Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Dear Group, One enormously good piece of news is that if the US is in VE/SA right now, in about 6 years, it should go into SU/SU. My PL does not go back far enough to cast the US chart, but it seems it would about then. I'd hope the US would be in a much much better position. In SU/SU the sun should shine brightly in our country, no pun intended. Would the professor and Thor please comment on the flavor of SU/SU period for the US, and the turn around I am assuming we would see. Six years seems like a long time, but anyone who has children knows it goes by in the bat of an eye. Thank you. Lila t seems Hello my dear and list members, > > We have discussed these issues quite extensively on SAMVA list, but allow > me to mention a few things on this list as the issue has also been raised > here. > > First, there are two things to keep in mind when evaluating the economy. > The 'state of the economy' is different from its prospects, that is, if > the economy is expected to improve or not going forward. In your > prediction for the fall of 2009, you were discussing the latter. Indeed, > the outlook for the US economy improved in the autumn months of 2009 as > predicted. There is no doubt about that. Even then, the state of the > economy is still far from good, with unemployment high and output levels > still below those of 2008. > > Gross Domestic Output (GDP) is estimated to have stopped declining in the > 3rd quarter of 2009 (July-Sept). Future re-estimates may likely increase > the GDP in that quarter. Further, the estimate for the 4th quarter > (Oct-Dec) 2009 is only expected sometime in early 2010. So, it is too > early to pass final judgement on the outturn for the second half of this > year. That said, it is clear 2009 in total will be a year of recession. > The question is only how much did output contract compared to 2008. Most > estimates are now around -2 per cent. The outlook for the future, at any > given time, however, is what the question concerns. In September, the > outlook for the economy seems to have improved as predicted - even if > there is also some hype in the media and the government statistics is > focused on the improvement and not the year-over-year comparison. > > The sharp increase in the stock market (since Spring 2009) is usually > taken as a sign of increased investor optimism for the future of the > economy. In this regard, we can note that the average value of the Dow > Jones Industrial Index, a leading barometer of investor expectations, > was 7,446 points on average in February and March 2009. This is a very low > value compared to the highs of 2007, when the Dow Jones was in the > 12,000-14,000 range. In September and October 2009 it averaged 9,749 > points, which is a rise of 31%. This is usually considered to reflect the > outlook for corporate earnings and hence the state of the economy. A rise > by one-third within a year is usually considered a major improvement in > the outlook for the economy. There is no doubt about it. Of course, > sometimes the investors misjudge things and events turn out differently, > but that is a different story. We can also add that the level of share > prices is still well below the > 2007 highs. Moreover, some of the increase in share prices is linked > to the massive infusion of money into the financial system by the > government since 2008. Now there are concerns this impact will not > be durable and as a result the outlook for the economy has been judged to > be more uncertain. Even the Secretary of the Treasury, Timothy Geitner, > has recently cautioned that economic growth will be sluggish going > forward. This is consistent with the 'trend' expectation of sluggish > growth during the Saturn period (February 2009-April 2012) based on the > SAMVA USA chart. Of course, transits, when strongly connecting in the > chart will take precedence over the trend influences. In this regard, it > has recently been discussed on SAMVA list that the transit influences in > the summer of 2010 will be highly adverse, with implications for the US > financial system and economy - and this usually has implications for the > financial systems and economies of > other countries around the globe. > > The number of bank failiures in the USA increased in the months of > September and October 2009. The amounts in the 10 months so far of this > year are far higher than the amounts in the closing months of 2008 even > if most of the banks involved appear to be quite small. More importantly, > this is generally seen to be a residual from last years crisis and the > stock market has taken these developments in stride, even improved. > However, the fall of CTI Group at the very end of October, came as > something of a surprise even if it had been in difficulty for a long time > and its failiure had been openly discussed in the media from July through > October of this year. Even then, the magnitude of the failiure of CTI > Group is only a small fraction of the cost of the banking collapses in > September 2008. The cost of Lehman Brothers and Washington Mutual was > easily 15 times greater. If we add to that the outlays involved in > the rescue of other financial > institutions like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Merril Lynch and AIG in > September 2008, it quickly becomes clear that the events of October 2009, > even if adverse, are nowhere near as serious of those over one year > earlier. In any event, the stock market also declined towards the end of > October 2009, while it remained close to the average value citied above. > > In short, predictions for 2009 including > - improvement in the financial markets from the commencement of the Saturn > period in February 2009 > - for the outlook for the economy to improve from August 2009 > have stood up quite well. > > The prediction for > - economic growth to be sluggish in the Saturn period > has so far been consistent with the data and statements of many notable > economists. > > Thor > > > > ________________________________ > <vkchoudhry > SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology > Wed, November 4, 2009 2:45:27 AM > Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Re: Transit > influences in 2010. > > Hello Jason, > > I add my replies to your Qs in your appended msg. > > > > - > jasonsmith108 > SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology > Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:36 AM > [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Re: Transit > influences in 2010. > > > > > Dear , > > I recently changed my email and ID, but I've been on this and > Thor's list for quite a while, although silent. > OK. > Thank you for your prediction and good work in helping humanity. > WELCOME. > I would like to ask some pointed questions, and I mean no disrespect in > the least. I ask your forgiveness in advance if it comes across that way. > WELCOME. > 1. You have previously predicted that the USA economy will improve, but > sluggishly in the Saturn subperiod that began early this year. By the real > numbers released by the government here, there has been no improvement > despite desperate media hype at times. > > DOW JONES INDEX SHOWS THINGS MOVING. IN MID MARCH INDEX WAS ABOUT 7880 > AND NOW IT IS 9772. > > In fact, there has been slight worsening. However, the fall hasn't > continued as drastically. > > VOLATILITY IS THERE BY IT IS NOT DOWNWARD. > > Do you still believe that things will improve into the end of the Saturn > subperiod (March 2012) or have you changed your view through deeper > analysis? > YES AND I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY VIEWS. > 2. You gave a prediction that in the month of October, financial markets > will have a setback. > > I GAVE THIS PREDICTION ON 11TH OCTOBER, 2009. > > By my careful comparison and measure of global indices from the start to > the end of October, there was no serious setback. > > OK. WE CAN SAY SO. BUT FROM 11TH OCT TO END OF OCT THERE HAS BEEN THERE > HAS BEEN STRONG DOWNWARD MOVEMENT OF DJ INDEX ON 21ST, 23RD, 26TH, 28TH > AND 30 OCTOBER. THE PLANETARY INFLUENCES RESULTED IN WILDER VOLATILITY TO > IMPACT THE SENTIMENT. > > For the most part: a) everything was within the range on the monthly > charts, b) there were new highs in the October on many indices, c) most > markets closed the month higher than the month's open value. There was > nothing out of the ordinary for most of the month and the very last week > saw the pullback. I have seen on Thor's list some members giving praise to > this prediction, but it's not reflected in the numbers in the financial > markets, for which the prediction was meant. > > THE PRAISING MEMBERS MAY BE REFERRING TO INDIAN MARKETS WHERE THE > SETBACK WAS QUITE HARSH. > > I would like your input here - what metric are you using to measure > financial markets? In my humble view, it's not just enough to give a > prediction, but a metric must be used to compare the results before and > after. > I ONLY USE DJ INDEX AND SENSEX (INDIAN INDEX) TO MEASURE THE RESULTS > WITH REFERENCE TO THE PREDICTION. > 3. The tone of this most recent prediction below appears to be bleak. To > clarify, are you saying that the US economy is due to face further > setbacks and not improve? Or should we read that the Saturn subperiod > brings sluggish improvement, but expect further setbacks as well? If > that's what you are saying, then it's somewhat contrary - " It will > improve, and there will be setbacks. " Perhaps you can clarify the outlook? > SLUGGISH IMPROVEMENT IS SEEN BUT THERE ARE OBSTRUCTIONS AND VOLATILITY. > Thank you sincerely Professor. I am one of your biggest fans and a > student of SA. And again, I apologize if this email doesn't go over well. > I am simply looking for clarification. > WE SHOULD EXAMINE THINGS CRITICALLY. THERE IS NO PROBLEM. YOU ARE > WELCOME. > Jason Smith > > SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology , " " > <vkchoudhry wrote: > > > > Hello dear list members, > > > > The slow moving transit influences of Rahu, Ketu, Jupiter and Saturn > in USA SAMVA chart indicate that the economic and general conditions find > persistent more challenges in 2010. I know this is not a good news but > planetary indications are such. This will impact other countries of the > world, as well. Health, financial instability and professional instability > will be the main concerns. Aggressive, hasty actions and persisting > obstructions will add salt to the injury. > > > > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). > > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Hello Lila, I have written many times about the upcoming "Sun major period" in the SAMVA USA chart. A search in the SAMVA archives revealed the following, but I have written more. Message on SAMVA on April 25, 2009: "On April 2016, the Sun major period begins in the SAMVA USA chart. It would likely be a time when the status of the USA in the world is reinvigorated." Message on SAMVA on March 15, 2009: "In 2016, when the Sun major period rolls around, a resurgence of US power on the world stage would be expected." Message on SAMVA on February 22, 2009: "...the Sun major period...should be a very positive period." Message on SAMVA on November 22, 2008: "...the long term pessimism regarding the international power and influence of the USA in the world is likely overstated given that a very powerful Sun major period begins in 2016." Message on SAMVA on March 16, 2008: "In the up coming SUN MAJOR PERIOD (April 2016 - April 2022) we can expect some similarity with the developments in the 1896-1902 period." Thor "lila" <lilaSAMVA Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 4:38:45 PM The Good News Is......Dear Group,One enormously good piece of news is that if the US is in VE/SA right now,in about 6 years, it should go into SU/SU.My PL does not go back far enough to cast the US chart, but it seems itwould about then. I'd hope the US would be in a much much better position.In SU/SU the sun should shine brightly in our country, no pun intended.Would the professor and Thor please comment on the flavor of SU/SU periodfor the US, and the turn around I am assuming we would see. Six yearsseems like a long time, but anyone who has children knows it goes by inthe bat of an eye.Thank you.Lilat seems Hello my dear and list members,>> We have discussed these issues quite extensively on SAMVA list, but allow> me to mention a few things on this list as the issue has also been raised> here.>> First, there are two things to keep in mind when evaluating the economy.> The 'state of the economy' is different from its prospects, that is, if> the economy is expected to improve or not going forward. In your> prediction for the fall of 2009, you were discussing the latter. Indeed,> the outlook for the US economy improved in the autumn months of 2009 as> predicted. There is no doubt about that. Even then, the state of the> economy is still far from good, with unemployment high and output levels> still below those of 2008.>> Gross Domestic Output (GDP) is estimated to have stopped declining in the> 3rd quarter of 2009 (July-Sept). Future re-estimates may likely increase> the GDP in that quarter. Further, the estimate for the 4th quarter> (Oct-Dec) 2009 is only expected sometime in early 2010. So, it is too> early to pass final judgement on the outturn for the second half of this> year. That said, it is clear 2009 in total will be a year of recession.> The question is only how much did output contract compared to 2008. Most> estimates are now around -2 per cent. The outlook for the future, at any> given time, however, is what the question concerns. In September, the> outlook for the economy seems to have improved as predicted - even if> there is also some hype in the media and the government statistics is> focused on the improvement and not the year-over-year comparison.>> The sharp increase in the stock market (since Spring 2009) is usually> taken as a sign of increased investor optimism for the future of the> economy. In this regard, we can note that the average value of the Dow> Jones Industrial Index, a leading barometer of investor expectations,> was 7,446 points on average in February and March 2009. This is a very low> value compared to the highs of 2007, when the Dow Jones was in the> 12,000-14,000 range. In September and October 2009 it averaged 9,749> points, which is a rise of 31%. This is usually considered to reflect the> outlook for corporate earnings and hence the state of the economy. A rise> by one-third within a year is usually considered a major improvement in> the outlook for the economy. There is no doubt about it. Of course,> sometimes the investors misjudge things and events turn out differently,> but that is a different story. We can also add that the level of share> prices is still well below the> 2007 highs. Moreover, some of the increase in share prices is linked> to the massive infusion of money into the financial system by the> government since 2008. Now there are concerns this impact will not> be durable and as a result the outlook for the economy has been judged to> be more uncertain. Even the Secretary of the Treasury, Timothy Geitner,> has recently cautioned that economic growth will be sluggish going> forward. This is consistent with the 'trend' expectation of sluggish> growth during the Saturn period (February 2009-April 2012) based on the> SAMVA USA chart. Of course, transits, when strongly connecting in the> chart will take precedence over the trend influences. In this regard, it> has recently been discussed on SAMVA list that the transit influences in> the summer of 2010 will be highly adverse, with implications for the US> financial system and economy - and this usually has implications for the> financial systems and economies of> other countries around the globe.>> The number of bank failiures in the USA increased in the months of> September and October 2009. The amounts in the 10 months so far of this> year are far higher than the amounts in the closing months of 2008 even> if most of the banks involved appear to be quite small. More importantly,> this is generally seen to be a residual from last years crisis and the> stock market has taken these developments in stride, even improved.> However, the fall of CTI Group at the very end of October, came as> something of a surprise even if it had been in difficulty for a long time> and its failiure had been openly discussed in the media from July through> October of this year. Even then, the magnitude of the failiure of CTI> Group is only a small fraction of the cost of the banking collapses in> September 2008. The cost of Lehman Brothers and Washington Mutual was> easily 15 times greater. If we add to that the outlays involved in> the rescue of other financial> institutions like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Merril Lynch and AIG in> September 2008, it quickly becomes clear that the events of October 2009,> even if adverse, are nowhere near as serious of those over one year> earlier. In any event, the stock market also declined towards the end of> October 2009, while it remained close to the average value citied above.>> In short, predictions for 2009 including> - improvement in the financial markets from the commencement of the Saturn> period in February 2009> - for the outlook for the economy to improve from August 2009> have stood up quite well.>> The prediction for> - economic growth to be sluggish in the Saturn period> has so far been consistent with the data and statements of many notable> economists.>> Thor>>>> ________________________________> <vkchoudhry> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology > Wed, November 4, 2009 2:45:27 AM> Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Re: Transit> influences in 2010.>> Hello Jason,>> I add my replies to your Qs in your appended msg.>> >> -> jasonsmith108> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology > Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:36 AM> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Re: Transit> influences in 2010.>>> >> Dear ,>> I recently changed my email and ID, but I've been on this and> Thor's list for quite a while, although silent.> OK.> Thank you for your prediction and good work in helping humanity.> WELCOME.> I would like to ask some pointed questions, and I mean no disrespect in> the least. I ask your forgiveness in advance if it comes across that way.> WELCOME.> 1. You have previously predicted that the USA economy will improve, but> sluggishly in the Saturn subperiod that began early this year. By the real> numbers released by the government here, there has been no improvement> despite desperate media hype at times.>> DOW JONES INDEX SHOWS THINGS MOVING. IN MID MARCH INDEX WAS ABOUT 7880> AND NOW IT IS 9772.>> In fact, there has been slight worsening. However, the fall hasn't> continued as drastically.>> VOLATILITY IS THERE BY IT IS NOT DOWNWARD.>> Do you still believe that things will improve into the end of the Saturn> subperiod (March 2012) or have you changed your view through deeper> analysis?> YES AND I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY VIEWS.> 2. You gave a prediction that in the month of October, financial markets> will have a setback.>> I GAVE THIS PREDICTION ON 11TH OCTOBER, 2009.>> By my careful comparison and measure of global indices from the start to> the end of October, there was no serious setback.>> OK. WE CAN SAY SO. BUT FROM 11TH OCT TO END OF OCT THERE HAS BEEN THERE> HAS BEEN STRONG DOWNWARD MOVEMENT OF DJ INDEX ON 21ST, 23RD, 26TH, 28TH> AND 30 OCTOBER. THE PLANETARY INFLUENCES RESULTED IN WILDER VOLATILITY TO> IMPACT THE SENTIMENT.>> For the most part: a) everything was within the range on the monthly> charts, b) there were new highs in the October on many indices, c) most> markets closed the month higher than the month's open value. There was> nothing out of the ordinary for most of the month and the very last week> saw the pullback. I have seen on Thor's list some members giving praise to> this prediction, but it's not reflected in the numbers in the financial> markets, for which the prediction was meant.>> THE PRAISING MEMBERS MAY BE REFERRING TO INDIAN MARKETS WHERE THE> SETBACK WAS QUITE HARSH.>> I would like your input here - what metric are you using to measure> financial markets? In my humble view, it's not just enough to give a> prediction, but a metric must be used to compare the results before and> after.> I ONLY USE DJ INDEX AND SENSEX (INDIAN INDEX) TO MEASURE THE RESULTS> WITH REFERENCE TO THE PREDICTION.> 3. The tone of this most recent prediction below appears to be bleak. To> clarify, are you saying that the US economy is due to face further> setbacks and not improve? Or should we read that the Saturn subperiod> brings sluggish improvement, but expect further setbacks as well? If> that's what you are saying, then it's somewhat contrary - "It will> improve, and there will be setbacks." Perhaps you can clarify the outlook?> SLUGGISH IMPROVEMENT IS SEEN BUT THERE ARE OBSTRUCTIONS AND VOLATILITY.> Thank you sincerely Professor. I am one of your biggest fans and a> student of SA. And again, I apologize if this email doesn't go over well.> I am simply looking for clarification.> WE SHOULD EXAMINE THINGS CRITICALLY. THERE IS NO PROBLEM. YOU ARE> WELCOME.> Jason Smith>> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology , ""> <vkchoudhry wrote:> >> > Hello dear list members,> >> > The slow moving transit influences of Rahu, Ketu, Jupiter and Saturn> in USA SAMVA chart indicate that the economic and general conditions find> persistent more challenges in 2010. I know this is not a good news but> planetary indications are such. This will impact other countries of the> world, as well. Health, financial instability and professional instability> will be the main concerns. Aggressive, hasty actions and persisting> obstructions will add salt to the injury.> >> > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com> > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India).> > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Thank you very much, Thor. It is always good to have something to look foward to, no matter how far away it may be. Lila Hello Lila, > > I have written many times about the upcoming " Sun major period " in the > SAMVA USA chart. A search in the SAMVA archives revealed the following, > but I have written more. > > Message on SAMVA on April 25, 2009: > " On April 2016, the Sun major period begins in the SAMVA USA chart. It > would likely be a time when the status of the USA in the world is > reinvigorated. " > > Message on SAMVA on March 15, 2009: > " In 2016, when the Sun major period rolls around, a resurgence of US power > on the world stage would be expected. " > > Message on SAMVA on February 22, 2009: > " ...the Sun major period...should be a very positive period. " > > Message on SAMVA on November 22, 2008: > " ...the long term pessimism regarding the international power and > influence of the USA in the world is likely overstated given that a very > powerful Sun major period begins in 2016. " > > Message on SAMVA on March 16, 2008: > " In the up coming SUN MAJOR PERIOD (April 2016 - April 2022) we can expect > some similarity with the developments in the 1896-1902 period. " > > Thor > > > > > ________________________________ > " lila " <lila > SAMVA > Wed, November 4, 2009 4:38:45 PM > The Good News Is...... > > Dear Group, > > One enormously good piece of news is that if the US is in VE/SA right now, > in about 6 years, it should go into SU/SU. > > My PL does not go back far enough to cast the US chart, but it seems it > would about then. I'd hope the US would be in a much much better position. > In SU/SU the sun should shine brightly in our country, no pun intended. > > Would the professor and Thor please comment on the flavor of SU/SU period > for the US, and the turn around I am assuming we would see. Six years > seems like a long time, but anyone who has children knows it goes by in > the bat of an eye. > > Thank you. > > Lila > > > > t seems Hello my dear and list members, >> >> We have discussed these issues quite extensively on SAMVA list, but >> allow >> me to mention a few things on this list as the issue has also been >> raised >> here. >> >> First, there are two things to keep in mind when evaluating the economy. >> The 'state of the economy' is different from its prospects, that is, if >> the economy is expected to improve or not going forward. In your >> prediction for the fall of 2009, you were discussing the latter. Indeed, >> the outlook for the US economy improved in the autumn months of 2009 as >> predicted. There is no doubt about that. Even then, the state of the >> economy is still far from good, with unemployment high and output levels >> still below those of 2008. >> >> Gross Domestic Output (GDP) is estimated to have stopped declining in >> the >> 3rd quarter of 2009 (July-Sept). Future re-estimates may likely increase >> the GDP in that quarter. Further, the estimate for the 4th quarter >> (Oct-Dec) 2009 is only expected sometime in early 2010. So, it is too >> early to pass final judgement on the outturn for the second half of this >> year. That said, it is clear 2009 in total will be a year of recession. >> The question is only how much did output contract compared to 2008. Most >> estimates are now around -2 per cent. The outlook for the future, at any >> given time, however, is what the question concerns. In September, the >> outlook for the economy seems to have improved as predicted - even if >> there is also some hype in the media and the government statistics is >> focused on the improvement and not the year-over-year comparison. >> >> The sharp increase in the stock market (since Spring 2009) is usually >> taken as a sign of increased investor optimism for the future of the >> economy. In this regard, we can note that the average value of the Dow >> Jones Industrial Index, a leading barometer of investor expectations, >> was 7,446 points on average in February and March 2009. This is a very >> low >> value compared to the highs of 2007, when the Dow Jones was in the >> 12,000-14,000 range. In September and October 2009 it averaged 9,749 >> points, which is a rise of 31%. This is usually considered to reflect >> the >> outlook for corporate earnings and hence the state of the economy. A >> rise >> by one-third within a year is usually considered a major improvement in >> the outlook for the economy. There is no doubt about it. Of course, >> sometimes the investors misjudge things and events turn out differently, >> but that is a different story. We can also add that the level of share >> prices is still well below the >> 2007 highs. Moreover, some of the increase in share prices is linked >> to the massive infusion of money into the financial system by the >> government since 2008. Now there are concerns this impact will not >> be durable and as a result the outlook for the economy has been judged >> to >> be more uncertain. Even the Secretary of the Treasury, Timothy Geitner, >> has recently cautioned that economic growth will be sluggish going >> forward. This is consistent with the 'trend' expectation of sluggish >> growth during the Saturn period (February 2009-April 2012) based on the >> SAMVA USA chart. Of course, transits, when strongly connecting in the >> chart will take precedence over the trend influences. In this regard, it >> has recently been discussed on SAMVA list that the transit influences in >> the summer of 2010 will be highly adverse, with implications for the US >> financial system and economy - and this usually has implications for the >> financial systems and economies of >> other countries around the globe. >> >> The number of bank failiures in the USA increased in the months of >> September and October 2009. The amounts in the 10 months so far of this >> year are far higher than the amounts in the closing months of 2008 even >> if most of the banks involved appear to be quite small. More >> importantly, >> this is generally seen to be a residual from last years crisis and the >> stock market has taken these developments in stride, even improved. >> However, the fall of CTI Group at the very end of October, came as >> something of a surprise even if it had been in difficulty for a long >> time >> and its failiure had been openly discussed in the media from July >> through >> October of this year. Even then, the magnitude of the failiure of CTI >> Group is only a small fraction of the cost of the banking collapses in >> September 2008. The cost of Lehman Brothers and Washington Mutual was >> easily 15 times greater. If we add to that the outlays involved in >> the rescue of other financial >> institutions like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Merril Lynch and AIG in >> September 2008, it quickly becomes clear that the events of October >> 2009, >> even if adverse, are nowhere near as serious of those over one year >> earlier. In any event, the stock market also declined towards the end of >> October 2009, while it remained close to the average value citied above. >> >> In short, predictions for 2009 including >> - improvement in the financial markets from the commencement of the >> Saturn >> period in February 2009 >> - for the outlook for the economy to improve from August 2009 >> have stood up quite well. >> >> The prediction for >> - economic growth to be sluggish in the Saturn period >> has so far been consistent with the data and statements of many notable >> economists. >> >> Thor >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> <vkchoudhry >> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology >> Wed, November 4, 2009 2:45:27 AM >> Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Re: Transit >> influences in 2010. >> >> Hello Jason, >> >> I add my replies to your Qs in your appended msg. >> >> >> >> - >> jasonsmith108 >> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology >> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:36 AM >> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Re: Transit >> influences in 2010. >> >> >> >> >> Dear , >> >> I recently changed my email and ID, but I've been on this and >> Thor's list for quite a while, although silent. >> OK. >> Thank you for your prediction and good work in helping humanity. >> WELCOME. >> I would like to ask some pointed questions, and I mean no disrespect >> in >> the least. I ask your forgiveness in advance if it comes across that >> way. >> WELCOME. >> 1. You have previously predicted that the USA economy will improve, >> but >> sluggishly in the Saturn subperiod that began early this year. By the >> real >> numbers released by the government here, there has been no improvement >> despite desperate media hype at times. >> >> DOW JONES INDEX SHOWS THINGS MOVING. IN MID MARCH INDEX WAS ABOUT 7880 >> AND NOW IT IS 9772. >> >> In fact, there has been slight worsening. However, the fall hasn't >> continued as drastically. >> >> VOLATILITY IS THERE BY IT IS NOT DOWNWARD. >> >> Do you still believe that things will improve into the end of the >> Saturn >> subperiod (March 2012) or have you changed your view through deeper >> analysis? >> YES AND I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY VIEWS. >> 2. You gave a prediction that in the month of October, financial >> markets >> will have a setback. >> >> I GAVE THIS PREDICTION ON 11TH OCTOBER, 2009. >> >> By my careful comparison and measure of global indices from the start >> to >> the end of October, there was no serious setback. >> >> OK. WE CAN SAY SO. BUT FROM 11TH OCT TO END OF OCT THERE HAS BEEN >> THERE >> HAS BEEN STRONG DOWNWARD MOVEMENT OF DJ INDEX ON 21ST, 23RD, 26TH, 28TH >> AND 30 OCTOBER. THE PLANETARY INFLUENCES RESULTED IN WILDER VOLATILITY >> TO >> IMPACT THE SENTIMENT. >> >> For the most part: a) everything was within the range on the monthly >> charts, b) there were new highs in the October on many indices, c) most >> markets closed the month higher than the month's open value. There was >> nothing out of the ordinary for most of the month and the very last week >> saw the pullback. I have seen on Thor's list some members giving praise >> to >> this prediction, but it's not reflected in the numbers in the financial >> markets, for which the prediction was meant. >> >> THE PRAISING MEMBERS MAY BE REFERRING TO INDIAN MARKETS WHERE THE >> SETBACK WAS QUITE HARSH. >> >> I would like your input here - what metric are you using to measure >> financial markets? In my humble view, it's not just enough to give a >> prediction, but a metric must be used to compare the results before and >> after. >> I ONLY USE DJ INDEX AND SENSEX (INDIAN INDEX) TO MEASURE THE RESULTS >> WITH REFERENCE TO THE PREDICTION. >> 3. The tone of this most recent prediction below appears to be bleak. >> To >> clarify, are you saying that the US economy is due to face further >> setbacks and not improve? Or should we read that the Saturn subperiod >> brings sluggish improvement, but expect further setbacks as well? If >> that's what you are saying, then it's somewhat contrary - " It will >> improve, and there will be setbacks. " Perhaps you can clarify the >> outlook? >> SLUGGISH IMPROVEMENT IS SEEN BUT THERE ARE OBSTRUCTIONS AND >> VOLATILITY. >> Thank you sincerely Professor. I am one of your biggest fans and a >> student of SA. And again, I apologize if this email doesn't go over >> well. >> I am simply looking for clarification. >> WE SHOULD EXAMINE THINGS CRITICALLY. THERE IS NO PROBLEM. YOU ARE >> WELCOME. >> Jason Smith >> >> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology , " " >> <vkchoudhry wrote: >> > >> > Hello dear list members, >> > >> > The slow moving transit influences of Rahu, Ketu, Jupiter and Saturn >> in USA SAMVA chart indicate that the economic and general conditions >> find >> persistent more challenges in 2010. I know this is not a good news but >> planetary indications are such. This will impact other countries of the >> world, as well. Health, financial instability and professional >> instability >> will be the main concerns. Aggressive, hasty actions and persisting >> obstructions will add salt to the injury. >> > >> > >> > www.YourNetAstrologer.com >> > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). >> > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333 >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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