Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 During President Obama's health care address to Congress two nights ago, Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina abruptly interrupted the President by shouting "You lie!". He has been roundly criticized by both Democrats and his own Republican party for this outburst. He has sinced apologized to the President who accepted. South Carolina's governor, Mark Sanford, is under pressure to resign when he disappeared for several days this past summer for an affair with a woman not his wife. His own Lieutenant. Governor, Andre Bauer, is being smeared for being gay. Recently, Kristin Maguire, mother of four home-schooled children and chairperson of South Carolina's State Board of Education, resigned amidst allegations that she wrote erotic stories on the internet. So the question is, what is happening with South Carolina's chart?South Carolina was admitted into statehood on May 23, 1788. The midnight chart shows a Capricorn ascendant at 28:11 with a strong Saturn in the second house of status. Quite appropriate for a state known for its conservative views. Ketu and Rahu are debilitated and influence the odd-numbered houses. has written that debilitated Rahu results in exposed scandals. Currently, South Carolina is in a Rahu subperiod and L12 Jupiter is aspecting the 1st, 5th, 7th, and 9th houses. Loss of reputation, loss of morals, loss in the eyes of others.South CarolinaMay 23, 1788 12:00 AM +05:20 LMTCharleston, South Carolina Longitude: 79W56 Latitude: 32N47 Warm regards,Shayn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Dear Shayn, Thanks for the very interesting analysis of this Capricorn rising chart (attached in jpg file). South Carolina is an interesting state. It is perhaps one of the most traditionally southern states. It was the first to secede from the Union and it was severely punished by Sherman's Army, which after the famous "March to the Sea" where the Georgian cities of Atlanta and Savannah were practically laid to waste. Sherman's army then marched north, through South Carolina "in early 1865, destroying numerous plantations, and captured the state capital of Columbia on February 17. Fires began that night and by next morning, most of the central city was destroyed."* I know from experience that rectifying an authentic mundane horoscope takes a lot of time and effort. To help with determining the viablility of this chart for South Carolina we could note that in Wikipedia it is stated that the state "has historically had a weak executive branch and a strong legislature." This is interesting as both the executive branch and legislature are by the 10th lord Venus in the chart. Venus is weak, being badly placed in the 6th house of conflict. However, it is favourably aspecting the 6th and 12th houses. With regard to the executive branch of the state, we could assume it relates to the Governor, and that those placed in this post have had problems. We could then look to the Sun in the chart for indications of weakness. What we see is a strong Sun, even if 8th lord in this chart. In other words, the chart seems to show the reverse of what is claimed. That said, this is just one element and the description could possibly be wrong or distorted. Thor *) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_carolina#History Shayn Smith <mactunesmithSAMVA Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:57:17 PM What is Happening with South Carolina? During President Obama's health care address to Congress two nights ago, Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina abruptly interrupted the President by shouting "You lie!". He has been roundly criticized by both Democrats and his own Republican party for this outburst. He has sinced apologized to the President who accepted. South Carolina's governor, Mark Sanford, is under pressure to resign when he disappeared for several days this past summer for an affair with a woman not his wife. His own Lieutenant. Governor, Andre Bauer, is being smeared for being gay. Recently, Kristin Maguire, mother of four home-schooled children and chairperson of South Carolina's State Board of Education, resigned amidst allegations that she wrote erotic stories on the internet. So the question is, what is happening with South Carolina's chart? South Carolina was admitted into statehood on May 23, 1788. The midnight chart shows a Capricorn ascendant at 28:11 with a strong Saturn in the second house of status. Quite appropriate for a state known for its conservative views. Ketu and Rahu are debilitated and influence the odd-numbered houses. has written that debilitated Rahu results in exposed scandals. Currently, South Carolina is in a Rahu subperiod and L12 Jupiter is aspecting the 1st, 5th, 7th, and 9th houses. Loss of reputation, loss of morals, loss in the eyes of others. South Carolina May 23, 1788 12:00 AM +05:20 LMT Charleston, South Carolina Longitude: 79W56 Latitude: 32N47 Warm regards,Shayn 1 of 1 Photo(s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Hi Shayn, You are right. I missed the 5th house affliction. The chart makes sense in this regard and the period and transit influences concerning SC Congressman Wilson's outburst at the US President in the US Congress this week match the event quite well. One question have you looked at the dynamics of the chart in earlier such events? Thor Shayn Smith <mactunesmithSAMVA Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:16:53 PMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? Hi Thor, Nice additional facts offered! Would not the Sun be weakened by its placement in a house afflicted by the debilitated Rahu-Ketu axis? Also, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to view its weakness and affliction in the D9 chart. Warm regards,Shayn Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:00:00 PMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? [1 Attachment] Dear Shayn, Thanks for the very interesting analysis of this Capricorn rising chart (attached in jpg file). South Carolina is an interesting state. It is perhaps one of the most traditionally southern states. It was the first to secede from the Union and it was severely punished by Sherman's Army, which after the famous "March to the Sea" where the Georgian cities of Atlanta and Savannah were practically laid to waste. Sherman's army then marched north, through South Carolina "in early 1865, destroying numerous plantations, and captured the state capital of Columbia on February 17. Fires began that night and by next morning, most of the central city was destroyed."* I know from experience that rectifying an authentic mundane horoscope takes a lot of time and effort. To help with determining the viablility of this chart for South Carolina we could note that in Wikipedia it is stated that the state "has historically had a weak executive branch and a strong legislature. " This is interesting as both the executive branch and legislature are by the 10th lord Venus in the chart. Venus is weak, being badly placed in the 6th house of conflict. However, it is favourably aspecting the 6th and 12th houses. With regard to the executive branch of the state, we could assume it relates to the Governor, and that those placed in this post have had problems. We could then look to the Sun in the chart for indications of weakness. What we see is a strong Sun, even if 8th lord in this chart. In other words, the chart seems to show the reverse of what is claimed. That said, this is just one element and the description could possibly be wrong or distorted. Thor *) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_carolina#History Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >SAMVA Friday, September 11, 2009 6:57:17 PM What is Happening with South Carolina? During President Obama's health care address to Congress two nights ago, Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina abruptly interrupted the President by shouting "You lie!". He has been roundly criticized by both Democrats and his own Republican party for this outburst. He has sinced apologized to the President who accepted. South Carolina's governor, Mark Sanford, is under pressure to resign when he disappeared for several days this past summer for an affair with a woman not his wife. His own Lieutenant. Governor, Andre Bauer, is being smeared for being gay. Recently, Kristin Maguire, mother of four home-schooled children and chairperson of South Carolina's State Board of Education, resigned amidst allegations that she wrote erotic stories on the internet. So the question is, what is happening with South Carolina's chart? South Carolina was admitted into statehood on May 23, 1788. The midnight chart shows a Capricorn ascendant at 28:11 with a strong Saturn in the second house of status. Quite appropriate for a state known for its conservative views. Ketu and Rahu are debilitated and influence the odd-numbered houses. has written that debilitated Rahu results in exposed scandals. Currently, South Carolina is in a Rahu subperiod and L12 Jupiter is aspecting the 1st, 5th, 7th, and 9th houses. Loss of reputation, loss of morals, loss in the eyes of others. South Carolina May 23, 1788 12:00 AM +05:20 LMT Charleston, South Carolina Longitude: 79W56 Latitude: 32N47 Warm regards,Shayn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Hi Thor, I am on holiday right now with family but will look at it in a couple of days when I return. Thanks! Warm regards, ShaynCosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hi Shayn, You are right. I missed the 5th house affliction. The chart makes sense in this regard and the period and transit influences concerning SC Congressman Wilson's outburst at the US President in the US Congress this week match the event quite well. One question have you looked at the dynamics of the chart in earlier such events? Thor Shayn Smith <mactunesmith >SAMVA Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:16:53 PMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? Hi Thor, Nice additional facts offered! Would not the Sun be weakened by its placement in a house afflicted by the debilitated Rahu-Ketu axis? Also, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to view its weakness and affliction in the D9 chart. Warm regards,Shayn Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:00:00 PMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? [1 Attachment] Dear Shayn, Thanks for the very interesting analysis of this Capricorn rising chart (attached in jpg file). South Carolina is an interesting state. It is perhaps one of the most traditionally southern states. It was the first to secede from the Union and it was severely punished by Sherman's Army, which after the famous "March to the Sea" where the Georgian cities of Atlanta and Savannah were practically laid to waste. Sherman's army then marched north, through South Carolina "in early 1865, destroying numerous plantations, and captured the state capital of Columbia on February 17. Fires began that night and by next morning, most of the central city was destroyed."* I know from experience that rectifying an authentic mundane horoscope takes a lot of time and effort. To help with determining the viablility of this chart for South Carolina we could note that in Wikipedia it is stated that the state "has historically had a weak executive branch and a strong legislature. " This is interesting as both the executive branch and legislature are by the 10th lord Venus in the chart. Venus is weak, being badly placed in the 6th house of conflict. However, it is favourably aspecting the 6th and 12th houses. With regard to the executive branch of the state, we could assume it relates to the Governor, and that those placed in this post have had problems. We could then look to the Sun in the chart for indications of weakness. What we see is a strong Sun, even if 8th lord in this chart. In other words, the chart seems to show the reverse of what is claimed. That said, this is just one element and the description could possibly be wrong or distorted. Thor *) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_carolina#History Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >SAMVA Friday, September 11, 2009 6:57:17 PM What is Happening with South Carolina? During President Obama's health care address to Congress two nights ago, Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina abruptly interrupted the President by shouting "You lie!". He has been roundly criticized by both Democrats and his own Republican party for this outburst. He has sinced apologized to the President who accepted. South Carolina's governor, Mark Sanford, is under pressure to resign when he disappeared for several days this past summer for an affair with a woman not his wife. His own Lieutenant. Governor, Andre Bauer, is being smeared for being gay. Recently, Kristin Maguire, mother of four home-schooled children and chairperson of South Carolina's State Board of Education, resigned amidst allegations that she wrote erotic stories on the internet. So the question is, what is happening with South Carolina's chart? South Carolina was admitted into statehood on May 23, 1788. The midnight chart shows a Capricorn ascendant at 28:11 with a strong Saturn in the second house of status. Quite appropriate for a state known for its conservative views. Ketu and Rahu are debilitated and influence the odd-numbered houses. has written that debilitated Rahu results in exposed scandals. Currently, South Carolina is in a Rahu subperiod and L12 Jupiter is aspecting the 1st, 5th, 7th, and 9th houses. Loss of reputation, loss of morals, loss in the eyes of others. South Carolina May 23, 1788 12:00 AM +05:20 LMT Charleston, South Carolina Longitude: 79W56 Latitude: 32N47 Warm regards,Shayn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Hi Shayn, No sweat. Enjoy your holiday! The pressure on Rep. Wilson is increasing to issue a public apology. House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over outburst Associated Press– 46 mins ago WASHINGTON – Democratic leaders are planning a House vote early next week to admonish Republican Rep. Joe Wilson if he does not apologize on the House floor for yelling "You lie!" during President Barack Obama's health care address to Congress. National attention from the heckling episode has money pouring into Wilson's campaign treasury and that of his 2010 Democratic challenger. Wilson had raised more than $700,000 since the incident as of Friday, according to the National Republican Congressional Committee. His opponent, Rob Miller, had received more than $1 million from 25,000 donors nationwide, said his campaign manager, Lindsay Zoeller. Democratic leaders initially showed mixed interest in punishing Wilson. But they decided at a meeting late Thursday that they probably will propose a resolution of disapproval early next week if he doesn't apologize to Congress, said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. While not a formal censure or reprimand, the resolution, if passed as expected, would put Congress on record as condemning Wilson's conduct. http://news./s/ap/20090912/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_heckling_wilson Thor Shayn Smith <mactunesmithSAMVA Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:43:14 AMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? Hi Thor, I am on holiday right now with family but will look at it in a couple of days when I return. Thanks! Warm regards, ShaynCosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hi Shayn, You are right. I missed the 5th house affliction. The chart makes sense in this regard and the period and transit influences concerning SC Congressman Wilson's outburst at the US President in the US Congress this week match the event quite well. One question have you looked at the dynamics of the chart in earlier such events? Thor Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >SAMVA Friday, September 11, 2009 9:16:53 PMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? Hi Thor, Nice additional facts offered! Would not the Sun be weakened by its placement in a house afflicted by the debilitated Rahu-Ketu axis? Also, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to view its weakness and affliction in the D9 chart. Warm regards,Shayn Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Friday, September 11, 2009 2:00:00 PMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? [1 Attachment] Dear Shayn, Thanks for the very interesting analysis of this Capricorn rising chart (attached in jpg file). South Carolina is an interesting state. It is perhaps one of the most traditionally southern states. It was the first to secede from the Union and it was severely punished by Sherman's Army, which after the famous "March to the Sea" where the Georgian cities of Atlanta and Savannah were practically laid to waste. Sherman's army then marched north, through South Carolina "in early 1865, destroying numerous plantations, and captured the state capital of Columbia on February 17. Fires began that night and by next morning, most of the central city was destroyed."* I know from experience that rectifying an authentic mundane horoscope takes a lot of time and effort. To help with determining the viablility of this chart for South Carolina we could note that in Wikipedia it is stated that the state "has historically had a weak executive branch and a strong legislature. " This is interesting as both the executive branch and legislature are by the 10th lord Venus in the chart. Venus is weak, being badly placed in the 6th house of conflict. However, it is favourably aspecting the 6th and 12th houses. With regard to the executive branch of the state, we could assume it relates to the Governor, and that those placed in this post have had problems. We could then look to the Sun in the chart for indications of weakness. What we see is a strong Sun, even if 8th lord in this chart. In other words, the chart seems to show the reverse of what is claimed. That said, this is just one element and the description could possibly be wrong or distorted. Thor *) http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ South_carolina# History Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >SAMVA Friday, September 11, 2009 6:57:17 PM What is Happening with South Carolina? During President Obama's health care address to Congress two nights ago, Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina abruptly interrupted the President by shouting "You lie!". He has been roundly criticized by both Democrats and his own Republican party for this outburst. He has sinced apologized to the President who accepted. South Carolina's governor, Mark Sanford, is under pressure to resign when he disappeared for several days this past summer for an affair with a woman not his wife. His own Lieutenant. Governor, Andre Bauer, is being smeared for being gay. Recently, Kristin Maguire, mother of four home-schooled children and chairperson of South Carolina's State Board of Education, resigned amidst allegations that she wrote erotic stories on the internet. So the question is, what is happening with South Carolina's chart? South Carolina was admitted into statehood on May 23, 1788. The midnight chart shows a Capricorn ascendant at 28:11 with a strong Saturn in the second house of status. Quite appropriate for a state known for its conservative views. Ketu and Rahu are debilitated and influence the odd-numbered houses. has written that debilitated Rahu results in exposed scandals. Currently, South Carolina is in a Rahu subperiod and L12 Jupiter is aspecting the 1st, 5th, 7th, and 9th houses. Loss of reputation, loss of morals, loss in the eyes of others. South Carolina May 23, 1788 12:00 AM +05:20 LMT Charleston, South Carolina Longitude: 79W56 Latitude: 32N47 Warm regards,Shayn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Dear Thor and List,I've selected several major events in South Carolina's history, including those mentioned by you, Thor. Here is how the dasas and transits relate to the May 23, 1788 state birth date.1804--(Sept 7) Hurricane of 1804. Su/Ju period. Tr. Ra-->tr. Sa (natural sig for H4 & H8)1838--(Apr 24) Terrible fire destroys much of Ansonborough. Ra/Ve period. Tr. Ra-->na. Ma (fiery combination)1860--(Dec 20) Ordinance of Secession ratified by "a Convention of the People of the State of South Carolina" proclaiming South Carolina "an independent commonwealth." Sa/Sa period. Tr. Sa in H8 (strength of natal Saturn gives them confidence to achieve independence, however its transit placement indicates an ill-advised move).1861--(April 12) Confederate forces open fire upon Ft. Sumter, the first shots of the Civil War. Sa/Sa period. Tr. Ra/Ke-->na. Ve (an unpeaceful act), na. Ra-->tr. Ju-stationary1865-- (Feb 23) Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman's troops reach Middleton Place Plantation, leaving it in ruins. Charlestonians fear imminent invasion, but Sherman's forces turn toward Columbia. Their subsequent burning of Columbia destroys many records and valuables which Charlestonians had sent there for "safekeeping." Sa/Me period. Tr. Ra-->na. Ju (loss)1865--(April 9) Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox Court House. Sa/Ke period. Tr. Ra-->na.Ju, Tr.Je-->tr. Ju, tr. Ju-->tr. Ke ( a sad day for Southerners)1989--(September 21) Hurricane Hugo, a powerful category 4 hurricane with winds of 131-155 mph slams into Charleston with a 12-17 foot wall of water rolling over Ft. Sumter around midnight. The barrier islands are inundated as an estimated 80% of homes on Sullivan's Island and Folly Island are badly damaged or destroyed . Many homes in the Historic District sustain 10 to 24 inches of flooding. While about three quarters of the 3,500 significant structures suffer some damage, only twenty-five historically important buildings are severely damaged. Total losses are estimated at $2.8 billion. Sa/Su period. Tr. Ju in H6-->tr. Sa-slow in H12From this small sampling and recent events, it appears that the given birth date of South Carolina holds up well. The next task is to make predictions against it. The current subperiod is Rahu followed by malefic Jupiter so things can be challenging up until October, 2012 when a strong benefic Saturn reigns until June, 2015. The seven year Ketu main period beginning in 2015 will certainly bring up issues in that state. Warm regards,ShaynCosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:13:15 AMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? Hi Shayn, No sweat. Enjoy your holiday! The pressure on Rep. Wilson is increasing to issue a public apology. House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over outburst Associated Press– 46 mins ago W ASHINGTON – Democratic leaders are planning a House vote early next week to admonish Republican Rep. Joe Wilson if he does not apologize on the House floor for yelling "You lie!" during President Barack Obama's health care address to Congress. National attention from the heckling episode has money pouring into Wilson 's campaign treasury and that of his 2010 Democratic challenger. Wilson had raised more than $700,000 since the incident as of Friday, according to the National Republican Congressional Committee. His opponent, Rob Miller, had received more than $1 million from 25,000 donors nationwide, said his campaign manager, Lindsay Zoeller. Democratic leaders initially showed mixed interest in punishing Wilson . But they decided at a meeting late Thursday that they probably will propose a resolution of disapproval early next week if he doesn't apologize to Congress, said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. While not a formal censure or reprimand, the resolution, if passed as expected, would put Congress on record as condemning Wilson 's conduct. http://news. / s/ap/20090912/ ap_on_go_ co/us_health_ care_heckling_ wilson Thor Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >SAMVA Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:43:14 AMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? Hi Thor, I am on holiday right now with family but will look at it in a couple of days when I return. Thanks! Warm regards, ShaynCosmologer <cosmologer > wrote: Hi Shayn, You are right. I missed the 5th house affliction. The chart makes sense in this regard and the period and transit influences concerning SC Congressman Wilson's outburst at the US President in the US Congress this week match the event quite well. One question have you looked at the dynamics of the chart in earlier such events? Thor Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >SAMVA Friday, September 11, 2009 9:16:53 PMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? Hi Thor, Nice additional facts offered! Would not the Sun be weakened by its placement in a house afflicted by the debilitated Rahu-Ketu axis? Also, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to view its weakness and affliction in the D9 chart. Warm regards,Shayn Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Friday, September 11, 2009 2:00:00 PMRe: What is Happening with South Carolina? [1 Attachment] Dear Shayn, Thanks for the very interesting analysis of this Capricorn rising chart (attached in jpg file). South Carolina is an interesting state. It is perhaps one of the most traditionally southern states. It was the first to secede from the Union and it was severely punished by Sherman's Army, which after the famous "March to the Sea" where the Georgian cities of Atlanta and Savannah were practically laid to waste. Sherman's army then marched north, through South Carolina "in early 1865, destroying numerous plantations, and captured the state capital of Columbia on February 17. Fires began that night and by next morning, most of the central city was destroyed."* I know from experience that rectifying an authentic mundane horoscope takes a lot of time and effort. To help with determining the viablility of this chart for South Carolina we could note that in Wikipedia it is stated that the state "has historically had a weak executive branch and a strong legislature. " This is interesting as both the executive branch and legislature are by the 10th lord Venus in the chart. Venus is weak, being badly placed in the 6th house of conflict. However, it is favourably aspecting the 6th and 12th houses. With regard to the executive branch of the state, we could assume it relates to the Governor, and that those placed in this post have had problems. We could then look to the Sun in the chart for indications of weakness. What we see is a strong Sun, even if 8th lord in this chart. In other words, the chart seems to show the reverse of what is claimed. That said, this is just one element and the description could possibly be wrong or distorted. Thor *) http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ South_carolina# History Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >SAMVA Friday, September 11, 2009 6:57:17 PM What is Happening with South Carolina? During President Obama's health care address to Congress two nights ago, Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina abruptly interrupted the President by shouting "You lie!". He has been roundly criticized by both Democrats and his own Republican party for this outburst. He has sinced apologized to the President who accepted. South Carolina's governor, Mark Sanford, is under pressure to resign when he disappeared for several days this past summer for an affair with a woman not his wife. His own Lieutenant. Governor, Andre Bauer, is being smeared for being gay. Recently, Kristin Maguire, mother of four home-schooled children and chairperson of South Carolina's State Board of Education, resigned amidst allegations that she wrote erotic stories on the internet. So the question is, what is happening with South Carolina's chart? South Carolina was admitted into statehood on May 23, 1788. The midnight chart shows a Capricorn ascendant at 28:11 with a strong Saturn in the second house of status. Quite appropriate for a state known for its conservative views. Ketu and Rahu are debilitated and influence the odd-numbered houses. has written that debilitated Rahu results in exposed scandals. Currently, South Carolina is in a Rahu subperiod and L12 Jupiter is aspecting the 1st, 5th, 7th, and 9th houses. Loss of reputation, loss of morals, loss in the eyes of others. South Carolina May 23, 1788 12:00 AM +05:20 LMT Charleston, South Carolina Longitude: 79W56 Latitude: 32N47 Warm regards,Shayn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Dear Shayn, Thanks, that looks very promising. It will be interesting to follow the predictions. Thor SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: > > Dear Thor and List, > I've selected several major events in South Carolina's history, including those mentioned by you, Thor. Here is how the dasas and transits relate to the May 23, 1788 state birth date. > > 1804--(Sept 7) Hurricane of 1804. Su/Ju period. Tr. Ra-->tr. Sa (natural sig for H4 & H8) > > 1838--(Apr 24) Terrible fire destroys much of Ansonborough. Ra/Ve period. Tr. Ra-->na. Ma (fiery combination) > > 1860--(Dec 20) Ordinance of Secession ratified by " a Convention of the People of the State of South Carolina " proclaiming South Carolina " an independent commonwealth. " Sa/Sa period. Tr. Sa in H8 (strength of natal Saturn gives them confidence to achieve independence, however its transit placement indicates an ill-advised move). > > 1861--(April 12) Confederate forces open fire upon Ft. Sumter, the first shots of the Civil War. Sa/Sa period. Tr. Ra/Ke-->na. Ve (an unpeaceful act), na. Ra-->tr. Ju-stationary > > 1865-- (Feb 23) Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman's troops reach Middleton Place Plantation, leaving it in ruins. Charlestonians fear imminent invasion, but Sherman's forces turn toward Columbia. Their subsequent burning of Columbia destroys many records and valuables which Charlestonians had sent there for " safekeeping. " Sa/Me period. Tr. Ra-->na. Ju (loss) > > 1865--(April 9) Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox Court House. Sa/Ke period. Tr. Ra-->na.Ju, Tr.Je-->tr. Ju, tr. Ju-->tr. Ke ( a sad day for Southerners) > > 1989--(September 21) Hurricane Hugo, a powerful category 4 hurricane with winds of 131-155 mph slams into Charleston with a 12-17 foot wall of water rolling over Ft. Sumter around midnight. The barrier islands are inundated as an estimated 80% of homes on Sullivan's Island and Folly Island are badly damaged or destroyed . Many homes in the Historic District sustain 10 to 24 inches of flooding. While about three quarters of the 3,500 significant structures suffer some damage, only twenty-five historically important buildings are severely damaged. Total losses are estimated at $2.8 billion. Sa/Su period. Tr. Ju in H6-->tr. Sa-slow in H12 > > From this small sampling and recent events, it appears that the given birth date of South Carolina holds up well. The next task is to make predictions against it. The current subperiod is Rahu followed by malefic Jupiter so things can be challenging up until October, 2012 when a strong benefic Saturn reigns until June, 2015. The seven year Ketu main period beginning in 2015 will certainly bring up issues in that state. > > > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > ________________________________ > Cosmologer <cosmologer > SAMVA > Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:13:15 AM > Re: What is Happening with South Carolina? > > > Hi Shayn, > > No sweat. Enjoy your holiday! > > The pressure on Rep. Wilson is increasing to issue a public apology. > > House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over outburst > Associated Press†" 46 mins ago > W ASHINGTON †" Democratic leaders are planning a House vote early next week to admonish Republican Rep. Joe Wilson if he does not apologize on the House floor for yelling " You lie! " during President Barack Obama's health care address to Congress. National attention from the heckling episode has money pouring into Wilson 's campaign treasury and that of his 2010 Democratic challenger. Wilson had raised more than $700,000 since the incident as of Friday, according to the National Republican Congressional Committee. His opponent, Rob Miller, had received more than $1 million from 25,000 donors nationwide, said his campaign manager, Lindsay Zoeller. Democratic leaders initially showed mixed interest in punishing Wilson . But they decided at a meeting late Thursday that they probably will propose a resolution of disapproval early next week if he doesn't apologize to Congress, said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. While not a formal > censure or reprimand, the resolution, if passed as expected, would put Congress on record as condemning Wilson 's conduct. > http://news. / s/ap/20090912/ ap_on_go_ co/us_health_ care_heckling_ wilson > > Thor > > > > ________________________________ > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > SAMVA > Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:43:14 AM > Re: What is Happening with South Carolina? > > > > > Hi Thor, > I am on holiday right now with family but will look at it in a couple of days when I return. > > Thanks! > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > Cosmologer <cosmologer > wrote: > > >Hi Shayn, > > > >You are right. I missed the 5th house affliction. The chart makes sense in this regard and the period and transit influences concerning SC Congressman Wilson's outburst at the US President in the US Congress this week match the event quite well. One question have you looked at the dynamics of the chart in earlier such events? > > > >Thor > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > >SAMVA > >Friday, September 11, 2009 9:16:53 PM > >Re: What is Happening with South Carolina? > > > > > > > > > >Hi Thor, > > > >Nice additional facts offered! Would not the Sun be weakened by its placement in a house afflicted by the debilitated Rahu-Ketu axis? Also, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to view its weakness and affliction in the D9 chart. > > > > > >Warm regards, > >Shayn > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Cosmologer <cosmologer > > >SAMVA > >Friday, September 11, 2009 2:00:00 PM > >Re: What is Happening with South Carolina? [1 Attachment] > > > > > >Dear Shayn, > > > >Thanks for the very interesting analysis of this Capricorn rising chart (attached in jpg file). > > > >South Carolina is an interesting state. It is perhaps one of the most traditionally southern states. It was the first to secede from the Union and it was severely punished by Sherman's Army, which after the famous " March to the Sea " where the Georgian cities of Atlanta and Savannah were practically laid to waste. Sherman's army then marched north, through South Carolina " in early 1865, destroying numerous plantations, and captured the state capital of Columbia on February 17. Fires began that night and by next morning, most of the central city was destroyed. " * > > > >I know from experience that rectifying an authentic mundane horoscope takes a lot of time and effort. To help with determining the viablility of this chart for South Carolina we could note that in Wikipedia it is stated that the state " has historically had a weak executive branch and a strong legislature. " This is interesting as both the executive branch and legislature are by the 10th lord Venus in the chart. Venus is weak, being badly placed in the 6th house of conflict. However, it is favourably aspecting the 6th and 12th houses. With regard to the executive branch of the state, we could assume it relates to the Governor, and that those placed in this post have had problems. We could then look to the Sun in the chart for indications of weakness. What we see is a strong Sun, even if 8th lord in this chart. In other words, the chart seems to show the reverse of what is claimed. That said, this > > is just one element and the description could possibly be wrong or distorted. > > > >Thor > > > >*) http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ South_carolina# History > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > >SAMVA > >Friday, September 11, 2009 6:57:17 PM > > What is Happening with South Carolina? > > > > > > > > > >During President Obama's health care address to Congress two nights ago, Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina abruptly interrupted the President by shouting " You lie! " . He has been roundly criticized by both Democrats and his own Republican party for this outburst. He has sinced apologized to the President who accepted. South Carolina's governor, Mark Sanford, is under pressure to resign when he disappeared for several days this past summer for an affair with a woman not his wife. His own Lieutenant. Governor, Andre Bauer, is being smeared for being gay. Recently, Kristin Maguire, mother of four home-schooled children and chairperson of South Carolina's State Board of Education, resigned amidst allegations that she wrote erotic stories on the internet. So the question is, what is happening with South Carolina's chart? > > > > > >South Carolina was admitted into statehood on May 23, 1788. The midnight chart shows a Capricorn ascendant at 28:11 with a strong Saturn in the second house of status. Quite appropriate for a state known for its conservative views. Ketu and Rahu are debilitated and influence the odd-numbered houses. Professor Choudhry has written that debilitated Rahu results in exposed scandals. Currently, South Carolina is in a Rahu subperiod and L12 Jupiter is aspecting the 1st, 5th, 7th, and 9th houses. Loss of reputation, loss of morals, loss in the eyes of others. > > > > > >South Carolina > >May 23, 1788 12:00 AM +05:20 LMT > >Charleston, South Carolina Longitude: 79W56 Latitude: 32N47 > > > >Warm regards, > >Shayn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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