Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Dear Sarajit Ji, Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following is the reason:- The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun. By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc., Regards Raghunadha Rao varahamihira , " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajit@s...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Sureshbabu, > > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and the > not the planet ruling it? > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > > > Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question-- > > Shivaaya Namah! > > Dear Mofie, > > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. If > your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is > SomaNatha or if it is Libra then the Jyotirlinga form will be that of > Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), as > Venus exalts in that sign > > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted > in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the > jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries > hence Rameshwara for Aries etc.... > > Hope this helps. > > Best Regards, > -Suresh. > > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...> > wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's > > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why is > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 jyotirlinga > for > > each 12 rasi > > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is chosen > from > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's. > > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the > Dasamsa > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena rasi > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the jyotirlinga > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? Should > the > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Hare Krsna, > > Mofie Augustine > > > > vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be > > handy to most. > > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. When > > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens to it > > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah does not > > necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, you > > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining of > > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am > > correcting the mantras for your reference. > > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoRaameswaraaya > > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya > > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoBhimashankaraaya > > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya > NamoMallikaarjunaaya > > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya NamaOmkaareswaraaya > > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without sandhi/joining) > > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya > > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya NamahKaaleswaraaya > > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoNaageswaraaya > > Ketu Viswanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamoViswanaathaaya > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Rao, You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, but also the karaka of the 5th for power and authority. However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and not the 5th lord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for career related matters? Any take on this? Best Wishes Sarajit Rao Nemani [raon1008] Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. Dear Sarajit Ji, Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following is the reason:- The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun. By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc., Regards Raghunadha Rao varahamihira , " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajit@s...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Sureshbabu, > > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and the > not the planet ruling it? > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > > > Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question-- > > Shivaaya Namah! > > Dear Mofie, > > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. If > your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is > SomaNatha or if it is Libra then the Jyotirlinga form will be that of > Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), as > Venus exalts in that sign > > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted > in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the > jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries > hence Rameshwara for Aries etc.... > > Hope this helps. > > Best Regards, > -Suresh. > > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...> > wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's > > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why is > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 jyotirlinga > for > > each 12 rasi > > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is chosen > from > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's. > > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the > Dasamsa > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena rasi > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the jyotirlinga > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? Should > the > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Hare Krsna, > > Mofie Augustine > > > > vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be > > handy to most. > > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. When > > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens to it > > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah does not > > necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, you > > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining of > > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am > > correcting the mantras for your reference. > > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoRaameswaraaya > > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya > > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoBhimashankaraaya > > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya > NamoMallikaarjunaaya > > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya NamaOmkaareswaraaya > > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without sandhi/joining) > > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya > > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya NamahKaaleswaraaya > > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoNaageswaraaya > > Ketu Viswanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamoViswanaathaaya > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Jaya Jagannath Dear List In matters of worship it is very imporatant to bear in mind that the signs describe only the environment or the place of the deity while the lord ( i.e a planet ) shows someone who is animate and therefore has life. We pray a deity after infusing life into a deity ( called Prana-Pratishtha ). Hence a lord or deity is symbolised only by a planet and not a sign. Hope this clarifies the issue. Best wishes Shiv Pujan Sarajit Poddar [sarajit]Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:29 AMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Rao,You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, but alsothe karaka of the 5th for power and authority. However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and not the 5thlord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for careerrelated matters?Any take on this?Best WishesSarajitRao Nemani [raon1008] Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.Dear Sarajit Ji,Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following is the reason:-The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun.By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc.,RegardsRaghunadha Raovarahamihira , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Sureshbabu,> > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and the> not the planet ruling it?> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > > Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM> varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question--> > Shivaaya Namah!> > Dear Mofie,> > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. If> your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is> SomaNatha or if it is Libra then the Jyotirlinga form will be that of> Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), as> Venus exalts in that sign> > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted> in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the> jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries> hence Rameshwara for Aries etc....> > Hope this helps.> > Best Regards,> -Suresh.> > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...>> wrote:> > Om Krishna Guru> > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's> > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why is > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 jyotirlinga> for > > each 12 rasi> > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is chosen> from > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's.> > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the> Dasamsa > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena rasi > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the jyotirlinga > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? Should> the > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi?> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > Hare Krsna,> > Mofie Augustine> > > > vedic astrology , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"> > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > Namaste friends,> > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be> > handy to most.> > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. When> > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens to it> > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah does not> > necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, you> > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining of> > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am> > correcting the mantras for your reference.> > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoRaameswaraaya> > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya> > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoBhimashankaraaya> > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya> NamoMallikaarjunaaya> > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya NamaOmkaareswaraaya> > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without sandhi/joining)> > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya> > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya NamahKaaleswaraaya> > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoNaageswaraaya > > Ketu Viswanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamoViswanaathaaya> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> > > > |Om Tat Sat|> http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Shivaaya Namah! Dear ShivPujan ji, Namaste. Yes. Thanks for clarifying. It's the Lord's form that need to be prayed to, not the house. Sarajit also indicated the same thing. For those of us that didn't know, here is what Sarajit said... " It is the 5th lord. Jyotirlingam worship cause exaltation of the planet associated with it. We are more interested in the 5th lord than the planet in the 5th or who would get exalted in the 5th as it is in the best interest of the 5th lord to protect its houses and none else. This is true also with the karaka, who shall protect. The karaka is Sun, for career success et. al. and hence Jyoti (light) + Lingam (Shiva) and the form is decided by the lord of 5th. " Best Regards, -Suresh. varahamihira , Shiv Pujan <shivpujan@v...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannath > Dear List > In matters of worship it is very imporatant to bear in mind that the signs > describe only the environment or the place of the deity while the lord ( i.e > a planet ) shows someone who is animate and therefore has life. We pray a > deity after infusing life into a deity ( called Prana-Pratishtha ). Hence a > lord or deity is symbolised only by a planet and not a sign. Hope this > clarifies the issue. > Best wishes > Shiv Pujan > > Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:29 AM > varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Rao, > > You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, but also > the karaka of the 5th for power and authority. > > However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and not the 5th > lord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for career > related matters? > > Any take on this? > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > > > Rao Nemani [raon1008] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > Dear Sarajit Ji, > > Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji > mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following > is the reason:- > > The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the > Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun. > > By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the > negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of > Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc., > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > > > varahamihira , " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajit@s...> > wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Sureshbabu, > > > > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and > the > > not the planet ruling it? > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM > > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question-- > > > > Shivaaya Namah! > > > > Dear Mofie, > > > > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. > If > > your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is > > SomaNatha or if it is Libra then the Jyotirlinga form will be that > of > > Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), > as > > Venus exalts in that sign > > > > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted > > in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the > > jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries > > hence Rameshwara for Aries etc.... > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Best Regards, > > -Suresh. > > > > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...> > > wrote: > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's > > > > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why > is > > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 > jyotirlinga > > for > > > each 12 rasi > > > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is > chosen > > from > > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's. > > > > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the > > Dasamsa > > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena > rasi > > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the > jyotirlinga > > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? > Should > > the > > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi? > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Hare Krsna, > > > Mofie Augustine > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > > > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > > Namaste friends, > > > > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be > > > handy to most. > > > > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. > When > > > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens > to it > > > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah > does not > > > necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, > you > > > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining > of > > > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am > > > correcting the mantras for your reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoRaameswaraaya > > > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya > NamasSomanaathaaya > > > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoBhimashankaraaya > > > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya > > NamoMallikaarjunaaya > > > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamaOmkaareswaraaya > > > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without sandhi/joining) > > > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamasTryambakeswaraaya > > > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamahKaaleswaraaya > > > > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoNaageswaraaya > > > Ketu Viswanaatha Om NamasSivaaya > NamoViswanaathaaya > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > > http://www.varahamihira > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 dear shiva, say the 5H is Libra. so 5H point to Jyotirlinga `Kaleswara'. But 5L Ve points to Jyotirlinga `Trayambakesrara'. now..who is to be worshipped? as i know- sign should rule, but as per you should it be seen from the lord of the sign instead? regards jk - Shiv Pujan varahamihira Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:42 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. Jaya Jagannath Dear List In matters of worship it is very imporatant to bear in mind that the signs describe only the environment or the place of the deity while the lord ( i.e a planet ) shows someone who is animate and therefore has life. We pray a deity after infusing life into a deity ( called Prana-Pratishtha ). Hence a lord or deity is symbolised only by a planet and not a sign. Hope this clarifies the issue. Best wishes Shiv Pujan Sarajit Poddar [sarajit]Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:29 AMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Rao,You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, but alsothe karaka of the 5th for power and authority. However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and not the 5thlord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for careerrelated matters?Any take on this?Best WishesSarajitRao Nemani [raon1008] Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.Dear Sarajit Ji,Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following is the reason:-The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun.By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc.,RegardsRaghunadha Raovarahamihira , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Sureshbabu,> > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and the> not the planet ruling it?> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > > Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM> varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question--> > Shivaaya Namah!> > Dear Mofie,> > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. If> your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is> SomaNatha or if it is Libra then the Jyotirlinga form will be that of> Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), as> Venus exalts in that sign> > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted> in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the> jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries> hence Rameshwara for Aries etc....> > Hope this helps.> > Best Regards,> -Suresh.> > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...>> wrote:> > Om Krishna Guru> > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's> > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why is > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 jyotirlinga> for > > each 12 rasi> > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is chosen> from > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's.> > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the> Dasamsa > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena rasi > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the jyotirlinga > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? Should> the > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi?> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > Hare Krsna,> > Mofie Augustine> > > > vedic astrology , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"> > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > Namaste friends,> > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be> > handy to most.> > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. When> > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens to it> > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah does not> > necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, you> > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining of> > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am> > correcting the mantras for your reference.> > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoRaameswaraaya> > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya> > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoBhimashankaraaya> > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya> NamoMallikaarjunaaya> > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya NamaOmkaareswaraaya> > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without sandhi/joining)> > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya> > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya NamahKaaleswaraaya> > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoNaageswaraaya > > Ketu Viswanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamoViswanaathaaya> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> > > > |Om Tat Sat|> http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 II HREEM MAHISHAMARDINI HREEM SWAHA II Dear Dasgupta da & Narasimha ji, Namaste, I am also confused with so much of inputs coming in about this subject. Now, I am working on a chart of a person, who is facing some difficulty in career. In his D-10, the fifth house is Taurus. Which mantra is appropriate for him? Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya ( When 5th Lord Venus ,in D-10 is taken into consideration ) OR Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya ( When the 5th house Taurus, in D-10 is taken into consideration ). Warm regards Dilip Banerjee. - j.k.dasgupta varahamihira Friday, October 03, 2003 11:59 AM Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. dear shiva, say the 5H is Libra. so 5H point to Jyotirlinga `Kaleswara'. But 5L Ve points to Jyotirlinga `Trayambakesrara'. now..who is to be worshipped? as i know- sign should rule, but as per you should it be seen from the lord of the sign instead? regards jk - Shiv Pujan varahamihira Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:42 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. Jaya Jagannath Dear List In matters of worship it is very imporatant to bear in mind that the signs describe only the environment or the place of the deity while the lord ( i.e a planet ) shows someone who is animate and therefore has life. We pray a deity after infusing life into a deity ( called Prana-Pratishtha ). Hence a lord or deity is symbolised only by a planet and not a sign. Hope this clarifies the issue. Best wishes Shiv Pujan Sarajit Poddar [sarajit]Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:29 AMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Rao,You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, but alsothe karaka of the 5th for power and authority. However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and not the 5thlord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for careerrelated matters?Any take on this?Best WishesSarajitRao Nemani [raon1008] Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.Dear Sarajit Ji,Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following is the reason:-The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun.By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc.,RegardsRaghunadha Raovarahamihira , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Sureshbabu,> > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and the> not the planet ruling it?> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > > Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM> varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question--> > Shivaaya Namah!> > Dear Mofie,> > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. If> your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is> SomaNatha or if it is Libra then the Jyotirlinga form will be that of> Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), as> Venus exalts in that sign> > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted> in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the> jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries> hence Rameshwara for Aries etc....> > Hope this helps.> > Best Regards,> -Suresh.> > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...>> wrote:> > Om Krishna Guru> > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's> > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why is > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 jyotirlinga> for > > each 12 rasi> > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is chosen> from > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's.> > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the> Dasamsa > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena rasi > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the jyotirlinga > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? Should> the > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi?> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > Hare Krsna,> > Mofie Augustine> > > > vedic astrology , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"> > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > Namaste friends,> > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be> > handy to most.> > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. When> > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens to it> > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah does not> > necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, you> > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining of> > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am> > correcting the mantras for your reference.> > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoRaameswaraaya> > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya> > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoBhimashankaraaya> > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya> NamoMallikaarjunaaya> > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya NamaOmkaareswaraaya> > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without sandhi/joining)> > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya> > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya NamahKaaleswaraaya> > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya NamoNaageswaraaya > > Ketu Viswanaatha Om NamasSivaaya NamoViswanaathaaya> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> > > > |Om Tat Sat|> http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Dear Dr. Dilip Ji, Namaste, May I answer this with my a little knoweldge, and request Guru's to correct me if I am wrong. Jyotirlinga Mantra chanting/reciting for career related issues are should be taken from 5th Lord from D-10. If I take this principle, then as per your example, the native should consdier chanting 5th Lord Venus, which is represented by Tryambakeswara and the corresponding Mantra is " Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya " . Regards Raghunadha Rao varahamihira , " Dr.D.Banerjee " <drdilip@s...> wrote: > II HREEM MAHISHAMARDINI HREEM SWAHA II > > Dear Dasgupta da & Narasimha ji, > > Namaste, > > I am also confused with so much of inputs coming in about this subject. Now, I am working on a chart of a person, who is facing some difficulty in career. In his D-10, the fifth house is Taurus. Which mantra is appropriate for him? > > Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya ( When 5th Lord Venus ,in D-10 is taken into consideration ) > > OR > > Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya ( When the 5th house Taurus, in D-10 is taken into consideration ). > > Warm regards > Dilip Banerjee. > > > > - > j.k.dasgupta > varahamihira > Friday, October 03, 2003 11:59 AM > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > > dear shiva, > > say the 5H is Libra. so 5H point to Jyotirlinga `Kaleswara'. But 5L Ve points to Jyotirlinga `Trayambakesrara'. now..who is to be worshipped? > > as i know- sign should rule, but as per you should it be seen from the lord of the sign instead? > > regards > > jk > - > Shiv Pujan > varahamihira > Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:42 PM > RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > > Jaya Jagannath > Dear List > In matters of worship it is very imporatant to bear in mind that the signs describe only the environment or the place of the deity while the lord ( i.e a planet ) shows someone who is animate and therefore has life. We pray a deity after infusing life into a deity ( called Prana-Pratishtha ). Hence a lord or deity is symbolised only by a planet and not a sign. Hope this clarifies the issue. > Best wishes > Shiv Pujan > > Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:29 AM > varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Rao, > > You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, but also > the karaka of the 5th for power and authority. > > However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and not the 5th > lord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for career > related matters? > > Any take on this? > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > > > Rao Nemani [raon1008] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > Dear Sarajit Ji, > > Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji > mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following > is the reason:- > > The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the > Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun. > > By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the > negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of > Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc., > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > > > varahamihira , " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajit@s...> > wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Sureshbabu, > > > > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and > the > > not the planet ruling it? > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM > > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question-- > > > > Shivaaya Namah! > > > > Dear Mofie, > > > > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. > If > > your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is > > SomaNatha or if it is Libra then the Jyotirlinga form will be that > of > > Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), > as > > Venus exalts in that sign > > > > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted > > in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the > > jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries > > hence Rameshwara for Aries etc.... > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Best Regards, > > -Suresh. > > > > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...> > > wrote: > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's > > > > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why > is > > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 > jyotirlinga > > for > > > each 12 rasi > > > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is > chosen > > from > > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's. > > > > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the > > Dasamsa > > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena > rasi > > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the > jyotirlinga > > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? > Should > > the > > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi? > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Hare Krsna, > > > Mofie Augustine > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > > > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > > Namaste friends, > > > > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be > > > handy to most. > > > > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. > When > > > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens > to it > > > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah > does not > > > necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, > you > > > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining > of > > > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am > > > correcting the mantras for your reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoRaameswaraaya > > > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya > NamasSomanaathaaya > > > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoBhimashankaraaya > > > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya > > NamoMallikaarjunaaya > > > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamaOmkaareswaraaya > > > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without sandhi/joining) > > > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamasTryambakeswaraaya > > > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamahKaaleswaraaya > > > > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoNaageswaraaya > > > Ketu Viswanaatha Om NamasSivaaya > NamoViswanaathaaya > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > > http://www.varahamihira > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 II STREEM DUM SWAHA II Dear Rao Saheb, Namaste, I also think that the Mantra of 5th lord in D-10 is the right one for problem related to the carrer. Well, let us wait for the Gurus to correct us. Warm regards Dilip Banerjee. - Rao Nemani varahamihira Friday, October 03, 2003 8:59 PM |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. Dear Dr. Dilip Ji,Namaste,May I answer this with my a little knoweldge, and request Guru's to correct me if I am wrong.Jyotirlinga Mantra chanting/reciting for career related issues are should be taken from 5th Lord from D-10. If I take this principle, then as per your example, the native should consdier chanting 5th Lord Venus, which is represented by Tryambakeswara and the corresponding Mantra is "Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya".RegardsRaghunadha Raovarahamihira , "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip@s...> wrote:> II HREEM MAHISHAMARDINI HREEM SWAHA II> > Dear Dasgupta da & Narasimha ji,> > Namaste,> > I am also confused with so much of inputs coming in about this subject. Now, I am working on a chart of a person, who is facing some difficulty in career. In his D-10, the fifth house is Taurus. Which mantra is appropriate for him?> > Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya ( When 5th Lord Venus ,in D-10 is taken into consideration )> > OR> > Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya ( When the 5th house Taurus, in D-10 is taken into consideration ).> > Warm regards> Dilip Banerjee.> > > > - > j.k.dasgupta > varahamihira > Friday, October 03, 2003 11:59 AM> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > > dear shiva,> > say the 5H is Libra. so 5H point to Jyotirlinga `Kaleswara'. But 5L Ve points to Jyotirlinga `Trayambakesrara'. now..who is to be worshipped? > > as i know- sign should rule, but as per you should it be seen from the lord of the sign instead?> > regards> > jk> - > Shiv Pujan > varahamihira > Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:42 PM> RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > > Jaya Jagannath> Dear List> In matters of worship it is very imporatant to bear in mind that the signs describe only the environment or the place of the deity while the lord ( i.e a planet ) shows someone who is animate and therefore has life. We pray a deity after infusing life into a deity ( called Prana-Pratishtha ). Hence a lord or deity is symbolised only by a planet and not a sign. Hope this clarifies the issue.> Best wishes> Shiv Pujan> > Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...]> Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:29 AM> varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Rao,> > You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, but also> the karaka of the 5th for power and authority. > > However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and not the 5th> lord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for career> related matters?> > Any take on this?> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > > Rao Nemani [raon1008] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AM> varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > Dear Sarajit Ji,> > Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji > mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following > is the reason:-> > The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the > Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun.> > By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the > negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of > Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc.,> > Regards> Raghunadha Rao> > > varahamihira , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> > wrote:> > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sureshbabu,> > > > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and > the> > not the planet ruling it?> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > > > Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM> > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question--> > > > Shivaaya Namah!> > > > Dear Mofie,> > > > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. > If> > your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is> > SomaNatha or if it is Libra then the Jyotirlinga form will be that > of> > Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), > as> > Venus exalts in that sign> > > > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted> > in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the> > jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries> > hence Rameshwara for Aries etc....> > > > Hope this helps.> > > > Best Regards,> > -Suresh.> > > > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...>> > wrote:> > > Om Krishna Guru> > > > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's> > > > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why > is > > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 > jyotirlinga> > for > > > each 12 rasi> > > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is > chosen> > from > > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's.> > > > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the> > Dasamsa > > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena > rasi > > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the > jyotirlinga > > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? > Should> > the > > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi?> > > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > Hare Krsna,> > > Mofie Augustine> > > > > > vedic astrology , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"> > > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be> > > handy to most.> > > > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. > When> > > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens > to it> > > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah > does not> > > necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, > you> > > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining > of> > > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am> > > correcting the mantras for your reference.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoRaameswaraaya> > > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya > NamasSomanaathaaya> > > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoBhimashankaraaya> > > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya> > NamoMallikaarjunaaya> > > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamaOmkaareswaraaya> > > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without sandhi/joining)> > > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamasTryambakeswaraaya> > > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamahKaaleswaraaya> > > > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoNaageswaraaya > > > Ketu Viswanaatha Om NamasSivaaya > NamoViswanaathaaya> > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > > Narasimha> > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat|> > http://www.varahamihira > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Dear Sai, Namaste, Jyotirlinga Mantra chanting/reciting for career related issues, we should be Consider mantra of 5th Lord from D-10. As Dr. Dilip had mentioned earlier, let the Guru's confirm this, I am also waiting for their reply to clarify my understanding too. Regards Raghunadha Rao varahamihira , " Saikumar " <astrossk@c...> wrote: > > Namasthe Rao Ji, > This is what Sarajit ji opined on this " As Narasimha Pointed out, the 5th > lord in the Dasamsa is very crucial in the careers of the native and show > opportunities in the job life of a native. Worshipping the Jyotirlingam which > shall cause the exaltation of the 5th lord is good for the career of the > native. " > > > > " Saikumar " <astrossk@c...> > 2003/10/03 15:37:29 > raon1008 > Cc: varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > > Namasthe Rao Ji, > Is it the Mantra for the 5th Lord ? > or > Mantra for the sign of exaltation of 5th Lord? > Regards, > Sai > > " Rao Nemani " <raon1008> > 2003/10/03 15:29:32 > varahamihira > Cc: > |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > Dear Dr. Dilip Ji, > > Namaste, > > May I answer this with my a little knoweldge, and request > Guru's to correct me if I am wrong. > > Jyotirlinga Mantra chanting/reciting for career related > issues are should be taken from 5th Lord from D-10. > > If I take this principle, then as per your example, the > native should consdier chanting 5th Lord Venus, which is > represented by Tryambakeswara and the corresponding Mantra > is " Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya " . > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > > > varahamihira , " Dr.D.Banerjee " <drdilip@s...> > wrote: > > II HREEM MAHISHAMARDINI HREEM SWAHA II > > > Dear Dasgupta da & amp; Narasimha ji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > I am also confused with so much of inputs coming in about this > subject. Now, I am working on a chart of a person, who is facing some > difficulty in career. In his D-10, the fifth house is Taurus. Which > mantra is appropriate for him? > > > > Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya ( When 5th Lord Venus ,in > D-10 is taken into consideration ) > > > > OR > > > > Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya ( When the 5th house Taurus, > in D-10 is taken into consideration ). > > > > Warm regards > > Dilip Banerjee. > > > > > > > > - > > j.k.dasgupta > > varahamihira > > Friday, Oc! tober 03, 2003 11:59 AM > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > > > > > dear shiva, > > > > say the 5H is Libra. so 5H point to Jyotirlinga `Kaleswara'. But > 5L Ve points to Jyotirlinga `Trayambakesrara'. now..who is to be > worshipped? > > > > as i know- sign should rule, but as per you should it be seen > from the lord of the sign instead? > > > > regards > > > > jk > > - > > Shiv Pujan > > varahamihira > > Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:42 PM > > RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > > > > > Jaya Jagannath > > Dear List > > In matters of worship it is very imporatant to bear in m! ind > that the signs describe only the environment or the place of the > deity while the lord ( i.e a planet ) shows someone who is animate > and therefore has life. We pray a deity after infusing life into a > deity ( called Prana-Pratishtha ). Hence a lord or deity is > symbolised only by a planet and not a sign. Hope this clarifies the > issue. > > Best wishes > > Shiv Pujan > > > > Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...] > > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:29 AM > > varahamihira > > RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > & amp;! nbsp; Dear Rao, > > > > & amp;n bsp; You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, > > but also > > the karaka of the 5th for power and authority. > > > > However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and > not the 5th > > lord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for > career > > related matters? > > > > Any take on this? > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > Rao Nemani [raon1008] > > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AM > > varahamihira! m > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. > > > > Dear Sarajit Ji, > > > > Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji > > mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following > > is the reason:- > > > > The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and > the > > Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun. > > > > By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the > > negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of > > Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc., > > > > & amp;! nbsp; Regards > > & amp; nbsp; Raghunadha Rao > > > > > > varahamihira , " Sarajit Poddar " > <sarajit@s...> > > wrote: > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > > Dear Sureshbabu, > > > > > > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th > house and > > the > > > not the planet ruling it? > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > & amp;g! t; Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > > > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM > > > varahamihira > > > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question-- > > > > > > Shivaaya Namah! > > > > > > Dear Mofie, > > > > > > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the > Planet. > > If > > > your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the > Jyotirligs is > > > SomaNatha or if it is Libra then t! he Jyotirlinga form will > be that > > & amp; nbsp; of > > > Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices > (Meena), > > as > > > Venus exalts in that sign > > > > > > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that > get's exalted > > > in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence > Sommanatha is the > > > jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun > in Aries > > > hence Rameshwara for Aries etc.... > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > ! > Best Regards, > > > -Suresh. > > > > > > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine > <mofieA@n...> > > > wrote: > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > > > Dear Guru's & amp; Jyotisha's > > > > > > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's > Mantra. Why > > is > > > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen > from their > > > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 ! > > jyotirlinga > > > for > > > > each 12 rasi > > > > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu > is > > chosen > > > from > > > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 > graha's. > > > > > > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord > of the > > > Dasamsa > > > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is > Meena > > rasi > > > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om > NamasSivaaya > > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is > the > > jyotirlinga > > > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of > Kuja? > > Should > > > the > > > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara > rasi? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > Hare Krsna, > > > > Mofie Augustine > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Naras! imha P.V.R. > Rao " > > > > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > > > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that > should be > > > > handy to most. > > > > > > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga > sandhi. > > When > > > > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what > happens > > to it > > > > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. > Namah > > does not > > > >! ; necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit > language, > > you > > > > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi > (sandhi=joining > > of > > > > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). > I am > > > > correcting the mantras for your reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya > > NamoRaameswaraaya > > & amp;nbs! p; > > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya > > NamasSomanaathaaya > > > > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya > > NamoBhimashankaraaya > > > > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya > > > NamoMallikaarjunaaya > > > > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya > > NamaOmkaareswaraaya > > > > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without! > sandhi/joining) > > > > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya > > > > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya > > NamahKaaleswaraaya > > > > > > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya > > NamoNaageswaraaya > > > > Ketu Viswanaatha O! m NamasSivaaya > > NamoViswan aathaaya > > > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > > > http://www.varahamihira > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Namasthe Rao Ji, Is it the Mantra for the 5th Lord ? or Mantra for the sign of exaltation of 5th Lord? Regards, Sai"Rao Nemani" <raon10082003/10/03 15:29:32varahamihira Cc: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.Dear Dr. Dilip Ji,Namaste,May I answer this with my a little knoweldge, and request Guru's to correct me if I am wrong.Jyotirlinga Mantra chanting/reciting for career related issues are should be taken from 5th Lord from D-10. If I take this principle, then as per your example, the native should consdier chanting 5th Lord Venus, which is represented by Tryambakeswara and the corresponding Mantra is "Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya".RegardsRaghunadha Raovarahamihira , "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip@s...> wrote:> II HREEM MAHISHAMARDINI HREEM SWAHA II> > Dear Dasgupta da & Narasimha ji,> > Namaste,> > I am also confused with so much of inputs coming in about this subject. Now, I am working on a chart of a person, who is facing some difficulty in career. In his D-10, the fifth house is Taurus. Which mantra is appropriate for him?> > Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya ( When 5th Lord Venus ,in D-10 is taken into consideration )> > OR> > Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya ( When the 5th house Taurus, in D-10 is taken into consideration ).> > Warm regards> Dilip Banerjee.> > > > - > j.k.dasgupta > varahamihira > Friday, Oc! tober 03, 2003 11:59 AM> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > > dear shiva,> > say the 5H is Libra. so 5H point to Jyotirlinga `Kaleswara'. But 5L Ve points to Jyotirlinga `Trayambakesrara'. now..who is to be worshipped? > > as i know- sign should rule, but as per you should it be seen from the lord of the sign instead?> > regards> > jk> - > Shiv Pujan > varahamihira > Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:42 PM> RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > > Jaya Jagannath> Dear List> In matters of worship it is very imporatant to bear in m! ind that the signs describe only the environment or the place of the deity while the lord ( i.e a planet ) shows someone who is animate and therefore has life. We pray a deity after infusing life into a deity ( called Prana-Pratishtha ). Hence a lord or deity is symbolised only by a planet and not a sign. Hope this clarifies the issue.> Best wishes> Shiv Pujan> > Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...]> Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:29 AM> varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> ! nbsp; Dear Rao,> > &n bsp; You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, but also> the karaka of the 5th for power and authority. > > However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and not the 5th> lord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for career> related matters?> > Any take on this?> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > > Rao Nemani [raon1008] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AM> varahamihira! m> |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > Dear Sarajit Ji,> > Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji > mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following > is the reason:-> > The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the > Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun.> > By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the > negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of > Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc.,> > ! nbsp; Regards> nbsp; Raghunadha Rao> > > varahamihira , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> > wrote:> > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sureshbabu,> > > > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and > the> > not the planet ruling it?> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > > &g! t; Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM> > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question--> > > > Shivaaya Namah!> > > > Dear Mofie,> > > > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. > If> > your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is> > SomaNatha or if it is Libra then t! he Jyotirlinga form will be that > nbsp; of> > Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), > as> > Venus exalts in that sign> > > > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted> > in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the> > jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries> > hence Rameshwara for Aries etc....> > > > Hope this helps.> > > ! > Best Regards,> > -Suresh.> > > > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...>> > wrote:> > > Om Krishna Guru> > > > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's> > > > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why > is > > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > > exalted rasi? From what I learn in the list there are 12 ! > jyotirlinga> > for > > > each 12 rasi> > > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is > chosen> > from > > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's.> > > > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the> > Dasamsa > > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena > rasi > > > which is Mallikarjuna but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the > jyotirlinga > > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? > Should> > the > > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi?> > > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > Hare Krsna,> > > Mofie Augustine> > > > > > vedic astrology , "Naras! imha P.V.R. Rao"> > > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be> > > handy to most.> > > > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. > When> > > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens > to it> > > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah > does not> > >! ; necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, > you> > > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining > of> > > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am> > > correcting the mantras for your reference.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoRaameswaraaya> &nbs! p; > > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya > NamasSomanaathaaya> > > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoBhimashankaraaya> > > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya> > NamoMallikaarjunaaya> > > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamaOmkaareswaraaya> > > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without! sandhi/joining)> > > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamasTryambakeswaraaya> > > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamahKaaleswaraaya> > > > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoNaageswaraaya > > > Ketu Viswanaatha O! m NamasSivaaya > NamoViswan aathaaya> > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > > Narasimha> > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat|> > http://www.varahamihira > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Namasthe Rao Ji, This is what Sarajit ji opined on this " As Narasimha Pointed out, the 5th lord in the Dasamsa is very crucial in the careers of the native and show opportunities in the job life of a native. Worshipping the Jyotirlingam which shall cause the exaltation of the 5th lord is good for the career of the native." "Saikumar" <astrossk2003/10/03 15:37:29raon1008Cc: varahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question. Namasthe Rao Ji, Is it the Mantra for the 5th Lord ? or Mantra for the sign of exaltation of 5th Lord? Regards, Sai"Rao Nemani" <raon10082003/10/03 15:29:32varahamihira Cc: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.Dear Dr. Dilip Ji,Namaste,May I answer this with my a little knoweldge, and request Guru's to correct me if I am wrong.Jyotirlinga Mantra chanting/reciting for career related issues are should be taken from 5th Lord from D-10. If I take this principle, then as per your example, the native should consdier chanting 5th Lord Venus, which is represented by Tryambakeswara and the corresponding Mantra is "Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya".RegardsRaghunadha Raovarahamihira , "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip@s...> wrote:> II HREEM MAHISHAMARDINI HREEM SWAHA II> > Dear Dasgupta da & Narasimha ji,> > Namaste,> > I am also confused with so much of inputs coming in about this subject. Now, I am working on a chart of a person, who is facing some difficulty in career. In his D-10, the fifth house is Taurus. Which mantra is appropriate for him?> > Om NamasSivaaya NamasTryambakeswaraaya ( When 5th Lord Venus ,in D-10 is taken into consideration )> > OR> > Om NamasSivaaya NamasSomanaathaaya ( When the 5th house Taurus, in D-10 is taken into consideration ).> > Warm regards> Dilip Banerjee.> > > > - > j.k.dasgupta > varahamihira > Friday, O! c! tober 03, 2003 11:59 AM> Re: |Sri Varah a| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > > dear shiva,> > say the 5H is Libra. so 5H point to Jyotirlinga `Kaleswara'. But 5L Ve points to Jyotirlinga `Trayambakesrara'. now..who is to be worshipped? > > as i know- sign should rule, but as per you should it be seen from the lord of the sign instead?> > regards> > jk> - > Shiv Pujan > varahamihira > Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:42 PM> RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > > Jaya Jagannath> Dear List> In matters of worship it is very imporatant to bear i! n m! ind that the signs describe only the environment or the place of the deity while the lord ( i.e a planet ) shows someone who is animate and therefore has life. We pray a deity after infusing life into a deity ( called Prana-Pratishtha ). Hence a lord or deity is symbolised only by a planet and not a sign. Hope this clarifies the issue.> Best wishes> Shiv Pujan> > Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...]> Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:29 AM> varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> &n! bsp; & ! nbsp; Dear Rao,> > &nb sp; & n bsp; You have correctly got it. Sun is not only the natural lord, but also> the karaka of the 5th for power and authority. > > However the question I asked is why take the 5th house and not the 5th> lord for finding the Jyotirlingam, that to be worshipped for career> related matters?> > Any take on this?> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > > Rao Nemani [raon1008] > Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:36 AM> varahamihir! a! m> |Sri Varaha| Re: Jyotirlinga's Question.> > Dear Sarajit Ji,> > Let me attempt to answer to your question, which Sanjay Ji > mentioned before, and if I remember correctly, the following > is the reason:-> > The fifth house respresents one's Authority and Power and the > Natural lord of the 5th house (Leo) is the Sun.> > By worshipping the Sun or Shiva we are able to get over the > negative effects of the Saturn who represents mainly Loss of > Job,Poverty,Old Age, Retirement etc.,&g! t; > & ! nbsp; Regards> nbsp; & nbsp; Raghunadha Rao> > > varahamihira , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> > wrote:> > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sureshbabu,> > > > Any thoughts, why the Mantra is associated with the 5th house and > the> > not the planet ruling it?> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > > &nbs! p; & g! t; Sureshbabu Chandra [crsureshbabu] > > Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:41 AM> > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Fwd: Re: Jyotirlinga's Question--> > > > Shivaaya Namah!> > > > Dear Mofie,> > > > The Jyotirlinga form is associated with the Sign, not the Planet. > If> > your 5th house in Dasamsa is say Taurus, then the Jyotirligs is> >! SomaNatha or if it is Libra then t! he Jyotirlinga form will be t hat > & nbsp; of> > Kaaleshwara. Tryambakeshwara form is associated with Pices (Meena), > as> > Venus exalts in that sign> > > > Mantra for Jyotirlings is related to the Planet that get's exalted> > in that sign. for eg Moon exalts in Taurus, hence Sommanatha is the> > jyotirlinga; Saturn exalts in Libra, hence Kaaleshwara; Sun in Aries> > hence Rameshwara for Aries etc....> > > > Hope this helps.> ! gt; > ! > Best Regards,> > -Suresh.> > > > varahamihira , Mofie Augustine <mofieA@n...>> > wrote:> > > Om Krishna Guru> > > > > > Dear Guru's & Jyotisha's> > > > > > I would like to enquire about the below Jyotirlinga's Mantra. Why > is > > > that for Kuja, Sukra and Buda the mantra is not chosen from their > > > exalted rasi?! From what I learn in the list there are 12 ! > &nbs p; jyotirlinga> > for > > > each 12 rasi> > > and the mantra for Surya,Guru,Chandra,Shani,Rahu and Ketu is > chosen> > from > > > their exalted rasi but not for the abovementioned 3 graha's.> > > > > > Suppose if someone use the logic to worship the 5th lord of the> > Dasamsa > > > (say it's Sukra) , then the exalted sign of this graha is Meena > rasi > > > which is Mallikarjuna ! but why the mantra use Om NamasSivaaya > > > NamasTryambakeswaraaya in which Triambakeshwara is the > jyotirlinga > > > associated with Makara rasi which is the exaltation of Kuja? > Should> > the > > > person use the mantra associated with Meena or Makara rasi?> > > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > Hare Krsna,> > > Mofie Augustine> > > > > >! ; vedic astrology , "Naras! imha P.V.R. Rao" > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > Rao Nemani gave the following wonderful compilation that should be> > > handy to most.> > > > > > However, there are minor mistakes with the use of visarga sandhi. > When> > > a sound comes after visarga (h sound as in namah), what happens > to it> > > depends on what is before visarga and what is after it. Namah > does not> > >! ; necessarily become namo always. If you learn Sanskrit language, > you> > > can learn the systematic rules of visarga sandhi (sandhi=joining > of> > > two words into one word due to continuous pronunciation). I am> > > correcting the mantras for your reference.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sun Raameswara Om NamasSivaaya > ! NamoRaameswaraaya> & nbs! p; &g t; > Moon Somanaatha Om NamasSivaaya > NamasSomanaathaaya> > > Mars Bhimeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoBhimashankaraaya> > > Mercury Mallikaarjuna Om NamasSivaaya> > NamoMallikaarjunaaya> > > Jupiter Omkaareswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamaOmkaareswaraaya> ! ; > > (or Om NamasSivaya Namah Omkareswaraya - without! sandhi/joining)> > > Venus Tryambakeswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamasTryambakeswaraaya> > > Saturn Kaaleswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamahKaaleswaraaya> > > > > Rahu Naageswara Om NamasSivaaya > NamoNaageswaraaya > > > Ketu Viswanaatha ! nbsp; O! m Namas Sivaaya > NamoViswan aathaaya> > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > > Narasimha> > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat|> > http://www.varahamihira > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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