Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Dear friends, Here is some more information: First, a general obeservation. While rising, unemployment remained fairly moderate in 1890 and 1891. Income levels also were high. Normally, Saturn is strong in Leo and the afflictions to the MEP of the 2nd house were short lived. http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/whitten.panic.1893 By contrast in 2008 and 2009, Saturn has been highly afflicted, resulting in a rise in unemployment. The conjunction with the MEP of the 2nd house in 2009 will be more long lasting. For the comparison, here are some events that took place in 1890 and 1891. 1890 Three major legislations were enacted into law in 1890 and two of them had to be repealed a few years later due to their unintended effects on finance and activity: July 2, 1890. The Sherman Antitrust Act (Sherman Act, was the first United States Federal statute to limit cartels and monopolies. It falls under antitrust law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act The Sherman Silver Purchase Act was enacted in 1890 as a United States federal law (repealed in 1893) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Silver_Purchase_Act The McKinley Tariff of 1890 set the average ad valorem tariff rate for imports to the United States at 48.4%, and protected manufacturing. Its chief proponent was Congressman and future President William McKinley (repealed in 1893). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKinley_tariff November 20. Barker Brothers & Co., bankers, suspended and made an assignment. The senior member of the firm had been in active business for fifty-three years. December 1. First day of the run on the Keystone National Bank, which, though temporarily allayed, finally led to the suspension of the bank, the exposure of its fraudulent methods and those of other bank officers and of City Treasure Bardsley. http://www.ushistory.org/Philadelphia/timeline/1890.htm December, Battle of Wounded Knee – 200 Native American women and children massacred by U.S. troops. http://faculty.washington.edu/qtaylor/a_us_history/1800_1900_timeline.htm Advances in information processing and communication in 1890: a) Punched cards and a card-sorting device, used by Herman Hollerith in the 1890 U.S. census to sort statistical data. b) Typewriters are in common use in offices. http://din-timelines.com/1890-1894_timeline.shtml 1891 March 20. The keystone Bank closed by order of the Controller of the Currency. later investigation showed gross frauds by the president, cashier and other officers. March 28. Reading Railway offices and station at Kaighn's Point destroyed by fire. loss, about $80,000. Cresswell's Eagle Iron Foundry, 812-820 Race Street, burned. Loss, $75,000. http://www.ushistory.org/Philadelphia/timeline/1891.htm December. The Baltimore Crisis was a diplomatic incident that took place between Chile and the United States of America as the result of US intervention in the Rebellion of 1891. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Crisis Advances in photography, cinematography and printing in 1891: a) Large press prints and folds 90,000 4-page papers an hour. b) Telephoto lens is attached to the camera. c) Edison's assistant, Dickson, builds the Kinetograph motion picture camera. http://din-timelines.com/1890-1894_timeline.shtml During the Saturn period, an increased focus on living conditions of working people took place: How the Other Half Lives: Studies Among the Tenements of New York (1891) was a pioneering work of photojournalism by Jacob Riis, documenting the squalid living conditions in New York City slums in the 1880s. It served as a basis for future muckraking journalism by exposing the slums to New York City's upper and middle class. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Other_Half_Lives Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear friends, > > The conjunction of transit 8th lord Saturn and the most effective point of the 2nd house at 20° Leo in the SAMVA USA chart happens every 28-30 years. This transit has taken place approximately in the following years. While these conjunctions > - vary in length, direction and exactness > - take place during different periods > - involve different aspects and placements of other planets. > nevertheless, looking at the history of the USA when such conjunctions have previously taken place, may be helpful to gain insights into what to expect in coming months. > > 1802 Rahu/Jupiter period > 1831 Saturn/Saturn > 1861 Mercury/Mars > 1890 Venus/Saturn > 1920 Rahu/Rahu > 1950 Jupiter/Mars > 1979 Mercury/Moon20382009 Venus/Saturn >  > Conjunctions > 1802 30.08.1802-13.09.1802 (2 weeks, dir) > 1831 October (short, dir), February 1832 (short, ret) and July (short, dir) > 1861 August (short, dir) > 1890 October (short, dir), March 1891 (short, ret), July (short, dir) > 1920 August (short, dir) > 1949 September (short, dir), April-June 1950 (long, ret/dir) > 1979 15.11.1978-01.02.1979 (10 weeks, dir/ret) & 03.08.1979†" 27.08.1979 (3 weeks, dir) > 2009 13.09.2008-06.10.2008 (3 weeks, dir) & 11.04.2009-21.06.2009 (9 weeks, ret/dir, not exact) > 2038 >  > Of special interest is the fact that there has been one Venus/Saturn major and sub-period combination before in US history which was also accompanied by this conjunction in Leo. In fact the conjunction took place three times, briefly but exact, in 1890 and 1891. A study of this period in US history may reveal some events suggesting strains associated with the indications of the 2nd house, due to obstructions and endings. Some attempt at making this historical comparison was made in the article >  > Predictions for the USA in 2009 > (December 31, 2008) > http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2008/12/predictions-for-usa-in-2009.html >  > We can also recall that in September 2008, transit Saturn passed briefly over this point. At that time, it was highly afflicted by transit Jupiter in the 6th house, itself afflicted by natal Rahu in the 10th house, during the Venus/Jupiter period. At that time, the entire US financial system went kaput. I don't expect such fireworks this time around, notably as the conjunction only barely goes within 1° orb in May and then separates in June. Moreover, it is not afflicted during the time. However, the as Saturn is stationary there for a couple of months, the impact will be felt. >  > Best wishes, >  > Thor > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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