Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Hello dear Vinod, Thanks for the information. The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place. That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence somewhat. The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households, which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force. Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart. Thor Vinod Modi <modivinod62SAMVA Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PMRe: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010 Dear Thor,Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than 15 percent?i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market has been telling and seeing it.thanksvinod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Hello dear Vinod and list, I haven't found the information about the latest numbers in the housing market showing a 15 percent decline as mentioned by Vinod. Has anyone seen it? All I've found is the following: Five Key Housing Issues to Watch in 2010 January 1, 2010, 1:25 PM ET The housing market, which brought the economy to its knees in 2008, struggled to recover in 2009. The modest gains of the past year can be credited in many ways to federal support that will be removed at some point in 2010. That makes for an uncertain outlook for the year ahead... http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/01/01/five-key-housing-issues-to-watch-in-2010/ US house prices up for fifth month 15:56 GMT, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 US house prices rose in October for the fifth month in a row, according to a leading index. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8433858.stm US housing recovery is continuing 15:33 GMT, Monday, 2 November 2009 E-mail this to a friend Printable version US housing recovery is continuing A key US housing index has risen to its highest level in almost three years, helped by first time buyers taking advantage of a popular tax break. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 7:37:32 AM Housing and the economy Hello dear Vinod, Thanks for the information. The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place. That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence somewhat. The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households, which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force. Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart. Thor Vinod Modi <modivinod62SAMVA Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PMRe: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010 Dear Thor,Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than 15 percent?i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market has been telling and seeing it.thanksvinod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Here is some newly released information. Housing Market Monitor Pending Home Sales Plunge in November, Exactly as Predicted Share By Dean BakerJanuary 6, 2010Pending home sales in the Northeast and Midwest were down 25.7 percent.The National Association of Realtors reported that pending home sales fell 16.0 percent in November, hitting their lowest level since June. Remarkably, this decline appeared to surprise many analysts. It should have been entirely predictable. http://www.cepr.net/index.php/data-bytes/housing-market-monitor/pending-sales-plunge-as-predicted/ Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 8:20:12 AMRe: Housing and the economy Hello dear Vinod and list, I haven't found the information about the latest numbers in the housing market showing a 15 percent decline as mentioned by Vinod. Has anyone seen it? All I've found is the following: Five Key Housing Issues to Watch in 2010 January 1, 2010, 1:25 PM ET The housing market, which brought the economy to its knees in 2008, struggled to recover in 2009. The modest gains of the past year can be credited in many ways to federal support that will be removed at some point in 2010. That makes for an uncertain outlook for the year ahead... http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/01/01/five-key-housing-issues-to-watch-in-2010/ US house prices up for fifth month 15:56 GMT, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 US house prices rose in October for the fifth month in a row, according to a leading index. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8433858.stm US housing recovery is continuing 15:33 GMT, Monday, 2 November 2009 E-mail this to a friend Printable version US housing recovery is continuing A key US housing index has risen to its highest level in almost three years, helped by first time buyers taking advantage of a popular tax break. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 7:37:32 AM Housing and the economy Hello dear Vinod, Thanks for the information. The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place. That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence somewhat. The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households, which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force. Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart. Thor Vinod Modi <modivinod62SAMVA Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PMRe: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010 Dear Thor,Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than 15 percent?i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market has been telling and seeing it.thanksvinod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Hello list, It seems the news is not bringing much post-holiday cheer... Economy loses more jobs, unemployment at 10 pct. Employers cut more jobs in December than expected, as unemployment rate remains 10 percent Friday January 8, 2010, 8:33 am WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economy lost more jobs in December and the unemployment rate was unchanged, as a sluggish economic recovery has yet to revive hiring among the nation's employers. The Labor Department says employers cut 85,000 jobs last month, worse than the 8,000 drop analysts expected. A sharp drop in the labor force, a sign more of the jobless are giving up on their search for work, kept the unemployment rate at 10 percent, the same as in November. Once people stop looking for jobs, they are no longer counted among the unemployed. Revisions to the previous two months' data showed the economy actually generated 4,000 jobs in November, the first gain in nearly two years, while it lost 16,000 more than previously estimated in October http://finance./news/Economy-loses-more-jobs-apf-2245188994.html?x=0 As expected, the nodal station on natal 4th lord Venus in the 6th house is likely to give rise as predicted to concerns about the ability of households to manage their debts. One manifestation of that could be stubbornly high unemployment and faltering expectations for employment and income. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 10:17:13 AMRe: Housing and the economy Here is some newly released information. Housing Market Monitor Pending Home Sales Plunge in November, Exactly as Predicted Share By Dean BakerJanuary 6, 2010Pending home sales in the Northeast and Midwest were down 25.7 percent.The National Association of Realtors reported that pending home sales fell 16.0 percent in November, hitting their lowest level since June. Remarkably, this decline appeared to surprise many analysts. It should have been entirely predictable. http://www.cepr.net/index.php/data-bytes/housing-market-monitor/pending-sales-plunge-as-predicted/ Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 8:20:12 AMRe: Housing and the economy Hello dear Vinod and list, I haven't found the information about the latest numbers in the housing market showing a 15 percent decline as mentioned by Vinod. Has anyone seen it? All I've found is the following: Five Key Housing Issues to Watch in 2010 January 1, 2010, 1:25 PM ET The housing market, which brought the economy to its knees in 2008, struggled to recover in 2009. The modest gains of the past year can be credited in many ways to federal support that will be removed at some point in 2010. That makes for an uncertain outlook for the year ahead... http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/01/01/five-key-housing-issues-to-watch-in-2010/ US house prices up for fifth month 15:56 GMT, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 US house prices rose in October for the fifth month in a row, according to a leading index. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8433858.stm US housing recovery is continuing 15:33 GMT, Monday, 2 November 2009 E-mail this to a friend Printable version US housing recovery is continuing A key US housing index has risen to its highest level in almost three years, helped by first time buyers taking advantage of a popular tax break. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 7:37:32 AM Housing and the economy Hello dear Vinod, Thanks for the information. The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place. That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence somewhat. The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households, which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force. Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart. Thor Vinod Modi <modivinod62SAMVA Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PMRe: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010 Dear Thor,Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than 15 percent?i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market has been telling and seeing it.thanksvinod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Dear Thor,how true your article is !!!!but i do not know whether you had chance to hear any body on CNBC,even though it was so bad and more than 4.8 million people are out of work they say that there was positive growth in month of November 2009. i have yet to believe it, do not they get it they main street is hurting?why can they see reality or is the things really going to get better?vinodOn Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hello list, It seems the news is not bringing much post-holiday cheer... Economy loses more jobs, unemployment at 10 pct. Employers cut more jobs in December than expected, as unemployment rate remains 10 percent Friday January 8, 2010, 8:33 am WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economy lost more jobs in December and the unemployment rate was unchanged, as a sluggish economic recovery has yet to revive hiring among the nation's employers. The Labor Department says employers cut 85,000 jobs last month, worse than the 8,000 drop analysts expected. A sharp drop in the labor force, a sign more of the jobless are giving up on their search for work, kept the unemployment rate at 10 percent, the same as in November. Once people stop looking for jobs, they are no longer counted among the unemployed. Revisions to the previous two months' data showed the economy actually generated 4,000 jobs in November, the first gain in nearly two years, while it lost 16,000 more than previously estimated in October http://finance./news/Economy-loses-more-jobs-apf-2245188994.html?x=0 As expected, the nodal station on natal 4th lord Venus in the 6th house is likely to give rise as predicted to concerns about the ability of households to manage their debts. One manifestation of that could be stubbornly high unemployment and faltering expectations for employment and income. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Fri, January 8, 2010 10:17:13 AMRe: Housing and the economy Here is some newly released information. Housing Market Monitor Pending Home Sales Plunge in November, Exactly as Predicted Share By Dean BakerJanuary 6, 2010Pending home sales in the Northeast and Midwest were down 25.7 percent.The National Association of Realtors reported that pending home sales fell 16.0 percent in November, hitting their lowest level since June. Remarkably, this decline appeared to surprise many analysts. It should have been entirely predictable. http://www.cepr.net/index.php/data-bytes/housing-market-monitor/pending-sales-plunge-as-predicted/ Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Fri, January 8, 2010 8:20:12 AMRe: Housing and the economy Hello dear Vinod and list, I haven't found the information about the latest numbers in the housing market showing a 15 percent decline as mentioned by Vinod. Has anyone seen it? All I've found is the following: Five Key Housing Issues to Watch in 2010 January 1, 2010, 1:25 PM ET The housing market, which brought the economy to its knees in 2008, struggled to recover in 2009. The modest gains of the past year can be credited in many ways to federal support that will be removed at some point in 2010. That makes for an uncertain outlook for the year ahead... http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/01/01/five-key-housing-issues-to-watch-in-2010/ US house prices up for fifth month 15:56 GMT, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 US house prices rose in October for the fifth month in a row, according to a leading index. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8433858.stm US housing recovery is continuing 15:33 GMT, Monday, 2 November 2009 E-mail this to a friend Printable version US housing recovery is continuing A key US housing index has risen to its highest level in almost three years, helped by first time buyers taking advantage of a popular tax break. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Fri, January 8, 2010 7:37:32 AM Housing and the economy Hello dear Vinod, Thanks for the information. The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place. That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence somewhat. The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households, which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force. Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart. Thor Vinod Modi <modivinod62SAMVA Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PMRe: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010 Dear Thor,Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than 15 percent?i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market has been telling and seeing it. thanksvinod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Hello dear Vinod, The data is being revised upto one year after the event, so clarity on what has acutally transpired is hard to ascertain so soon afterwards. The media may put a spin, but they generally try to reflect the data. That said, the presentation of the data has obscured that output has fallen to a lower level in 2009 compared to 2008, while the change from 3rd quarter 2009 over 2 quarter 2009 was positive. The latter is being presented as the improvement. In any event, the data point to the bottom in the economy having been reached in summer/autumn 2009. Let me recall that predicted that the outlook for economy improving from August 2009. This prediction has really been shown to be correct. As for unemployment, we should also keep in mind that it is a lagging indicator. As such it may continue to worsen after the economy begins to turn the corner. Let us now look at the astrology of going forward. As for the trends of things in the economy, the Venus-Saturn period suggest two things 1. Venus major-period: an overarching problem with the housing market, until the end of this period in 2016. 2. Saturn sub-period a sluggish improvement in the economy. The transits then explain what significant economic and financial events to expect: A. early 2010: transit nodes conjunct natal Venus : 6th house type difficulties for the housing market and other indications of Venus and 4th house. B. early summer 2010: transit Saturn as 8th lord of obstacles and endings in 3rd house of transportation and communication afflicts natal 6th lord Jupiter in the 5th house of speculation : problems for financial stability, banks, stock market, etc. C. summer 2010: stationary nodes afflict natal nodes: sudden and serious problems for assets, including fixed assets. Thor SAMVA , Vinod Modi <modivinod62 wrote: > > Dear Thor, > how true your article is !!!! > but i do not know whether you had chance to hear any body on CNBC, > even though it was so bad and more than 4.8 million people are out of work > they say that there was positive growth in month of November 2009. > i have yet to believe it, do not they get it they main street is hurting? > why can they see reality or is the things really going to get better? > vinod > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > It seems the news is not bringing much post-holiday cheer... > > > > *Economy loses more jobs, unemployment at 10 pct.* > > Employers cut more jobs in December than expected, as unemployment rate > > remains 10 percent > > Friday January 8, 2010, 8:33 am > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economy lost more jobs in December and the > > unemployment rate was unchanged, as a *sluggish economic recovery* has yet > > to revive hiring among the nation's employers. The Labor Department says > > employers cut 85,000 jobs last month, *worse than* the 8,000 drop analysts > > *expected*. A sharp drop in the labor force, a sign more of the jobless > > are giving up on their search for work, kept the unemployment rate at 10 > > percent, the same as in November. Once people stop looking for jobs, they > > are no longer counted among the unemployed. Revisions to the previous two > > months' data showed the economy actually generated 4,000 jobs in November, > > the first gain in nearly two years, while it lost 16,000 more than > > previously estimated in October > > > > http://finance./news/Economy-loses-more-jobs-apf-2245188994.html?x=0 > > > > As expected, the nodal station on natal 4th lord Venus in the 6th house is > > likely to give rise as predicted to *concerns* about the *ability* of > > households to *manage their debts.* One manifestation of that could be > > stubbornly high unemployment and faltering expectations for employment > > and income. > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer > > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 10:17:13 AM > > > > *Subject:* Re: Housing and the economy > > > > > > > > Here is some newly released information. > > > > Housing Market Monitor > > Pending Home Sales Plunge in November, Exactly as Predicted [image: > > Print] > > [image: Share]* Share * <http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=20>* * > > > > By Dean Baker > > > > January 6, 2010 > > > > *Pending home sales in the Northeast and Midwest were down 25.7 percent.* > > > > The National Association of Realtors reported that pending home sales fell > > 16.0 percent in November, hitting their lowest level since June. Remarkably, > > this decline appeared to surprise many analysts. It should have been > > entirely predictable. > > > > http://www.cepr.net/index.php/data-bytes/housing-market-monitor/pending-sales-pl\ unge-as-predicted/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer > > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 8:20:12 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Housing and the economy > > > > > > > > Hello dear Vinod and list, > > > > I haven't found the information about the latest numbers in the housing > > market showing a 15 percent decline as mentioned by Vinod. Has anyone seen > > it? All I've found is the following: > > > > *Five Key Housing Issues to Watch in 2010* > > January 1, 2010, 1:25 PM ET > > The housing market, which brought the economy to its knees in 2008, > > struggled to recover in 2009. The modest gains of the past year can be > > credited in many ways to federal support that will be removed at some point > > in 2010. That makes for an uncertain outlook for the year ahead... > > * > > http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/01/01/five-key-housing-issues-to-watch-in\ -2010/ > > * > > ** > > *US house prices up for fifth month* > > 15:56 GMT, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 > > US house prices rose in October for the fifth month in a row, according to > > a leading index. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8433858.stm > > > > *US housing recovery is continuing * > > 15:33 GMT, Monday, 2 November 2009 > > E-mail this to a friend > > <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/email/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8\ 338578.stm> Printable > > version > > <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8\ 338578.stm?ad=1> > > US housing recovery is continuing > > A key US housing index has risen to its highest level in almost three > > years, helped by first time buyers taking advantage of a popular tax break. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm > > > > Thor > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer > > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 7:37:32 AM > > *Subject:* Housing and the economy > > > > > > > > Hello dear Vinod, > > > > Thanks for the information. > > > > The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests > > problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and > > communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under > > strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place. > > That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence > > somewhat. > > > > The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range > > of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is > > housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households, > > which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is > > the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force. > > Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is > > the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain > > morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a > > positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic > > growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart. > > > > Thor > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Vinod Modi <modivinod62 > > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010 > > > > > > > > Dear Thor, > > > > Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than > > 15 percent? > > i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems > > with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market > > has been telling and seeing it. > > thanks > > vinod > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Dear Thor,as i said i always with much respect read your articles over and over again to understand and take extreme pleasure in reading and trying to understand.i was reading about pluto and federal reserve also and would request your honorable earnest opinion about that in USA fed chart. Pluto represents issues that have an effect on a massive and profound level. With the Solar Eclipse conjoining the USA Pluto in the sector of the USA chart representing the economy and the banking system, a market collapse in China would have major implications in the US. Mercury, Saturn, and Pluto impacting the USA’s natal Venus and Jupiter in Cancer at the time of the Solar Eclipse reflects that financial valuationsvinodOn Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hello dear Vinod, The data is being revised upto one year after the event, so clarity on what has acutally transpired is hard to ascertain so soon afterwards. The media may put a spin, but they generally try to reflect the data. That said, the presentation of the data has obscured that output has fallen to a lower level in 2009 compared to 2008, while the change from 3rd quarter 2009 over 2 quarter 2009 was positive. The latter is being presented as the improvement. In any event, the data point to the bottom in the economy having been reached in summer/autumn 2009. Let me recall that predicted that the outlook for economy improving from August 2009. This prediction has really been shown to be correct. As for unemployment, we should also keep in mind that it is a lagging indicator. As such it may continue to worsen after the economy begins to turn the corner. Let us now look at the astrology of going forward. As for the trends of things in the economy, the Venus-Saturn period suggest two things 1. Venus major-period: an overarching problem with the housing market, until the end of this period in 2016. 2. Saturn sub-period a sluggish improvement in the economy. The transits then explain what significant economic and financial events to expect: A. early 2010: transit nodes conjunct natal Venus : 6th house type difficulties for the housing market and other indications of Venus and 4th house. B. early summer 2010: transit Saturn as 8th lord of obstacles and endings in 3rd house of transportation and communication afflicts natal 6th lord Jupiter in the 5th house of speculation : problems for financial stability, banks, stock market, etc. C. summer 2010: stationary nodes afflict natal nodes: sudden and serious problems for assets, including fixed assets. Thor SAMVA , Vinod Modi <modivinod62 wrote: > > Dear Thor, > how true your article is !!!! > but i do not know whether you had chance to hear any body on CNBC, > even though it was so bad and more than 4.8 million people are out of work > they say that there was positive growth in month of November 2009. > i have yet to believe it, do not they get it they main street is hurting? > why can they see reality or is the things really going to get better? > vinod > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > It seems the news is not bringing much post-holiday cheer... > > > > *Economy loses more jobs, unemployment at 10 pct.* > > Employers cut more jobs in December than expected, as unemployment rate > > remains 10 percent > > Friday January 8, 2010, 8:33 am > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economy lost more jobs in December and the > > unemployment rate was unchanged, as a *sluggish economic recovery* has yet > > to revive hiring among the nation's employers. The Labor Department says > > employers cut 85,000 jobs last month, *worse than* the 8,000 drop analysts > > *expected*. A sharp drop in the labor force, a sign more of the jobless > > are giving up on their search for work, kept the unemployment rate at 10 > > percent, the same as in November. Once people stop looking for jobs, they > > are no longer counted among the unemployed. Revisions to the previous two > > months' data showed the economy actually generated 4,000 jobs in November, > > the first gain in nearly two years, while it lost 16,000 more than > > previously estimated in October > > > > http://finance./news/Economy-loses-more-jobs-apf-2245188994.html?x=0 > > > > As expected, the nodal station on natal 4th lord Venus in the 6th house is > > likely to give rise as predicted to *concerns* about the *ability* of > > households to *manage their debts.* One manifestation of that could be > > stubbornly high unemployment and faltering expectations for employment > > and income. > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer > > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 10:17:13 AM > > > > *Subject:* Re: Housing and the economy > > > > > > > > Here is some newly released information. > > > > Housing Market Monitor > > Pending Home Sales Plunge in November, Exactly as Predicted [image: > > Print] > > [image: Share]* Share * <http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=20>* * > > > > By Dean Baker > > > > January 6, 2010 > > > > *Pending home sales in the Northeast and Midwest were down 25.7 percent.* > > > > The National Association of Realtors reported that pending home sales fell > > 16.0 percent in November, hitting their lowest level since June. Remarkably, > > this decline appeared to surprise many analysts. It should have been > > entirely predictable. > > > > http://www.cepr.net/index.php/data-bytes/housing-market-monitor/pending-sales-plunge-as-predicted/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer > > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 8:20:12 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Housing and the economy > > > > > > > > Hello dear Vinod and list, > > > > I haven't found the information about the latest numbers in the housing > > market showing a 15 percent decline as mentioned by Vinod. Has anyone seen > > it? All I've found is the following: > > > > *Five Key Housing Issues to Watch in 2010* > > January 1, 2010, 1:25 PM ET > > The housing market, which brought the economy to its knees in 2008, > > struggled to recover in 2009. The modest gains of the past year can be > > credited in many ways to federal support that will be removed at some point > > in 2010. That makes for an uncertain outlook for the year ahead... > > * > > http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/01/01/five-key-housing-issues-to-watch-in-2010/ > > * > > ** > > *US house prices up for fifth month* > > 15:56 GMT, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 > > US house prices rose in October for the fifth month in a row, according to > > a leading index. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8433858.stm > > > > *US housing recovery is continuing * > > 15:33 GMT, Monday, 2 November 2009 > > E-mail this to a friend > > <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/email/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm> Printable > > version > > <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm?ad=1> > > US housing recovery is continuing > > A key US housing index has risen to its highest level in almost three > > years, helped by first time buyers taking advantage of a popular tax break. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm > > > > Thor > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer > > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 7:37:32 AM > > *Subject:* Housing and the economy > > > > > > > > Hello dear Vinod, > > > > Thanks for the information. > > > > The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests > > problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and > > communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under > > strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place. > > That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence > > somewhat. > > > > The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range > > of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is > > housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households, > > which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is > > the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force. > > Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is > > the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain > > morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a > > positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic > > growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart. > > > > Thor > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Vinod Modi <modivinod62 > > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010 > > > > > > > > Dear Thor, > > > > Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than > > 15 percent? > > i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems > > with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market > > has been telling and seeing it. > > thanks > > vinod > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Hello dear Vinod, SAMVA list is dedicated to the study and discussion of SA astrology. For other types of astrology there are plenty of lists for that. As for the proposed chart for the Federal Reserve, I have not studied it. From long experience, let me just say that it is often so that the time one is looking at is not necessarily the basis of an authentic chart. It takes a lot of study and predictions to rectify a mundane chart. Thor Vinod Modi <modivinod62SAMVA Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 10:33:09 PMRe: Re: Housing and the economy Dear Thor,as i said i always with much respect read your articles over and over again to understand and take extreme pleasure in reading and trying to understand.i was reading about pluto and federal reserve also and would request your honorable earnest opinion about that in USA fed chart.Pluto represents issues that have an effect on a massive and profound level. With the Solar Eclipse conjoining the USA Pluto in the sector of the USA chart representing the economy and the banking system, a market collapse in China would have major implications in the US. Mercury, Saturn, and Pluto impacting the USA’s natal Venus and Jupiter in Cancer at the time of the Solar Eclipse reflects that financial valuationsvinod On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hello dear Vinod,The data is being revised upto one year after the event, so clarity on what has acutally transpired is hard to ascertain so soon afterwards. The media may put a spin, but they generally try to reflect the data. That said, the presentation of the data has obscured that output has fallen to a lower level in 2009 compared to 2008, while the change from 3rd quarter 2009 over 2 quarter 2009 was positive. The latter is being presented as the improvement. In any event, the data point to the bottom in the economy having been reached in summer/autumn 2009. Let me recall that predicted that the outlook for economy improving from August 2009. This prediction has really been shown to be correct. As for unemployment, we should also keep in mind that it is a lagging indicator. As such it may continue to worsen after the economy begins to turn the corner. Let us now look at the astrology of going forward.As for the trends of things in the economy, the Venus-Saturn period suggest two things1. Venus major-period: an overarching problem with the housing market, until the end of this period in 2016.2. Saturn sub-period a sluggish improvement in the economy.The transits then explain what significant economic and financial events to expect:A. early 2010: transit nodes conjunct natal Venus : 6th house type difficulties for the housing market and other indications of Venus and 4th house.B. early summer 2010: transit Saturn as 8th lord of obstacles and endings in 3rd house of transportation and communication afflicts natal 6th lord Jupiter in the 5th house of speculation : problems for financial stability, banks, stock market, etc.C. summer 2010: stationary nodes afflict natal nodes: sudden and serious problems for assets, including fixed assets.Thor SAMVA , Vinod Modi <modivinod62 wrote:>> Dear Thor,> how true your article is !!!!> but i do not know whether you had chance to hear any body on CNBC,> even though it was so bad and more than 4.8 million people are out of work> they say that there was positive growth in month of November 2009.> i have yet to believe it, do not they get it they main street is hurting?> why can they see reality or is the things really going to get better?> vinod> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:> > >> >> > Hello list,> >> > It seems the news is not bringing much post-holiday cheer...> >> > *Economy loses more jobs, unemployment at 10 pct.*> > Employers cut more jobs in December than expected, as unemployment rate> > remains 10 percent> > Friday January 8, 2010, 8:33 am> > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economy lost more jobs in December and the> > unemployment rate was unchanged, as a *sluggish economic recovery* has yet> > to revive hiring among the nation's employers. The Labor Department says> > employers cut 85,000 jobs last month, *worse than* the 8,000 drop analysts> > *expected*. A sharp drop in the labor force, a sign more of the jobless> > are giving up on their search for work, kept the unemployment rate at 10> > percent, the same as in November. Once people stop looking for jobs, they> > are no longer counted among the unemployed. Revisions to the previous two> > months' data showed the economy actually generated 4,000 jobs in November,> > the first gain in nearly two years, while it lost 16,000 more than> > previously estimated in October> >> > http://finance./news/Economy-loses-more-jobs-apf-2245188994.html?x=0> >> > As expected, the nodal station on natal 4th lord Venus in the 6th house is> > likely to give rise as predicted to *concerns* about the *ability* of> > households to *manage their debts.* One manifestation of that could be> > stubbornly high unemployment and faltering expectations for employment> > and income.> >> > Thor> >> >> >> > ------------------------------> > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer> > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 10:17:13 AM> >> > *Subject:* Re: Housing and the economy> >> >> >> > Here is some newly released information.> >> > Housing Market Monitor> > Pending Home Sales Plunge in November, Exactly as Predicted [image:> > Print]> > [image: Share]* Share * <http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=20>* * > >> > By Dean Baker> >> > January 6, 2010> >> > *Pending home sales in the Northeast and Midwest were down 25.7 percent.*> >> > The National Association of Realtors reported that pending home sales fell> > 16.0 percent in November, hitting their lowest level since June. Remarkably,> > this decline appeared to surprise many analysts. It should have been> > entirely predictable.> >> > http://www.cepr.net/index.php/data-bytes/housing-market-monitor/pending-sales-plunge-as-predicted/> >> > ------------------------------> > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer> > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 8:20:12 AM> > *Subject:* Re: Housing and the economy> >> >> >> > Hello dear Vinod and list,> >> > I haven't found the information about the latest numbers in the housing> > market showing a 15 percent decline as mentioned by Vinod. Has anyone seen> > it? All I've found is the following:> >> > *Five Key Housing Issues to Watch in 2010*> > January 1, 2010, 1:25 PM ET> > The housing market, which brought the economy to its knees in 2008,> > struggled to recover in 2009. The modest gains of the past year can be> > credited in many ways to federal support that will be removed at some point> > in 2010. That makes for an uncertain outlook for the year ahead...> > *> > http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/01/01/five-key-housing-issues-to-watch-in-2010/> > *> > **> > *US house prices up for fifth month*> > 15:56 GMT, Tuesday, 29 December 2009> > US house prices rose in October for the fifth month in a row, according to> > a leading index.> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8433858.stm> >> > *US housing recovery is continuing *> > 15:33 GMT, Monday, 2 November 2009> > E-mail this to a friend> > <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/email/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm> Printable> > version> > <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm?ad=1> > > US housing recovery is continuing> > A key US housing index has risen to its highest level in almost three> > years, helped by first time buyers taking advantage of a popular tax break.> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm> >> > Thor> >> > ------------------------------> > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer> > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 7:37:32 AM> > *Subject:* Housing and the economy> >> >> >> > Hello dear Vinod,> >> > Thanks for the information.> >> > The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests> > problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and> > communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under> > strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place.> > That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence> > somewhat.> >> > The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range> > of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is> > housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households,> > which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is> > the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force.> > Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is> > the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain> > morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a> > positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic> > growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart.> >> > Thor> >> > ------------------------------> > ** Vinod Modi <modivinod62> > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PM> > *Subject:* Re: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010> >> >> >> > Dear Thor,> >> > Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than> > 15 percent?> > i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems> > with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market> > has been telling and seeing it.> > thanks> > vinod> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Hello list, Data suggesting the US economy improved in the second half of 2009 continues to come in. Some economists are suggesting annualised GDP growth averaged 4% in the 4th quarter while the comparable number was just over 2% growth in the 3rd quarter. The latest data indicate holiday spending was greater than expected and that an ongoing modest rebound is taking place in manufacturing activity. While consumer expectations remain pessimistic, they are also seen to be improving. As for GDP growth in 2010, it is expected to be only modest, notably due to the ongoing slump in the housing sector. Importantly, financial markets improved significantly in 2009. Stock prices rose by around 70% from their trough in March and measures of credit risk have declined. That said, financing remains tight. While credit conditions are seen to be thawing after the deep freeze from late 2007, borrowers remain cautious and lenders picky. Importantly, even if the official data for the 4th quarter of 2009 comes in lower than mentioned above, the prediction by made in 2008 that the economic outlook would improve from August 2009 has clearly been vindicated. At the same time, he has warned of further difficulties in 2010 given the transits seen. This is also the conclusion of my research into the astrologicial dynamics of the SAMVA USA chart as mentioned in the article Predictions for the USA in 2010 (December 30, 2009) http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2009/12/predictions-for-usa-in-2010.html Thor cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 12:38:19 AM Re: Housing and the economyHello dear Vinod,The data is being revised upto one year after the event, so clarity on what has acutally transpired is hard to ascertain so soon afterwards. The media may put a spin, but they generally try to reflect the data. That said, the presentation of the data has obscured that output has fallen to a lower level in 2009 compared to 2008, while the change from 3rd quarter 2009 over 2 quarter 2009 was positive. The latter is being presented as the improvement. In any event, the data point to the bottom in the economy having been reached in summer/autumn 2009. Let me recall that predicted that the outlook for economy improving from August 2009. This prediction has really been shown to be correct. As for unemployment, we should also keep in mind that it is a lagging indicator. As such it may continue to worsen after the economy begins to turn the corner. Let us now look at the astrology of going forward.As for the trends of things in the economy, the Venus-Saturn period suggest two things1. Venus major-period: an overarching problem with the housing market, until the end of this period in 2016.2. Saturn sub-period a sluggish improvement in the economy.The transits then explain what significant economic and financial events to expect:A. early 2010: transit nodes conjunct natal Venus : 6th house type difficulties for the housing market and other indications of Venus and 4th house.B. early summer 2010: transit Saturn as 8th lord of obstacles and endings in 3rd house of transportation and communication afflicts natal 6th lord Jupiter in the 5th house of speculation : problems for financial stability, banks, stock market, etc.C. summer 2010: stationary nodes afflict natal nodes: sudden and serious problems for assets, including fixed assets.ThorSAMVA , Vinod Modi <modivinod62 wrote:>> Dear Thor,> how true your article is !!!!> but i do not know whether you had chance to hear any body on CNBC,> even though it was so bad and more than 4.8 million people are out of work> they say that there was positive growth in month of November 2009.> i have yet to believe it, do not they get it they main street is hurting?> why can they see reality or is the things really going to get better?> vinod> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:> > >> >> > Hello list,> >> > It seems the news is not bringing much post-holiday cheer...> >> > *Economy loses more jobs, unemployment at 10 pct.*> > Employers cut more jobs in December than expected, as unemployment rate> > remains 10 percent> > Friday January 8, 2010, 8:33 am> > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economy lost more jobs in December and the> > unemployment rate was unchanged, as a *sluggish economic recovery* has yet> > to revive hiring among the nation's employers. The Labor Department says> > employers cut 85,000 jobs last month, *worse than* the 8,000 drop analysts> > *expected*. A sharp drop in the labor force, a sign more of the jobless> > are giving up on their search for work, kept the unemployment rate at 10> > percent, the same as in November. Once people stop looking for jobs, they> > are no longer counted among the unemployed. Revisions to the previous two> > months' data showed the economy actually generated 4,000 jobs in November,> > the first gain in nearly two years, while it lost 16,000 more than> > previously estimated in October> >> > http://finance./news/Economy-loses-more-jobs-apf-2245188994.html?x=0> >> > As expected, the nodal station on natal 4th lord Venus in the 6th house is> > likely to give rise as predicted to *concerns* about the *ability* of> > households to *manage their debts.* One manifestation of that could be> > stubbornly high unemployment and faltering expectations for employment> > and income.> >> > Thor> >> >> >> > ------------------------------> > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer> > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 10:17:13 AM> >> > *Subject:* Re: Housing and the economy> >> >> >> > Here is some newly released information.> >> > Housing Market Monitor> > Pending Home Sales Plunge in November, Exactly as Predicted [image:> > Print]> > [image: Share]* Share * <http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=20>* *> >> > By Dean Baker> >> > January 6, 2010> >> > *Pending home sales in the Northeast and Midwest were down 25.7 percent.*> >> > The National Association of Realtors reported that pending home sales fell> > 16.0 percent in November, hitting their lowest level since June. Remarkably,> > this decline appeared to surprise many analysts. It should have been> > entirely predictable.> >> > http://www.cepr.net/index.php/data-bytes/housing-market-monitor/pending-sales-plunge-as-predicted/> >> > ------------------------------> > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer> > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 8:20:12 AM> > *Subject:* Re: Housing and the economy> >> >> >> > Hello dear Vinod and list,> >> > I haven't found the information about the latest numbers in the housing> > market showing a 15 percent decline as mentioned by Vinod. Has anyone seen> > it? All I've found is the following:> >> > *Five Key Housing Issues to Watch in 2010*> > January 1, 2010, 1:25 PM ET> > The housing market, which brought the economy to its knees in 2008,> > struggled to recover in 2009. The modest gains of the past year can be> > credited in many ways to federal support that will be removed at some point> > in 2010. That makes for an uncertain outlook for the year ahead...> > *> > http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/01/01/five-key-housing-issues-to-watch-in-2010/> > *> > **> > *US house prices up for fifth month*> > 15:56 GMT, Tuesday, 29 December 2009> > US house prices rose in October for the fifth month in a row, according to> > a leading index.> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8433858.stm> >> > *US housing recovery is continuing *> > 15:33 GMT, Monday, 2 November 2009> > E-mail this to a friend> > <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/email/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm> Printable> > version> > <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm?ad=1>> > US housing recovery is continuing> > A key US housing index has risen to its highest level in almost three> > years, helped by first time buyers taking advantage of a popular tax break.> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8338578.stm> >> > Thor> >> > ------------------------------> > ** Cosmologer <cosmologer> > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Fri, January 8, 2010 7:37:32 AM> > *Subject:* Housing and the economy> >> >> >> > Hello dear Vinod,> >> > Thanks for the information.> >> > The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests> > problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and> > communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under> > strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place.> > That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence> > somewhat.> >> > The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range> > of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is> > housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households,> > which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is> > the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force.> > Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is> > the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain> > morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a> > positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic> > growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart.> >> > Thor> >> > ------------------------------> > ** Vinod Modi <modivinod62> > *To:* SAMVA > > *Sent:* Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PM> > *Subject:* Re: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010> >> >> >> > Dear Thor,> >> > Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than> > 15 percent?> > i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems> > with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market> > has been telling and seeing it.> > thanks> > vinod> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dear Thor,i see you are busy doing work with biggest human calamity and unimaginable human loss feared.i just read about another unrelated article i believe in newyork times or wallstreet journal about Dollar and running away national debt , stating that if something is not done it is going to be a bigger disater for USA i do not know what to think of it? and that is why i wrote to youthank you vinodOn Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hello dear Vinod, Thanks for the information. The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place. That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence somewhat. The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households, which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force. Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart. Thor Vinod Modi <modivinod62SAMVA Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PMRe: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010 Dear Thor,Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than 15 percent?i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market has been telling and seeing it. thanksvinod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Hello dear Vinod, The Sun, Moon and 2nd and 11th lords rule currency strength. In the SAMVA USA chart, this means the Sun and Moon - more so the Sun as both general and functional indicator of currency strength. As the Sun and Moon are both strong in the chart, even if they and the 2nd house are aspected by functional malefics. In particular, the aspects of 8th lord Saturn and FM Rahu to the 2nd house suggest there can be periodic setbacks to the dollar. This means that the US dollar would be strong relative to the various factors that impinge on it like debt owed to foreigners, the interest rates paid by US households, firms and the government on such debt and the ability of the country to produce goods or services that foreigners are willing to pay for. This last item includes investment services, or US stocks and bonds. Moreover, in the past, the US dollar has shown strength relative to the US and foreign interest rate differential. In other words, the dollar has not been as weak as the differential theoretically suggests it should be or the experience of other countries indicates. As for the debt, this is ruled by Jupiter as 6th lord and possibly also with influences from Sun and 10th lord Mars. Jupiter also rules monetary policy and inflation. Jupiter is moderately strong in the 5th house and is well aspected by the Moon. However, the 6th house is adversely afflicted by Rahu. Moreover, Venus as 4th lord, ruling housing, is placed in the contentious 6th house. Its own house is afflicted by Ketu. This means that there is some scope for problems associated with debt, especially mortgage debt, in the country, which can have inflationary consequences. In 2010, Jupiter is weak and badly placed in transit until the month of May. This suggest its indications will not fare very well at this time. However, it is only in the summer of 2010 when its indications become massively afflicted. At that time, we can expect setbacks for its indications, in terms of e.g. debt or inflation problems. This may include a rise in market determined interest rates. If the Sun and Moon are also weak and afflicted, the dollar could also weaken at the same time. Thor Vinod Modi <modivinod62SAMVA Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 12:43:04 AMRe: Housing and the economy Dear Thor,i see you are busy doing work with biggest human calamity and unimaginable human loss feared.i just read about another unrelated article i believe in newyork times or wallstreet journal about Dollar and running away national debt , stating that if something is not done it is going to be a bigger disater for USAi do not know what to think of it? and that is why i wrote to youthank you vinod On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Hello dear Vinod, Thanks for the information. The nodal station conjunct natal Venus in the SAMVA USA chart suggests problems for its indications. As 4th lord, Venus rules e.g. housing and communal harmony. Until March 2010, the indications of Venus are under strain and given the natal weakness, setbacks in housing could take place. That said, the conjunction is of a 3° orb which lessens the influence somewhat. The stock market is a slightly different animal. It reflects a broad range of economic indications. An important indicator for the stock market is housing as it reflects the financial position and attitudes of households, which represent such a big part of demand in the economy. Related to that is the high rate of unemployment, around 10 percent of the labour force. Many housholds are not doing well at this time. Another related concern is the limited risk appetite of banks, which may have an influence to restrain morgage lending. Such factors are in line with housing not showing a positive outcome. On top of this there are expectations of sluggish economic growth, as a trend influence during the Saturn sub-period in the chart. Thor Vinod Modi <modivinod62SAMVA Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 11:25:18 PMRe: Major earthquake possible in summer of 2010Dear Thor,Housing numbers yesterday came out showed that they were off by more than 15 percent?i believe that is exactly you mentioned that in 2010 we should see problems with Housing and it will show that picture is not improving as stock market has been telling and seeing it.thanksvinod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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