Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 Dear Guru's and Learned Members, Namaste, While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, referecne page 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which is: If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is formed and this will occur " later in life " . Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at what age for the native. Thanks for your help in educating me. Regards Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji had taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses 3,9 and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu yoga occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age houses. Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong. Rohini varahamihira , Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote: > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > Namaste, > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, referecne page > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which > is: > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is > formed and this will occur " later in life " . > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at > what age for the native. > > Thanks for your help in educating me. > > Regards > Rao > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Jyotishas, The sequence is (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12)years the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late respectively. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran varahamihira , " rohinipurang " <rohinipurang> wrote: > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji had > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses 3,9 > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu yoga > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age houses. > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong. > > Rohini > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani <raonemani> > wrote: > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > > > Namaste, > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, referecne page > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which > > is: > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is > > formed and this will occur " later in life " . > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at > > what age for the native. > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me. > > > > Regards > > Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear S.Prabhakaran and Rohini Ji's, Thanks for your replies and it is clear to me now. Regards Rao varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Jyotishas, > The sequence is > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12)years > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late > respectively. > Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran > > > varahamihira , " rohinipurang " > <rohinipurang> wrote: > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji had > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses 3,9 > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu yoga > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age houses. > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Rohini > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani <raonemani> > > wrote: > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, referecne page > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which > > > is: > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is > > > formed and this will occur " later in life " . > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at > > > what age for the native. > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me. > > > > > > Regards > > > Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 dea sanjay prabhakaran ji, 1st set has ex & deb signs of mo & mars, 3rd has ex & deb signs of sat & nodes. is that the reason behind this or just interestin coincidence? with regards prashant varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Jyotishas, > The sequence is > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12)years > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late > respectively. > Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran > > > varahamihira , " rohinipurang " > <rohinipurang> wrote: > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji had > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses 3,9 > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu yoga > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age houses. > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Rohini > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani <raonemani> > > wrote: > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, referecne page > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which > > > is: > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is > > > formed and this will occur " later in life " . > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at > > > what age for the native. > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me. > > > > > > Regards > > > Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Om krishna guru: Prashant: The numbers that sanjay prabhakaran has given is counted from lagna and not aries. your observation is valid only if counting is done from aries as the lagna. Ishwar varahamihira , " prashantnarang " <prashantnarang> wrote: > dea sanjay prabhakaran ji, > 1st set has ex & deb signs of mo & mars, 3rd has ex & deb signs of > sat & nodes. > is that the reason behind this or just interestin coincidence? > with regards > prashant > varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " > <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Jyotishas, > > The sequence is > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12) years > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late > > respectively. > > Warm Regards > > S. Prabhakaran > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Jyotishas, The counting is done from the fourth house (where the creation begins). It's like Rahu being in 4th house doing manduka gati and going to exaltation. That's all the clue I got. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran varahamihira , " avikrishna " <avikrishna> wrote: > Om krishna guru: > > Prashant: > > The numbers that sanjay prabhakaran has given is counted from lagna > and not aries. your observation is valid only if counting is done > from aries as the lagna. > > > Ishwar > > varahamihira , " prashantnarang " > <prashantnarang> wrote: > > dea sanjay prabhakaran ji, > > 1st set has ex & deb signs of mo & mars, 3rd has ex & deb signs of > > sat & nodes. > > is that the reason behind this or just interestin coincidence? > > with regards > > prashant > > varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > The sequence is > > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) > > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12) > years > > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73- 108/late > > > respectively. > > > Warm Regards > > > S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Sanjay, Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60-65 which I think is the average life expectancy in India, such people having such combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will not live to see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit well... Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 parts and then make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector these raj yogs manifest.. Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see that the longevity of a particular native is 60 years (hypothetical) Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and PK are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-60... Maybe during vedic era people lived upto 120 years in todays day and age its different.... similarly retirment age is also different... Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this point.. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Jyotishas, > The sequence is > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12)years > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late > respectively. > Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran > > > varahamihira , " rohinipurang " > <rohinipurang> wrote: > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji had > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses 3,9 > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu yoga > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age houses. > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Rohini > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani <raonemani> > > wrote: > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, referecne page > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which > > > is: > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is > > > formed and this will occur " later in life " . > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at > > > what age for the native. > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me. > > > > > > Regards > > > Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Ash, When you count from Lagna you divide life relatively as early , middle and late. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran varahamihira , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Sanjay, > Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60-65 which I think > is the average life expectancy in India, such people having such > combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will not live to > see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit well... > > Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 parts and then > make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector these raj yogs > manifest.. > > Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see that the > longevity of a particular native is 60 years (hypothetical) > > Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and PK > are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40- 60... > > Maybe during vedic era people lived upto 120 years in todays day and > age its different.... similarly retirment age is also different... > > Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this point.. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " > <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Jyotishas, > > The sequence is > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12) years > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late > > respectively. > > Warm Regards > > S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > varahamihira , " rohinipurang " > > <rohinipurang> wrote: > > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji > had > > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses 3,9 > > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu > yoga > > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age houses. > > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > Rohini > > > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani <raonemani> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, referecne page > > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which > > > > is: > > > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is > > > > formed and this will occur " later in life " . > > > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine > > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at > > > > what age for the native. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran Ji, Thanks for your reply to Ash's question, but I did not understand your answer to his question. I am reproducing Ash's question one more time for your convenience and request you to answer with more detail. " Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and PK are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-60... " Thanks for your helo in advance. Regards Rao varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Ash, > When you count from Lagna you divide life relatively as early , > middle and late. > > Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran > > varahamihira , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > Dear Sanjay, > > Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60-65 which I > think > > is the average life expectancy in India, such people having such > > combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will not live to > > see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit well... > > > > Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 parts and > then > > make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector these raj > yogs > > manifest.. > > > > Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see that the > > longevity of a particular native is 60 years (hypothetical) > > > > Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and > PK > > are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40- > 60... > > > > Maybe during vedic era people lived upto 120 years in todays day > and > > age its different.... similarly retirment age is also different... > > > > Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this point.. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > The sequence is > > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) > > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12) > years > > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73- 108/late > > > respectively. > > > Warm Regards > > > S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , " rohinipurang " > > > <rohinipurang> wrote: > > > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji > > had > > > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses > 3,9 > > > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu > > yoga > > > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age > houses. > > > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > Rohini > > > > > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani > <raonemani> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, referecne page > > > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which > > > > > is: > > > > > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is > > > > > formed and this will occur " later in life " . > > > > > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine > > > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at > > > > > what age for the native. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rao, Sanjay.P uses the word "relatively", which I presume is the answer to Ashs' question. The first step in any astrology book that you may have noticed is to determine longevity.Everything else has to be delineated in that relative sense.So Ashs' contention that a sixty year life-span person's raja yoga of the 7th house will operate between 40-60 appears right. Hare Krishna SudharsanRao Nemani <raonemani wrote: Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran Ji,Thanks for your reply to Ash's question, but I did not understand your answer to his question. I am reproducing Ash's question one more time for your convenience and request you to answer with more detail."Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and PK are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-60..."Thanks for your helo in advance.RegardsRaovarahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Ash,> When you count from Lagna you divide life relatively as early , > middle and late.> > Warm Regards> S. Prabhakaran> > varahamihira , "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote:> > Dear Sanjay,> > Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60-65 which I > think > > is the average life expectancy in India, such people having such > > combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will not live to > > see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit well...> > > > Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 parts and > then > > make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector these raj > yogs > > manifest..> > > > Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see that the > > longevity of a particular native is 60 years (hypothetical)> > > > Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and > PK > > are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-> 60...> > > > Maybe during vedic era people lived upto 120 years in todays day > and > > age its different.... similarly retirment age is also different...> > > > Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this point..> > > > Thanking you,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > varahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > Dear Jyotishas,> > > The sequence is > > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3)> > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12)> years> > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late > > > respectively.> > > Warm Regards> > > S. Prabhakaran> > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "rohinipurang" > > > <rohinipurang> wrote:> > > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji > > had > > > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses > 3,9 > > > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu > > yoga > > > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age > houses. > > > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong.> > > > > > > > Rohini> > > > > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani > <raonemani> > > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members,> > > > > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, referecne page> > > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which> > > > > is:> > > > > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is> > > > > formed and this will occur "later in life". > > > > > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine> > > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at> > > > > what age for the native.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Hello Sundarsan and Rao, After this message I see I need some clarifications, too- you said that 7th house RY will operate for sure, but that, depending on life-span , will happen in it's third part - so it's relative position depending on particular person's longevity. if life span happened to be 30 years, 7th H RY will kick in in third part- 20-30y, or what if it's even shorter? Some Yogas from the chart will never fructify in one's life- I would need to wait here, on this level of existence more than 30 yrs. /after my death!/ for Ju MD to kick in. Or, more realistically, I will never experience this during THIS life. Why would 7th RY be an exception? Regards, Anna - Sudharsan Srinivasan varahamihira Friday, August 22, 2003 12:47 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rao, Sanjay.P uses the word "relatively", which I presume is the answer to Ashs' question. The first step in any astrology book that you may have noticed is to determine longevity.Everything else has to be delineated in that relative sense.So Ashs' contention that a sixty year life-span person's raja yoga of the 7th house will operate between 40-60 appears right. Hare Krishna SudharsanRao Nemani <raonemani wrote: Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran Ji,Thanks for your reply to Ash's question, but I did not understand your answer to his question. I am reproducing Ash's question one more time for your convenience and request you to answer with more detail."Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and PK are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-60..."Thanks for your helo in advance.RegardsRaovarahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Ash,> When you count from Lagna you divide life relatively as early , > middle and late.> > Warm Regards> S. Prabhakaran> > varahamihira , "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote: & gt; > Dear Sanjay,> > Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60-65 which I > think > > is the average life expectancy in India, such people having such > > combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will not live to > > see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit well...> > > > Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 parts and > then > > make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector these raj > yogs > > manifest..> > > > Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see that the > > longevity of a particular native is 60 years (hypothetical)> > > > Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and > PK > > are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-> 60...> > > > Maybe during vedic era peo ple lived upto 120 years in todays day > and > > age its different.... similarly retirment age is also different...> > > > Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this point..> > > > Thanking you,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > varahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > Dear Jyotishas,> > > The sequence is > > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3)> > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12)> years> > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late > > > respectively.> > > Warm Regards> > > S. Prabhakaran> > > > > > > > > varahamihira m, "rohinipurang" > > > <rohinipurang> wrote:> > > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji > > had > > > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses > 3,9 > > > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu > > yoga > > > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age > houses. > > > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong.> > > > > > > > Rohini> > > > > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani > <raonemani> > > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members,> > > > > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, ref erecne page> > > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which> > > > > is:> > > > > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is> > > > > formed and this will occur "later in life". > > > > > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine> > > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at> > > > > what age for the native.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Anna, I was not referring to the 7th house in particular. I was only stating that relative longevity has to be taken into account and stages in life have to be delineated after that. But these are my assumptions and has no scriptural basis or source.This is a question that I will refer to Sanjay Ji during the East Coast Conference or in the meantime if any other member or Guru has a Scriptural basis to provide, it will be great. Hare Krishna Sudharsan"N.Anna" <anmar wrote: Hello Sundarsan and Rao, After this message I see I need some clarifications, too- you said that 7th house RY will operate for sure, but that, depending on life-span , will happen in it's third part - so it's relative position depending on particular person's longevity. if life span happened to be 30 years, 7th H RY will kick in in third part- 20-30y, or what if it's even shorter? Some Yogas from the chart will never fructify in one's life- I would need to wait here, on this level of existence more than 30 yrs. /after my death!/ for Ju MD to kick in. Or, more realistically, I will never experience this during THIS life. Why would 7th RY be an exception? Regards, Anna - Sudharsan Srinivasan varahamihira Friday, August 22, 2003 12:47 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rao, Sanjay.P uses the word "relatively", which I presume is the answer to Ashs' question. The first step in any astrology book that you may have noticed is to determine longevity.Everything else has to be delineated in that relative sense.So Ashs' contention that a sixty year life-span person's raja yoga of the 7th house will operate between 40-60 appears right. Hare Krishna SudharsanRao Nemani <raonemani wrote: Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran Ji,Thanks for your reply to Ash's question, but I did not understand your answer to his question. I am reproducing Ash's question one more time for your convenience and request you to answer with more detail."Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and PK are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-60..."Thanks for your helo in advance.RegardsRaovarahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Ash,> When you count from Lagna you divide life relatively as early , > middle and late.> > Warm Regards> S. Prabhakaran> > varahamihira , "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote: & gt; > Dear Sanjay,> > Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60-65 which I > think > > is the average life expectancy in India, such people having such > > combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will not live to > > see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit well...> > > > Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 parts and > then > > make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector these raj > yogs > > manifest..> > > > Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see that the > > longevity of a particular native is 60 years (hypothetical)> > > > Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and > PK > > are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-> 60...> > > > Maybe during vedic era peo ple lived upto 120 years in todays day > and > > age its different.... similarly retirment age is also different...> > > > Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this point..> > > > Thanking you,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > varahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > Dear Jyotishas,> > > The sequence is > > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3)> > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12)> years> > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late > > > respectively.> > > Warm Regards> > > S. Prabhakaran> > > > > > > > > varahamihira m, "rohinipurang" > > > <rohinipurang> wrote:> > > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji > > had > > > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses > 3,9 > > > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu > > yoga > > > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age > houses. > > > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong.> > > > > > > > Rohini> > > > > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani > <raonemani> > > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members,> > > > > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, ref erecne page> > > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which> > > > > is:> > > > > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is> > > > > formed and this will occur "later in life". > > > > > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine> > > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at> > > > > what age for the native.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Sundharsan and Rao, I think I am getting your point now. The assumption that we start with life-time determination, then 'clice' it to adjust for ANY yoga present in the chart, doesn't seems to be correct- we may start with longevity determination, to see what of natal potentials /yogas etc../will fructify during ones' lifetime. Some will never be experienced, and therefore we will never fully experience some yogas/natal chart potentials. We will experience 'partially' the energy of particular planet, though- in sub, sus-sub dasa periods- not full blown effect. Hope this helps, Anna - Sudharsan Srinivasan varahamihira Friday, August 22, 2003 3:13 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? Hare Rama Krishna Dear Anna, I was not referring to the 7th house in particular. I was only stating that relative longevity has to be taken into account and stages in life have to be delineated after that. But these are my assumptions and has no scriptural basis or source.This is a question that I will refer to Sanjay Ji during the East Coast Conference or in the meantime if any other member or Guru has a Scriptural basis to provide, it will be great. Hare Krishna Sudharsan"N.Anna" <anmar wrote: Hello Sundarsan and Rao, After this message I see I need some clarifications, too- you said that 7th house RY will operate for sure, but that, depending on life-span , will happen in it's third part - so it's relative position depending on particular person's longevity. if life span happened to be 30 years, 7th H RY will kick in in third part- 20-30y, or what if it's even shorter? Some Yogas from the chart will never fructify in one's life- I would need to wait here, on this level of existence more than 30 yrs. /after my death!/ for Ju MD to kick in. Or, more realistically, I will never experience this during THIS life. Why would 7th RY be an exception? Regards, Anna - Sudharsan Srinivasan varahamihira Friday, August 22, 2003 12:47 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rao, Sanjay.P uses the word "relatively", which I presume is the answer to Ashs' question. The first step in any astrology book that you may have noticed is to determine longevity.Everything else has to be delineated in that relative sense.So Ashs' contention that a sixty year life-span person's raja yoga of the 7th house will operate between 40-60 appears right. Hare Krishna SudharsanRao Nemani <raonemani wrote: Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran Ji,Thanks for your reply to Ash's question, but I did not understand your answer to his question. I am reproducing Ash's question one more time for your convenience and request you to answer with more detail."Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and PK are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-60..."Thanks for your helo in advance.RegardsRaovarahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Ash,> When you count from Lagna you divide life relatively as early , > middle and late.> > Warm Regards> S. Prabhakaran> > varahamihira , "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote: & amp; gt; > Dear Sanjay,> > Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60-65 which I > think > > is the average life expectancy in India, such people having such > > combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will not live to > > see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit well...> > > > Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 parts and > then > > make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector these raj > yogs > > manifest..> > > > Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see that the > > longevity of a particular native is 60 years (hypothetical)> > > > Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK and > PK > > are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-> 60...> > > > Maybe during vedic er a peo ple lived upto 120 years in todays day > and > > age its different.... similarly retirment age is also different...> > > > Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this point..> > > > Thanking you,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > varahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > Dear Jyotishas,> > > The sequence is > > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3)> > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12)> years> > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-108/late > > > respectively.> > > Warm Regards> > > S. Prabhakaran> > > > > > > > > varahamihira@ s.co m, "rohinipurang" > > > <rohinipurang> wrote:> > > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once Sanjayji > > had > > > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses > 3,9 > > > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet ayu > > yoga > > > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age > houses. > > > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong.> > > > > > > > Rohini> > > > > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani > <raonemani> > > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members,> > > > > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, ref erecne page> > > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which> > > > > is:> > > > > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is> > > > > formed and this will occur "later in life". > > > > > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine> > > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at> > > > > what age for the native.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Rao|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Sundharsan and Anna, Thanks for all your replies and notes and can you please ask this question to Sanjay Ji during the East Coast Conference and share the answer as I have that combination in my Chart and curious to know when that would fructify. Regards Rao varahamihira , " N.Anna " <anmar@a...> wrote: > Dear Sundharsan and Rao, > > I think I am getting your point now. The assumption that we start with life-time determination, then 'clice' it to adjust for ANY yoga present in the chart, doesn't seems to be correct- we may start with longevity determination, to see what of natal potentials /yogas etc../will fructify during ones' lifetime. > Some will never be experienced, and therefore we will never fully experience some yogas/natal chart potentials. We will experience 'partially' > the energy of particular planet, though- in sub, sus-sub dasa periods- not full blown effect. > > Hope this helps, > > Anna > - > Sudharsan Srinivasan > varahamihira > Friday, August 22, 2003 3:13 PM > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Anna, > > I was not referring to the 7th house in particular. I was only stating that relative longevity has to be taken into account and stages in life have to be delineated after that. But these are my assumptions and has no scriptural basis or source.This is a question that I will refer to Sanjay Ji during the East Coast Conference or in the meantime if any other member or Guru has a Scriptural basis to provide, it will be great. > > Hare Krishna > > Sudharsan > " N.Anna " <anmar@a...> wrote: > Hello Sundarsan and Rao, > > After this message I see I need some clarifications, too- you said that 7th house RY will operate for sure, but that, depending on life-span , will happen in it's third part - so it's relative position depending on particular person's longevity. if life span happened to be 30 years, 7th H RY will kick in in third part- 20-30y, or what if it's even shorter? > > Some Yogas from the chart will never fructify in one's life- I would need to wait here, on this level of existence more than 30 yrs. /after my death!/ for Ju MD to kick in. Or, more realistically, I will never experience this during THIS life. Why would 7th RY be an exception? > > Regards, > Anna > - > Sudharsan Srinivasan > varahamihira > Friday, August 22, 2003 12:47 PM > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Rao, > > Sanjay.P uses the word " relatively " , which I presume is the answer to Ashs' question. The first step in any astrology book that you may have noticed is to determine longevity.Everything else has to be delineated in that relative sense.So Ashs' contention that a sixty year life-span person's raja yoga of the 7th house will operate between 40-60 appears right. > > Hare Krishna > > Sudharsan > > Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote: > Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran Ji, > > Thanks for your reply to Ash's question, but I did not > understand your answer to his question. > > I am reproducing Ash's question one more time for your > convenience and request you to answer with more detail. > > " Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if > say AK and PK are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify > in from the age of 40-60... " > > Thanks for your helo in advance. > > Regards > Rao > > varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " > <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Ash, > > When you count from Lagna you divide life relatively as early , > > middle and late. > > > > Warm Regards > > S. Prabhakaran > > > > varahamihira , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > wrote: > & amp; gt; > Dear Sanjay, > > > Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60-65 which I > > think > > > is the average life expectancy in India, such people having such > > > combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will not live > to > > > see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit well... > > > > > > Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 parts and > > then > > > make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector these raj > > yogs > > > manifest.. > > > > > > Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see that the > > > longevity of a particular native is 60 years (hypothetical) > > > > > > Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK > and > > PK > > > are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40- > > 60... > > > > > > Maybe during vedic er a peo ple lived upto 120 years in todays day > > and > > > age its different.... similarly retirment age is also different... > > > > > > Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this point.. > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > --- In varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " > > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > The sequence is > > > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) > > > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12) > > years > > > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73- > 108/late > > > > respectively. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira@ s.co m, " rohinipurang " > > > > <rohinipurang> wrote: > > > > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once > Sanjayji > > > had > > > > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses > > 3,9 > > > > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet > ayu > > > yoga > > > > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age > > houses. > > > > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Rohini > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani > > <raonemani> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, ref erecne page > > > > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which > > > > > > is: > > > > > > > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is > > > > > > formed and this will occur " later in life " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine > > > > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at > > > > > > what age for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rao > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Hello Rao, You'll experience your natal potential in full when Dasa/sub, sub-sub/ of the planet comes- apparently we look at any yoga /yoga givers plnets- in the context , having entire picture in consideration- so 'when my yoga will kick in' in your horoscope- Look at MD planet, sub/sub-sub, planets, placement, etc. As you know specific configurations have to be explored /one planet taking the duty on another planet it's connected with, etc, exceptions/ to predict which house/s affairs wild be predominant in any particular period. /Rashi d. Vimsott,, any dasha system you use/ Hope it' s clearer now. Anna - Rao Nemani varahamihira Friday, August 22, 2003 4:17 PM |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? Dear Sundharsan and Anna,Thanks for all your replies and notes and can you please ask this question to Sanjay Ji during the East Coast Conference and share the answer as I have that combination in my Chart and curious to know when that would fructify.RegardsRaovarahamihira , "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote:> Dear Sundharsan and Rao,> > I think I am getting your point now. The assumption that we start with life-time determination, then 'clice' it to adjust for ANY yoga present in the chart, doesn't seems to be correct- we may start with longevity determination, to see what of natal potentials /yogas etc../will fructify during ones' lifetime.> Some will never be experienced, and therefore we will never fully experience some yogas/natal chart potentials. We will experience 'partially' > the energy of particular planet, though- in sub, sus-sub dasa periods- not full blown effect. > > Hope this helps,> > Anna> - > Sudharsan Srinivasan > varahamihira > Friday, August 22, 2003 3:13 PM> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Anna,> > I was not referring to the 7th house in particular. I was only stating that relative longevity has to be taken into account and stages in life have to be delineated after that. But these are my assumptions and has no scriptural basis or source.This is a question that I will refer to Sanjay Ji during the East Coast Conference or in the meantime if any other member or Guru has a Scriptural basis to provide, it will be great.> > Hare Krishna> > Sudharsan> "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote:> Hello Sundarsan and Rao, > > After this message I see I need some clarifications, too- you said that 7th house RY will operate for sure, but that, depending on life-span , will happen in it's third part - so it's relative position depending on particular person's longevity. if life span happened to be 30 years, 7th H RY will kick in in third part- 20-30y, or what if it's even shorter?> > Some Yogas from the chart will never fructify in one's life- I would need to wait here, on this level of existence more than 30 yrs. /after my death!/ for Ju MD to kick in. Or, more realistically, I will never experience this during THIS life. Why would 7th RY be an exception?> > Regards,> Anna> - > Sudharsan Srinivasan > varahamihira > Friday, August 22, 2003 12:47 PM> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ?> > > Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Rao,> > Sanjay.P uses the word "relatively", which I presume is the answer to Ashs' question. The first step in any astrology book that you may have noticed is to determine longevity.Everything else has to be delineated in that relative sense.So Ashs' contention that a sixty year life-span person's raja yoga of the 7th house will operate between 40-60 appears right.> > Hare Krishna> > Sudharsan> > Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran Ji,> > Thanks for your reply to Ash's question, but I did not > understand your answer to his question. > > I am reproducing Ash's question one more time for your > convenience and request you to answer with more detail.> > "Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if > say AK and PK are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify > in from the age of 40-60..."> > Thanks for your helo in advance.> > Regards> Rao> > varahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" > <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Dear Ash,> > When you count from Lagna you divide life relatively as early , > > middle and late.> > > > Warm Regards> > S. Prabhakaran> > > > varahamihira , "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> > wrote:> & amp; gt; > Dear Sanjay,> > > Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60-65 which I > > think > > > is the average life expectancy in India, such people having such > > > combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will not live > to > > > see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit well...> > > > > > Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 parts and > > then > > > make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector these raj > > yogs > > > manifest..> > > > > > Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see that the > > > longevity of a particular native is 60 years (hypothetical)> > > > > > Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if say AK > and > > PK > > > are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the age of 40-> > 60...> > > > > > Maybe during vedic er a peo ple lived upto 120 years in todays day > > and > > > age its different.... similarly retirment age is also different...> > > > > > Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this point..> > > > > > Thanking you,> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > varahamihira , "sanjayprabhakaran" > > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > Dear Jyotishas,> > > > The sequence is > > > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3)> > > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to 108(9x12)> > years> > > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37-72/middle, 73-> 108/late > > > > respectively.> > > > Warm Regards> > > > S. Prabhakaran> > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira@ s.co m, "rohinipurang" > > > > <rohinipurang> wrote:> > > > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but once > Sanjayji > > > had > > > > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood houses, houses > > 3,9 > > > > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, vipreet > ayu > > > yoga > > > > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the middle age > > houses. > > > > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong.> > > > > > > > > > Rohini> > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani > > <raonemani> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members,> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, ref erecne page> > > > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, which> > > > > > is:> > > > > > > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a RajaYoga is> > > > > > formed and this will occur "later in life". > > > > > > > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to determine> > > > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur and at> > > > > > what age for the native.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Rao> > > > |Om Tat Sat|> http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 dear anna, what if he is born in md-sub of the yogakarta posited in 7th ?(other conditions in control) prashant -- In varahamihira , " N.Anna " <anmar@a...> wrote: > Hello Rao, > > You'll experience your natal potential in full when Dasa/sub, sub- sub/ of the planet comes- apparently we look at any yoga /yoga givers plnets- in the context , having entire picture in consideration- so 'when my yoga will kick in' in your horoscope- > Look at MD planet, sub/sub-sub, planets, placement, etc. > As you know specific configurations have to be explored /one planet taking the duty on another planet it's connected with, etc, exceptions/ > to predict which house/s affairs wild be predominant in any particular period. /Rashi d. Vimsott,, any dasha system you use/ > > Hope it' s clearer now. > > Anna > - > Rao Nemani > varahamihira > Friday, August 22, 2003 4:17 PM > |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? > > > Dear Sundharsan and Anna, > > Thanks for all your replies and notes and can you please ask > this question to Sanjay Ji during the East Coast Conference > and share the answer as I have that combination in my Chart > and curious to know when that would fructify. > > Regards > Rao > varahamihira , " N.Anna " <anmar@a...> wrote: > > Dear Sundharsan and Rao, > > > > I think I am getting your point now. The assumption that we start > with life-time determination, then 'clice' it to adjust for ANY yoga > present in the chart, doesn't seems to be correct- we may start with > longevity determination, to see what of natal potentials /yogas > etc../will fructify during ones' lifetime. > > Some will never be experienced, and therefore we will never fully > experience some yogas/natal chart potentials. We will > experience 'partially' > > the energy of particular planet, though- in sub, sus-sub dasa > periods- not full blown effect. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Anna > > - > > Sudharsan Srinivasan > > varahamihira > > Friday, August 22, 2003 3:13 PM > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Anna, > > > > I was not referring to the 7th house in particular. I was only > stating that relative longevity has to be taken into account and > stages in life have to be delineated after that. But these are my > assumptions and has no scriptural basis or source.This is a question > that I will refer to Sanjay Ji during the East Coast Conference or in > the meantime if any other member or Guru has a Scriptural basis to > provide, it will be great. > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > Sudharsan > > " N.Anna " <anmar@a...> wrote: > > Hello Sundarsan and Rao, > > > > After this message I see I need some clarifications, too- you > said that 7th house RY will operate for sure, but that, depending on > life-span , will happen in it's third part - so it's relative > position depending on particular person's longevity. if life span > happened to be 30 years, 7th H RY will kick in in third part- 20- 30y, > or what if it's even shorter? > > > > Some Yogas from the chart will never fructify in one's life- I > would need to wait here, on this level of existence more than 30 > yrs. /after my death!/ for Ju MD to kick in. Or, more realistically, > I will never experience this during THIS life. Why would 7th RY be an > exception? > > > > Regards, > > Anna > > - > > Sudharsan Srinivasan > > varahamihira > > Friday, August 22, 2003 12:47 PM > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Raja Yoga Clarification ? > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > Sanjay.P uses the word " relatively " , which I presume is the > answer to Ashs' question. The first step in any astrology book that > you may have noticed is to determine longevity.Everything else has to > be delineated in that relative sense.So Ashs' contention that a sixty > year life-span person's raja yoga of the 7th house will operate > between 40-60 appears right. > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > Sudharsan > > > > Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote: > > Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran Ji, > > > > Thanks for your reply to Ash's question, but I did not > > understand your answer to his question. > > > > I am reproducing Ash's question one more time for your > > convenience and request you to answer with more detail. > > > > " Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if > > say AK and PK are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify > > in from the age of 40-60... " > > > > Thanks for your helo in advance. > > > > Regards > > Rao > > > > --- In varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear Ash, > > > When you count from Lagna you divide life relatively as > early , > > > middle and late. > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > varahamihira , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@h...> > > wrote: > > & amp; gt; > Dear Sanjay, > > > > Does it mean that if a person dies at the age of 60- 65 > which I > > > think > > > > is the average life expectancy in India, such people > having such > > > > combinations like AK and PK together in 7th house will > not live > > to > > > > see the raj yog manifest.... somehow it does not sit > well... > > > > > > > > Is it possible to Divide the Life of the person into 3 > parts and > > > then > > > > make equal divisions and then in the last 1/3rd sector > these raj > > > yogs > > > > manifest.. > > > > > > > > Keeping the same example... say from a chart we can see > that the > > > > longevity of a particular native is 60 years > (hypothetical) > > > > > > > > Then divide 60 into 3 parts of 20 years each ... and if > say AK > > and > > > PK > > > > are in 7th then the raj yogs will frutify in from the > age of 40- > > > 60... > > > > > > > > Maybe during vedic er a peo ple lived upto 120 years in > todays day > > > and > > > > age its different.... similarly retirment age is also > different... > > > > > > > > Hope to hear your views... and also of others on this > point.. > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In > varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " > > > > <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > The sequence is > > > > > (4, 2, 8, 10,)( 12, 6, 5, 11,)( 1, 7, 9, 3) > > > > > It's the Naisargika Rasi Dasa sequence ammounting to > 108(9x12) > > > years > > > > > the groups represent years 0-36/early,37- 72/middle, > 73- > > 108/late > > > > > respectively. > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira@ s.co m, " rohinipurang " > > > > > <rohinipurang> wrote: > > > > > > I am not sure of the details of exact age etc but > once > > Sanjayji > > > > had > > > > > > taught that houses 2,8 and 4,10 are childhood > houses, houses > > > 3,9 > > > > > > and 1,7 are old age houses (which is why, I guess, > vipreet > > ayu > > > > yoga > > > > > > occurs in these). Houses 5,11 and 6,12 are the > middle age > > > houses. > > > > > > Gurus may please correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani > > > <raonemani> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While reading the Upadesa Sutra's book, ref > erecne page > > > > > > > 236, Sloka 3.1.3, one thing was not clear to me, > which > > > > > > > is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Ak and PK are conjoined in 7th house a > RajaYoga is > > > > > > > formed and this will occur " later in life " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can some one please clarify to me, how to > determine > > > > > > > the fructification of this RajaYoga will occur > and at > > > > > > > what age for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in educating me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rao > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > > http://www.varahamihira > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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