To Abort or not to Abort - a case study (Chandrashekharji)

August 27, 2003

Dear Chandrashekharji,

Thanks for your answer, tommorow is the deadline and I have almost

given up on this case, although I do not have any malice against the

lady and I understand her position well.

For some time you have spoken earlier on the different kinds of

karmas and whether remedies can be performed or not. Can you pls

create and exhaustive article on this with reasoning and

categorisation of the karmas and present it to us or maybe we can

upload it on the files section for other students like me and others

to benefit out of it.

I know you are very busy but if you can do this in the near future it

would be a great reference point for many.

Best wishes to you.

Humbly

Sunil John

Mumbai

varahamihira , " Chandrashekhar Sharma "

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Sunil,

> One has to suffer the results of one's actions, good or bad. No

amount of

> finding a more suitable time to do certain things is likely to

remove or

> lessen the effects of Karma, specially that over one has control

oneself as

> in this case.Thes acts are Drudhamula karmas and even remedies do

not wash

> them away. This is my personal opinion and others might have

different

> opinion.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> ----

>

> varahamihira

> Monday, August 25, 2003 08:15:35 PM

> varahamihira

> |Sri Varaha| To Abort or not to Abort - a case study

>

> Dear Learned Members,

>

> Pls find details of this woman who wants to abort her baby, on 28th

Aug 2003

> no amount of counselling has helped in reversing her decision. She

has

> passed the stage of two minds about it and is fixed now on her

decision,

> maybe thinking that it is in the best interests of everyone that

the child

> doesnt come in this world.

>

> Birth Details:

> 23rd May 1977, 21.10 , 151 E 50 26 S 33

>

> Accuracy of Time of birth: Mother's memory

>

> Characteristics:

> She is unmarried, doesn't have money to bring a new born in this

life,

> already single mom of a 4 yr old, too much of anger and obsesse

lady, doesnt

> work, lives on Govt pension, avoids sending her 4 yr old to day

care, hides

> behind her and uses her as her sounding board, mother is easily

depressed

> and too much of anger and involvement in sex. Although she desires

to

> improve her life but is unable to.

>

> Personal Comments

>

> Although one understands that abortion is a sin among most

religions but in

> such circumstances it is felt that a child doesnt come and face

more harsher

> realities and unpleasant upbringing.

>

> Plan to Abort

> She plans to abort on Thursday 28th Aug around 12.00 noon, is this

is a good

> time to do so or should the time of abortion be changed, to lessen

the bad

> karma - is there some remedy etc prescribed for abortion or time of

> abortion in our scriptures.

>

> Interestingly there is so much happening in heavens around this

date.

>

> I would request learned members to respond asap as this is an SOS.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

>

August 27, 2003

Dea Sunil,

Is this your new mail id? About the article, I have sent a tentative draft to Sanjayji and am in the process of refining it as asked by him. If and when it is posted I shall let you know. Do not dispair about the lady's decision. One should do all one can to help and let the almighty decide what has to happen.

Chandrashekhar.

suniljohn_2002 [suniljohn_2002]Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:03 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| To Abort or not to Abort - a case study (Chandrashekharji)Dear Chandrashekharji,Thanks for your answer, tommorow is the deadline and I have almost given up on this case, although I do not have any malice against the lady and I understand her position well.For some time you have spoken earlier on the different kinds of karmas and whether remedies can be performed or not. Can you pls create and exhaustive article on this with reasoning and categorisation of the karmas and present it to us or maybe we can upload it on the files section for other students like me and others to benefit out of it.I know you are very busy but if you can do this in the near future it would be a great reference point for many.Best wishes to you.HumblySunil JohnMumbaivarahamihira , "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Sunil,> One has to suffer the results of one's actions, good or bad. No amount of> finding a more suitable time to do certain things is likely to remove or> lessen the effects of Karma, specially that over one has control oneself as> in this case.Thes acts are Drudhamula karmas and even remedies do not wash> them away. This is my personal opinion and others might have different> opinion.> Chandrashekhar.> > ----> > varahamihira > Monday, August 25, 2003 08:15:35 PM> varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| To Abort or not to Abort - a case study> > Dear Learned Members,> > Pls find details of this woman who wants to abort her baby, on 28th Aug 2003> no amount of counselling has helped in reversing her decision. She has> passed the stage of two minds about it and is fixed now on her decision,> maybe thinking that it is in the best interests of everyone that the child> doesnt come in this world.> > Birth Details:> 23rd May 1977, 21.10 , 151 E 50 26 S 33> > Accuracy of Time of birth: Mother's memory> > Characteristics: > She is unmarried, doesn't have money to bring a new born in this life,> already single mom of a 4 yr old, too much of anger and obsesse lady, doesnt> work, lives on Govt pension, avoids sending her 4 yr old to day care, hides> behind her and uses her as her sounding board, mother is easily depressed> and too much of anger and involvement in sex. Although she desires to> improve her life but is unable to.> > Personal Comments> > Although one understands that abortion is a sin among most religions but in> such circumstances it is felt that a child doesnt come and face more harsher> realities and unpleasant upbringing.> > Plan to Abort> She plans to abort on Thursday 28th Aug around 12.00 noon, is this is a good> time to do so or should the time of abortion be changed, to lessen the bad> karma - is there some remedy etc prescribed for abortion or time of> abortion in our scriptures.> > Interestingly there is so much happening in heavens around this date.> > I would request learned members to respond asap as this is an SOS.> > Thanks in advance> > > Best wishes> > Sunil John> Mumbai> > > > >

August 28, 2003

Dear Chandrashekharji,

Thanks for letting me know on the status of the article and thanks

for keeping me in mind re that. Thanks for your advice, I am taking

it well.

sorry this is an old id, I maintain 12 ids , lycos one is in good

shape.

If you have the chart of the Govt Official can u pass it on to me

Sir, as i had doubts on the birth details, also should i look at 6th

house and Sun significations more in that.

Best wishes to you,

Sunil John

varahamihira , " Chandrashekhar Sharma "

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dea Sunil,

> Is this your new mail id? About the article, I have sent a

tentative draft

> to Sanjayji and am in the process of refining it as asked by him.

If and

> when it is posted I shall let you know. Do not dispair about the

lady's

> decision. One should do all one can to help and let the almighty

decide what

> has to happen.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> suniljohn_2002 [suniljohn_2002]

> Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:03 AM

> varahamihira

> Re: |Sri Varaha| To Abort or not to Abort - a case study

> (Chandrashekharji)

>

> Dear Chandrashekharji,

> Thanks for your answer, tommorow is the deadline and I have almost

> given up on this case, although I do not have any malice against

the

> lady and I understand her position well.

>

> For some time you have spoken earlier on the different kinds of

> karmas and whether remedies can be performed or not. Can you pls

> create and exhaustive article on this with reasoning and

> categorisation of the karmas and present it to us or maybe we can

> upload it on the files section for other students like me and

others

> to benefit out of it.

>

> I know you are very busy but if you can do this in the near

future it

> would be a great reference point for many.

>

> Best wishes to you.

>

> Humbly

>

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

>

> varahamihira , " Chandrashekhar Sharma "

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear Sunil,

> > One has to suffer the results of one's actions, good or bad. No

> amount of

> > finding a more suitable time to do certain things is likely to

> remove or

> > lessen the effects of Karma, specially that over one has control

> oneself as

> > in this case.Thes acts are Drudhamula karmas and even remedies

do

> not wash

> > them away. This is my personal opinion and others might have

> different

> > opinion.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > ----

> >

> > varahamihira

> > Monday, August 25, 2003 08:15:35 PM

> > varahamihira

> > |Sri Varaha| To Abort or not to Abort - a case study

> >

> > Dear Learned Members,

> >

> > Pls find details of this woman who wants to abort her baby, on

28th

> Aug 2003

> > no amount of counselling has helped in reversing her decision.

She

> has

> > passed the stage of two minds about it and is fixed now on her

> decision,

> > maybe thinking that it is in the best interests of everyone that

> the child

> > doesnt come in this world.

> >

> > Birth Details:

> > 23rd May 1977, 21.10 , 151 E 50 26 S 33

> >

> > Accuracy of Time of birth: Mother's memory

> >

> > Characteristics:

> > She is unmarried, doesn't have money to bring a new born in this

> life,

> > already single mom of a 4 yr old, too much of anger and obsesse

> lady, doesnt

> > work, lives on Govt pension, avoids sending her 4 yr old to day

> care, hides

> > behind her and uses her as her sounding board, mother is easily

> depressed

> > and too much of anger and involvement in sex. Although she

desires

> to

> > improve her life but is unable to.

> >

> > Personal Comments

> >

> > Although one understands that abortion is a sin among most

> religions but in

> > such circumstances it is felt that a child doesnt come and face

> more harsher

> > realities and unpleasant upbringing.

> >

> > Plan to Abort

> > She plans to abort on Thursday 28th Aug around 12.00 noon, is

this

> is a good

> > time to do so or should the time of abortion be changed, to

lessen

> the bad

> > karma - is there some remedy etc prescribed for abortion or

time of

> > abortion in our scriptures.

> >

> > Interestingly there is so much happening in heavens around this

> date.

> >

> > I would request learned members to respond asap as this is an

SOS.

> >

> > Thanks in advance

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Sunil John

> > Mumbai

> >

August 28, 2003

Dear Sunil,

I asked you about the id as I did not want to confuse you , my friend, with some body else having the same name id. The chart of the Govt. oficial under reference is attached. Effects on 12th house(Shayana sthana) 6th house(Shatrusthana) 2nd house (Kutumba sthana) and Mars as well as Venus should be analysed to reach a conclusion in regard to the matter in hand, besides the 7th and 8th house.

Chandrashekhar.

suniljohn_2002 [suniljohn_2002]Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:49 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| To Abort or not to Abort - a case study (Chandrashekharji)Dear Chandrashekharji,Thanks for letting me know on the status of the article and thanks for keeping me in mind re that. Thanks for your advice, I am taking it well.sorry this is an old id, I maintain 12 ids , lycos one is in good shape.If you have the chart of the Govt Official can u pass it on to me Sir, as i had doubts on the birth details, also should i look at 6th house and Sun significations more in that.Best wishes to you,Sunil John varahamihira , "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dea Sunil,> Is this your new mail id? About the article, I have sent a tentative draft> to Sanjayji and am in the process of refining it as asked by him. If and> when it is posted I shall let you know. Do not dispair about the lady's> decision. One should do all one can to help and let the almighty decide what> has to happen.> Chandrashekhar.> > suniljohn_2002 [suniljohn_2002]> Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:03 AM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| To Abort or not to Abort - a case study> (Chandrashekharji)> > > Dear Chandrashekharji,> Thanks for your answer, tommorow is the deadline and I have almost> given up on this case, although I do not have any malice against the> lady and I understand her position well.> > For some time you have spoken earlier on the different kinds of> karmas and whether remedies can be performed or not. Can you pls> create and exhaustive article on this with reasoning and> categorisation of the karmas and present it to us or maybe we can> upload it on the files section for other students like me and others> to benefit out of it.> > I know you are very busy but if you can do this in the near future it> would be a great reference point for many.> > Best wishes to you.> > Humbly> > Sunil John> Mumbai> > > varahamihira , "Chandrashekhar Sharma"> <boxdel> wrote:> > Dear Sunil,> > One has to suffer the results of one's actions, good or bad. No> amount of> > finding a more suitable time to do certain things is likely to> remove or> > lessen the effects of Karma, specially that over one has control> oneself as> > in this case.Thes acts are Drudhamula karmas and even remedies do> not wash> > them away. This is my personal opinion and others might have> different> > opinion.> > Chandrashekhar.> >> > ----> >> > varahamihira > > Monday, August 25, 2003 08:15:35 PM> > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| To Abort or not to Abort - a case study> >> > Dear Learned Members,> >> > Pls find details of this woman who wants to abort her baby, on 28th> Aug 2003> > no amount of counselling has helped in reversing her decision. She> has> > passed the stage of two minds about it and is fixed now on her> decision,> > maybe thinking that it is in the best interests of everyone that> the child> > doesnt come in this world.> >> > Birth Details:> > 23rd May 1977, 21.10 , 151 E 50 26 S 33> >> > Accuracy of Time of birth: Mother's memory> >> > Characteristics:> > She is unmarried, doesn't have money to bring a new born in this> life,> > already single mom of a 4 yr old, too much of anger and obsesse> lady, doesnt> > work, lives on Govt pension, avoids sending her 4 yr old to day> care, hides> > behind her and uses her as her sounding board, mother is easily> depressed> > and too much of anger and involvement in sex. Although she desires> to> > improve her life but is unable to.> >> > Personal Comments> >> > Although one understands that abortion is a sin among most> religions but in> > such circumstances it is felt that a child doesnt come and face> more harsher> > realities and unpleasant upbringing.> >> > Plan to Abort> > She plans to abort on Thursday 28th Aug around 12.00 noon, is this> is a good> > time to do so or should the time of abortion be changed, to lessen> the bad> > karma - is there some remedy etc prescribed for abortion or time of> > abortion in our scriptures.> >> > Interestingly there is so much happening in heavens around this> date.> >> > I would request learned members to respond asap as this is an SOS.> >> > Thanks in advance> >> >> > Best wishes> >> > Sunil John> > Mumbai> >> >> > > > > >