Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Guru's and Learned Members, Namaste, While reading the messages in the archives, I have come across several times, it was mentioned as Pitri Narayana Dasa (D-12). What I was told and heard so far is " Pitru Devo Bhavah " , here we use " Pitru " . So why we also say " Pitri " while referring to D-12 for Parents. Please educate me. Regards Raghunadha Rao Quote
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Dear Nemani, Its' Pitri. With the ri like in rishi. Itrans is pitR^i. Pitru is a regional corruption due to accent. You can use Dictionaries to verify such queries. Some are available online. http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/indologie/tamil/cap_search.html http://aa2411s.aa.tufs.ac.jp/~tjun/sktdic/ You can also download and install dictionary locally from http://members.ams.chello.nl/l.bontes/ It uses Monier Williams, I heard some words translated by MW is not accurate. But nevertheless you can use as a rough guide since it's available easily. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran varahamihira , " Rao Nemani " <raon1008> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Guru's and Learned Members, > > Namaste, > > While reading the messages in the archives, I have come across > several times, it was mentioned as Pitri Narayana Dasa (D-12). > > What I was told and heard so far is " Pitru Devo Bhavah " , here > we use " Pitru " . So why we also say " Pitri " while referring > to D-12 for Parents. > > Please educate me. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao Quote
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sanjay, I protest. You are dismissing one region's illogical convention, while upholding another region's *equally illogical* convention. If " pitru " is a " regional corruption " (which it is), so is " pitri " . The latter is a regional corruption too. The correct word/pronunciation is neither. It cannot be. The sound coming after pit is an VOWEL (the same vowel is found before " shi " in what some people write as " rishi " and some people from south India write as " rushi " ). There is no explicit rakaara ( " r " sound) in that vowel. For God's sake, it is an vowel and not a consonant or semi-vowel!! That is why pitri (or pitru) is taken as a laghu-laghu in chhandas and not as a guru-laghu (which it would be, if there is an explicit r after t). It is obvious that it is neither ri nor ru. It is instead an vowel that is tough to pronounce. I have seen only a handful of people who pronounce it right (and the right pronunciation is neither ri nor ru. Both are inaccurate approximations). So I strongly protest against calling one region's convention " a corruption due to accent " , when the convention you follow is not any better at all. If you want, write it as " pitri " , but don't call it wrong if somebody writes it as " pitru " . If you want, we can discuss it more when we meet this weekend. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Nemani, > Its' Pitri. With the ri like in rishi. > Itrans is pitR^i. > Pitru is a regional corruption due to accent. > > You can use Dictionaries to verify such queries. Some are available > online. > > http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/indologie/tamil/cap_search.html > http://aa2411s.aa.tufs.ac.jp/~tjun/sktdic/ > > You can also download and install dictionary locally from > http://members.ams.chello.nl/l.bontes/ > It uses Monier Williams, I heard some words translated by MW is not > accurate. But nevertheless you can use as a rough guide since it's > available easily. > > Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran Quote
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