Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Hello dear friends, In the spirit of Christmas, I present a tentative and speculative birth chart for Jesus Christ. The date and approximate hour of birth are based on the work of John P. Pratt as presented in his article "Enoch Calendar Testifies of Christ" which was published in 2001 (http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2001/enoch_cal.html#1). The rectified chart has Sagittarius rising, with 1st lord Jupiter at 3° 51' Sagittarius, its own sign, where it becomes strong and in the Most Effective Point of the 9th house, from where it also aspects the 1st house of self, 3rd house of speech and action and 5th house of creativity. Sun as 9th lord, and thus dispositor of Jupiter, is exatled and well placed in the 5th house of creativity. The 8th lord of death and transcendence, the Moon, is at 0° 29' Gemini and the MEP of the 7th house, thus aspecting the house of self. This placement suggests his loss of life at the instigation of others. It would also be consistent with him not being married. Ketu as lord of spirituality and detachment is at 6° 40' Sagittarius. While Ketu is not afflicting the house it is conjunct Jupiter as 1st lord of self. This placement is consistent with his decision to sacrifice his life for a higher cause. The indicator of career, the 10th lord Mercury, is debilitated and weak but well placed in the 4th house of inner harmony. The placements of Jupiter and Mercury are consistent with Jesus being a teacher of spiritual verities. The legend of Christ as a miracle worker could be linked to the placement of the 8th lord, with also Jupiter and Sun, giving the spiritual belief and insight that transcends the visible reality. Finally, there are three planets in the 6th house of conflict, namely, Saturn as 3rd lord of speech and action, Mars as 5th lord of creativity and Venus as 11th lord of hopes, ideals and income. Indeed, Jesus message was not well received by the Jewish clergy of the time and resulted in powerful opposition and ultimately his loss of life. This is consistent with the story of Jesus' brief but magnanimous and influential life. Merry Christmas, Thor 1 of 1 Photo(s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Ah! Thank you so much again, Thor! Lila > > Hello dear Lila, > > I am so used to the birth details appearing in the JT chart output that I > inadvertently omitted to type it in full in the chart which I made by hand > in Powerpoint. The speculative birth details appear in the web page cited > in my message. With a PM birth being suggested, I rectified it as late > evening, giving 1° 36' Sagittarius rising: > > 9:40 PM, April 5, 1 B.C., Bethlehem, Israel, > > Glad you find it of interest. > > Thor > > > SAMVA , lila wrote: >> >> Thank you, Thor. In the spirit of Christmas, I asked this question >> almost >> exactly a year ago in a group, but to my knowledge never heard an >> answer: >> Is there a time/chart about 2000 years ago that could be attributed to >> Jesus Christ? >> >> As a practicing Christian, this addresses a long held question of mine. >> It >> combines my religion with my interest in astrology. And points out that >> saints can have strong afflictions, also; that having afflictions does >> not >> necessarily mean we are not good people, or that we have generally " bad >> karma " . >> >> Karma is unfathomable. Those who come in with and wealth and renown may >> be >> using the last of their good karma, while those with a tough time may be >> brurning up the very last of their " bad " karma. >> >> As this chart amply points out, who are we to judge? >> >> Thank you again. I have long wondered about Jesus Christ's jyotish. >> After >> all, if he was born, he must have had a chart. >> >> Having this chart means more to me than you can imagine. >> >> I do have a question -- are we assuming December 25th? I did not see a >> date on the chart, but may be missing something. As you may know, it is >> widely held that December 25th was picked later for many reasons, the >> winter solstice among them. >> >> Merry Christmas >> >> >> Lila >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello dear friends, >> > >> > In the spirit of Christmas, I present a tentative and speculative >> birth >> > chart for Jesus Christ. The date and approximate hour of birth are >> based >> > on the work of John P. Pratt as presented in his article " Enoch >> Calendar >> > Testifies of Christ " which was published in 2001 >> > (http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2001/enoch_cal.html#1). >> > >> > The rectified chart has Sagittarius rising, with 1st lord Jupiter at >> 3° >> > 51' Sagittarius, its own sign, where it becomes strong and in the Most >> > Effective Point of the 9th house, from where it also aspects the 1st >> house >> > of self, 3rd house of speech and action and 5th house of creativity. >> Sun >> > as 9th lord, and thus dispositor of Jupiter, is exatled and well >> placed in >> > the 5th house of creativity. The 8th lord of death and transcendence, >> the >> > Moon, is at 0° 29' Gemini and the MEP of the 7th house, thus aspecting >> the >> > house of self. This placement suggests his loss of life at the >> instigation >> > of others. It would also be consistent with him not being married. >> Ketu as >> > lord of spirituality and detachment is at 6° 40' Sagittarius. While >> > Ketu is not afflicting the house it is conjunct Jupiter as 1st lord of >> > self. This placement is consistent with his decision to sacrifice his >> life >> > for a higher cause. The indicator of career, the 10th lord Mercury, is >> > debilitated and weak but well placed in the 4th house of inner >> harmony. >> > The placements of Jupiter and Mercury are consistent with Jesus being >> a >> > teacher of spiritual verities. The legend of Christ as a miracle >> worker >> > could be linked to the placement of the 8th lord, with also Jupiter >> and >> > Sun, giving the spiritual belief and insight that transcends the >> visible >> > reality. Finally, there are three planets in the 6th house of >> conflict, >> > namely, Saturn as 3rd lord of speech and action, Mars as 5th lord of >> > creativity and Venus as 11th lord of hopes, ideals and income. >> > Indeed, Jesus message was not well received by the Jewish clergy of >> the >> > time and resulted in powerful opposition and ultimately his loss of >> > life. This is consistent with the story of Jesus' brief but >> magnanimous >> > and influential life. >> > >> > Merry Christmas, >> > >> > Thor >> > >> > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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