Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hello Thor: Good call on this: The lifting of 2) prompted me to predict an improvement in the value of the dollar. However, a closer analysis of the Sun and Moon in transit, showed that this could be delayed, as you also suggest for reasons not explained. The transits in the chart are quite mixed. The period influence is also hard to read, as the sub-period belongs to Saturn as 8th lord and it natally aspects the Sun. Will this bring obstacles or easy gains? That said, we can follow the market today, to see if the transit of Moon into Pisces, albeit into the aspect of natal 6th lord Jupiter, and transit of Sun conjunct natal Mars will manage to help the dollar, even if interest rates are so low (as Jupiter is weak) How long would you expect this bounce to last? Warmly, John ====================================================================== Cosmologer wrote:  Hello list,  Interesting isn´t it!?  Gold Drops Most Since January After Dollar Index Extends Gains Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Gold dropped the most since January in London as gains in the dollar damped demand for the precious metal as an alternative asset. The U.S. Dollar Index, a six-currency gauge of the currency’s value, extended its rebound from a 15-month low after Dubai’s efforts to reschedule its debt rattled investors. Prices of other precious metals, crude oil and all six main industrial metals on the London Metal Exchange declined. Gold climbed to a record yesterday. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive & sid=afW7N2C1hAt8  That said, the dollar is still at a very low level.  Thor __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4642 (20091127) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Thank you John, It requires much analysis of the transits and I don´t have time to do it now. Perhaps other list members are interested to try their hand at performing such analysis. Let us just keep in mind that: 1. the Sun and Moon and 2nd and 11th houses and their lords are most important for currency strength 2. a single national chart is only the other part of the outcome. To confidently predict we would analyse the other country. With regard to the euro-area and Japan there are only tentative (exploratory) charts. For the USD/GBP we have the UK chart. For India, we also have the chart there. So, perhaps the exchange rate between these countries would be the most interesting one to examine. 3. In the SAMVA USA chart, the transit placement of Moon is important. The Moon will be strong and unafflicted until it becomes conjunct Rahu on Monday, Nov. 30. It will then become opposite to Jupiter on late Tuesday Dec 1 or early Wednesday Dec 2 and opposite 8th lord Saturn on Thursday Dec 3. It will then enter Gemini and 12th house on late Thursday Dec. 3, so it would likely be weak on Friday Dec 4th and then strengthen on Monday Dec. 7, etc. 4. We would then need to analyse the Sun in a like manner for the USA. 5. We would also need to analyse other dynamics in the chart to round out the picture - both in terms of short run dynamics and a longer term trend. It is not an easy analysis as many influences are comingling in the final outcome. 6. Finally, we must remind ourselves that these are not mathematical laws. Karma is mysterious. Our minds may not comprehend the overall influences even when studying a chart with a true method. We must retain our humility that we are not perfect beings. However, an honest effort at analysis usually brings us to the point where we can predict in such a manner that we have the probability on our side. Most people, without astrology, have only 50-50 odds, due to unexpected factors. In the US dollar case, the karma was that a crisis in Dubai strengthened the dollar when all were extremely pessimistic for it. While we couldn´t foretell the event, the transits nevertheless suggested a strengthening. Hope this helps. Thor Dr. John D. Andre <drjdandreSAMVA Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 3:07:52 PM The US dollar Hello Thor:Good call on this: The lifting of 2) prompted me to predict an improvement in the value of the dollar. However, a closer analysis of the Sun and Moon in transit, showed that this could be delayed, as you also suggest for reasons not explained. The transits in the chart are quite mixed. The period influence is also hard to read, as the sub-period belongs to Saturn as 8th lord and it natally aspects the Sun. Will this bring obstacles or easy gains? That said, we can follow the market today, to see if the transit of Moon into Pisces, albeit into the aspect of natal 6th lord Jupiter, and transit of Sun conjunct natal Mars will manage to help the dollar, even if interest rates are so low (as Jupiter is weak) How long would you expect this bounce to last?Warmly, John======================================================================Cosmologer wrote: Hello list, Interesting isn´t it!? Gold Drops Most Since January After Dollar Index Extends Gains Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Gold dropped the most since January in London as gains in the dollar damped demand for the precious metal as an alternative asset. The U.S. Dollar Index, a six-currency gauge of the currency’s value, extended its rebound from a 15-month low after Dubai’s efforts to reschedule its debt rattled investors. Prices of other precious metals, crude oil and all six main industrial metals on the London Metal Exchange declined. Gold climbed to a record yesterday. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive & sid=afW7N2C1hAt8 That said, the dollar is still at a very low level. Thor__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4642 (20091127) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hello dear list members, It looks like the Dubai's debt woes have had a bigger effect on market sentiment than initially thought. Sovereign debt default, linked to emerging market economies, as well as highly indebted Japan, is now a growing concern, with credit default swaps rising rapidly. At the same time, there is concern being expressed that securities markets (where governments and firms borrow) could suffer a melt down such that interest rates shoot up. If such a dramatic worsening of sentiments were to take place, this would represent a stage 2 of the crisis that began last fall. Dubai Crisis May End in ‘Major’ Default, BofA Says Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Dubai’s debt woes may worsen to become a “major sovereign default†that roils developing nations and cuts off capital flows to emerging markets, Bank of America Corp. said. “One cannot rule out -- as a tail risk -- a case where this would escalate into a major sovereign default problem, which would then resonate across global emerging markets in the same way that Argentina did in the early 2000s or Russia in the late 1990s,†Bank of America strategists Benoit Anne and Daniel Tenengauzer wrote in a report. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087 & sid=a8RD8uqjoLCQ & pos=2 Other headlines: - U.S. Stocks, Commodities Slide as Bonds, Dollar Gain on Dubai Debt Crisis - Dubai Debt May Exceed $80 Billion on Off-Balance-Sheet Liability, UBS Says That said, the tremors have led to a strengthening of the dollar. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 4:08:40 PMRe: The US dollar Thank you John, It requires much analysis of the transits and I don´t have time to do it now. Perhaps other list members are interested to try their hand at performing such analysis. Let us just keep in mind that: 1. the Sun and Moon and 2nd and 11th houses and their lords are most important for currency strength 2. a single national chart is only the other part of the outcome. To confidently predict we would analyse the other country. With regard to the euro-area and Japan there are only tentative (exploratory) charts. For the USD/GBP we have the UK chart. For India, we also have the chart there. So, perhaps the exchange rate between these countries would be the most interesting one to examine. 3. In the SAMVA USA chart, the transit placement of Moon is important. The Moon will be strong and unafflicted until it becomes conjunct Rahu on Monday, Nov. 30. It will then become opposite to Jupiter on late Tuesday Dec 1 or early Wednesday Dec 2 and opposite 8th lord Saturn on Thursday Dec 3. It will then enter Gemini and 12th house on late Thursday Dec. 3, so it would likely be weak on Friday Dec 4th and then strengthen on Monday Dec. 7, etc. 4. We would then need to analyse the Sun in a like manner for the USA. 5. We would also need to analyse other dynamics in the chart to round out the picture - both in terms of short run dynamics and a longer term trend. It is not an easy analysis as many influences are comingling in the final outcome. 6. Finally, we must remind ourselves that these are not mathematical laws. Karma is mysterious. Our minds may not comprehend the overall influences even when studying a chart with a true method. We must retain our humility that we are not perfect beings. However, an honest effort at analysis usually brings us to the point where we can predict in such a manner that we have the probability on our side. Most people, without astrology, have only 50-50 odds, due to unexpected factors. In the US dollar case, the karma was that a crisis in Dubai strengthened the dollar when all were extremely pessimistic for it. While we couldn´t foretell the event, the transits nevertheless suggested a strengthening. Hope this helps. Thor Dr. John D. Andre <drjdandreSAMVA Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 3:07:52 PM The US dollar Hello Thor:Good call on this: The lifting of 2) prompted me to predict an improvement in the value of the dollar. However, a closer analysis of the Sun and Moon in transit, showed that this could be delayed, as you also suggest for reasons not explained. The transits in the chart are quite mixed. The period influence is also hard to read, as the sub-period belongs to Saturn as 8th lord and it natally aspects the Sun. Will this bring obstacles or easy gains? That said, we can follow the market today, to see if the transit of Moon into Pisces, albeit into the aspect of natal 6th lord Jupiter, and transit of Sun conjunct natal Mars will manage to help the dollar, even if interest rates are so low (as Jupiter is weak) How long would you expect this bounce to last?Warmly, John======================================================================Cosmologer wrote: Hello list, Interesting isn´t it!? Gold Drops Most Since January After Dollar Index Extends Gains Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Gold dropped the most since January in London as gains in the dollar damped demand for the precious metal as an alternative asset. The U.S. Dollar Index, a six-currency gauge of the currency’s value, extended its rebound from a 15-month low after Dubai’s efforts to reschedule its debt rattled investors. Prices of other precious metals, crude oil and all six main industrial metals on the London Metal Exchange declined. Gold climbed to a record yesterday. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive & sid=afW7N2C1hAt8 That said, the dollar is still at a very low level. Thor__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4642 (20091127) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Hello list, The dollar has dropped as transit Moon has entered Taurus and 11th house where it comes under the affliction of natal 6th lord Jupiter at 4° 25' Scorpio and 5th house and natal 8th lord Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio. The outlook for the dollar this week is not good in view of these aspects but also the fact that the transit of the Moon through Gemini and 12th house then follows. Stocks, Commodities Rise on Dubai, China; Dollar Weakens Dec. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Stocks rallied from Shanghai to New York and the dollar slid as Dubai World said it’s in talks to restructure less than half its debt and Chinese manufacturing grew at the fastest pace in five years. Treasury 10-year notes dropped for the first time in six days. The MSCI World Index advanced 1.7 percent at 11:01 a.m. in New York and the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index added 1 percent. The dollar weakened against 14 of the 16 most-traded currencies, Gold rose to a record and oil climbed more than 1 percent. The yen sank as much as 1.3 percent versus the U.S. currency, the most in seven weeks, on speculation the Bank of Japan will try to limit gains even after keeping interest rates unchanged at an emergency meeting today. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087 & sid=a_jbkdGQJAi8 & pos=1 Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 4:08:40 PMRe: The US dollar Thank you John, It requires much analysis of the transits and I don´t have time to do it now. Perhaps other list members are interested to try their hand at performing such analysis. Let us just keep in mind that: 1. the Sun and Moon and 2nd and 11th houses and their lords are most important for currency strength 2. a single national chart is only the other part of the outcome. To confidently predict we would analyse the other country. With regard to the euro-area and Japan there are only tentative (exploratory) charts. For the USD/GBP we have the UK chart. For India, we also have the chart there. So, perhaps the exchange rate between these countries would be the most interesting one to examine. 3. In the SAMVA USA chart, the transit placement of Moon is important. The Moon will be strong and unafflicted until it becomes conjunct Rahu on Monday, Nov. 30. It will then become opposite to Jupiter on late Tuesday Dec 1 or early Wednesday Dec 2 and opposite 8th lord Saturn on Thursday Dec 3. It will then enter Gemini and 12th house on late Thursday Dec. 3, so it would likely be weak on Friday Dec 4th and then strengthen on Monday Dec. 7, etc. 4. We would then need to analyse the Sun in a like manner for the USA. 5. We would also need to analyse other dynamics in the chart to round out the picture - both in terms of short run dynamics and a longer term trend. It is not an easy analysis as many influences are comingling in the final outcome. 6. Finally, we must remind ourselves that these are not mathematical laws. Karma is mysterious. Our minds may not comprehend the overall influences even when studying a chart with a true method. We must retain our humility that we are not perfect beings. However, an honest effort at analysis usually brings us to the point where we can predict in such a manner that we have the probability on our side. Most people, without astrology, have only 50-50 odds, due to unexpected factors. In the US dollar case, the karma was that a crisis in Dubai strengthened the dollar when all were extremely pessimistic for it. While we couldn´t foretell the event, the transits nevertheless suggested a strengthening. Hope this helps. Thor Dr. John D. Andre <drjdandreSAMVA Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 3:07:52 PM The US dollar Hello Thor:Good call on this: The lifting of 2) prompted me to predict an improvement in the value of the dollar. However, a closer analysis of the Sun and Moon in transit, showed that this could be delayed, as you also suggest for reasons not explained. The transits in the chart are quite mixed. The period influence is also hard to read, as the sub-period belongs to Saturn as 8th lord and it natally aspects the Sun. Will this bring obstacles or easy gains? That said, we can follow the market today, to see if the transit of Moon into Pisces, albeit into the aspect of natal 6th lord Jupiter, and transit of Sun conjunct natal Mars will manage to help the dollar, even if interest rates are so low (as Jupiter is weak) How long would you expect this bounce to last?Warmly, John======================================================================Cosmologer wrote: Hello list, Interesting isn´t it!? Gold Drops Most Since January After Dollar Index Extends Gains Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Gold dropped the most since January in London as gains in the dollar damped demand for the precious metal as an alternative asset. The U.S. Dollar Index, a six-currency gauge of the currency’s value, extended its rebound from a 15-month low after Dubai’s efforts to reschedule its debt rattled investors. Prices of other precious metals, crude oil and all six main industrial metals on the London Metal Exchange declined. Gold climbed to a record yesterday. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive & sid=afW7N2C1hAt8 That said, the dollar is still at a very low level. Thor__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4642 (20091127) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hello dear Jason, It is true, only a few become wealthy in financial investing. Observed humane behaviour spans a broad range of proclivities and motivation. Importantly, the effort is not to use astrology with the aim of becoming rich. The reason to do so at the mundane level is because during the present Capitalist age, the development of financial activity has implications for all. Finanicial data are also exceedingly easy to obtain, enabling us to gauge the fluctuating sentiments on the markets in terms of the astrology of an authentic mundane chart. The making of predictions of more or less strain in financial markets has been shown to be possible. However, the forecasting of currency values is hard as so many factors impinge on it, including influences in other (and in many cases unobserved) national charts. Moreover, it is one thing to make predictions on such phenomena based on long experience and another to do so based on astrology. We have been discussing rather openly on SAMVA list what may happen for the dollar based on an astrological reading of the SAMVA USA chart. A strengthening of the dollar is quite possible at this time, as you also suggest. As you and others here may not have followed much of the discussion on SAMVA list so I summarise some of it here for your benefit. In terms of the SAMVA USA chart, these are the things we are following VENUS-SATURN PERIOD - Venus major period involves Venus as 4th lord badly placed in the 6th house, which is afflicted by Rahu and the 4th house is afflicted by Ketu. 6th lord Jupiter is well placed in the 5th house, in aspect with an exalted 1st lord Moon in the 11th house. There has been lot of infrastructure development. Supremely rich people have emerged based on some market based activity. Social fairness issues have become descisive. Housing has become the source of a housing bubble and financial crash. This period lasts until April 2016. - Saturn sub-period involves Saturn as 8th lord well placed in Scorpio and 5th house but in slight old age and aspecting Sun as 2nd lord. Ketu afflicts the 8th house of obstacles and endings, easy gains and beliefs of the people. This period is expected to bring a sluggish development of the economy, a focus on traditional activities and things mined from the ground, difficulties for the US President and perhaps sudden disturbing events. JUPITER - transit stationary and debilitated 6th lord Jupiter at 23° 20' Capricorn and 7th house is conjunct natal 2nd lord Sun at 23° 44' Capricorn in the autumn months of 2009. This transit brought concerns about the debt and the dollar, as predicted. The value of the dollar became very low. - transit Jupiter begins to leave the conjunction of the Sun in the third week of November. Some improvement in the value of the dollar expected, given also the strength of Sun and Moon in transit. - transit Jupiter, while in the 7th house, enters into aspect of natal 8th lord Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio and 5th house. Violent events possible (several multiple murders seen). Obstacles to financial stability and banks. - transit Jupiter entering Aquarius and the 8th house of the chart. Weakeness and problems for monetary policy and financial stability. SATURN - transit 8th lord Saturn aspects natal 6th lord Jupiter in autumn months of 2009. Violent events seen. Problems for financial stability and banks. - transit stationary Saturn at 10° Virgo and 3rd house closely asepcts natal 10th lord Mars at 10° Scorpio and 5th house in late 2009 and early 2010. Obstacles for the military and police. Problems for manufacturing industry and foreign trade. One source of problem for industry and trade could be a stronger dollar, if other factors support. RAHU - transit stationary Rahu at 27° Sagittarius and 6th house (and Ketu in Gemini/12th) is conjunct natal 4th lord Venus at 23° 50' Sagittarius in late 2009 and early 2010. This is likely to disturb the sentiments, the housing market and communal harmony. -transit stationary Rahu at 18° Sagittarius and 6th house in aspect to natal Rahu at 17° 47' Aries and 10th house in summer of 2010. This is likely to bring a fresh upset to the market, perhaps a second round for the present crisis. KETU - transit stationary Ketu at 18° Gemini and 12th house in aspect to natal Ketu at 18° Libra and 4th house in summer of 2010. This asepct could result in a sudden upsetting event. MARS - transit debilitation of 10th lord Mars in Cancer and 1st house during the 4th quarter of 2009 and first half of 2010. Foreign trade and manufacturing industry become more prominent, but weakness is seen. JUPITER-SATURN - transit 8th lord Saturn in early Virgo and 3rd house in mutual aspect to transit 6th lord Jupiter in Pisces and 9th house in summer of 2010. For part of this time, natal 6th lord Jupiter will be aspected by the transit planets. These aspect is likely to produce violent events and difficulty for easy gains, financial stability, etc.. Agains, mirroring what we see around us, not many people have strong karma in their charts for wealth by investing or speculation. Fewer still also have an interest in astrology or the spiritual side of life. For others, there may karma that actually indicates a danger of losses in financial or housing investments. The range of human experiences is broad indeed! The value of astrology is that it shows ones capabilities as well as limits and how to manage. The wise heed its advice and work with what they have. Contented persons are grateful for their gifts and humble in the presence of their limits. In my view, it is helpful to have an interest in astrology and the spiritual side of life and a real blessing to come across a great teacher like . Thor jason smith <jasonsmith108SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 5:41:55 PMRe: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] The US dollarLet us wait and see if my prediction for a stronger dollar in December andJanuary comes true.On another note, a person is better off reading a high quality weeklypublication on the US and Global economies than keeping up with thesensational flavor of the hour.When numbers come in, like unemployment, we should use 10% change, as ruleof thumb to gauge if its worth mentioning. Check significant lows/highs,add/subtract 10% and that gives you a good idea how things are moving.Regarding financial markets and equities, I think that this will remain amystery to most astrologers. If this knowledge is firmly in hand, one maybecome extremely wealthy. We can see from the natal chart of manyastrologers that such is unlikely.The move of Jupiter to Aquarius isn't positive for the USA for all 6H,andbank concerns.Jason SmithOn Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:>>> Hello dear Jason,>> We certainly live in interesting times.>> Reading the economy and the dollar is not easy, not only due to problems of> analysing many influences, but also due to the global nature of influences.> Allow me however, to ad a few comments. While my aim is to help clarify the> many issues involved from an economic and astrological standpoint, I realise> it may also complicate the picture. Hopefully, we can at least begin to see> the main strands of the factors involved.>> First, the assessment of the strength of the US dollar could acknowledge> that the weakness of the dollar at the present time owes primarily to three> factors>> 1) the extraordinarily low interest rates in the USA (due to the financial> crash and recession). This situation has created an outflow out of US dollar> based capital in the so-called 'carry trade' which many worry may create a> new bubble in the global economy. The low interest rates in Japan created a> similar carry trade in the recent global bubble.> The debiliation of Jupiter in transit is likely the chief astrological> factor associated with the weakness of US monetary policy. This weakness is> likely to be with us after Jupiter moves through Aquarius and 8th house in> the SAMVA USA chart.>> 2) concerns that the time of Pax Americana, the dominance of the US dollar> as an international reserve currency, is over.> The astrological explanation for this is the recent station of Jupiter as> 6th lord conjunct natal 2nd lord Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. This affliction> is now lifting.>> The lifting of 2) prompted me to predict an improvement in the value of the> dollar. However, a closer analysis of the Sun and Moon in transit, showed> that this could be delayed, as you also suggest for reasons not explained.> The transits in the chart are quite mixed. The period influence is also hard> to read, as the sub-period belongs to Saturn as 8th lord and it natally> aspects the Sun. Will this bring obstacles or easy gains? That said, we can> follow the market today, to see if the transit of Moon into Pisces, albeit> into the aspect of natal 6th lord Jupiter, and transit of Sun conjunct natal> Mars will manage to help the dollar, even if interest rates are so low (as> Jupiter is weak)>> 3) The dollar is also influenced by the US trade balance.> Actually, for the past two decades there has been a concern that a> "disorderly adjustment" in the dollar could be provoked by the persisting US> trade deficits and evers increasing foreign debt of the USA. This is> undoubtedly a big factor in 2).>> In the SAMVA USA chart, Mars as 10th lord rules foreign trade. The MEP of> the 10th house is afflicted by Rahu (and Ketu), suggesting problems of> manipulation involving this area of national life. Looking at transit Rahu,> we see it has recently moved into the 6th house of financial stability> (problems with debt). This suggests, concerns over financial stability may> become pronounced, especially when it afflicts natal 4th lord Venus (fixed> assets), the MEPs of the houses involved at 20° and its own natal placement> at 18° Aries. So next year we need to watch this. Moreover, the strong natal> 10th lord Mars at 10° Scorpio and 5th house will soon become afflicted by a> stationary 8th lord Saturn at 10° Virgo and 3rd house. This is likely to> bring strains involving obstacles and endings to the indications of Mars.> Fortunately, Mars is strong an well apsected by natal 1st lord Moon,> protecting these indications. In short, the US dollar could become involved> in this situation, albeit it is hard to see how in the globally> interconnected world. How will the low interest rates, some improvement in> the US economy and problems with trade affect the dollar? How will the low> dollar affect the trade? It should help reduce imports and raise exports,> but is that happening?>> As for the state of the US economy, yesterday, the number of new claimants> of unemployment benefits has declined more than expected. Earlier consumer> demand figures were seen to improve. Housing starts was also registering> some improvement. So, in fact, the anecdotal data has continued to paint a> picture of gradual improvement in the economy, even if it is of course in a> sorry state.>> Thor>>> ________________________________> jason smith <jasonsmith108 <jasonsmith108%40gmail.com>>> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology <SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology%40>> Wed, November 25, 2009 6:48:17 PM> Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Happy Thanksgiving!>> Dear List members,>> I second the gratitude for Professor C and the SA. Here in the USA, I hope> that we can all be grateful for what we do have and give to others with our> full hearts. And God willing, we'll receive the same.>> On another note: If there is a chance for the USD to strengthen, it can> come> in the months of December and January. The GDP numbers for the USA came out> recently and they have painted a poor picture of the economy. The> fluctuations in job and housing numbers should continue for a while and> keep> giving avid news followers and reporters a warped picture.>> Jason Smith>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Shayn Smith <mactunesmith<mactunesmith%40>> >wrote:>> >> >> > Dear and List Members,> > As we approach the Thanksgiving holiday in the U.S., I would like to take> > this time to offer thanks for the remarkable gift of Systems' Approach to> > Vedic Astrology given to us by . Also, much admiration> and> > appreciation go out to the list members who faithfully promote SATVA and> > share their wonderful wisdom on these lists, including dear Thor who> > tirelessly produces brilliant insights into the mundane sphere.> >> > I have learned so much from all of you...> >> > Warm regards,> > Shayn Smith> > Boulder, Colorado> > USA> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Hello list members, In the past it has proved challenging to predict the relative value of the dollar in terms of other currencies, especially when doing so based on only one national horoscope. In this case, one does not know what the influence in other country or countries is going to be at a given time. Such analysis enables us to discuss the conditions in one chart only, and at best it would give some indication. Even then, a currency value is some of the most difficult to analyse and predict as behavior on the foreign exchange market is driven by a multitude of changing considerations. That said, the dollar strengthened yesterday. Dollar Rises Most Since 1999 Versus Yen as Fed Bets Increase Dec. 5 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar posted its biggest gain since February 1999 against the yen as a better-than-forecast non-farm payrolls report encouraged traders to boost bets on Federal Reserve interest rate increases. The yen fell this week against all of its 16 major counterparts on speculation Japan’s currency will regain its status as the primary funding vehicle for higher-yielding investments. The euro dropped against the Mexican peso and Polish zloty as demand increased for riskier assets that offer more returns. The Fed holds its last policy-setting meeting of the year on Dec. 16. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087 & sid=asuTKrJrCCVA & pos=2 I had earlier suggested the dollar could begin to strengthen on a trend basis. After strengthening for a few days in the 4th week of November, it weakened again in end November and early December. The key factor for a trend strengthening dollar was the clearing of the conjunction aspect of transit stationary Jupiter to natal Sun. Importantly, this analysis ignored the day to day transits of the planets considered important for the currency in the SAMVA USA chart. Sun, Moon, 2nd house and 11th house are considered important. 2nd lord Sun is placed in the 7th house and 1st lord Moon is placed in the 11th house, giving the US dollar a strong position in the world, even if its value fluctuates. This is seen in the willingness of foreigners to invest in dollar based assets. Now which of the currency indications may be more important. As the Sun is both the Sun (obviously) and 2nd lord, i.e. embodies two of the four currency indications in the Cancer rising chart, more import should likely be given to its influence than that of the Moon. That said, the Moon is placed in the 11th house, which is the fourth indication in this respect. While the major aspect involving Jupiter is clearing, the natal Sun should benefit. However, the transits of Sun and/or Moon need to be examined in this regard, as mentioned earlier, when predicting the course of the dollar. I hinted the dollar might strengthen next Monday when the Moon had also become strong in transit, but at the same time invited others to do the whole analysis, including the position of the Sun in transit. No one did. Well, I looked at the transits yesterday and found on the positive side for the Sun, - transit 2nd lord Sun moved more closely into a conjunction of the MEP of 5th house, from where it aspects the 11th house. - transit Jupiter continued to move away from natal Sun. - transit 10th lord Mars, albeit debilitated, closely aspects natal 2nd house Sun on the negative side for the Moon, -transit Moon was still in 12th house, from where it passed through aspect of natal Ketu. In sum, three of four indications (Sun, 2nd lord, 11th house) were strong, while Moon was weak and afflicted. This seems to have been sufficient for the dollar to strengthen. Moreover, we do still not know the unobserved variable, the transit and period influences in the other country's charts. On Monday, December 7, 2009, when Moon moves into Cancer and 1st house and Sun is still in MEP of 5th house, while not yet afflicted by natal Saturn as 8th lord, on the US side we could expect that the dollar would hold its ground and even strengthen further as all the currency indications will be strong. That said, we do not know the state of the unobserved non-US variable. Will it strengthen or weaken, after all this is a relative value that we are considering. We really don´t know unless someone analyses the respective charts. In any event, we can see what happens. We should also note that the transits in the SAMVA USA chart have become difficult in a number of respects, as indicated in my message yesterday. In view of the complex transit picture, I suggest we simply observe the value of the dollar over the course of coming weeks. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 4:39:54 PMRe: The US dollar Hello list, The dollar has dropped as transit Moon has entered Taurus and 11th house where it comes under the affliction of natal 6th lord Jupiter at 4° 25' Scorpio and 5th house and natal 8th lord Saturn at 26° 46' Scorpio. The outlook for the dollar this week is not good in view of these aspects but also the fact that the transit of the Moon through Gemini and 12th house then follows. Stocks, Commodities Rise on Dubai, China; Dollar Weakens Dec. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Stocks rallied from Shanghai to New York and the dollar slid as Dubai World said it’s in talks to restructure less than half its debt and Chinese manufacturing grew at the fastest pace in five years. Treasury 10-year notes dropped for the first time in six days. The MSCI World Index advanced 1.7 percent at 11:01 a.m. in New York and the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index added 1 percent. The dollar weakened against 14 of the 16 most-traded currencies, Gold rose to a record and oil climbed more than 1 percent. The yen sank as much as 1.3 percent versus the U.S. currency, the most in seven weeks, on speculation the Bank of Japan will try to limit gains even after keeping interest rates unchanged at an emergency meeting today. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087 & sid=a_jbkdGQJAi8 & pos=1 Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 4:08:40 PMRe: The US dollar Thank you John, It requires much analysis of the transits and I don´t have time to do it now. Perhaps other list members are interested to try their hand at performing such analysis. Let us just keep in mind that: 1. the Sun and Moon and 2nd and 11th houses and their lords are most important for currency strength 2. a single national chart is only the other part of the outcome. To confidently predict we would analyse the other country. With regard to the euro-area and Japan there are only tentative (exploratory) charts. For the USD/GBP we have the UK chart. For India, we also have the chart there. So, perhaps the exchange rate between these countries would be the most interesting one to examine. 3. In the SAMVA USA chart, the transit placement of Moon is important. The Moon will be strong and unafflicted until it becomes conjunct Rahu on Monday, Nov. 30. It will then become opposite to Jupiter on late Tuesday Dec 1 or early Wednesday Dec 2 and opposite 8th lord Saturn on Thursday Dec 3. It will then enter Gemini and 12th house on late Thursday Dec. 3, so it would likely be weak on Friday Dec 4th and then strengthen on Monday Dec. 7, etc. 4. We would then need to analyse the Sun in a like manner for the USA. 5. We would also need to analyse other dynamics in the chart to round out the picture - both in terms of short run dynamics and a longer term trend. It is not an easy analysis as many influences are comingling in the final outcome. 6. Finally, we must remind ourselves that these are not mathematical laws. Karma is mysterious. Our minds may not comprehend the overall influences even when studying a chart with a true method. We must retain our humility that we are not perfect beings. However, an honest effort at analysis usually brings us to the point where we can predict in such a manner that we have the probability on our side. Most people, without astrology, have only 50-50 odds, due to unexpected factors. In the US dollar case, the karma was that a crisis in Dubai strengthened the dollar when all were extremely pessimistic for it. While we couldn´t foretell the event, the transits nevertheless suggested a strengthening. Hope this helps. Thor Dr. John D. Andre <drjdandreSAMVA Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 3:07:52 PM The US dollar Hello Thor:Good call on this: The lifting of 2) prompted me to predict an improvement in the value of the dollar. However, a closer analysis of the Sun and Moon in transit, showed that this could be delayed, as you also suggest for reasons not explained. The transits in the chart are quite mixed. The period influence is also hard to read, as the sub-period belongs to Saturn as 8th lord and it natally aspects the Sun. Will this bring obstacles or easy gains? That said, we can follow the market today, to see if the transit of Moon into Pisces, albeit into the aspect of natal 6th lord Jupiter, and transit of Sun conjunct natal Mars will manage to help the dollar, even if interest rates are so low (as Jupiter is weak) How long would you expect this bounce to last?Warmly, John======================================================================Cosmologer wrote: Hello list, Interesting isn´t it!? Gold Drops Most Since January After Dollar Index Extends Gains Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Gold dropped the most since January in London as gains in the dollar damped demand for the precious metal as an alternative asset. The U.S. Dollar Index, a six-currency gauge of the currency’s value, extended its rebound from a 15-month low after Dubai’s efforts to reschedule its debt rattled investors. Prices of other precious metals, crude oil and all six main industrial metals on the London Metal Exchange declined. Gold climbed to a record yesterday. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive & sid=afW7N2C1hAt8 That said, the dollar is still at a very low level. Thor__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4642 (20091127) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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