Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Ramdasji and Chandrashekarji Pranaam, I just wanted to add that as taught and used by Pt. Sanjay Rath, Mandi and Gulika are different and they have very specific uses. I wanted say this just in case anybody is in doubt as to who uses what. In B.V.Raman's translation of Prashna Marga Vol One in page 160 He has mentioned the difference between Mandi and Gulika so even he considers them seperately. So as far as the usage goes there seems to equal argument on both sides. In Pt. Sanjay Rath's Book Udu Dasa he uses them seperately. He also mentions something like Mandi's rasi lord tries to gives the results, whereas Gulika's Nakshatra lord gives Gulika's results. He uses this specifically in Rabindranath Tagore's Jupiter dasa giving Gulika results (Jataka Parijata calls the Gulika naxatra lord dasa as gulika dasa). With My Limited understanding It seems to me that there is Zone in the zodiac ruled by Gulika(Gulika Kaalam), the mandi point comes in that zone. So most authors must have used word Gulika to refer to this zone (called Gulika Kaala) this includes the point mandi too. When Gulika is mentioned as point it is I think either the start of the zone or the end point of the zone, There is again controversy as to where to place the Gulika 'point'. B.V. Ramanji I think used the end point and that's what is the default settings in JHora. Guru Pt. Sanjay Rath is using those points. It seems fromt his example in Rabindranath Tagore He used the Gulika point as end point in the Gulika Kaalam. Mandi is the mid point in Gulika Kaalam. This is my humble opinion, Your learned opinions and qoutes will help me more in understand. Thank You, Warm Regards S. Prabhakaram Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Dear SanjayP, I accepted Brendan's suggesion to 'play' with this and see big enough sample of charts- that's the best way to test a concept. For the time being I will share an example: Male, July 11, 1976, Scorpio lagna, Mars in Le-Magha- Sun/Me in 8th H- full Moon in second; Both Gulika an Maandi in Scorpio, in Anuradha. In Mars MD native almost lost a hand, had 2 operations, aenestetics, as well as "unreasonalby" /my opinion/ administered "poison"- Morphium after the operation, untill I requested /and signed/ that it be excluded. Native was impressed by drug effects, so /even without knowing astro-facts/ the fear was felt that he was a good candidate for fulfilling Maandi's 'self-poisoning' part, for at least two years, when constant attention helped him overcome the longing to repeat 'poisoinous experience. Best wishes, Anna-"sanjayprabhakaran" Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:33:30 -0000varahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| mandI & gulikA|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Ramdasji and ChandrashekarjiPranaam, I just wanted to add that as taught and used by Pt. Sanjay Rath, Mandi and Gulika are different and they have very specific uses. I wanted say this just in case anybody is in doubt as to who uses what. In B.V.Raman's translation of Prashna Marga Vol One in page 160 He has mentioned the difference between Mandi and Gulika so even he considers them seperately. So as far as the usage goes there seems to equal argument on both sides. In Pt. Sanjay Rath's Book Udu Dasa he uses them seperately. He also mentions something like Mandi's rasi lord tries to gives the results, whereas Gulika's Nakshatra lord gives Gulika's results. He uses thi s specifically in Rabindranath Tagore's Jupiter dasa giving Gulika results (Jataka Parijata calls the Gulika naxatra lord dasa as gulika dasa).With My Limited understanding It seems to me that there is Zone in the zodiac ruled by Gulika(Gulika Kaalam), the mandi point comes in that zone. So most authors must have used word Gulika to refer to this zone (called Gulika Kaala) this includes the point mandi too. When Gulika is mentioned as point it is I think either the start of the zone or the end point of the zone, There is again controversy as to where to place the Gulika 'point'. B.V. Ramanji I think used the end point and that's what is the default settings in JHora.Guru Pt. Sanjay Rath is using those points. It seems fromt his example in Rabindranath Tagore He used the Gulika point as end point in the Gulika Kaalam. Mandi is the mid point in Gulika Kaalam.This is my humble opinion, Your learned opinions and qou tes will help me more in understand.Thank You,Warm RegardsS. PrabhakaramOm Tat Sat|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sanjay Ji, I am sorry for my mistakes.Yes, I found in Prashna Margam and also in Fundamentals of Astrology by Sri M.R.Bhat.Both Gulika and Mandi are different. Thanks for your explanation. With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Ramdasji and ChandrashekarjiPranaam, I just wanted to add that as taught and used by Pt. Sanjay Rath, Mandi and Gulika are different and they have very specific uses. I wanted say this just in case anybody is in doubt as to who uses what. In B.V.Raman's translation of Prashna Marga Vol One in page 160 He has mentioned the difference between Mandi and Gulika so even he considers them seperately. So as far as the usage goes there seems to equal argument on both sides. In Pt. Sanjay Rath's Book Udu Dasa he uses them seperately. He also mentions something like Mandi's rasi lord tries to gives the results, whereas Gulika's Nakshatra lord gives Gulika's results. He uses this specifically in Rabindranath Tagore's Jupiter dasa giving Gulika results (Jataka Parijata calls the Gulika naxatra lord dasa as gulika dasa).With My Limited understanding It seems to me that there is Zone in the zodiac ruled by Gulika(Gulika Kaalam), the mandi point comes in that zone. So most authors must have used word Gulika to refer to this zone (called Gulika Kaala) this includes the point mandi too. When Gulika is mentioned as point it is I think either the start of the zone or the end point of the zone, There is again controversy as to where to place the Gulika 'point'. B.V. Ramanji I think used the end point and that's what is the default settings in JHora.Guru Pt. Sanjay Rath is using those points. It seems fromt his example in Rabindranath Tagore He used the Gulika point as end point in the Gulika Kaalam. Mandi is the mid point in Gulika Kaalam.This is my humble opinion, Your learned opinions and qoutes will help me more in understand.Thank You,Warm RegardsS. PrabhakaramOm Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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