Tentative chart for Jesus Christ [1 Attachment]

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Thor. In the spirit of Christmas, I asked this question almost

exactly a year ago in a group, but to my knowledge never heard an answer:

Is there a time/chart about 2000 years ago that could be attributed to

Jesus Christ?

 

As a practicing Christian, this addresses a long held question of mine. It

combines my religion with my interest in astrology. And points out that

saints can have strong afflictions, also; that having afflictions does not

necessarily mean we are not good people, or that we have generally " bad

karma " .

 

Karma is unfathomable. Those who come in with and wealth and renown may be

using the last of their good karma, while those with a tough time may be

brurning up the very last of their " bad " karma.

 

As this chart amply points out, who are we to judge?

 

Thank you again. I have long wondered about Jesus Christ's jyotish. After

all, if he was born, he must have had a chart.

 

Having this chart means more to me than you can imagine.

 

I do have a question -- are we assuming December 25th? I did not see a

date on the chart, but may be missing something. As you may know, it is

widely held that December 25th was picked later for many reasons, the

winter solstice among them.

 

Merry Christmas

 

 

Lila

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear friends,

>

> In the spirit of Christmas, I present a tentative and speculative birth

> chart for Jesus Christ. The date and approximate hour of birth are based

> on the work of John P. Pratt as presented in his article " Enoch Calendar

> Testifies of Christ " which was published in 2001

> (http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2001/enoch_cal.html#1).

>

> The rectified chart has Sagittarius rising, with 1st lord Jupiter at 3°

> 51' Sagittarius, its own sign, where it becomes strong and in the Most

> Effective Point of the 9th house, from where it also aspects the 1st house

> of self, 3rd house of speech and action and 5th house of creativity. Sun

> as 9th lord, and thus dispositor of Jupiter, is exatled and well placed in

> the 5th house of creativity. The 8th lord of death and transcendence, the

> Moon, is at 0° 29' Gemini and the MEP of the 7th house, thus aspecting the

> house of self. This placement suggests his loss of life at the instigation

> of others. It would also be consistent with him not being married. Ketu as

> lord of spirituality and detachment is at 6° 40' Sagittarius. While

> Ketu is not afflicting the house it is conjunct Jupiter as 1st lord of

> self. This placement is consistent with his decision to sacrifice his life

> for a higher cause. The indicator of career, the 10th lord Mercury, is

> debilitated and weak but well placed in the 4th house of inner harmony.

> The placements of Jupiter and Mercury are consistent with Jesus being a

> teacher of spiritual verities. The legend of Christ as a miracle worker

> could be linked to the placement of the 8th lord, with also Jupiter and

> Sun, giving the spiritual belief and insight that transcends the visible

> reality. Finally, there are three planets in the 6th house of conflict,

> namely, Saturn as 3rd lord of speech and action, Mars as 5th lord of

> creativity and Venus as 11th lord of hopes, ideals and income.

> Indeed, Jesus message was not well received by the Jewish clergy of the

> time and resulted in powerful opposition and ultimately his loss of

> life. This is consistent with the story of Jesus' brief but magnanimous

> and influential life.

>

> Merry Christmas,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello dear Lila,

 

I am so used to the birth details appearing in the JT chart output that I

inadvertently omitted to type it in full in the chart which I made by hand in

Powerpoint. The speculative birth details appear in the web page cited in my

message. With a PM birth being suggested, I rectified it as late evening, giving

1° 36' Sagittarius rising:

 

9:40 PM, April 5, 1 B.C., Bethlehem, Israel,

 

Glad you find it of interest.

 

Thor

 

 

SAMVA , lila wrote:

>

> Thank you, Thor. In the spirit of Christmas, I asked this question almost

> exactly a year ago in a group, but to my knowledge never heard an answer:

> Is there a time/chart about 2000 years ago that could be attributed to

> Jesus Christ?

>

> As a practicing Christian, this addresses a long held question of mine. It

> combines my religion with my interest in astrology. And points out that

> saints can have strong afflictions, also; that having afflictions does not

> necessarily mean we are not good people, or that we have generally " bad

> karma " .

>

> Karma is unfathomable. Those who come in with and wealth and renown may be

> using the last of their good karma, while those with a tough time may be

> brurning up the very last of their " bad " karma.

>

> As this chart amply points out, who are we to judge?

>

> Thank you again. I have long wondered about Jesus Christ's jyotish. After

> all, if he was born, he must have had a chart.

>

> Having this chart means more to me than you can imagine.

>

> I do have a question -- are we assuming December 25th? I did not see a

> date on the chart, but may be missing something. As you may know, it is

> widely held that December 25th was picked later for many reasons, the

> winter solstice among them.

>

> Merry Christmas

>

>

> Lila

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello dear friends,

> >

> > In the spirit of Christmas, I present a tentative and speculative birth

> > chart for Jesus Christ. The date and approximate hour of birth are based

> > on the work of John P. Pratt as presented in his article " Enoch Calendar

> > Testifies of Christ " which was published in 2001

> > (http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2001/enoch_cal.html#1).

> >

> > The rectified chart has Sagittarius rising, with 1st lord Jupiter at 3°

> > 51' Sagittarius, its own sign, where it becomes strong and in the Most

> > Effective Point of the 9th house, from where it also aspects the 1st house

> > of self, 3rd house of speech and action and 5th house of creativity. Sun

> > as 9th lord, and thus dispositor of Jupiter, is exatled and well placed in

> > the 5th house of creativity. The 8th lord of death and transcendence, the

> > Moon, is at 0° 29' Gemini and the MEP of the 7th house, thus aspecting the

> > house of self. This placement suggests his loss of life at the instigation

> > of others. It would also be consistent with him not being married. Ketu as

> > lord of spirituality and detachment is at 6° 40' Sagittarius. While

> > Ketu is not afflicting the house it is conjunct Jupiter as 1st lord of

> > self. This placement is consistent with his decision to sacrifice his life

> > for a higher cause. The indicator of career, the 10th lord Mercury, is

> > debilitated and weak but well placed in the 4th house of inner harmony.

> > The placements of Jupiter and Mercury are consistent with Jesus being a

> > teacher of spiritual verities. The legend of Christ as a miracle worker

> > could be linked to the placement of the 8th lord, with also Jupiter and

> > Sun, giving the spiritual belief and insight that transcends the visible

> > reality. Finally, there are three planets in the 6th house of conflict,

> > namely, Saturn as 3rd lord of speech and action, Mars as 5th lord of

> > creativity and Venus as 11th lord of hopes, ideals and income.

> > Indeed, Jesus message was not well received by the Jewish clergy of the

> > time and resulted in powerful opposition and ultimately his loss of

> > life. This is consistent with the story of Jesus' brief but magnanimous

> > and influential life.

> >

> > Merry Christmas,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

> >

>