Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Sanjay, Third time writing this mail, something crashed... desparate.. another try: Primary argalä Paräsara: BPHS 33.3 caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä | tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3|| Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third houses respectively. QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä? Zoran: 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his life. 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita. 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)? Zoran: Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence.. 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the obstruction to the argalä in the 4th, Zoran: 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each argalä and bädhaka? 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house. 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc.. 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will may add to income and success Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5 nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù | tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4|| taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama | tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5|| Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house). QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination of argalä and obstruction? Zoran: Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala and virodha argala 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is this beneficial or what is its real import? Zoran: Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong.. 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why? Zoran: Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is correct.. 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä? Zoran: Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways.. Secondary Argalä Paräsara: BPHS 33.6 païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt | tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6|| The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde). QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä? Zoran: Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity.. 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu? Zoran: I think ketu only, always vakra ghati.. 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy? Zoran: 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living beings), enemies may destroy longevity Paräsara: BPHS 33.7 ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä | argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7|| QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one argalä sign or more than one argalä sign? Zoran: Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue upon your request Primary argalä Paräsara: BPHS 33.3 caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä | tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3|| Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third houses respectively. QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä? Zoran: 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his life. 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita. 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)? Zoran: Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence.. 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the obstruction to the argalä in the 4th, Zoran: 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each argalä and bädhaka? 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house. 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc.. 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will may add to income and success Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5 nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù | tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4|| taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama | tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5|| Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house). QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination of argalä and obstruction? Zoran: Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala and virodha argala 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is this beneficial or what is its real import? Zoran: Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong.. 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why? Zoran: Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is correct.. 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä? Zoran: Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways.. Secondary Argalä Paräsara: BPHS 33.6 païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt | tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6|| The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde). QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä? Zoran: Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity.. 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu? Zoran: I think ketu only, always vakra ghati.. 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy? Zoran: 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living beings), enemies may destroy longevity Paräsara: BPHS 33.7 ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä | argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7|| QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one argalä sign or more than one argalä sign? Zoran: Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue upon your request Primary argalä Paräsara: BPHS 33.3 caturthe ca dhane läbhe grahe jïeyä tadargalä | tadbädhakäù kramät kheöä vyomariñphatåtéyagäù || 3|| Translation: Planets or signs in the fourth, second and eleventh house from any planet or sign have argalä on it. The bädhaka (obstruction) for these argalä are the planets or signs in the tenth, twelfth and third houses respectively. QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 1. Why are the 4th , 2nd & 11th houses chosen for the primary argalä? Zoran: 2nd house indicates Shri Mahavishnu a real sustainer without whom nothing would exist, so by means of prana, and at the grosser level of food, finance etc, this house intervenes on the lagna or person and his life. 4th house is a house of Matru, who provides life and intervenes on our personality and sustainance. This house also rules sukha, faith and house which provides shelter for this body. 11th house rules desires and goals which intervenes on janma or birth which is motivated by desires as per the teachings of Bhagavad Gita. 2. Why does Paräsara use the word 'bädhaka' to explain the nature of the virodha argalä (obstruction to argalä)? Zoran: Badhakesha means Vighnesha or Ganesha, the one who removes the obstacles. So Ganesha is capable of removing any influence.. 3. Explain the reasons for the 10th, 12th & 3rd houses/planets being the obstruction to the argalä in the 4th, Zoran: 2nd and 11th houses respectively. What are the implications of each argalä and bädhaka? 10th house rules karma which may lead us to Patala or Swarga, The karma we perform will intervene upon the happiness or sukha. For example, papas may indicate bad karma, and even may destroy parents and a house. 12th house rules sins and rina, It is the house of expense, So the expense will annihilate cash, and poverty may deny a person from food. Past rina may destroy or distance a native from a family etc.. 3rd house indicates parakrama or ahimsa, which will intervene on the extent of gains and the type of goals. One's own courage and self will may add to income and success Paräsara: BPHS 33.4-5 nirbalä nyünasaìkhyä vä bädhakä naiva sammatäù | tåtéye vyädhikäù päpä yatra maitreya bädhakäù || 4|| taträpi cärgalä jïeyä viparétä dvijottama | tathäpi kheöabhävänäà phalamargalitaà viduù || 5|| Strengths are determined on the basis of numbers of planets in the argalä and the obstruction respectively. The obstruction is not great if the numbers are equal. However, malefic planets in the third house have a beneficial obstruction (on the eleventh house). QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 4. Explain the examination of argalä and obstruction. What are the other sources of strength for a sign? Can these be used for the determination of argalä and obstruction? Zoran: Atmakarak may increase the strength of a sign as well as greater number of grahas. Such signs will have stronger influence in terms of argala and virodha argala 5. Do malefic planets in the 2nd, 4th or 11th cause argalä? If so, is this beneficial or what is its real import? Zoran: Papas argala cannot be beneficial. Malefics in 2nd will deprive of food and cash and live this body in want. Papas in 4th would cause pain to mother and lack of faith and comforts. Even proper medicines will not be there. For example even mangal which is bhoomi putra would terrible damage mother and give house on bad locations, what else to speak? Malefics in 11th are good for income but not in evolutionary manner. Tanou Tana Danda Hara, the house of punishment... 11th house and ekadashi tithi?! Shadripu influence is too strong.. 6. In Paräsara: BPHS 33.4 'vyädhikäù' is the word used by Santanam whereas tryadhikä is used by G.C.Sharma to define the formation of argalä in the third house by malefic planets. Which is correct and why? Zoran: Although I am in the process of learning Sanskrit, I think tryadhika is correct.. 7. The third house causes bädhaka (obstruction) to the argalä in the 11th house, yet the malefic planets in the 3rd house cause a beneficial argalä. What does this mean in terms of real life expectations of events? What exactly is meant by Viparéta argalä? Zoran: Vipareta argala is the reverse argala. Three malefics in 3rd house will add to tremendous parakrama, a person would get what he/she wants.. No other graham in 11th can redirect or stop this.. Even if benefics are in 11th a strong parakarama may give gains in malefic ways.. Secondary Argalä Paräsara: BPHS 33.6 païcamaà cärgalästhänaà navamaà tadvirodhakåt | tamograhabhavä sä ca vyatyayäj jïäyate dvija || 6|| The secondary argalä is caused by planets/sign in the fifth house and this is obstructed (virodha) by the planets/sign in the ninth house. The nodes 'tamo-graha' also have the argalä and obstruction of the planets/signs in the same manner but are reckoned in the reverse i.e. the 2nd, 4th and 11th etc houses are to counted in the reverse (anti-zodiacal) for them 9since they are always retrograde). QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 8. Which other houses (in addition to the fifth house) are also reckoned for the secondary argalä and what is the basis for this? Which houses are seen for the obstruction to these secondary argalä? Zoran: Secondary argal is seen in 9th and 8th houses. Ninth is dharma, guiding principles for any bhava, sadharmi, or sharer of the same tatwa ..8th house deals with longevity of any house (counted from it of course).. Virodha argala houses are 5th which indicates dhi shakti or its loss, and 6th house of enemies or shardipus which may destroy longevity.. 9. Why are the argalä for the nodes reckoned in the reverse? Is this applicable (1) only to Ketu or (2) both the nodes or (3) all the tamo-graha - Mars, Saturn, Rähu & Ketu? Zoran: I think ketu only, always vakra ghati.. 10. Why should the ninth house cause virodha argalä to the fifth house? Discuss the implications of this and other virodha argalä. Does the virodha argalä of the 6th house reduce longevity? If so would this imply reduction in longevity due to çaòripu (six weaknesses) or enemy? Zoran: 5th house rules dhi shakti and mantra, if any papa is placed in 9th house,it will damage dharma, and how can a person have dhi shakti or practice mantra? I see no difference between enemies and shad ripu,. Who can be a worse enemy than our own ripus.. In terms of grahas,(living beings), enemies may destroy longevity Paräsara: BPHS 33.7 ekagrahä kaniñöhä sä dvigrahä madhyamä småtä | argalä dvyadhikotpannä munibhiù kathitottamä || 7|| QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION 11. Does the number of planets indicate the strength of the argalä? If kaniñöhä (little finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of one planet and madhyamä (middle finger) is the nature/strength of the argalä of two planets, then what would you understand if anämika (ring finger), tarjani (index finger) & aëguñöhäna (thumb) are used? In such a case, what is the strength of control? Can this imply planets in only one argalä sign or more than one argalä sign? Zoran: Yes, both number of planets and their strength such as dignity determine the strength of argala. The controller is Akash Tatwa, Guru and Ketu grahas and Atmakaraka, absolutely the strongest.. The more grahas the stronger argala. If argala over one house comes from many argala signs the house is more important.. This is for the time being.. Will continue upon your request -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotisha Guru at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre India ahimsa www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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