Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Hello dear list members, Just checking in to comment on a significant event. A major earthquake has struck with an epicenter in Mexico, just south of the U.S. border. So far, two are reported dead and 100 reported injured in Mexico. I do not know of an authentic chart for Mexico, but we do have the SAMVA USA chart. The earthquake is reported to have caused damage as far north as Los Angeles but no deaths or injuries in the USA. This is consistent with the period and transit dynamics of the USA chart. Major earthquake Magnitude: 7.2 2010/04/04 Time: 15:40:41 Latitude: 32.128 N Longitude: 115.303 W Depth: 10.0 Location: 26 km (16 mi) SW of Guadalupe Victoria, Baja California, Mexico Quakes rattle Pacific Coast; 2 dead in Mexico 2:55 a.m.EDT, Mon April 5, 2010 A 7.2 magnitude earthquake struck northwest Mexico's Baja California on Sunday, leaving at least two dead and 100 injured in Mexico, authorities said...In California and Arizona, there were no immediate reports of injuries and only limited reports of damages. http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/04/04/mexico.earthquake/index.html?hpt=T1 Strong quake kills 2 in Mexico, rattles US states Associated Press – 36 mins ago TIJUANA, Mexico – A powerful earthquake swayed buildings from Los Angeles to Tijuana, killing two people in Mexico, blacking out cities, forcing the evacuation of hospitals and nursing homes, and prompting an Arizona border town to shut down its downtown area. The 7.2-magnitude quake centered just south of the U.S. border near Mexicali was one of the strongest earthquakes to hit region in decades. http://news./s/ap/20100405/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_baja_earthquake Magnitude-7.2 Mexicali Quake Shakes SoCal 10:08 PM PDT, Sun, Apr 4, 2010 More aftershocks -- some in the 5.0- to 6.0-magnitude range -- are expected to shake Southern California in the wake of Sunday's magnitude-7.2 earthquake near Mexicali. The quake was felt throughout Southern California. "It sounds like it's felt by at least 20 million people at this point," USGS seismologist Dr. Lucy Jones said. "Most of Southern California felt this earthquake." http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-beat/Baha-Claifornia-Earthquake-89880627.html Magnitude-7.2 quake strikes Baja California Associated Press – Sun Apr 4, 2010, 11:37 pm ET LOS ANGELES – Damage reports from the U.S.-Mexico border region are growing after a magnitude-7.2 earthquake in Baja California that was felt from Tijuana and Los Angeles to Las Vegas and Phoenix. The quake struck south of Mexicali, Mexico, at 3:40 p.m. Sunday, but damage also was being reported north of the border. Calexico Fire Chief Peter Mercado tells KABC-TV in Los Angeles that there is substantial damage in the older section of the southeastern California city. Mercado says there is structural damage and broken windows, leaking gas lines and damage to the water system. But he says no injuries have been reported. http://news./s/ap/us_baja_earthquake In the SAMVA USA chart the Venus-Saturn period is operating. The following transits explain the event: Transit Rahu at 22° 33' Sagittarius and 6th house conjunct 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius Transit Ketu at 22° 33' Gemini and 12th house in mutual aspect with transit 6th lord Jupiter at 24° 08' Aquarius and 8th house Transit 8th lord Saturn at 6° 12' Virgo and 3rd house in aspect to natal 6th lord Jupiter at 4° 25' Scorpio and 5th house Transit 1st lord Moon at 4° Sagittarius and 6th house. It is the dispositor of transit 10th lord Mars at 10° Cancer and 1st house. It is the dispositor of 3rd lord Mercury at 9° Aries and 10th house and 4th lord Venus at 11° Aries. Transit Mercury is in turn the dispositor of transit Saturn, the sub-period lord. The weakness of Moon in transit in the 6th house is the likely trigger of this event. The attached transit chart reveals an unusual and complex pattern of transit dispositors. 1. Jupiter is in the MT sign of Saturn 2. Saturn is in the MT sign of Mercury 3. Ketu is in the non-MT sign of Mercury 4. Mercury is in the sign of MT Mars 5. Mars is in the MT sign of Moon 6. Moon and Rahu are in the MT sign of Jupiter 7. Sun is in the non-MT sign of Jupiter (see 1.) Of course the natal key is the bad placement of 4th lord Venus in the 6th house and aspect of Ketu to 4th house. This natal potential is being triggered by the period and transit influences. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 2:37:35 PMRe: Increased earthquake activity in 2010 Hello list, Magnitude-4.4 earthquake shakes Southern Calif. Associated Press– March 16, 2010 - 9 mins ago LOS ANGELES – An earthquake east of downtown Los Angeles rippled across Southern California before dawn Tuesday, jolting millions of people awake and putting first-responders on alert. There are no reports of damage, injuries or power outages linked to the temblor. http://news./s/ap/20100316/ap_on_re_us/us_southern_california_quake USA* Magnitude 5.8 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA January 10, 2010* Magnitude 5.9 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA February 04, 2010* Magnitude 4.3 CHICAGO AREA, February 10, 2010 (2) The following has been predicted based on the SAMVA USA chart: Predictions for the USA in 2010, December 31, 2009"In early 2010, stress or even setbacks to its indications of fixed assets and communal harmony. Problems for natural resources or from earthquakes cannot be excluded.¨http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2009/12/predictions-for-usa-in-2010.html Moreover, a significant earthquake event in the summer of 2010 lookslikely in the USA. 1 of 1 Photo(s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Hello Gabriela, First, the earthquake took place in Mexico, for which no chart exists, as mentioned in the post. Two, this is a signficant event also in the USA, with property damages and fright to the population in the affected areas. Third, to predict with maximum accuracy requires a lot of detailed study of also fast moving bodies. It is hard to find time for such detailed study in advance. As a result, predictions are based on the major contacts of the slower moving bodies, with a focus on time frames for possible such events. Moreover, this is an ongoing research project, so the lessons are being learned as we monitor the predictions already made. Thor Gabriela <gabymittSAMVA Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 7:54:23 AMRE: Major earthquake in Mexico, near US border Hello, He question is HOW can we predict the next PLACEMENT of an earthquake. Everybody can see angles, and houses a f t e r it happens. We, astrologers should know before. So? Gabriella Mittelman גברי×לה מיטלמן Astro-numerologist ×סטרו-× ×•×ž×¨×•×œ×•×’×™×ª www.astroworld.co.il http://astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI English page http://astrologyandthemarkets.blogspot.com/ English blog http://blog.tapuz.co.il/astroblogia Hebrew Blog SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of CosmologerMonday, April 05, 2010 10:49 AMSAMVA Subject: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border [1 Attachment] Hello dear list members, Just checking in to comment on a significant event. A major earthquake has struck with an epicenter in Mexico , just south of the U.S. border. So far, two are reported dead and 100 reported injured in Mexico . I do not know of an authentic chart for Mexico , but we do have the SAMVA USA chart. The earthquake is reported to have caused damage as far north as Los Angeles but no deaths or injuries in the USA . This is consistent with the period and transit dynamics of the USA chart. Major earthquake Magnitude: 7.2 2010/04/04 Time: 15:40:41 Latitude: 32.128 N Longitude: 115.303 W Depth: 10.0 Location: 26 km ( 16 mi ) SW of Guadalupe Victoria, Baja California, Mexico Quakes rattle Pacific Coast; 2 dead in Mexico 2:55 a.m.EDT, Mon April 5, 2010 A 7.2 magnitude earthquake struck northwest Mexico's Baja California on Sunday, leaving at least two dead and 100 injured in Mexico, authorities said...In California and Arizona, there were no immediate reports of injuries and only limited reports of damages. http://www.cnn. com/2010/ WORLD/americas/ 04/04/mexico. earthquake/ index.html? hpt=T1 Strong quake kills 2 in Mexico, rattles US states Associated Press – 36 mins ago TIJUANA, Mexico – A powerful earthquake swayed buildings from Los Angeles to Tijuana, killing two people in Mexico, blacking out cities, forcing the evacuation of hospitals and nursing homes, and prompting an Arizona border town to shut down its downtown area. The 7.2-magnitude quake centered just south of the U.S. border near Mexicali was one of the strongest earthquakes to hit region in decades. http://news. / s/ap/20100405/ ap_on_re_ la_am_ca/ lt_baja_earthqua ke Magnitude-7. 2 Mexicali Quake Shakes SoCal 10:08 PM PDT, Sun, Apr 4, 2010 More aftershocks -- some in the 5.0- to 6.0-magnitude range -- are expected to shake Southern California in the wake of Sunday's magnitude-7. 2 earthquake near Mexicali. The quake was felt throughout Southern California. "It sounds like it's felt by at least 20 million people at this point," USGS seismologist Dr. Lucy Jones said. "Most of Southern California felt this earthquake." http://www.nbclosan geles.com/ news/local- beat/Baha- Claifornia- Earthquake- 89880627. html Magnitude-7. 2 quake strikes Baja California Associated Press – Sun Apr 4, 2010, 11:37 pm ET LOS ANGELES – Damage reports from the U.S.-Mexico border region are growing after a magnitude-7. 2 earthquake in Baja California that was felt from Tijuana and Los Angeles to Las Vegas and Phoenix. The quake struck south of Mexicali, Mexico, at 3:40 p.m. Sunday, but damage also was being reported north of the border. Calexico Fire Chief Peter Mercado tells KABC-TV in Los Angeles that there is substantial damage in the older section of the southeastern California city. Mercado says there is structural damage and broken windows, leaking gas lines and damage to the water system. But he says no injuries have been reported. http://news. / s/ap/us_baja_ earthquake In the SAMVA USA chart the Venus-Saturn period is operating. The following transits explain the event: Transit Rahu at 22° 33' Sagittarius and 6th house conjunct 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius Transit Ketu at 22° 33' Gemini and 12th house in mutual aspect with transit 6th lord Jupiter at 24° 08' Aquarius and 8th house Transit 8th lord Saturn at 6° 12' Virgo and 3rd house in aspect to natal 6th lord Jupiter at 4° 25' Scorpio and 5th house Transit 1st lord Moon at 4° Sagittarius and 6th house. It is the dispositor of transit 10th lord Mars at 10° Cancer and 1st house. It is the dispositor of 3rd lord Mercury at 9° Aries and 10th house and 4th lord Venus at 11° Aries. Transit Mercury is in turn the dispositor of transit Saturn, the sub-period lord. The weakness of Moon in transit in the 6th house is the likely trigger of this event. The attached transit chart reveals an unusual and complex pattern of transit dispositors. 1. Jupiter is in the MT sign of Saturn 2. Saturn is in the MT sign of Mercury 3. Ketu is in the non-MT sign of Mercury 4. Mercury is in the sign of MT Mars 5. Mars is in the MT sign of Moon 6. Moon and Rahu are in the MT sign of Jupiter 7. Sun is in the non-MT sign of Jupiter (see 1.) Of course the natal key is the bad placement of 4th lord Venus in the 6th house and aspect of Ketu to 4th house. This natal potential is being triggered by the period and transit influences. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Tue, March 16, 2010 2:37:35 PMRe: Increased earthquake activity in 2010 Hello list, Magnitude-4. 4 earthquake shakes Southern Calif. Associated Press– March 16, 2010 - 9 mins ago LOS ANGELES – An earthquake east of downtown Los Angeles rippled across Southern California before dawn Tuesday, jolting millions of people awake and putting first-responders on alert. There are no reports of damage, injuries or power outages linked to the temblor. http://news. / s/ap/20100316/ ap_on_re_ us/us_southern_ california_ quake USA* Magnitude 5.8 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA January 10, 2010* Magnitude 5.9 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA February 04, 2010* Magnitude 4.3 CHICAGO AREA, February 10, 2010 (2) The following has been predicted based on the SAMVA USA chart: Predictions for the USA in 2010, December 31, 2009"In early 2010, stress or even setbacks to its indications of fixed assets and communal harmony. Problems for natural resources or from earthquakes cannot be excluded.¨http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/2009/ 12/predictions- for-usa-in- 2010.html Moreover, a significant earthquake event in the summer of 2010 lookslikely in the USA . Hello Gabriella, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Hello Thor, The earthquake was in Mexicali, Mexico 32N40 115W29 So there u have a chart. I agree one has to combine the slower with the faster moving planets. Do you use Arabic parts? I always add the Point of Radical change, Point of death, The angles to the Nodes have major importance too Gabriella SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer Monday, April 05, 2010 11:25 AM SAMVA Re: Major earthquake in Mexico, near US border Hello Gabriela, First, the earthquake took place in Mexico, for which no chart exists, as mentioned in the post. Two, this is a signficant event also in the USA, with property damages and fright to the population in the affected areas. Third, to predict with maximum accuracy requires a lot of detailed study of also fast moving bodies. It is hard to find time for such detailed study in advance. As a result, predictions are based on the major contacts of the slower moving bodies, with a focus on time frames for possible such events. Moreover, this is an ongoing research project, so the lessons are being learned as we monitor the predictions already made. Thor Gabriela <gabymitt SAMVA Mon, April 5, 2010 7:54:23 AM RE: Major earthquake in Mexico, near US border Hello, He question is HOW can we predict the next PLACEMENT of an earthquake. Everybody can see angles, and houses a f t e r it happens. We, astrologers should know before. So? Gabriella Mittelman âáøéàìä îéèìîï Astro-numerologist àñèøå-ðåîøåìåâéú www.astroworld.co.il http://astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI English page http://astrologyandthemarkets.blogspot.com/ English blog http://blog.tapuz.co.il/astroblogia Hebrew Blog SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer Monday, April 05, 2010 10:49 AM SAMVA Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border [1 Attachment] Hello dear list members, Just checking in to comment on a significant event. A major earthquake has struck with an epicenter in Mexico , just south of the U.S. border. So far, two are reported dead and 100 reported injured in Mexico . I do not know of an authentic chart for Mexico , but we do have the SAMVA USA chart. The earthquake is reported to have caused damage as far north as Los Angeles but no deaths or injuries in the USA .. This is consistent with the period and transit dynamics of the USA chart. Major earthquake Magnitude: 7.2 2010/04/04 Time: 15:40:41 Latitude: 32.128 N Longitude: 115.303 W Depth: 10.0 Location: 26 km ( 16 mi ) SW of Guadalupe Victoria, Baja California, Mexico Quakes rattle Pacific Coast; 2 dead in Mexico 2:55 a.m.EDT, Mon April 5, 2010 A 7.2 magnitude earthquake struck northwest Mexico's Baja California on Sunday, leaving at least two dead and 100 injured in Mexico, authorities said...In California and Arizona, there were no immediate reports of injuries and only limited reports of damages. http://www.cnn. com/2010/ WORLD/americas/ 04/04/mexico. earthquake/ index.html? hpt=T1 Strong quake kills 2 in Mexico, rattles US states Associated Press – 36 mins ago TIJUANA, Mexico – A powerful earthquake swayed buildings from Los Angeles to Tijuana, killing two people in Mexico, blacking out cities, forcing the evacuation of hospitals and nursing homes, and prompting an Arizona border town to shut down its downtown area. The 7.2-magnitude quake centered just south of the U.S. border near Mexicali was one of the strongest earthquakes to hit region in decades. http://news. / s/ap/20100405/ ap_on_re_ la_am_ca/ lt_baja_earthqua ke Magnitude-7. 2 Mexicali Quake Shakes SoCal 10:08 PM PDT, Sun, Apr 4, 2010 More aftershocks -- some in the 5.0- to 6.0-magnitude range -- are expected to shake Southern California in the wake of Sunday's magnitude-7. 2 earthquake near Mexicali. The quake was felt throughout Southern California. " It sounds like it's felt by at least 20 million people at this point, " USGS seismologist Dr. Lucy Jones said. " Most of Southern California felt this earthquake. " http://www.nbclosan geles.com/ news/local- beat/Baha- Claifornia- Earthquake- 89880627. html Magnitude-7. 2 quake strikes Baja California Associated Press – Sun Apr 4, 2010, 11:37 pm ET LOS ANGELES – Damage reports from the U.S.-Mexico border region are growing after a magnitude-7. 2 earthquake in Baja California that was felt from Tijuana and Los Angeles to Las Vegas and Phoenix. The quake struck south of Mexicali, Mexico, at 3:40 p.m. Sunday, but damage also was being reported north of the border. Calexico Fire Chief Peter Mercado tells KABC-TV in Los Angeles that there is substantial damage in the older section of the southeastern California city. Mercado says there is structural damage and broken windows, leaking gas lines and damage to the water system. But he says no injuries have been reported. http://news. / s/ap/us_baja_ earthquake In the SAMVA USA chart the Venus-Saturn period is operating. The following transits explain the event: Transit Rahu at 22° 33' Sagittarius and 6th house conjunct 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius Transit Ketu at 22° 33' Gemini and 12th house in mutual aspect with transit 6th lord Jupiter at 24° 08' Aquarius and 8th house Transit 8th lord Saturn at 6° 12' Virgo and 3rd house in aspect to natal 6th lord Jupiter at 4° 25' Scorpio and 5th house Transit 1st lord Moon at 4° Sagittarius and 6th house. It is the dispositor of transit 10th lord Mars at 10° Cancer and 1st house. It is the dispositor of 3rd lord Mercury at 9° Aries and 10th house and 4th lord Venus at 11° Aries. Transit Mercury is in turn the dispositor of transit Saturn, the sub-period lord. The weakness of Moon in transit in the 6th house is the likely trigger of this event. The attached transit chart reveals an unusual and complex pattern of transit dispositors. 1. Jupiter is in the MT sign of Saturn 2. Saturn is in the MT sign of Mercury 3. Ketu is in the non-MT sign of Mercury 4. Mercury is in the sign of MT Mars 5. Mars is in the MT sign of Moon 6. Moon and Rahu are in the MT sign of Jupiter 7. Sun is in the non-MT sign of Jupiter (see 1.) Of course the natal key is the bad placement of 4th lord Venus in the 6th house and aspect of Ketu to 4th house. This natal potential is being triggered by the period and transit influences. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologer > SAMVA Tue, March 16, 2010 2:37:35 PM Re: Increased earthquake activity in 2010 Hello list, Magnitude-4. 4 earthquake shakes Southern Calif. Associated Press– March 16, 2010 - 9 mins ago LOS ANGELES – An earthquake east of downtown Los Angeles rippled across Southern California before dawn Tuesday, jolting millions of people awake and putting first-responders on alert. There are no reports of damage, injuries or power outages linked to the temblor. http://news. / s/ap/20100316/ ap_on_re_ us/us_southern_ california_ quake USA * Magnitude 5.8 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA January 10, 2010 * Magnitude 5.9 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA February 04, 2010 * Magnitude 4.3 CHICAGO AREA, February 10, 2010 (2) The following has been predicted based on the SAMVA USA chart: Predictions for the USA in 2010, December 31, 2009 " In early 2010, stress or even setbacks to its indications of fixed assets and communal harmony. Problems for natural resources or from earthquakes cannot be excluded.¨ http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/2009/ 12/predictions- for-usa-in- 2010.html Moreover, a significant earthquake event in the summer of 2010 looks likely in the USA .. Hello Gabriella, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Hello Gabriela, Rectifying an authentic chart takes intensive study over a long time of the history and signficant events. The proposed chart must then be tested with predictions. Only after repeat successful predictions can the confidence be developed. Hopefully, such efforts on SAMVA list will inspire list members to apply the lessons learned to the study of charts for countries, states or cities of interest to them. I was not aware of a chart for Mexicali, Mexico. Have you studied it? On SAMVA list the methodological focus is on the Systems' Approach. There are so many lists applying a vast range of approaches, either alone or in a mix of factors. Only a few seem to genuinely apply astrology in a scientific manner for predictive purposes. Indeed, as you suggest, most tend to use astrology to explain after the fact, which cannot be considered to be real astrology. Thor Gabriela <gabymittSAMVA Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 8:34:55 AMRE: Major earthquake in Mexico, near US border Hello Thor, The earthquake was in Mexicali , Mexico 32N40 115W29 So there u have a chart. I agree one has to combine the slower with the faster moving planets. Do you use Arabic parts? I always add the Point of Radical change, Point of death, The angles to the Nodes have major importance too Gabriella SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of CosmologerMonday, April 05, 2010 11:25 AMSAMVA Subject: Re: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border Hello Gabriela, First, the earthquake took place in Mexico , for which no chart exists, as mentioned in the post. Two, this is a signficant event also in the USA , with property damages and fright to the population in the affected areas. Third, to predict with maximum accuracy requires a lot of detailed study of also fast moving bodies. It is hard to find time for such detailed study in advance. As a result, predictions are based on the major contacts of the slower moving bodies, with a focus on time frames for possible such events. Moreover, this is an ongoing research project, so the lessons are being learned as we monitor the predictions already made. Thor Gabriela <gabymittSAMVA Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 7:54:23 AMRE: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border Hello, He question is HOW can we predict the next PLACEMENT of an earthquake. Everybody can see angles, and houses a f t e r it happens. We, astrologers should know before. So? Gabriella Mittelman גברי×לה מיטלמן Astro-numerologist ×סטרו-× ×•×ž×¨×•×œ×•×’×™×ª www.astroworld.co.il http://astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI English page http://astrologyandthemarkets.blogspot.com/ English blog http://blog.tapuz.co.il/astroblogia Hebrew Blog SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of CosmologerMonday, April 05, 2010 10:49 AMSAMVA Subject: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border [1 Attachment] Hello dear list members, Just checking in to comment on a significant event. A major earthquake has struck with an epicenter in Mexico , just south of the U.S. border. So far, two are reported dead and 100 reported injured in Mexico . I do not know of an authentic chart for Mexico , but we do have the SAMVA USA chart. The earthquake is reported to have caused damage as far north as Los Angeles but no deaths or injuries in the USA . This is consistent with the period and transit dynamics of the USA chart. Major earthquake Magnitude: 7.2 2010/04/04 Time: 15:40:41 Latitude: 32.128 N Longitude: 115.303 W Depth: 10.0 Location: 26 km ( 16 mi ) SW of Guadalupe Victoria, Baja California, Mexico Quakes rattle Pacific Coast; 2 dead in Mexico 2:55 a.m.EDT, Mon April 5, 2010 A 7.2 magnitude earthquake struck northwest Mexico's Baja California on Sunday, leaving at least two dead and 100 injured in Mexico, authorities said...In California and Arizona, there were no immediate reports of injuries and only limited reports of damages. http://www.cnn. com/2010/ WORLD/americas/ 04/04/mexico. earthquake/ index.html? hpt=T1 Strong quake kills 2 in Mexico, rattles US states Associated Press – 36 mins ago TIJUANA, Mexico – A powerful earthquake swayed buildings from Los Angeles to Tijuana, killing two people in Mexico, blacking out cities, forcing the evacuation of hospitals and nursing homes, and prompting an Arizona border town to shut down its downtown area. The 7.2-magnitude quake centered just south of the U.S. border near Mexicali was one of the strongest earthquakes to hit region in decades. http://news. / s/ap/20100405/ ap_on_re_ la_am_ca/ lt_baja_earthqua ke Magnitude-7. 2 Mexicali Quake Shakes SoCal 10:08 PM PDT, Sun, Apr 4, 2010 More aftershocks -- some in the 5.0- to 6.0-magnitude range -- are expected to shake Southern California in the wake of Sunday's magnitude-7. 2 earthquake near Mexicali. The quake was felt throughout Southern California. "It sounds like it's felt by at least 20 million people at this point," USGS seismologist Dr. Lucy Jones said. "Most of Southern California felt this earthquake." http://www.nbclosan geles.com/ news/local- beat/Baha- Claifornia- Earthquake- 89880627. html Magnitude-7. 2 quake strikes Baja California Associated Press – Sun Apr 4, 2010, 11:37 pm ET LOS ANGELES – Damage reports from the U.S.-Mexico border region are growing after a magnitude-7. 2 earthquake in Baja California that was felt from Tijuana and Los Angeles to Las Vegas and Phoenix. The quake struck south of Mexicali, Mexico, at 3:40 p.m. Sunday, but damage also was being reported north of the border. Calexico Fire Chief Peter Mercado tells KABC-TV in Los Angeles that there is substantial damage in the older section of the southeastern California city. Mercado says there is structural damage and broken windows, leaking gas lines and damage to the water system. But he says no injuries have been reported. http://news. / s/ap/us_baja_ earthquake In the SAMVA USA chart the Venus-Saturn period is operating. The following transits explain the event: Transit Rahu at 22° 33' Sagittarius and 6th house conjunct 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius Transit Ketu at 22° 33' Gemini and 12th house in mutual aspect with transit 6th lord Jupiter at 24° 08' Aquarius and 8th house Transit 8th lord Saturn at 6° 12' Virgo and 3rd house in aspect to natal 6th lord Jupiter at 4° 25' Scorpio and 5th house Transit 1st lord Moon at 4° Sagittarius and 6th house. It is the dispositor of transit 10th lord Mars at 10° Cancer and 1st house. It is the dispositor of 3rd lord Mercury at 9° Aries and 10th house and 4th lord Venus at 11° Aries. Transit Mercury is in turn the dispositor of transit Saturn, the sub-period lord. The weakness of Moon in transit in the 6th house is the likely trigger of this event. The attached transit chart reveals an unusual and complex pattern of transit dispositors. 1. Jupiter is in the MT sign of Saturn 2. Saturn is in the MT sign of Mercury 3. Ketu is in the non-MT sign of Mercury 4. Mercury is in the sign of MT Mars 5. Mars is in the MT sign of Moon 6. Moon and Rahu are in the MT sign of Jupiter 7. Sun is in the non-MT sign of Jupiter (see 1.) Of course the natal key is the bad placement of 4th lord Venus in the 6th house and aspect of Ketu to 4th house. This natal potential is being triggered by the period and transit influences. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Tue, March 16, 2010 2:37:35 PMRe: Increased earthquake activity in 2010 Hello list, Magnitude-4. 4 earthquake shakes Southern Calif. Associated Press– March 16, 2010 - 9 mins ago LOS ANGELES – An earthquake east of downtown Los Angeles rippled across Southern California before dawn Tuesday, jolting millions of people awake and putting first-responders on alert. There are no reports of damage, injuries or power outages linked to the temblor. http://news. / s/ap/20100316/ ap_on_re_ us/us_southern_ california_ quake USA* Magnitude 5.8 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA January 10, 2010* Magnitude 5.9 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA February 04, 2010* Magnitude 4.3 CHICAGO AREA, February 10, 2010 (2) The following has been predicted based on the SAMVA USA chart: Predictions for the USA in 2010, December 31, 2009"In early 2010, stress or even setbacks to its indications of fixed assets and communal harmony. Problems for natural resources or from earthquakes cannot be excluded.¨http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/2009/ 12/predictions- for-usa-in- 2010.html Moreover, a significant earthquake event in the summer of 2010 lookslikely in the USA . Hello Gabriella, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Drawing a SA chart for this event, and using 1 max. 2 deg. Orb for planets, we can see that Merc+Venus squared Mars, Venus trined Pluto, Jupiter septiled ( 72 deg) Pluto, Venus the S.node Uranus the N.node. Uranus squared the galactic center, which is at 27 Sag. As far as I see till now, Neptune, Uranus and the nodes play an important role in quakes. Gabriella Mittelman âáøéàìä îéèìîï Astro-numerologist àñèøå-ðåîøåìåâéú www.astroworld.co.il http://astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI English page http://astrologyandthemarkets.blogspot.com/ English blog http://blog.tapuz.co.il/astroblogia Hebrew Blog SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer Monday, April 05, 2010 12:00 PM SAMVA Re: Major earthquake in Mexico, near US border Hello Gabriela, Rectifying an authentic chart takes intensive study over a long time of the history and signficant events. The proposed chart must then be tested with predictions. Only after repeat successful predictions can the confidence be developed. Hopefully, such efforts on SAMVA list will inspire list members to apply the lessons learned to the study of charts for countries, states or cities of interest to them. I was not aware of a chart for Mexicali, Mexico. Have you studied it? On SAMVA list the methodological focus is on the Systems' Approach. There are so many lists applying a vast range of approaches, either alone or in a mix of factors. Only a few seem to genuinely apply astrology in a scientific manner for predictive purposes. Indeed, as you suggest, most tend to use astrology to explain after the fact, which cannot be considered to be real astrology. Thor Gabriela <gabymitt SAMVA Mon, April 5, 2010 8:34:55 AM RE: Major earthquake in Mexico, near US border Hello Thor, The earthquake was in Mexicali , Mexico 32N40 115W29 So there u have a chart. I agree one has to combine the slower with the faster moving planets. Do you use Arabic parts? I always add the Point of Radical change, Point of death, The angles to the Nodes have major importance too Gabriella SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer Monday, April 05, 2010 11:25 AM SAMVA Re: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border Hello Gabriela, First, the earthquake took place in Mexico , for which no chart exists, as mentioned in the post. Two, this is a signficant event also in the USA , with property damages and fright to the population in the affected areas. Third, to predict with maximum accuracy requires a lot of detailed study of also fast moving bodies. It is hard to find time for such detailed study in advance. As a result, predictions are based on the major contacts of the slower moving bodies, with a focus on time frames for possible such events. Moreover, this is an ongoing research project, so the lessons are being learned as we monitor the predictions already made. Thor Gabriela <gabymitt SAMVA Mon, April 5, 2010 7:54:23 AM RE: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border Hello, He question is HOW can we predict the next PLACEMENT of an earthquake. Everybody can see angles, and houses a f t e r it happens. We, astrologers should know before. So? Gabriella Mittelman âáøéàìä îéèìîï Astro-numerologist àñèøå-ðåîøåìåâéú www.astroworld.co.il http://astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI English page http://astrologyandthemarkets.blogspot.com/ English blog http://blog.tapuz.co.il/astroblogia Hebrew Blog SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Cosmologer Monday, April 05, 2010 10:49 AM SAMVA Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border [1 Attachment] Hello dear list members, Just checking in to comment on a significant event. A major earthquake has struck with an epicenter in Mexico , just south of the U.S. border. So far, two are reported dead and 100 reported injured in Mexico . I do not know of an authentic chart for Mexico , but we do have the SAMVA USA chart. The earthquake is reported to have caused damage as far north as Los Angeles but no deaths or injuries in the USA .. This is consistent with the period and transit dynamics of the USA chart. Major earthquake Magnitude: 7.2 2010/04/04 Time: 15:40:41 Latitude: 32.128 N Longitude: 115.303 W Depth: 10.0 Location: 26 km ( 16 mi ) SW of Guadalupe Victoria, Baja California, Mexico Quakes rattle Pacific Coast; 2 dead in Mexico 2:55 a.m.EDT, Mon April 5, 2010 A 7.2 magnitude earthquake struck northwest Mexico's Baja California on Sunday, leaving at least two dead and 100 injured in Mexico, authorities said...In California and Arizona, there were no immediate reports of injuries and only limited reports of damages. http://www.cnn. com/2010/ WORLD/americas/ 04/04/mexico. earthquake/ index.html? hpt=T1 Strong quake kills 2 in Mexico, rattles US states Associated Press – 36 mins ago TIJUANA, Mexico – A powerful earthquake swayed buildings from Los Angeles to Tijuana, killing two people in Mexico, blacking out cities, forcing the evacuation of hospitals and nursing homes, and prompting an Arizona border town to shut down its downtown area. The 7.2-magnitude quake centered just south of the U.S. border near Mexicali was one of the strongest earthquakes to hit region in decades. http://news. / s/ap/20100405/ ap_on_re_ la_am_ca/ lt_baja_earthqua ke Magnitude-7. 2 Mexicali Quake Shakes SoCal 10:08 PM PDT, Sun, Apr 4, 2010 More aftershocks -- some in the 5.0- to 6.0-magnitude range -- are expected to shake Southern California in the wake of Sunday's magnitude-7. 2 earthquake near Mexicali. The quake was felt throughout Southern California. " It sounds like it's felt by at least 20 million people at this point, " USGS seismologist Dr. Lucy Jones said. " Most of Southern California felt this earthquake. " http://www.nbclosan geles.com/ news/local- beat/Baha- Claifornia- Earthquake- 89880627. html Magnitude-7. 2 quake strikes Baja California Associated Press – Sun Apr 4, 2010, 11:37 pm ET LOS ANGELES – Damage reports from the U.S.-Mexico border region are growing after a magnitude-7. 2 earthquake in Baja California that was felt from Tijuana and Los Angeles to Las Vegas and Phoenix. The quake struck south of Mexicali, Mexico, at 3:40 p.m. Sunday, but damage also was being reported north of the border. Calexico Fire Chief Peter Mercado tells KABC-TV in Los Angeles that there is substantial damage in the older section of the southeastern California city. Mercado says there is structural damage and broken windows, leaking gas lines and damage to the water system. But he says no injuries have been reported. http://news. / s/ap/us_baja_ earthquake In the SAMVA USA chart the Venus-Saturn period is operating. The following transits explain the event: Transit Rahu at 22° 33' Sagittarius and 6th house conjunct 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius Transit Ketu at 22° 33' Gemini and 12th house in mutual aspect with transit 6th lord Jupiter at 24° 08' Aquarius and 8th house Transit 8th lord Saturn at 6° 12' Virgo and 3rd house in aspect to natal 6th lord Jupiter at 4° 25' Scorpio and 5th house Transit 1st lord Moon at 4° Sagittarius and 6th house. It is the dispositor of transit 10th lord Mars at 10° Cancer and 1st house. It is the dispositor of 3rd lord Mercury at 9° Aries and 10th house and 4th lord Venus at 11° Aries. Transit Mercury is in turn the dispositor of transit Saturn, the sub-period lord. The weakness of Moon in transit in the 6th house is the likely trigger of this event. The attached transit chart reveals an unusual and complex pattern of transit dispositors. 1. Jupiter is in the MT sign of Saturn 2. Saturn is in the MT sign of Mercury 3. Ketu is in the non-MT sign of Mercury 4. Mercury is in the sign of MT Mars 5. Mars is in the MT sign of Moon 6. Moon and Rahu are in the MT sign of Jupiter 7. Sun is in the non-MT sign of Jupiter (see 1.) Of course the natal key is the bad placement of 4th lord Venus in the 6th house and aspect of Ketu to 4th house. This natal potential is being triggered by the period and transit influences. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologer > SAMVA Tue, March 16, 2010 2:37:35 PM Re: Increased earthquake activity in 2010 Hello list, Magnitude-4. 4 earthquake shakes Southern Calif. Associated Press– March 16, 2010 - 9 mins ago LOS ANGELES – An earthquake east of downtown Los Angeles rippled across Southern California before dawn Tuesday, jolting millions of people awake and putting first-responders on alert. There are no reports of damage, injuries or power outages linked to the temblor. http://news. / s/ap/20100316/ ap_on_re_ us/us_southern_ california_ quake USA * Magnitude 5.8 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA January 10, 2010 * Magnitude 5.9 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA February 04, 2010 * Magnitude 4.3 CHICAGO AREA, February 10, 2010 (2) The following has been predicted based on the SAMVA USA chart: Predictions for the USA in 2010, December 31, 2009 " In early 2010, stress or even setbacks to its indications of fixed assets and communal harmony. Problems for natural resources or from earthquakes cannot be excluded.¨ http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/2009/ 12/predictions- for-usa-in- 2010.html Moreover, a significant earthquake event in the summer of 2010 looks likely in the USA .. Hello Gabriella, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Hello list members, SAMVA list is dedicated to the study of Systems' Approach (SA). In SA, the invisble outer planets do not configure, the aspects used are different, etc. The methods used are selected by based on their observed efficacy, including testing through prediction. For more information about SA, list members are referred to the web site and books of : http://www.yournetastrologer.com/learn_astrology_course.htm Thor Gabriela <gabymittSAMVA Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 9:16:49 AMRE: Major earthquake in Mexico, near US border Drawing a SA chart for this event, and using 1 max. 2 deg. Orb for planets, we can see that Merc+Venus squared Mars, Venus trined Pluto, Jupiter septiled ( 72 deg) Pluto, Venus the S.node Uranus the N.node. Uranus squared the galactic center, which is at 27 Sag. As far as I see till now, Neptune , Uranus and the nodes play an important role in quakes. Gabriella Mittelman גברי×לה מיטלמן Astro-numerologist ×סטרו-× ×•×ž×¨×•×œ×•×’×™×ª www.astroworld.co.il http://astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI English page http://astrologyandthemarkets.blogspot.com/ English blog http://blog.tapuz.co.il/astroblogia Hebrew Blog SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of CosmologerMonday, April 05, 2010 12:00 PMSAMVA Subject: Re: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border Hello Gabriela, Rectifying an authentic chart takes intensive study over a long time of the history and signficant events. The proposed chart must then be tested with predictions. Only after repeat successful predictions can the confidence be developed. Hopefully, such efforts on SAMVA list will inspire list members to apply the lessons learned to the study of charts for countries, states or cities of interest to them. I was not aware of a chart for Mexicali , Mexico . Have you studied it? On SAMVA list the methodological focus is on the Systems' Approach. There are so many lists applying a vast range of approaches, either alone or in a mix of factors. Only a few seem to genuinely apply astrology in a scientific manner for predictive purposes. Indeed, as you suggest, most tend to use astrology to explain after the fact, which cannot be considered to be real astrology. Thor Gabriela <gabymittSAMVA Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 8:34:55 AMRE: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border Hello Thor, The earthquake was in Mexicali , Mexico 32N40 115W29 So there u have a chart. I agree one has to combine the slower with the faster moving planets. Do you use Arabic parts? I always add the Point of Radical change, Point of death, The angles to the Nodes have major importance too Gabriella SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of CosmologerMonday, April 05, 2010 11:25 AMSAMVA Subject: Re: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border Hello Gabriela, First, the earthquake took place in Mexico , for which no chart exists, as mentioned in the post. Two, this is a signficant event also in the USA , with property damages and fright to the population in the affected areas. Third, to predict with maximum accuracy requires a lot of detailed study of also fast moving bodies. It is hard to find time for such detailed study in advance. As a result, predictions are based on the major contacts of the slower moving bodies, with a focus on time frames for possible such events. Moreover, this is an ongoing research project, so the lessons are being learned as we monitor the predictions already made. Thor Gabriela <gabymittSAMVA Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 7:54:23 AMRE: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border Hello, He question is HOW can we predict the next PLACEMENT of an earthquake. Everybody can see angles, and houses a f t e r it happens. We, astrologers should know before. So? Gabriella Mittelman גברי×לה מיטלמן Astro-numerologist ×סטרו-× ×•×ž×¨×•×œ×•×’×™×ª www.astroworld.co.il http://astroworld.co.il/default.asp?iId=KDHLI English page http://astrologyandthemarkets.blogspot.com/ English blog http://blog.tapuz.co.il/astroblogia Hebrew Blog SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of CosmologerMonday, April 05, 2010 10:49 AMSAMVA Subject: Major earthquake in Mexico , near US border [1 Attachment] Hello dear list members, Just checking in to comment on a significant event. A major earthquake has struck with an epicenter in Mexico , just south of the U.S. border. So far, two are reported dead and 100 reported injured in Mexico . I do not know of an authentic chart for Mexico , but we do have the SAMVA USA chart. The earthquake is reported to have caused damage as far north as Los Angeles but no deaths or injuries in the USA . This is consistent with the period and transit dynamics of the USA chart. Major earthquake Magnitude: 7.2 2010/04/04 Time: 15:40:41 Latitude: 32.128 N Longitude: 115.303 W Depth: 10.0 Location: 26 km ( 16 mi ) SW of Guadalupe Victoria, Baja California, Mexico Quakes rattle Pacific Coast; 2 dead in Mexico 2:55 a.m.EDT, Mon April 5, 2010 A 7.2 magnitude earthquake struck northwest Mexico's Baja California on Sunday, leaving at least two dead and 100 injured in Mexico, authorities said...In California and Arizona, there were no immediate reports of injuries and only limited reports of damages. http://www.cnn. com/2010/ WORLD/americas/ 04/04/mexico. earthquake/ index.html? hpt=T1 Strong quake kills 2 in Mexico, rattles US states Associated Press – 36 mins ago TIJUANA, Mexico – A powerful earthquake swayed buildings from Los Angeles to Tijuana, killing two people in Mexico, blacking out cities, forcing the evacuation of hospitals and nursing homes, and prompting an Arizona border town to shut down its downtown area. The 7.2-magnitude quake centered just south of the U.S. border near Mexicali was one of the strongest earthquakes to hit region in decades. http://news. / s/ap/20100405/ ap_on_re_ la_am_ca/ lt_baja_earthqua ke Magnitude-7. 2 Mexicali Quake Shakes SoCal 10:08 PM PDT, Sun, Apr 4, 2010 More aftershocks -- some in the 5.0- to 6.0-magnitude range -- are expected to shake Southern California in the wake of Sunday's magnitude-7. 2 earthquake near Mexicali. The quake was felt throughout Southern California. "It sounds like it's felt by at least 20 million people at this point," USGS seismologist Dr. Lucy Jones said. "Most of Southern California felt this earthquake." http://www.nbclosan geles.com/ news/local- beat/Baha- Claifornia- Earthquake- 89880627. html Magnitude-7. 2 quake strikes Baja California Associated Press – Sun Apr 4, 2010, 11:37 pm ET LOS ANGELES – Damage reports from the U.S.-Mexico border region are growing after a magnitude-7. 2 earthquake in Baja California that was felt from Tijuana and Los Angeles to Las Vegas and Phoenix. The quake struck south of Mexicali, Mexico, at 3:40 p.m. Sunday, but damage also was being reported north of the border. Calexico Fire Chief Peter Mercado tells KABC-TV in Los Angeles that there is substantial damage in the older section of the southeastern California city. Mercado says there is structural damage and broken windows, leaking gas lines and damage to the water system. But he says no injuries have been reported. http://news. / s/ap/us_baja_ earthquake In the SAMVA USA chart the Venus-Saturn period is operating. The following transits explain the event: Transit Rahu at 22° 33' Sagittarius and 6th house conjunct 4th lord Venus at 23° 51' Sagittarius Transit Ketu at 22° 33' Gemini and 12th house in mutual aspect with transit 6th lord Jupiter at 24° 08' Aquarius and 8th house Transit 8th lord Saturn at 6° 12' Virgo and 3rd house in aspect to natal 6th lord Jupiter at 4° 25' Scorpio and 5th house Transit 1st lord Moon at 4° Sagittarius and 6th house. It is the dispositor of transit 10th lord Mars at 10° Cancer and 1st house. It is the dispositor of 3rd lord Mercury at 9° Aries and 10th house and 4th lord Venus at 11° Aries. Transit Mercury is in turn the dispositor of transit Saturn, the sub-period lord. The weakness of Moon in transit in the 6th house is the likely trigger of this event. The attached transit chart reveals an unusual and complex pattern of transit dispositors. 1. Jupiter is in the MT sign of Saturn 2. Saturn is in the MT sign of Mercury 3. Ketu is in the non-MT sign of Mercury 4. Mercury is in the sign of MT Mars 5. Mars is in the MT sign of Moon 6. Moon and Rahu are in the MT sign of Jupiter 7. Sun is in the non-MT sign of Jupiter (see 1.) Of course the natal key is the bad placement of 4th lord Venus in the 6th house and aspect of Ketu to 4th house. This natal potential is being triggered by the period and transit influences. Thor Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Tue, March 16, 2010 2:37:35 PMRe: Increased earthquake activity in 2010 Hello list, Magnitude-4. 4 earthquake shakes Southern Calif. Associated Press– March 16, 2010 - 9 mins ago LOS ANGELES – An earthquake east of downtown Los Angeles rippled across Southern California before dawn Tuesday, jolting millions of people awake and putting first-responders on alert. There are no reports of damage, injuries or power outages linked to the temblor. http://news. / s/ap/20100316/ ap_on_re_ us/us_southern_ california_ quake USA* Magnitude 5.8 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA January 10, 2010* Magnitude 5.9 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA February 04, 2010* Magnitude 4.3 CHICAGO AREA, February 10, 2010 (2) The following has been predicted based on the SAMVA USA chart: Predictions for the USA in 2010, December 31, 2009"In early 2010, stress or even setbacks to its indications of fixed assets and communal harmony. Problems for natural resources or from earthquakes cannot be excluded.¨http://cosmologer. blogspot. com/2009/ 12/predictions- for-usa-in- 2010.html Moreover, a significant earthquake event in the summer of 2010 lookslikely in the USA . Hello Gabriella, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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