REPLY: PART I A of the Conference Proceedings

[Guest guest]

Dear David,

 

Namasthe. Thanks for the kind

words. It is the Grace of God, coming to us, through our beloved Teacher

Professor , who has given us such marvellous knowledge.Pl pardon me

for that mistake, and kindly overlook the slight delay, that may be there in my

despatch of the other PARTS of the Proceedings. I am trying to do my very best.

Best Regards

Sankara

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of David Hawthorne

23 February 2010 05:59

SAMVA

RE: PART I A of the Conference Proceedings

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sankara..

 

Namaskar….

 

Thank you so very much for posting the

Conference Proceedings!

 

These are very helpful and inspiring.

 

I am sure many of us are there with you

in spirit!

 

Best wishes,

 

 

David Hawthorne

Fairfield, Iowa USA

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sankara

Bhagavadpada

Monday, February 22, 2010 5:41 AM

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PART I A of the Conference Proceedings

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Prof , and members of the SATVA, and SAMVA

Fraternities,

Namasthe. The two-day 5th

SA Intl Conference came to a peaceful close

yesterday at 5:00PM, in Gurgaon, at the South Patio Club, the Conf venue. I

have pleasure in making the Conference Proceedings available to you, especially

to those, who could not be

present at the Conference.

Pl see below, PART I-A of the Conference

Proceedings, which covers the Inaugural Address of Professor .

The other PARTS of the

Conference Proceedings will follow suit within

the next few days.

Best Regards

Sankara Bhagavadpada

Proceedings of the Fifth SA

Intl Conf[Feb 20th, 21st, 2010], at Gurgaon, India:

PART I-A:Fore-Noon Session

on the First Day:

Inaugural Address by Prof V

K Choudhry:

The conference commenced, with

Professor in the chair, and with Sri Rajesh Chaudhary, directing

the visual presentations, as well as the smooth running of the conference. With

his soft opening words of welcome to all the participating delegates, Professor

Choudhry, set the conference in motion. He reminded us that this was the fifth

Intl SA Conf in succession....{ It was a lovely time to be in Gurgaon[ chilly

in the mornings, and evenings, but sunny during the day], and especially in the

premises of the wonderful South Patio Club, the venue of the conference.}

There were however, three new

delegates at this conference, and the Professor forthwith

introduced them to the rest of the participants, by mentioning their names,

& briefly their vocations, as well: firstly, Sri Tyagi [Director:Finance,

of a Bank, who had recently learnt the Systems Approach from Prof

Choudhry]; secondly, Sri Suman Vasishth [ former Senior Executive with Air

India, and a UK-Trained Cricket Umpire, and one with a life-long hobby of

Vedic Astrology]; and thirdly, Smt Neha Gupta [a resident of Gurgaon,

with a Masters degree in Computer Applications, and who had recently taken the

bold step of turning her back on the field, for which she was so highly educated

thus far, and choosing instead, to study the Systems Approach to Vedic

Astrology, directly, from Prof Choudhry, himself]. It was also very significant

that Dr Jonathan Miller had travelled from long distances, to be at this

Conference, at the right time.

The Professor was very relaxed,

as he always is, and opened with the useful reminder that the conference was fundamentally a

learning opportunity for all participants, and that it also served the additional purpose of

refreshing our memories with regard to all the fundamental principles of the

Systems Approach. Going further in the same direction, he said the conference

afforded also a

solid learning experience to all those who choose to make a presentation at the

conf. In this context

of learning, he reiterated that even long-standing SA practitioners, learn all

the time, not to speak of beginners and those who have just commenced on the

path of learning the Systems Approach.

We will see how Professor Choudhry,

covers an extensive area of several SA Sutras, in the course of this inaugural

address. Moving over to the next significant point,

the Professor maintained that the science of astrology is invariably used by people who

are in distress, and that they turn to astrology only with a hope of preventing

further damages and difficulties in their lives. It was held by the Professor that the

essence of astrology, lay in the following aspects of that discipline of

learning:

 

(i)The ascertainment of both

the planetary

strengths as well as

the afflictions caused by

the planets;

(ii)The identification of

the functional nature of

planets;

(iii) Identification of

the problems caused by

natal weak and afflicted planets, including those that are badly placed.

Touching on the third

significant point, the Professor, drew attention to the fact that “sometimes there are strong planets, but results are

not seen”[sutra #1]. Next, he stressed the

importance of the Sutra[principle] that: “Whenever the Lord of the 4th, 2nd, 9th

or 3rd,[meaning the Most Benefic Planet]House is badly placed and afflicted, then other fruits in the life of the individual are

also reduced”[sutra #2].[quotes are either verbatim

reproductions of Professor’s words, or nearly verbatim]

In his commentary on various

aspects of the Systems Approach [sA], he next dwelt on what may be considered

to be the fourth significant point: “The

weakness of the Lord of the 8th H or 4th H, reduces the longevity of father, longevity of oneself, in addition to reducing the

inheritance [as the 8th H, is the H of inheritance], and also the

financial strength of the father, and the well-known longevity of marriage as

well.”[sutra #3]. {Here it is not inappropriate to

mention that these SA Sutras, enunciated by the Professor, in their present

forms, will prove to be invaluable in the understanding of the various case

studies that will be presented by others, in the course of the conference.

For this reason, we will do

well to note and remember these Sutras, well in advance of their actual

appearance.}

After that, he took up the

problem of the identification of the variable, representing the father, when

the 9th H and the 4th H, do not possess a MTS [Mula

Trikona Sign].This may be considered to be the fifth of the Professor’s

significant comments. He said: “For

identifying the father in any chart, under the conditions mentioned,

we should consider the placement of the Sun in the natal chart as well as in

the Div Chart, pertaining to parents, called the Dwadasamsa [D12]”.[sutra #4]

He mentioned in passing that Dr

Bhagavadpada was scheduled to give a presentation on the Div Charts, in which

he will go into the many Div Charts, by first presenting all the relevant SA

Sutras, which will be needed for that purpose. It was also emphasized by

, that: “In any study of Div Charts, afflictions within the

Div Charts must be examined, and in such cases; while one must examine only the

FMs [Functional Malefics] of the Div Chart, within the Div Chart itself, one

must not make the mistake of searching for the impact of the Rasi Chart’s

[RC’s] FMs, within the context of the Div Charts”.[sA Sutra #5]

Turning briefly, to the special subject of

Transits in the SA, the Professor, mentioned that

within a month’s time, the revised

edition of his earlier work on: “How to Identify Significant Events”, is

scheduled to be released and that this version will

contain an additional chapter on Transit Significant Events, which is expected

to be very useful to all those, who are practitioners of the SA and who have the task of giving a written Reading.

 

He said that in that work, he

has once again, reiterated the importance of the Sutra: “Malefic Lords of the eighth and ninth houses are

Ra like, in that, they also, like

Ra, create greed, over ambitiousness,

involvement in materialistic pursuits, involvement in lust, mishaps, loss of

patience, etc.”[sutra #6].

 

Another very important Sutra

was also mentioned: “Where there is no

MTS in the VIH, & Ke causes

an affliction in the Natal Chart; Ke

acts just like the Malefic VIH Lord, creating losses through disputes, thefts,

debts and litigations.”[sutra #7]. It was

reiterated by the Professor that, unless Ketu causes an affliction in the

Natal Chart, it will

not come to act like the Lord of the Malefic VIH.

Again, he stressed on a number

of kindred predictive Sutras in the special field of

Transits. The first of them is the following:

“When planets Transit the VIH, they create

vulnerability to conflicts, and vulnerability to health”[ Sutra #8].Citing an illustrative example, the Professor, mentioned,

how such predictive Sutras are useful, during consultations: “In a consultation involving an Aries Asdt

Person, during Sept, Oct, there are chances of health problems,

arguments, because, generally, during these months Su, Me, Ve travel through

the Sign Virgo[the VIH, for Aries Asdts]”[sutra #9].

Likewise, he also illustrated: “For the same Aries Asdt person, when the Su, Me and

Ve move into Scorpio [which underlies the VIIIH], that individual becomes

vulnerable to obstructions of all kinds”[sutra #10].

Continuing in the same vein,

and retaining the example of the Aries Asdt, the drew our attention to

another very simple Sutra, with good predictive power: “When planets get out of the VIIIH, problems get

over”[sutra #11].Focussing now on the Transit of

the Su, Me, and Ve in the XIIH[Pisces underlies this H], he pointed out the

value of the corresponding predictive

Sutra: “Likewise, when the Su, Me, Ve,

transit, the Sign Pisces[in the months of March, April], the Aries

individual, is likely to encounter more: expenses, losses, or some health

problems, or he may plan to visit distant places”[sutra #12].

Passing from the subject of the

Tr impact of fast

moving Planets, the

Professor had this to say, w.r.t. the Tr impact of slow moving Planets: “The above are the influences of fast moving

problems, in Tr. Slow

moving planets in Tr, give long drawn out difficulties-Sa, for example, vulnerability for 2.5 yrs, as this

is the time Tr Sa spends in each Sign. In such cases, one must be careful. If

Ra and Ke are in Malefic Hs, they linger there for as long as 1.5 Yrs; for Tr

Ju in Malefic Hs, it takes as long as 1 yr. Further, if during Tr, Ra and Ke

become stationary, on the MEP[Most Effective Point]of any H, they cause afflictions

to many Houses, with long-drawn

out difficulty, for as long as 4 to 5 months.” [sutra #13]

As a last Sutra belonging to

the special field of Transits in the SA, the Professor, mentioned the

following unusual Tr situation: “Sometimes,

exact conjunctions occur, as Transit Stationary influences , involving 2 or 3

Planets. When this happens, there are very painful and memorable

sufferings.”[sutra # 14]

 

For the benefit of SA

astrologers, who have to give a written Reading, the Professor said, he has added a whole new chapter of about 40 Pages to

his earlier book on: “How to identify Significant Events” and that this revised edition is now in the press. In

this chapter, the various significations of planets are systematically listed,

for each of the twelve Asdts, with many illustrative case studies.

 

Drawing due attention to the

whole question of the placement of Planets, , concluded

this list of Sutras, with the following one:

“Whenever a Planet goes the VIH, both

its general significations, as well as the significations of the House, for

which it is the Lord, will suffer.

Similarly when Planets are Transiting Benefic Hs, they give good results,

depending on their strengths in the Natal Chart.”[sutra # 15].

By bringing all these varied

Sutras in front of our eyes, in an unhurried manner, Prof Choudhry, was

equipping us with all the necessary SA insights, not only for fully

understanding the enfoldment of the Conference [through the many case studies,

to follow]; but also for refreshing our memories, and creating an atmosphere of

learning, in which there is a spirit of free enquiry, and consequent learning.

At the end he mentioned that Mr

Roop Saran will make a presentation on the significance of the Mula Trikona

Signs [MTS] on the following day, that, Dr Jonathan Miller will make also a

brief presentation of the Spirit behind the Remedial Measures, and that Dr.

Bhagavadpada will make a presentation in the afternoon on: “SA

Light on the Afflictions hidden in the Div Charts”. With these remarks,

closed this memorable and instructive inaugural address. The

highlights of the inaugural address are ‘the food for thought’, that the

numerous Sutras have provided us with.

 

Thereafter, the delegates introduced

themselves, one by one. It was an overall feeling of tremendous gratitude,

because every delegate told his/her story in brief of how Professor V K

Choudhry’s guidance and the Systems Approach, had done wonders for them in

their lives.

After the tea-break, the

delegates had the wonderful opportunity to hear talk

again, and this time, he spoke on: “The

Impact of the Functional Malefic Planets”.

And this time he covered many interesting case studies, and explained in each

case, what kind of havoc, the FMs caused in those Charts.

SUBSEQUENT PARTS OF THE CONF PROCEEDINGS WILL

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