Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - - Narasimha

September 26, 2003

Dear Narasimha,

For over a year I have been using Kunda in rasi and PPL in Navamsa to check

on birth time.

I have an older paper written by a certain known individual which states

that PPL in the navamsa should be in the 7th or trines from NAVAMSA LAGNA.

Is this completely wrong then ?

Warm regards

Jay Weiss

-

" pvr108 " <pvr

Friday, September 26, 2003 12:03 AM

|Sri Varaha| Re: Pranapada Lagna and Rectification

> Dear Sudharsan,

>

> Use Moon's position in navamsa and pranapada lagna's position in

> navamsa. They should be in mutual trines. For example, I have Moon in

> Gemini navamsa and PPL in Taurus rasi, Aquarius navamsa.

>

> If we take PPL in rasi and not navamsa, then there is a 6-min window

> of time in which human beings can be born and then a 20-minute window

> in which human beings cannot be born and again a 6-minute window in

> which human beings can be born. It is not logical.

>

> BTW, interestingly I was working with my pranapada lagna just a while

> ago! Sanjay ji told me to make my Vimsottari dasa class on Oct 4-5

> very exhaustive and cover everything related to Vimsottari. He told

> me to give atleast one example of interpreting upto deha-antardasa

> (six levels). Interpretation of one of those six levels needs

> pranapada lagna. Sanjay ji mentioned it and asked me to cover it. So

> I took a break from work and rectified my chart as well as my dasa,

> to explain some known events (and eventful days) upto six levels.

> Just when I was finished, I saw your mail!

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Dear Gurus and Members,

> >

> > During rectification of time, I want to use the pranapada lagna in

>

> trines to the Moons navamsa position dictum.My doubt is are we

>

> supposed to use the Pranapada lagnas Rasi position in relation to the

>

> moon in D-9 OR is it the pranapada lagnas Navamsa position should be

>

> in a trine from Moons Navamsa position? Thanks for the help.

> >

> > Hare Krishna

> >

> > Sudharsan

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

September 26, 2003

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Jay,

What I was taught is that PPL for human beings should be in trines

or 7th from *Moon* in navamsa. Moon signifies human beings, who have

an active mind.

If Moon is not in a trine/7th from PPL in navamsa and only Sun is,

it can be a bird. And so on.

The planets show various animal types and not lagna.

BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding kunda.

At your service,

Narasimha

> Dear Narasimha,

> For over a year I have been using Kunda in rasi and PPL in Navamsa

to check

> on birth time.

> I have an older paper written by a certain known individual which

states

> that PPL in the navamsa should be in the 7th or trines from

NAVAMSA LAGNA.

> Is this completely wrong then ?

>

> Warm regards

> Jay Weiss

September 26, 2003

Dear Narasimha,

> BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding kunda.

Coming from you, this statement makes me think that I may have done

something wrong:

I check to see if kunda in rasi is in trine/7th to lagna (from the same

paper) - is this also wrong ?

Would you write your (very appreciated!) opinion please ?

Warm regards

/Jay Weiss

-

" pvr108 " <pvr

Friday, September 26, 2003 7:15 AM

|Sri Varaha| Re: Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

> Om Gurave Namah

> Dear Jay,

>

> What I was taught is that PPL for human beings should be in trines

> or 7th from *Moon* in navamsa. Moon signifies human beings, who have

> an active mind.

>

> If Moon is not in a trine/7th from PPL in navamsa and only Sun is,

> it can be a bird. And so on.

>

> The planets show various animal types and not lagna.

>

> BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding kunda.

>

> At your service,

> Narasimha

>

> > Dear Narasimha,

> > For over a year I have been using Kunda in rasi and PPL in Navamsa

> to check

> > on birth time.

> > I have an older paper written by a certain known individual which

> states

> > that PPL in the navamsa should be in the 7th or trines from

> NAVAMSA LAGNA.

> > Is this completely wrong then ?

> >

> > Warm regards

> > Jay Weiss

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

September 27, 2003

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Jay,

What Sanjay ji taught in CoVA is that Kunda should be in a nakshatra

lorded by the lord of Moon's nakshatra. For example, if Moon is in

Rohini, Kunda should be in Rohini or Hasta or Sravanam.

However, this means that birth can happen in a 0.66 minute window

and no birth is possible in a 5.27 minute window and birth can

happen again in a 0.66 minute window following it. This practically

makes little sense. One may even say that it is absurd. There are

cases of births happening 2 minutes apart. That is not possible with

this theory.

I personally do not use Kunda. In fact, in the charts I have micro-

rectified confidently, I pay attention to various vargas and various

events (sometimes, luckily we find a divisional lagna close to a

sign border in an annual chart, even though it may not be so in the

natal chart! That helps). I ignore Kunda. Pranapada lagna rule

*must* work, but Sanjay said the other day that it needs fine-

tuning. We need to refine the sunrise definition and that impacts

pranapada lagna. I saw Sanjay rectifying charts leaving pranapada

alone. If I am making a misrepresentation, I may be corrected.

Hope this helps.

At your service,

Narasimha

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> > BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding kunda.

>

> Coming from you, this statement makes me think that I may have done

> something wrong:

> I check to see if kunda in rasi is in trine/7th to lagna (from the

same

> paper) - is this also wrong ?

> Would you write your (very appreciated!) opinion please ?

>

> Warm regards

> /Jay Weiss

September 27, 2003

Dear Narasimha,

Thanks for your explanation which is fully accepted.

Warm regards

Jay Weiss

-

" pvr108 " <pvr

Saturday, September 27, 2003 4:30 AM

|Sri Varaha| Re: Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

> Om Gurave Namah

> Dear Jay,

>

> What Sanjay ji taught in CoVA is that Kunda should be in a nakshatra

> lorded by the lord of Moon's nakshatra. For example, if Moon is in

> Rohini, Kunda should be in Rohini or Hasta or Sravanam.

>

> However, this means that birth can happen in a 0.66 minute window

> and no birth is possible in a 5.27 minute window and birth can

> happen again in a 0.66 minute window following it. This practically

> makes little sense. One may even say that it is absurd. There are

> cases of births happening 2 minutes apart. That is not possible with

> this theory.

>

> I personally do not use Kunda. In fact, in the charts I have micro-

> rectified confidently, I pay attention to various vargas and various

> events (sometimes, luckily we find a divisional lagna close to a

> sign border in an annual chart, even though it may not be so in the

> natal chart! That helps). I ignore Kunda. Pranapada lagna rule

> *must* work, but Sanjay said the other day that it needs fine-

> tuning. We need to refine the sunrise definition and that impacts

> pranapada lagna. I saw Sanjay rectifying charts leaving pranapada

> alone. If I am making a misrepresentation, I may be corrected.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> At your service,

> Narasimha

>

> > Dear Narasimha,

> >

> > > BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding kunda.

> >

> > Coming from you, this statement makes me think that I may have done

> > something wrong:

> > I check to see if kunda in rasi is in trine/7th to lagna (from the

> same

> > paper) - is this also wrong ?

> > Would you write your (very appreciated!) opinion please ?

> >

> > Warm regards

> > /Jay Weiss

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

September 27, 2003

` nmae naray[ay

om namo näräyaëäya

Dear Jay,

According to me if you use all the 3 methods ie.,Kunda,Pranapada method and Navamsha Dwadashmasha methods,you can arrive at exact events.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.pvr108 <pvr wrote:

Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,What Sanjay ji taught in CoVA is that Kunda should be in a nakshatra lorded by the lord of Moon's nakshatra. For example, if Moon is in Rohini, Kunda should be in Rohini or Hasta or Sravanam.However, this means that birth can happen in a 0.66 minute window and no birth is possible in a 5.27 minute window and birth can happen again in a 0.66 minute window following it. This practically makes little sense. One may even say that it is absurd. There are cases of births happening 2 minutes apart. That is not possible with this theory.I personally do not use Kunda. In fact, in the charts I have micro-rectified confidently, I pay attention to various vargas and various events (sometimes, luckily we find a divisional lagna close to a sign border in an annual chart, even though it may not be so in

the natal chart! That helps). I ignore Kunda. Pranapada lagna rule *must* work, but Sanjay said the other day that it needs fine-tuning. We need to refine the sunrise definition and that impacts pranapada lagna. I saw Sanjay rectifying charts leaving pranapada alone. If I am making a misrepresentation, I may be corrected.Hope this helps.At your service,Narasimha> Dear Narasimha,> > > BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding kunda.> > Coming from you, this statement makes me think that I may have done> something wrong:> I check to see if kunda in rasi is in trine/7th to lagna (from the same> paper) - is this also wrong ?> Would you write your (very appreciated!) opinion please ?> > Warm regards> /Jay Weiss|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

September 27, 2003

Dear Ramadas Rao,

Yes I agree.

The time frame window will get narrower with each step, still we'll also need the events and divisions to fit-in too.

Warm Regards

/Jay Weiss

-

Ramadas Rao

varahamihira

Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:19 PM

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

` nmae naray[ay

om namo näräyaëäya

Dear Jay,

According to me if you use all the 3 methods ie.,Kunda,Pranapada method and Navamsha Dwadashmasha methods,you can arrive at exact events.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.pvr108 <pvr wrote:

Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,What Sanjay ji taught in CoVA is that Kunda should be in a nakshatra lorded by the lord of Moon's nakshatra. For example, if Moon is in Rohini, Kunda should be in Rohini or Hasta or Sravanam.However, this means that birth can happen in a 0.66 minute window and no birth is possible in a 5.27 minute window and birth can happen again in a 0.66 minute window following it. This practically makes little sense. One may even say that it is absurd. There are cases of births happening 2 minutes apart. That is not possible with this theory.I personally do not use Kunda. In fact, in the charts I have micro-rectified confidently, I pay attention to various vargas and various events (sometimes, luckily we find a divisional lagna close to a sign border in an annual chart, even though it may not be so in the natal chart! That helps). I ignore Kunda. Pranapada lagna rule *must* work, but Sanjay said the other day that it needs fine-tuning. We need to refine the sunrise definition and that impacts pranapada lagna. I saw Sanjay rectifying charts leaving pranapada alone. If I am making a misrepresentation, I may be corrected.Hope this helps.At your service,Narasimha> Dear Narasimha,> > > BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding kunda.> > Coming from you, this statement makes me think that I may have done> something wrong:> I check to see if kunda in rasi is in trine/7th to lagna (from the same> paper) - is this also wrong ?> Would you write your (very appreciated!) opinion please ?> > Warm regards> /Jay Weiss|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamih ira

September 29, 2003

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Ramadas,

Can you please elaborate more on the Navamsa Dwadashamsa methods?

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Ramadas Rao

[ramadasrao]

Sunday, September 28, 2003

5:20 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

` nmae naray[ay

om namo näräyaëäya

Dear Jay,

According to me if you use all the

3 methods ie.,Kunda,Pranapada method and Navamsha Dwadashmasha methods,you can

arrive at exact events.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother

Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.

pvr108

<pvr wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Jay,

What Sanjay ji taught in CoVA is that Kunda should

be in a nakshatra

lorded by the lord of Moon's nakshatra. For

example, if Moon is in

Rohini, Kunda should be in Rohini or Hasta or

Sravanam.

However, this means that birth can happen in a

0.66 minute window

and no birth is possible in a 5.27 minute window

and birth can

happen again in a 0.66 minute window following it.

This practically

makes little sense. One may even say that it is

absurd. There are

cases of births happening 2 minutes apart. That is

not possible with

this theory.

I personally do not use Kunda. In fact, in the

charts I have micro-

rectified confidently, I pay attention to various

vargas and various

events (sometimes, luckily we find a divisional

lagna close to a

sign border in an annual chart, even though it may

not be so in the

natal chart! That helps). I ignore Kunda.

Pranapada lagna rule

*must* work, but Sanjay said the other day that it

needs fine-

tuning. We need to refine the sunrise definition

and that impacts

pranapada lagna. I saw Sanjay rectifying charts

leaving pranapada

alone. If I am making a misrepresentation, I may

be corrected.

Hope this helps.

At your service,

Narasimha

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> > BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding

kunda.

>

> Coming from you, this statement makes me

think that I may have done

> something wrong:

> I check to see if kunda in rasi is in

trine/7th to lagna (from the

same

> paper) - is this also wrong ?

> Would you write your (very appreciated!)

opinion please ?

>

> Warm regards

> /Jay Weiss

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September 30, 2003

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Dear Sarajit,

The Navamsha -Dwadashamsha method of identifying male or female birth is given in Prashna Margam.But I will try to explain you ina simple way.

Each sign is divided into 9 Navamshas of 3 deg,20min. ( 200 minutes ) each.Now if each Navamsha is divided into 12 equal parts of 16 min.40 secs.,then we get this Navamsha- Dwadashamsha.So in odd signs ie., Mesha,Mithuna,Simha,Tula,Dhanu and Kumbha Navamsha Dwadashamsha fall in male signs and in even signs like vrishabha,Karka,Kanya,Vrishcika,Makara ( Here Meena Rasi is considered male one ) Navamsha Dwadashamsha fall in female signs.Now each Navamsha-Dwadashamsha takes about 1 minute and 6 secs.to rise.So we can try to change the time so as to get wether male or female birth.But in each Navamsha we get about 6 sets of male Navamsha-Dwadashamsha and 6 sets of female navamsha-Dwadashamsha.So we have to consider this only after we rectify by Kunda and Pranapada method.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.

Sarajit Poddar <sarajit wrote:

|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas,

Can you please elaborate more on the Navamsa Dwadashamsa methods?

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] Sunday, September 28, 2003 5:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

` nmae naray[ay

om namo näräyaëäya

Dear Jay,

According to me if you use all the 3 methods ie.,Kunda,Pranapada method and Navamsha Dwadashmasha methods,you can arrive at exact events.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.pvr108 <pvr wrote:

Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,What Sanjay ji taught in CoVA is that Kunda should be in a nakshatra lorded by the lord of Moon's nakshatra. For example, if Moon is in Rohini, Kunda should be in Rohini or Hasta or Sravanam.However, this means that birth can happen in a 0.66 minute window and no birth is possible in a 5.27 minute window and birth can happen again in a 0.66 minute window following it. This practically makes

little sense. One may even say that it is absurd. There are cases of births happening 2 minutes apart. That is not possible with this theory.I personally do not use Kunda. In fact, in the charts I have micro-rectified confidently, I pay attention to various vargas and various events (sometimes, luckily we find a divisional lagna close to a sign border in an annual chart, even though it may not be so in the natal chart! That helps). I ignore Kunda. Pranapada lagna rule *must* work, but Sanjay said the other day that it needs fine-tuning. We need to refine the sunrise definition and

that impacts pranapada lagna. I saw Sanjay rectifying charts leaving pranapada alone. If I am making a misrepresentation, I may be corrected.Hope this helps.At your service,Narasimha> Dear Narasimha,> > > BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding kunda.> > Coming from you, this statement makes me think that I may have done> something wrong:> I check to see if kunda in rasi is in trine/7th to lagna (from the

same> paper) - is this also wrong ?> Would you write your (very appreciated!) opinion please ?> > Warm regards> /Jay Weiss|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

October 1, 2003

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Ramadas,

Thanks you for explaining the method. Just

three questions â€“

Can you please give me the reference sloka

for this method from Prasna Margam

How to calculate the Navamsa Dwadasamsa Varga

Do we apply the exceptions of Aquarius, Pisces, Gemini and Cancer, which

show birth just opposite to their oddity? For example Pisces shows male

and Aquarius shows female birth in Saptamasa.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Ramadas Rao

[ramadasrao]

Wednesday, October 01, 2003

3:39 AM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

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Dear Sarajit,

The Navamsha -Dwadashamsha method

of identifying male or female birth is given in Prashna Margam.But I will try

to explain you ina simple way.

Each sign is divided into 9

Navamshas of 3 deg,20min. ( 200 minutes ) each.Now if each Navamsha is divided

into 12 equal parts of 16 min.40 secs.,then we get this Navamsha-

Dwadashamsha.So in odd signs ie., Mesha,Mithuna,Simha,Tula,Dhanu and Kumbha

Navamsha Dwadashamsha fall in male signs and in even signs like

vrishabha,Karka,Kanya,Vrishcika,Makara ( Here Meena Rasi is considered male one

) Navamsha Dwadashamsha fall in female signs.Now each Navamsha-Dwadashamsha

takes about 1 minute and 6 secs.to rise.So we can try to change the time so as

to get wether male or female birth.But in each Navamsha we get about 6 sets of

male Navamsha-Dwadashamsha and 6 sets of female navamsha-Dwadashamsha.So we

have to consider this only after we rectify by Kunda and Pranapada method.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother

Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.

Sarajit Poddar <sarajit

wrote:

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Ramadas,

Can you please elaborate

more on the Navamsa Dwadashamsa methods?

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Ramadas Rao

[ramadasrao]

Sunday, September 28, 2003

5:20 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

` nmae naray[ay

om namo nÃ¤rÃ¤yaÃ«Ã¤ya

Dear Jay,

According to me if you use all the

3 methods ie.,Kunda,Pranapada method and Navamsha Dwadashmasha methods,you can

arrive at exact events.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother

Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.

pvr108

<pvr wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Jay,

What Sanjay ji taught in CoVA is that Kunda should

be in a nakshatra

lorded by the lord of Moon's nakshatra. For

example, if Moon is in

Rohini, Kunda should be in Rohini or Hasta or

Sravanam.

However, this means that birth can happen in a

0.66 minute window

and no birth is possible in a 5.27 minute window

and birth can

happen again in a 0.66 minute window following it.

This practically

makes little sense. One may even say that it is

absurd. There are

cases of births happening 2 minutes apart. That is

not possible with

this theory.

I personally do not use Kunda. In fact, in the

charts I have micro-

rectified confidently, I pay attention to various

vargas and various

events (sometimes, luckily we find a divisional

lagna close to a

sign border in an annual chart, even though it may

not be so in the

natal chart! That helps). I ignore Kunda.

Pranapada lagna rule

*must* work, but Sanjay said the other day that it

needs fine-

tuning. We need to refine the sunrise definition

and that impacts

pranapada lagna. I saw Sanjay rectifying charts

leaving pranapada

alone. If I am making a misrepresentation, I may

be corrected.

Hope this helps.

At your service,

Narasimha

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> > BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding

kunda.

>

> Coming from you, this statement makes me

think that I may have done

> something wrong:

> I check to see if kunda in rasi is in

trine/7th to lagna (from the

same

> paper) - is this also wrong ?

> Would you write your (very appreciated!)

opinion please ?

>

> Warm regards

> /Jay Weiss

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October 9, 2003

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Dear Sarajit,

I am sorry that I could not reply you soon.

1) The Navamsha -Dwadashamsha method of finding the gender from a Chart is given is Prashnaanusthana Paddhati, a rare Kerala Classic and my Jyotish Guru who studied Jyotish in Kerala has given me this method.By mistake I wrote you in previous mail that this method is given in Prashna Margam.

2) Now how to calculate Navamsha- Dwadashamsha of a chart ?

In my last mail,I told you that each Navamsha of 3 deg.20 Min.will be divided into 16 Min.40 Secs.Now let me explain you with an example.Let us take a longitude of Makara 16 Deg.35Min.33.82 Secs. Its Navamsha falles in Vrishabha Rasi.So now we know that this Navamsha lies between 13 Deg.20Min. and 16 Deg.40 Min.So let us start from Vrishabha Rasi with 16 Min.40 Secs.Then continue with each Rasi with 16 Mins.40 Secs. till we reach 16 Deg.35 Min.33.82 Sec. and this comes in the last Rasi of Mesha between 16 Deg.23 Min.20 Sec. and 16 Deg.40 Min.So Mesha is Navamsha-Dwadashamsha of Makara Lagna 16 Deg.35 Min.33.82 Sec.So the native will be a Male.This longitude belongs to mine for your information.So follow this method in each Lagna Navamsha.Start from the Navamsha itself and continue till we reach the exact longitude of the Rasi we required and we get the result.

3) Now as I wrote you early Odd Rasis indicate male births and Even Rasis indicate female births.The only exception in this case will be Meena Rasi which can also be considered as Male birth only if Kunda and Pranapada method rectification is confirmed.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.Sarajit Poddar <sarajit wrote:

|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas,

Thanks you for explaining the method. Just three questions â€“

Can you please give me the reference sloka for this method from Prasna Margam

How to calculate the Navamsa Dwadasamsa Varga

Do we apply the exceptions of Aquarius, Pisces, Gemini and Cancer, which show birth just opposite to their oddity? For example Pisces shows male and Aquarius shows female birth in Saptamasa.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:39 AMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

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tÃšae ÃŠigR> Ã caedyat!.

tanno durgiÃ¹ pracodayÃ¤t||

Dear Sarajit,

The Navamsha -Dwadashamsha method of identifying male or female birth is given in Prashna Margam.But I will try to explain you ina simple way.

Each sign is divided into 9 Navamshas of 3 deg,20min. ( 200 minutes ) each.Now if each Navamsha is divided into 12 equal parts of 16 min.40 secs.,then we get this Navamsha- Dwadashamsha.So in odd signs ie., Mesha,Mithuna,Simha,Tula,Dhanu and Kumbha Navamsha Dwadashamsha fall in male signs and in even signs like vrishabha,Karka,Kanya,Vrishcika,Makara ( Here Meena Rasi is considered male one ) Navamsha Dwadashamsha fall in female signs.Now each Navamsha-Dwadashamsha takes about 1 minute and 6 secs.to rise.So we can try to change the time so as to get wether male or female birth.But in each Navamsha we get about 6 sets of male Navamsha-Dwadashamsha and 6 sets of female navamsha-Dwadashamsha.So we have to consider this only after we rectify by Kunda and Pranapada method.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.

Sarajit Poddar <sarajit wrote:

|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Ramadas,

Can you please elaborate more on the Navamsa Dwadashamsa methods?

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] Sunday, September 28, 2003 5:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

` nmae naray[ay

om namo nÃ¤rÃ¤yaÃ«Ã¤ya

Dear Jay,

According to me if you use all the 3 methods ie.,Kunda,Pranapada method and Navamsha Dwadashmasha methods,you can arrive at exact events.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.pvr108 <pvr wrote:

Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,What Sanjay ji taught in CoVA is that Kunda should be in a nakshatra lorded by the lord of Moon's nakshatra. For example, if Moon is in Rohini, Kunda should be in Rohini or Hasta or Sravanam.However, this means that birth can happen in a 0.66 minute window and no birth is possible in a 5.27 minute window and birth can happen again in a 0.66 minute window following it. This practically makes

little sense. One may even say that it is absurd. There are cases of births happening 2 minutes apart. That is not possible with this theory.I personally do not use Kunda. In fact, in the charts I have micro-rectified confidently, I pay attention to various vargas and various events (sometimes, luckily we find a divisional lagna close to a sign border in an annual chart, even though it may not be so in the natal chart! That helps). I ignore Kunda. Pranapada lagna rule *must* work, but Sanjay said the other day that it needs fine-tuning. We need to refine the sunrise definition and

that impacts pranapada lagna. I saw Sanjay rectifying charts leaving pranapada alone. If I am making a misrepresentation, I may be corrected.Hope this helps.At your service,Narasimha> Dear Narasimha,> > > BTW, I have a mixed opinion regarding kunda.> > Coming from you, this statement makes me think that I may have done> something wrong:> I check to see if kunda in rasi is in trine/7th to lagna (from the

same> paper) - is this also wrong ?> Would you write your (very appreciated!) opinion please ?> > Warm regards> /Jay Weiss|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

October 11, 2003

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Ramadas, Namaste

Thank you for sharing this knowledge

taught by your guru. Let me however, try it in various

horoscopes, before I get back to you on the same with further queries. I hope

you would not mind.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Ramadas Rao

[ramadasrao]

Friday, October 10, 2003

5:01 AM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Pranapada Lagna and Rectification - -> Narasimha

` nmae naray[ay

om namo nÃ¤rÃ¤yaÃ«Ã¤ya

Dear Sarajit,

I am sorry that I could not reply

you soon.

1) The Navamsha -Dwadashamsha

method of finding the gender from a Chart is given is Prashnaanusthana

Paddhati, a rare Kerala Classic and my Jyotish Guru who studied Jyotish in

Kerala has given me this method.By mistake I wrote you in previous mail

that this method is given in Prashna Margam.

2) Now how to calculate Navamsha-

Dwadashamsha of a chart ?

In my last mail,I told you that

each Navamsha of 3 deg.20 Min.will be divided into 16 Min.40 Secs.Now let me

explain you with an example.Let us take a longitude of Makara 16

Deg.35Min.33.82 Secs. Its Navamsha falles in Vrishabha Rasi.So now we know that

this Navamsha lies between 13 Deg.20Min. and 16 Deg.40 Min.So let us start from

Vrishabha Rasi with 16 Min.40 Secs.Then continue with each Rasi with 16 Mins.40

Secs. till we reach 16 Deg.35 Min.33.82 Sec. and this comes in the last Rasi of

Mesha between 16 Deg.23 Min.20 Sec. and 16 Deg.40 Min.So Mesha is

Navamsha-Dwadashamsha of Makara Lagna 16 Deg.35 Min.33.82 Sec.So the native

will be a Male.This longitude belongs to mine for your information.So follow

this method in each Lagna Navamsha.Start from the Navamsha itself and continue

till we reach the exact longitude of the Rasi we required and we get the

result.

3) Now as I wrote you early Odd

Rasis indicate male births and Even Rasis indicate female births.The only

exception in this case will be Meena Rasi which can also be considered as Male

birth only if Kunda and Pranapada method rectification is confirmed.

I hope this helps you.

With Sashtaanga Namana to Mother

Bhuvaneshwari,

Ramadas Rao.

Sarajit Poddar

<sarajit wrote:

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Ramadas,

Thanks you for explaining

the method. Just three questions Ã¢â‚¬â€œ

1. Can you please give me the reference sloka for

this method from Prasna Margam

2. How to calculate the Navamsa Dwadasamsa Varga

3. Do we apply the exceptions of Aquarius, Pisces,

Gemini and Cancer, which show birth just opposite to their oddity? For example

Pisces shows male and Aquarius shows female birth in Saptamasa.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Ramadas Rao

[ramadasrao]

Wednesday, October 01, 2003

3:39 AM

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