Thor,The stock markets in the USA have rallied in the last three days with thesenegatives:1) LO2, L11, and LO3 (Mercury, general significator of the stock markets) inthe 8H of obstructions with the Sun (ultimate dispositor in old age)2) LO6 exactly afflicts H1, H7, H11 and H3, but was separating3) LO6 closely conjunct natal LO2 (increasingly troublesome)4) Rahu closely conjunct natal Mercury (increasing volatility).5) Saturn is closely conjunct the 2H (not particularly critical)The positives:1) Venus is on the MEP of the 9H2) Natal Mars aspect to tr Mercury3) Moon through the 3H.It appears to me that the negative outweigh the positives. I was expectingsome upside next week with the Sun's transit through the 9H. However, itlooks like some earlier relief.Tomorrow we find the Moon in the 4H, increasing in strength into the day'send. It's in better strength and placed in the house ruling the masses -even more strength tomorrow? We'll see.Best regards,Vyas Munidas------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Thank you so much Thor. Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:53:31 PMRe: Stock Market Hello, You may study the sign Virgo: http://www.yourneta strologer. com/learn_ astrology77. htm You may also study the list of mundane indications. including for Mercury, the MT ruler of Virgo, in the document MUNDANE ASTROLOGY.doc at http://groups. / group/SAMVA/ files/ As Mercury owns the 3rd (communication, transportation) and 6th signs (health, analysis) of the zodiac, you may also consider these indications. Best wishes, Thor Peter P <peterannarbor@ >SAMVA Monday, March 16, 2009 4:15:33 PMRe: Stock Market What stock market sectors are represented by Virgo Sign? Please reply. Thank you. Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Friday, March 13, 2009 3:02:24 AMRe: Stock Market Dear Vyas, One more point. We can also recall the prediction of made last year that the stock market could improve somewhat from February 2009. Moreover, he subsequently suggested things would turn easier from the autumn of 2009. DIRE EMERGENCY CANCELLED: Obama Declares: Economic crisis 'not as bad as we think'...Retail sales not as bad as feared... Citi doesn't need more government capital: Parsons Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:24pm EDT WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Citigroup Inc Chairman Richard Parsons said on Thursday that the bank does not need any more capital injections from the government and expressed confidence that Citi would remain in private hands. Asked in an interview with Reuters whether Citigroup needed additional government capital injections, Parsons said: "No, I think actually, particularly with the latest conversion.. . Citi is actually one of the better capitalized banks in the world." http://www.reuters. com/article/ newsOne/idUSTRE5 2B7SD20090312? sp=true Best wishes, Thor Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Friday, March 13, 2009 6:43:25 AMRe: Stock Market Dear Vyas, You are very right that share prices are in some sense a 'metric'. My point is only that they should be interpreted with caution. In my view, there are two key nuances to keep in mind with respect to interpreting the birth chart in terms of share price movement: 1) consider daily 'change' in terms of 'level'. 2) share prices are not a complete 'metric' of period/transit influences. As we are discussing the philosophy of astrology, we could recall the general observation that astrology is first and last a spiritual science. It has evolved to help us understand and manage the 'law of karma' in life and most importantly through the 'grace of God'. The approach to view it in some sense as a 'mechanical law' of causation therefore has its limits. Yes the conjunction of transit of 4th lord Venus with the MEP of the 9th house in the SAMVA USA chart is in principle helpful. However, we should also keep in view its natal weakness (it is placed in the 6th house, which also is afflicted by natal Rahu) which limits its positive influence in transit. On the upside, when transit 2nd lord Sun emerges from the 8th house, things could improve to some extent. However, as you have noted, the transit of 6th lord Jupiter over the MEP of the 7th house and now natal 2nd lord Sun, as well as the transit of the two indicators of courage in the chart, Mars and 3rd lord Mercury, with also the nodes now coming into aspect with their natal placements, could keep investor sentiments jumpy. We'll see. Best wishes, Thor Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com>SAMVA Friday, March 13, 2009 3:21:30 AMRe: Stock MarketDear Thor,Often posts to the list regarding the stock market has the underlying assumption, nay tone, that it is 'the metric' of the national chart.Overall there is improvement in the chart and there's more to come next week. The affliction by Jupiter was short lived and the long stay of Venus on the 9/3H MEP are reasons for optimism in the USA.Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Cosmologer" <cosmologer (AT) (DOT) com><SAMVA >Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:58 PMRe: Stock MarketDear Vyas,The focus on asset prices is interesting because they tend to incorporate a lot of information about what determines profits of firms and what investors think will happen in the near future. Nevertheless, we should not assume asset prices are a complete indicator of what is going on in the national life, which the transits in the national chart explain.As for the asset prices, in my experience, it is easy sometimes to focus more on the daily direction or the change of asset prices. But we should not lose sight of the level of asset prices, whether they are high, average or low. During difficult transits, asset prices may be driven down to low levels. Since Autumn 2008 the aspects in the SAMVA USA chart have been quite difficult and the stock prices have been mercilessly pounded down to new lows. The transits are now somewhat easier in terms of major afflictions being less. As a result, there is some relief in terms of partial recovery from the earlier drop. Nevertheless the situation remains difficult.In sum, the change or direction of movement is important but also the levels. Even then, difficulty seen in terms of transit afflictions in the chart may manifest in other ways, in some difficulty that is not perhaps fully reflected in the asset prices.Best wishes,Thor____________ _________ _________ __Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com>SAMVA Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:10:05 PM Stock MarketDear Thor,The stock markets in the USA have rallied in the last three days with thesenegatives:1) LO2, L11, and LO3 (Mercury, general significator of the stock markets) inthe 8H of obstructions with the Sun (ultimate dispositor in old age)2) LO6 exactly afflicts H1, H7, H11 and H3, but was separating3) LO6 closely conjunct natal LO2 (increasingly troublesome)4) Rahu closely conjunct natal Mercury (increasing volatility).5) Saturn is closely conjunct the 2H (not particularly critical)The positives:1) Venus is on the MEP of the 9H2) Natal Mars aspect to tr Mercury3) Moon through the 3H.It appears to me that the negative outweigh the positives. I was expectingsome upside next week with the Sun's transit through the 9H. However, itlooks like some earlier relief.Tomorrow we find the Moon in the 4H, increasing in strength into the day'send. It's in better strength and placed in the house ruling the masses -even more strength tomorrow? We'll see.Best regards,Vyas Munidas------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 From 19th December 2009 most probably market will face down trend as Mars gets retrograde and Jupiter enter in to Aquarius.Even gold market will also go down from 19th Dec 2009.Note:Mars in retrograde and Jupiter in Mars star will play key role on many aspect.Before 19th September Gold may touch around 19,000 to 20,000/=.as Mars-Jupiter aspect each other.From 26th Dec 2009 to 15th January Rahu with Rt.Mercury at Dhanur fairy sign indicates high volatile.i feel.Do not depend on my simple analysis check ur horoscope too as though market will go up but if u r running bad/weak DBAS period u will face loss.All the best at all momentsSahhasra SaagaraShyam <shyam1051ssagar86Sent: Mon, 30 November, 2009 3:35:12 PMStock MarketRespected Saagaraji, Namaste! Hope you are fine ! Sir please can you tell me your astrological views on STOCK MARKET for the month of December 2009. I value and respect your views. Thanking you Shyam The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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