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For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members

Born: 18 June 1949 at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.

In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in the sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Poor guy.

 

I spoke with one of my Polish vendors and this is a big big deal in Poland

because they lost everyone in charge of one side of the government.

Apparently Poland has two sides to their government. They explained to me

that it is something like how we have Republicans and Democrats. Everyone

on board was from one side of the government. She said it is like if we

woke up and all Democrat or the Republican side of the government were all

dead.

 

So now they have to replace one entire side, or faction, of their

government. No one knows how they are going to do this and the Polish are

very fearful that their currency will devalue because the head of their

monetary system was killed in the plane accident also.

 

Lila

 

 

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> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth

> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members

> Born: 18 June 1949 at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.

>

> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in the

> sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the

> sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most

> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to tenth,

> second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct

> with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.

>

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Isn't Poland Part of European Union? Just a question.Thanks."lila" <lilaSAMVA Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 11:20:39 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Poor guy.

 

I spoke with one of my Polish vendors and this is a big big deal in Poland

because they lost everyone in charge of one side of the government.

Apparently Poland has two sides to their government. They explained to me

that it is something like how we have Republicans and Democrats. Everyone

on board was from one side of the government. She said it is like if we

woke up and all Democrat or the Republican side of the government were all

dead.

 

So now they have to replace one entire side, or faction, of their

government. No one knows how they are going to do this and the Polish are

very fearful that their currency will devalue because the head of their

monetary system was killed in the plane accident also.

 

Lila

 

>

> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth

> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members

> Born: 18 June 1949 at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.

>

> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in the

> sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the

> sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most

> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to tenth,

> second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct

> with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.

>

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Peter P <peterannarborSAMVA Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 11:48:41 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Isn't Poland Part of European Union? Just a question.Thanks."lila (AT) lisco (DOT) com" <lilaSAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:20:39 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Poor guy.

 

I spoke with one of my Polish vendors and this is a big big deal in Poland

because they lost everyone in charge of one side of the government.

Apparently Poland has two sides to their government. They explained to me

that it is something like how we have Republicans and Democrats. Everyone

on board was from one side of the government. She said it is like if we

woke up and all Democrat or the Republican side of the government were all

dead.

 

So now they have to replace one entire side, or faction, of their

government. No one knows how they are going to do this and the Polish are

very fearful that their currency will devalue because the head of their

monetary system was killed in the plane accident also.

 

Lila

 

>

> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth

> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members

> Born: 18 June 1949 at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.

>

> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in the

> sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the

> sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most

> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to tenth,

> second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct

> with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.

>

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Yes, they are part of the EU, but from what I read they still use the

Zloty for currency, like the Danes still use the Krone.

 

FYI - Famous Poles include the astronomer Copernicus, the composer Chopin,

the scientist Maria Curie-Sklodowska, film-makers Roman Polanski and

Krzysztof Kieslowski, and the late Pope, John-Paul II.

 

Lila

 

 

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> " lila " <lila

> SAMVA

> Sun, April 11, 2010 11:20:39 PM

> Re: Death of Polish president

>

>

> Poor guy.

>

> I spoke with one of my Polish vendors and this is a big big deal in Poland

> because they lost everyone in charge of one side of the government.

> Apparently Poland has two sides to their government. They explained to me

> that it is something like how we have Republicans and Democrats. Everyone

> on board was from one side of the government. She said it is like if we

> woke up and all Democrat or the Republican side of the government were all

> dead.

>

> So now they have to replace one entire side, or faction, of their

> government. No one knows how they are going to do this and the Polish are

> very fearful that their currency will devalue because the head of their

> monetary system was killed in the plane accident also.

>

> Lila

>

>>

>> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth

>> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members

>> Born: 18 June 1949 at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.

>>

>> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in

>> the

>> sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the

>> sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most

>> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to

>> tenth,

>> second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct

>> with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> .

>>

>>

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Many thanks, Professor.

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On 4/12/2010 4:05 AM, wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hello Mr. John,

 

As there was no affliction by Venus, the possibility of a foul play is

remote.

 

 

 

-

 

 

Dr. John D. Andre

To:

SAMVA

Sent:

Monday, April 12, 2010 1:17 PM

Subject:

Death of Polish president

 

 

Dear :

 

Is there anything in his chart or the transits to it that suggest to

possibility of foul play?

 

The timing of this event was simply too convenient, IMO.

 

Warmly, John

=========================================

 

On 4/11/2010 10:59 PM, wrote:

>

> Dear list members,

>

> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following

birth

> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members

> Born: 18 June 1949 at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.

> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was

in

> the sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the

lord of

> the sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the

most

> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to

 

> tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was

closely

> conjunct with the natal Venus.  All these give indications of

accident

> and death.

>

 

 

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Hello list,

 

Greece receives bail out package with positive influnence on euro. This suggests some easing of conditions facing the country and the EU, with influence on the common currency, the euro.

 

Euro Rises to 3-Week High as Greece Gets $61 Billion EU Package

April 12 (Bloomberg) -- The euro strengthened to the highest level in more than three weeks versus the dollar after Greece got an international rescue package worth as much as 45 billion euros ($61 billion) to help it avoid a default. The common currency’s gain was its third in as many days, and helped send the Dollar Index down to the lowest level since March 18. South Korea’s won climbed to its strongest in more than 18 months as the central bank raised its economic forecast. The Australian dollar snapped two days of gains as a government report showed the nation’s housing market may weaken. “The big, fat bail-out plan for Greece should spark a further wave of risk-taking across the board to the detriment of the dollar today,†strategists at UniCredit SpA team headed by Michael Rottman in Munich wrote in an investor

note. “The euro should easily outperform the other foreign-exchange majors.â€

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087 & sid=acdzAHPsXMNs & pos=2

 

We can look at the influence of the Saturn-Jupiter opposition this summer on public debt and currency values for insight into possible rising signs for the entities involved. The influence should be clearly negative for countries with Cancer rising as then Saturn and Jupiter become functional malefics and more so where the opposition ties in with natal placements or period influences. In the case of countries with Virgo and Pisces, Saturn becomes an FM and for Taurus and Capricorn Jupiter becomes an FM. Also in these countries, some problems are expected relating to the indications of either Saturn or Jupiter.

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarborSAMVA Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 4:05:48 AMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarborSAMVA Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 11:48:41 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Isn't Poland Part of European Union? Just a question.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

"lila (AT) lisco (DOT) com" <lilaSAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:20:39 PMRe: Death of Polish president

Poor guy.I spoke with one of my Polish vendors and this is a big big deal in Polandbecause they lost everyone in charge of one side of the government.Apparently Poland has two sides to their government. They explained to methat it is something like how we have Republicans and Democrats. Everyoneon board was from one side of the government. She said it is like if wewoke up and all Democrat or the Republican side of the government were alldead.So now they have to replace one entire side, or faction, of theirgovernment. No one knows how they are going to do this and the Polish arevery fearful that their currency will devalue because the head of theirmonetary system was killed in the plane accident also.Lila>> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members> Born: 18 June 1949

at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.>> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in the> sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the> sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to tenth,> second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct> with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.>> >>> .>>

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Andre, this plane very old. 26 years. They do not have a very good gov't

flock of planes in Poland and my Polish friends knew about these old

planes and expressed anger that this group of people was flying on one of

them.

 

I agree is was ironic timing but truth can sometimes be stranger than

fiction.

 

Lila

 

 

 

 

> Many thanks, Professor.

> =========================

>

> On 4/12/2010 4:05 AM, wrote:  

>   Hello Mr. John,

>  

> As there was no affliction by Venus, the possibility of a foul play is

> remote.  

> - Dr. John D. Andre

> SAMVA Monday, April 12, 2010

> 1:17 PM Death of Polish president

> Dear :

>

> Is there anything in his chart or the transits to it that suggest to

> possibility of foul play?

>

> The timing of this event was simply too convenient, IMO.

>

> Warmly, John

> =========================================

>

> On 4/11/2010 10:59 PM, wrote:

> >

> > Dear list members,

> >

> > For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth

> > details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members

> > Born: 18 June 1949 at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.

> > In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in

> > the sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of

> > the sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most

> > effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to

> > tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely

> > conjunct with the natal Venus.  All these give indications of accident

> > and death.

> >

>

>

> ---

>

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Anyway....all I have told dovetails with Dr. Professor's opinion that it

was NOT foul play.

 

Lila

 

 

 

 

Andre, this plane very old. 26 years. They do not have a very good gov't

> flock of planes in Poland and my Polish friends knew about these old

> planes and expressed anger that this group of people was flying on one of

> them.

>

> I agree is was ironic timing but truth can sometimes be stranger than

> fiction.

>

> Lila

>

>

>

>

>> Many thanks, Professor.

>> =========================

>>

>> On 4/12/2010 4:05 AM, wrote:  

>>   Hello Mr. John,

>>  

>> As there was no affliction by Venus, the possibility of a foul play is

>> remote.  

>> - Dr. John D. Andre

>> SAMVA Monday, April 12, 2010

>> 1:17 PM Death of Polish president

>> Dear :

>>

>> Is there anything in his chart or the transits to it that suggest to

>> possibility of foul play?

>>

>> The timing of this event was simply too convenient, IMO.

>>

>> Warmly, John

>> =========================================

>>

>> On 4/11/2010 10:59 PM, wrote:

>> >

>> > Dear list members,

>> >

>> > For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following

>> birth

>> > details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members

>> > Born: 18 June 1949 at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.

>> > In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in

>> > the sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord

>> of

>> > the sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most

>> > effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to

>> > tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely

>> > conjunct with the natal Venus.  All these give indications of

>> accident

>> > and death.

>> >

>>

>>

>> ---

>>

>>

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Thanks a lot, Lila................. :-)

 

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On 4/12/2010 10:43 AM, lila wrote:

>

> Andre, this plane very old. 26 years. They do not have a very good gov't

> flock of planes in Poland and my Polish friends knew about these old

> planes and expressed anger that this group of people was flying on one of

> them.

>

> I agree is was ironic timing but truth can sometimes be stranger than

> fiction.

>

> Lila

>

> > Many thanks, Professor.

> > =========================

> >

> > On 4/12/2010 4:05 AM, wrote:

> > Hello Mr. John,

> >

> > As there was no affliction by Venus, the possibility of a foul play is

> > remote.

> > - Dr. John D. Andre

> > SAMVA <SAMVA%40> Sent:

> Monday, April 12, 2010

> > 1:17 PM Death of Polish president

> > Dear :

> >

> > Is there anything in his chart or the transits to it that suggest to

> > possibility of foul play?

> >

> > The timing of this event was simply too convenient, IMO.

> >

> > Warmly, John

> > =========================================

> >

> > On 4/11/2010 10:59 PM, wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear list members,

> > >

> > > For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth

> > > details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members

> > > Born: 18 June 1949 at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.

> > > In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in

> > > the sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of

> > > the sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most

> > > effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to

> > > tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely

> > > conjunct with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident

> > > and death.

> > >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

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Dear Mr. Thor,

 

With respect to your comments :-

 

" We can look at the .........The influence should be clearly negative for countries with Cancer rising as then Saturn and Jupiter become functional malefics and more so where the opposition ties in with natal placements or period influences."

 

Does this mean that Since USA has Cancer rising, this opposition of Saturn and Jupiter will bring USA in Focus around the globe due to its Highest Ever Debt, which in turn will weaken the USD (just as Euro fell as Greece Debt Problems arised in Eurozone).

 

In the case of countries with Virgo and Pisces, Saturn becomes an FM

and for Taurus and Capricorn Jupiter becomes an FM.

 

inferring from the above please comment that since India has Taurus as rising Sign, Jupiter becomes FM; What events are likely to happen in India during Summer with Jupiter becoming FM ??

 

Thanks,

Best Regards,

Arun Birla.

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 5:13:48 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Hello list,

 

Greece receives bail out package with positive influnence on euro. This suggests some easing of conditions facing the country and the EU, with influence on the common currency, the euro.

 

Euro Rises to 3-Week High as Greece Gets $61 Billion EU Package

April 12 (Bloomberg) -- The euro strengthened to the highest level in more than three weeks versus the dollar after Greece got an international rescue package worth as much as 45 billion euros ($61 billion) to help it avoid a default. The common currency’s gain was its third in as many days, and helped send the Dollar Index down to the lowest level since March 18. South Korea’s won climbed to its strongest in more than 18 months as the central bank raised its economic forecast. The Australian dollar snapped two days of gains as a government report showed the nation’s housing market may weaken. “The big, fat bail-out plan for Greece should spark a further wave of risk-taking across the board to the detriment of the dollar today,†strategists at UniCredit SpA team headed by Michael Rottman in Munich wrote in an investor note. “The euro should

easily outperform the other foreign-exchange majors.â€

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087 & sid=acdzAHPsXMNs & pos=2

 

We can look at the influence of the Saturn-Jupiter opposition this summer on public debt and currency values for insight into possible rising signs for the entities involved. The influence should be clearly negative for countries with Cancer rising as then Saturn and Jupiter become functional malefics and more so where the opposition ties in with natal placements or period influences. In the case of countries with Virgo and Pisces, Saturn becomes an FM and for Taurus and Capricorn Jupiter becomes an FM. Also in these countries, some problems are expected relating to the indications of either Saturn or Jupiter.

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarbor@ >SAMVA Mon, April 12, 2010 4:05:48 AMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarbor@ >SAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:48:41 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Isn't Poland Part of European Union? Just a question.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

"lila (AT) lisco (DOT) com" <lilaSAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:20:39 PMRe: Death of Polish president

Poor guy.I spoke with one of my Polish vendors and this is a big big deal in Polandbecause they lost everyone in charge of one side of the government.Apparently Poland has two sides to their government. They explained to methat it is something like how we have Republicans and Democrats. Everyoneon board was from one side of the government. She said it is like if wewoke up and all Democrat or the Republican side of the government were alldead.So now they have to replace one entire side, or faction, of theirgovernment. No one knows how they are going to do this and the Polish arevery fearful that their currency will devalue because the head of theirmonetary system was killed in the plane accident also.Lila>> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members> Born: 18 June 1949

at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.>> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in the> sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the> sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to tenth,> second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct> with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.>> >>> .>>

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Hello dear Arun,

 

Please consult

 

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2010/01/coming-jupiter-saturn-opposition.html

 

It has also been mentioned in the SAMVA list discussion recently (feel free to examine the archives) that the indications of Jupiter as 6th lord could be affected by the opposition aspect. For the USA, the banking system, debts, monetary policy, opposition, organised religion and the judiciary (possible supreme court nomination battle), are some indications that may become affected there.

 

As regards India, please feel free to examine the transit aspect with respect to the natal placements, including the MEPs in the chart. One concern would be transit 8th lord Jupiter in early Pisces and 11th house moving into mutual aspect of natal Ketu in the 7th house in mid May 2010, while also afflicting the 3rd lord Moon, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 11th houses. This suggests likelihood of sudden violent events, possibly natural disasters. Transportation, communication and business initiatives could be affected. Transit Jupiter then becomes stationary around 8° Pisces, in the 11th house MEP in July-August 2010. All this time, Jupiter and sub-period lord natal 12th lord Mars (from July 2010) in the 2nd house MEP, will be afflicting transit 10th lord Saturn in Virgo and the 5th house, which suggests some setback for e.g. foreign trade, the government

administration, working people, etc.

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

Arun <abirla2001SAMVA Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 8:26:01 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Dear Mr. Thor,

 

With respect to your comments :-

 

" We can look at the .........The influence should be clearly negative for countries with Cancer rising as then Saturn and Jupiter become functional malefics and more so where the opposition ties in with natal placements or period influences."

 

Does this mean that Since USA has Cancer rising, this opposition of Saturn and Jupiter will bring USA in Focus around the globe due to its Highest Ever Debt, which in turn will weaken the USD (just as Euro fell as Greece Debt Problems arised in Eurozone).

 

In the case of countries with Virgo and Pisces, Saturn becomes an FM

and for Taurus and Capricorn Jupiter becomes an FM.

 

inferring from the above please comment that since India has Taurus as rising Sign, Jupiter becomes FM; What events are likely to happen in India during Summer with Jupiter becoming FM ??

 

Thanks,

Best Regards,

Arun Birla.

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 5:13:48 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Hello list,

 

Greece receives bail out package with positive influnence on euro. This suggests some easing of conditions facing the country and the EU, with influence on the common currency, the euro.

 

Euro Rises to 3-Week High as Greece Gets $61 Billion EU Package

April 12 (Bloomberg) -- The euro strengthened to the highest level in more than three weeks versus the dollar after Greece got an international rescue package worth as much as 45 billion euros ($61 billion) to help it avoid a default. The common currency’s gain was its third in as many days, and helped send the Dollar Index down to the lowest level since March 18. South Korea’s won climbed to its strongest in more than 18 months as the central bank raised its economic forecast. The Australian dollar snapped two days of gains as a government report showed the nation’s housing market may weaken. “The big, fat bail-out plan for Greece should spark a further wave of risk-taking across the board to the detriment of the dollar today,†strategists at UniCredit SpA team headed by Michael Rottman in Munich wrote in an investor note. “The euro should

easily outperform the other foreign-exchange majors.â€

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087 & sid=acdzAHPsXMNs & pos=2

 

We can look at the influence of the Saturn-Jupiter opposition this summer on public debt and currency values for insight into possible rising signs for the entities involved. The influence should be clearly negative for countries with Cancer rising as then Saturn and Jupiter become functional malefics and more so where the opposition ties in with natal placements or period influences. In the case of countries with Virgo and Pisces, Saturn becomes an FM and for Taurus and Capricorn Jupiter becomes an FM. Also in these countries, some problems are expected relating to the indications of either Saturn or Jupiter.

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarbor@ >SAMVA Mon, April 12, 2010 4:05:48 AMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarbor@ >SAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:48:41 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Isn't Poland Part of European Union? Just a question.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

"lila (AT) lisco (DOT) com" <lilaSAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:20:39 PMRe: Death of Polish president

Poor guy.I spoke with one of my Polish vendors and this is a big big deal in Polandbecause they lost everyone in charge of one side of the government.Apparently Poland has two sides to their government. They explained to methat it is something like how we have Republicans and Democrats. Everyoneon board was from one side of the government. She said it is like if wewoke up and all Democrat or the Republican side of the government were alldead.So now they have to replace one entire side, or faction, of theirgovernment. No one knows how they are going to do this and the Polish arevery fearful that their currency will devalue because the head of theirmonetary system was killed in the plane accident also.Lila>> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members> Born: 18 June 1949

at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.>> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in the> sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the> sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to tenth,> second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct> with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.>> >>> .>>

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Just wondering ..does Jupiter -Saturn opposition coincide with higher dollar?

 

 

 

Arun <abirla2001SAMVA Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 4:26:01 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Dear Mr. Thor,

 

With respect to your comments :-

 

" We can look at the .........The influence should be clearly negative for countries with Cancer rising as then Saturn and Jupiter become functional malefics and more so where the opposition ties in with natal placements or period influences."

 

Does this mean that Since USA has Cancer rising, this opposition of Saturn and Jupiter will bring USA in Focus around the globe due to its Highest Ever Debt, which in turn will weaken the USD (just as Euro fell as Greece Debt Problems arised in Eurozone).

 

In the case of countries with Virgo and Pisces, Saturn becomes an FM

and for Taurus and Capricorn Jupiter becomes an FM.

 

inferring from the above please comment that since India has Taurus as rising Sign, Jupiter becomes FM; What events are likely to happen in India during Summer with Jupiter becoming FM ??

 

Thanks,

Best Regards,

Arun Birla.

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Mon, April 12, 2010 5:13:48 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Hello list,

 

Greece receives bail out package with positive influnence on euro. This suggests some easing of conditions facing the country and the EU, with influence on the common currency, the euro.

 

Euro Rises to 3-Week High as Greece Gets $61 Billion EU Package

April 12 (Bloomberg) -- The euro strengthened to the highest level in more than three weeks versus the dollar after Greece got an international rescue package worth as much as 45 billion euros ($61 billion) to help it avoid a default. The common currency’s gain was its third in as many days, and helped send the Dollar Index down to the lowest level since March 18. South Korea’s won climbed to its strongest in more than 18 months as the central bank raised its economic forecast. The Australian dollar snapped two days of gains as a government report showed the nation’s housing market may weaken. “The big, fat bail-out plan for Greece should spark a further wave of risk-taking across the board to the detriment of the dollar today,†strategists at UniCredit SpA team headed by Michael Rottman in Munich wrote in an investor note. “The euro should

easily outperform the other foreign-exchange majors.â€

http://www.bloomber g.com/apps/ news?pid= 20601087 & sid=acdzAHPsXMNs & pos=2

 

We can look at the influence of the Saturn-Jupiter opposition this summer on public debt and currency values for insight into possible rising signs for the entities involved. The influence should be clearly negative for countries with Cancer rising as then Saturn and Jupiter become functional malefics and more so where the opposition ties in with natal placements or period influences. In the case of countries with Virgo and Pisces, Saturn becomes an FM and for Taurus and Capricorn Jupiter becomes an FM. Also in these countries, some problems are expected relating to the indications of either Saturn or Jupiter.

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarbor@ >SAMVA Mon, April 12, 2010 4:05:48 AMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarbor@ >SAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:48:41 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Isn't Poland Part of European Union? Just a question.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

"lila (AT) lisco (DOT) com" <lilaSAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:20:39 PMRe: Death of Polish president

Poor guy.I spoke with one of my Polish vendors and this is a big big deal in Polandbecause they lost everyone in charge of one side of the government.Apparently Poland has two sides to their government. They explained to methat it is something like how we have Republicans and Democrats. Everyoneon board was from one side of the government. She said it is like if wewoke up and all Democrat or the Republican side of the government were alldead.So now they have to replace one entire side, or faction, of theirgovernment. No one knows how they are going to do this and the Polish arevery fearful that their currency will devalue because the head of theirmonetary system was killed in the plane accident also.Lila>> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members> Born: 18 June 1949

at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.>> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in the> sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the> sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to tenth,> second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct> with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.>> >>> .>>

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Hello Peter,

 

Astrologer & author V. K. Choudhry gave the following definition of currency strength on the SAMVA list on September 26, 2000, prompted by my question:

 

“It is the power of the state which is shown through the strength of the currency. The authority is first vested in the Sun and then in the Moon. The good financial strength of the nation/wealth is seen through the second house and the regular flow of income is seen through the eleventh house. Taken all these four together they show the real strength of the currency of a particular country.â€

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2010/03/currency-strength.html

 

Other factors may impinge.

http://cosmologer.blogspot.com/2010/01/coming-jupiter-saturn-opposition.html

 

Thor

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarborSAMVA Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 12:47:48 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Just wondering ..does Jupiter -Saturn opposition coincide with higher dollar?

 

 

 

Arun <abirla2001SAMVA Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 4:26:01 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Dear Mr. Thor,

 

With respect to your comments :-

 

" We can look at the .........The influence should be clearly negative for countries with Cancer rising as then Saturn and Jupiter become functional malefics and more so where the opposition ties in with natal placements or period influences."

 

Does this mean that Since USA has Cancer rising, this opposition of Saturn and Jupiter will bring USA in Focus around the globe due to its Highest Ever Debt, which in turn will weaken the USD (just as Euro fell as Greece Debt Problems arised in Eurozone).

 

In the case of countries with Virgo and Pisces, Saturn becomes an FM

and for Taurus and Capricorn Jupiter becomes an FM.

 

inferring from the above please comment that since India has Taurus as rising Sign, Jupiter becomes FM; What events are likely to happen in India during Summer with Jupiter becoming FM ??

 

Thanks,

Best Regards,

Arun Birla.

 

 

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologer >SAMVA Mon, April 12, 2010 5:13:48 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Hello list,

 

Greece receives bail out package with positive influnence on euro. This suggests some easing of conditions facing the country and the EU, with influence on the common currency, the euro.

 

Euro Rises to 3-Week High as Greece Gets $61 Billion EU Package

April 12 (Bloomberg) -- The euro strengthened to the highest level in more than three weeks versus the dollar after Greece got an international rescue package worth as much as 45 billion euros ($61 billion) to help it avoid a default. The common currency’s gain was its third in as many days, and helped send the Dollar Index down to the lowest level since March 18. South Korea’s won climbed to its strongest in more than 18 months as the central bank raised its economic forecast. The Australian dollar snapped two days of gains as a government report showed the nation’s housing market may weaken. “The big, fat bail-out plan for Greece should spark a further wave of risk-taking across the board to the detriment of the dollar today,†strategists at UniCredit SpA team headed by Michael Rottman in Munich wrote in an investor note. “The euro should

easily outperform the other foreign-exchange majors.â€

http://www.bloomber g.com/apps/ news?pid= 20601087 & sid=acdzAHPsXMNs & pos=2

 

We can look at the influence of the Saturn-Jupiter opposition this summer on public debt and currency values for insight into possible rising signs for the entities involved. The influence should be clearly negative for countries with Cancer rising as then Saturn and Jupiter become functional malefics and more so where the opposition ties in with natal placements or period influences. In the case of countries with Virgo and Pisces, Saturn becomes an FM and for Taurus and Capricorn Jupiter becomes an FM. Also in these countries, some problems are expected relating to the indications of either Saturn or Jupiter.

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarbor@ >SAMVA Mon, April 12, 2010 4:05:48 AMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

 

 

 

Peter P <peterannarbor@ >SAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:48:41 PMRe: Death of Polish president

 

 

Isn't Poland Part of European Union? Just a question.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

"lila (AT) lisco (DOT) com" <lilaSAMVA Sun, April 11, 2010 11:20:39 PMRe: Death of Polish president

Poor guy.I spoke with one of my Polish vendors and this is a big big deal in Polandbecause they lost everyone in charge of one side of the government.Apparently Poland has two sides to their government. They explained to methat it is something like how we have Republicans and Democrats. Everyoneon board was from one side of the government. She said it is like if wewoke up and all Democrat or the Republican side of the government were alldead.So now they have to replace one entire side, or faction, of theirgovernment. No one knows how they are going to do this and the Polish arevery fearful that their currency will devalue because the head of theirmonetary system was killed in the plane accident also.Lila>> For the late Polish President, Mr. Lech Kaczynski, the following birth> details were given on SystemsApproach list by one of the members> Born: 18 June 1949

at 02.45 in Warsaw,Poland.>> In this chart, Jupiter rules the eighth house ruling death, He was in the> sub period of Jupiter (8L) in the main period of Venus the lord of the> sixth house ruling accidents. The transit Jupiter was on the most> effective point of the tenth house and causing close affliction to tenth,> second, fourth and sixth houses. The transit Ketu was closely conjunct> with the natal Venus. All these give indications of accident and death.>> >>> .>>

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