Karaka for Yama's: Moral codes of Conduct

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OM Ram Rameshavaraya Namaha

 

Hello sisya's and Gurus.

As I look to the 5 key Yamas viz. ahimsa (non-violence), satya

(truthfulness), asteya (non-stealing, honesty), brahmacarya

(continence) and aparigraha (lack of greed)... is the Karaka for

these 5 Brihapsiti ( Guru) or is there an esculation to the 5 tatva

grahas?

Sun, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn?

 

any thoughts on this?

 

Pranams,

 

Frank in San Diego

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Dear Frank,

Since the yamas are to be practiced and represent control of mind, I would think Moon would be the Karaka.

Chandrashekhar.

 

fls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego]Saturday, November 29, 2003 1:36 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Karaka for Yama's: Moral codes of ConductOM Ram Rameshavaraya NamahaHello sisya's and Gurus.As I look to the 5 key Yamas viz. ahimsa (non-violence), satya (truthfulness), asteya (non-stealing, honesty), brahmacarya (continence) and aparigraha (lack of greed)... is the Karaka forthese 5 Brihapsiti ( Guru) or is there an esculation to the 5 tatva grahas?Sun, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn?any thoughts on this?Pranams,Frank in San Diego|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

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|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Frank,

 

As they represent the actions which can

overcome the weaknesses, I would consider the Luminaries and Jupiter to lord

over them who do not rule any of the shadripus. I would consider Sun to

overlord all of them as Sun represents the light which can burn all the ripus.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

Chandrashekhar Sharma

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Sunday, November 30, 2003

3:31 AM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Karaka

for Yama's: Moral codes of Conduct

 

 

Dear Frank,

 

 

Since the yamas are to be

practiced and represent control of mind, I would think Moon would be the

Karaka.

 

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

fls999999999

[frank_in_sandiego]

Saturday, November 29, 2003

1:36 AM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Karaka for

Yama's: Moral codes of Conduct

OM Ram Rameshavaraya Namaha

 

Hello sisya's and Gurus.

As I look to the 5 key Yamas viz. ahimsa

(non-violence), satya

(truthfulness), asteya (non-stealing, honesty),

brahmacarya

(continence) and aparigraha (lack of

greed)... is the Karaka for

these 5 Brihapsiti ( Guru) or is there an

esculation to the 5 tatva

grahas?

Sun, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn?

 

any thoughts on this?

 

Pranams,

 

Frank in San Diego

 

 

 

 

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

 

 

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Hare Rama Krsna

I have thought about this as well, and debated with various Yogis, and found

no common agreement.

But here is my thoughts and reasoning using Samkya philosophy.

 

Jupiter Akash Sound Ears Mouth

Saturn Vayu Touch Skin Hands

Mars Agni Sight Eyes Feet

Venus Jala Taste Tongue Genitals

Mercury Prithvi Smell Nose Anus

 

Yamas: Organs of Action

Mouth- Satya (truthfulness) :Akash, Jupiter in the second makes a truthful

person

Hands- Asteya (non stealing): Vayu, Saturn and the sense of lack needed to

steal

Feet- Ahimsa (non-violence): Agni, Mars the violent planet

Genitals- Brahmacharya (continence): Jala, Venus the planet of sex

Anus- Aparigraha (Non grasping): Prithvi, Mercury the anal retentive Virgo

 

Niyamas: Organs of Sense

Ears- Ishvarapranidhana (surrender to Isvara): Akash, Jupiter is god in all

signs (prasna marga)

Skin- Svadhyaya (self study): Vayu, Saturn renouncing the outside to go

inside

Eyes- Tapas (austerity): Agni, Mars

Tongue- Santosh (contentment): Jala, Venus

Nose- Purity: Earth, Mercury

 

Patanjali goes on to state the siddhi from following the yama and niyama.

The siddhi of asteya (non-stealing) is no one can steal from you (protection

from Shani). If you practice ahimsa (non-violence) then nothing can harm you

(protection from Mars). etc. So In my reasoning, the yama and niyama are

Upaya for the imbalances of the panchatattva (Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Venus,

Mercury). By following the Yama and Niyama and Yogi transcends most negative

karmas found in the birthchart.

 

I'm interested in any thought out opinions.

 

Another question as well. Patanjali taught Ashtanga Yoga (8 limbed yoga). So

subtracting Ketu (kalachakra style) which planets rule which parts of the

eight limbs?

1.Yama

2. Niyama

3. Asana

4. Pranayam

5. Pratyahara

6. Dharana

7. Dhyana

8. Samadhi

 

Namah Sivaya

 

 

 

 

fls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego]

Saturday, November 29, 2003 1:36 AM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Karaka for Yama's: Moral codes of Conduct

 

OM Ram Rameshavaraya Namaha

 

Hello sisya's and Gurus.

As I look to the 5 key Yamas viz. ahimsa (non-violence), satya

(truthfulness), asteya (non-stealing, honesty), brahmacarya

(continence) and aparigraha (lack of greed)... is the Karaka for

these 5 Brihapsiti ( Guru) or is there an esculation to the 5 tatva

grahas?

Sun, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn? Venus not Sun for Panchatattva,

notice the Pancha Mahapurusha yogas do not include Sun or Moon.

 

any thoughts on this?

 

Pranams,

 

Frank in San Diego

 

 

 

 

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

 

 

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Dear Freedom,

 

I've read your post with great interest- thank you for quotes, I didn't have a chance to thing about this before.

But non-violence as an antidot for 'bad' Mars, non-stealing for theft,

or as you effectively summarized,

"So In my reasoning, the yama and niyama areUpaya for the imbalances of the panchatattva (Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Venus,Mercury). By following the Yama and Niyama and Yogi transcends most negativekarmas found in the birthchart.-came to right 'hands and ears'- when talking about Bible to my clients I used to say that God's words: don't steal, don't kill...etc.., are meant to protect us from the same evils.

bcs. 'similar simili gaudet' ili similar attracts similar. Again, with excitement I read the same thing excellently spelled out in divine science of Jyotish!

I have yet to see one who gained happiness on other's misery, and that's God's justice, I guess.

 

Freedom would you please reffer some readings on this, or - may I ask you?- if you have some e-files to share, I would greatly appreciate.

Regards,

Anna

-"Freedom" Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:24:21 +0530RE: |Sri Varaha| Karaka for Yama's: Moral codes of ConductHare Rama KrsnaI have thought about this as well, and debated with various Yogis, and foundno common agreement.But here is my thoughts and reasoning using Samkya philosophy.Jupiter Akash Sound Ears MouthSaturn Vayu Touch Skin HandsMars Agni Sight Eyes FeetVenus Jala Taste Tongue

GenitalsMercury Prithvi Smell Nose AnusYamas: Organs of ActionMouth- Satya (truthfulness) :Akash, Jupiter in the second makes a truthfulpersonHands- Asteya (non stealing): Vayu, Saturn and the sense of lack needed tostealFeet- Ahimsa (non-violence): Agni, Mars the violent planetGenitals- Brahmacharya (continence): Jala, Venus the planet of sexAnus- Aparigraha (Non grasping): Prithvi, Mercury the anal retentive VirgoNiyamas: Organs of SenseEars- Ishvarapranidhana (surrender to Isvara): Akash, Jupiter is god in allsigns (prasna marga)Skin- Svadhyaya (self study): Vayu, Saturn renouncing the outside to goinsideEyes- Tapas (austerity): Agni, MarsTongue- Santosh (contentment): Jala, VenusNose- Purity: Earth, MercuryPatanjali goes on to state the siddhi from following the yama and niyama.The siddhi of asteya (n

on-stealing) is no one can steal from you (protectionfrom Shani). If you practice ahimsa (non-violence) then nothing can harm you(protection from Mars). etc. So In my reasoning, the yama and niyama areUpaya for the imbalances of the panchatattva (Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Venus,Mercury). By following the Yama and Niyama and Yogi transcends most negativekarmas found in the birthchart.I'm interested in any thought out opinions.Another question as well. Patanjali taught Ashtanga Yoga (8 limbed yoga). Sosubtracting Ketu (kalachakra style) which planets rule which parts of theeight limbs?1.Yama2. Niyama3. Asana4. Pranayam5. Pratyahara6. Dharana7. Dhyana8. SamadhiNamah Sivayafls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego]Saturday, November 29, 2003 1:36 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Karaka for Yama's: Moral

codes of ConductOM Ram Rameshavaraya NamahaHello sisya's and Gurus.As I look to the 5 key Yamas viz. ahimsa (non-violence), satya(truthfulness), asteya (non-stealing, honesty), brahmacarya(continence) and aparigraha (lack of greed)... is the Karaka forthese 5 Brihapsiti ( Guru) or is there an esculation to the 5 tatvagrahas?Sun, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn? Venus not Sun for Panchatattva,notice the Pancha Mahapurusha yogas do not include Sun or Moon.any thoughts on this?Pranams,Frank in San Diego|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

[Guest guest]

No e-files, but just get a copy of Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras,

it is a classic work on Yoga, and there are many different translations. Its

not your modern yoga book as Patanjali also tells things like how to get siddhi

to know the position of all the planets and stars by meditating on the pole

star and things like this. Karen Skoler writes about the fundamentals in

Jyotish Digest some and lectured at the East Coast conference.

Namah Sivaya

 

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[jyotish108]

Tuesday, December 09, 2003

2:17 AM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Karaka

for Yama's: Moral codes of Conduct

 

Dear Freedom,

 

I've read

your post with great interest- thank you for quotes, I didn't have a chance to

thing about this before.

But

non-violence as an antidot for 'bad' Mars, non-stealing for theft,

or as you

effectively summarized,

" So In my reasoning, the yama and niyama are

Upaya for the imbalances of the panchatattva (Jupiter, Saturn, Mars,

Venus,

Mercury). By following the Yama and Niyama and Yogi transcends most

negative

karmas found in the birthchart.

-came to right 'hands and ears'- when talking about Bible to

my clients I used to say that God's words: don't steal, don't kill...etc.., are

meant to protect us from the same evils.

bcs. 'similar

simili gaudet' ili similar attracts similar. Again, with excitement I read the

same thing excellently spelled out in divine science of Jyotish!

I have yet to

see one who gained happiness on other's misery, and that's God's justice, I

guess.

 

Freedom would

you please reffer some readings on this, or - may I ask you?- if you have some

e-files to share, I would greatly appreciate.

Regards,

Anna

 

 

 

-

" Freedom "

Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:24:21 +0530

 

RE: |Sri Varaha| Karaka for Yama's: Moral codes of Conduct

 

Hare Rama Krsna

I have thought about this as well, and debated with various Yogis, and

found

no common agreement.

But here is my thoughts and reasoning using Samkya philosophy.

 

Jupiter Akash Sound

Ears Mouth

Saturn Vayu

Touch Skin

Hands

Mars Agni Sight

Eyes Feet

Venus Jala

Taste Tongue Genitals

Mercury Prithvi Smell

Nose Anus

 

Yamas: Organs of Action

Mouth- Satya (truthfulness) :Akash, Jupiter in the second makes a truthful

person

Hands- Asteya (non stealing): Vayu, Saturn and the sense of lack needed to

steal

Feet- Ahimsa (non-violence): Agni, Mars the violent planet

Genitals- Brahmacharya (continence): Jala, Venus the planet of sex

Anus- Aparigraha (Non grasping): Prithvi, Mercury the anal retentive Virgo

 

Niyamas: Organs of Sense

Ears- Ishvarapranidhana (surrender to Isvara): Akash, Jupiter is god in all

signs (prasna marga)

Skin- Svadhyaya (self study): Vayu, Saturn renouncing the outside to go

inside

Eyes- Tapas (austerity): Agni, Mars

Tongue- Santosh (contentment): Jala, Venus

Nose- Purity: Earth, Mercury

 

Patanjali goes on to state the siddhi from following the yama and niyama.

The siddhi of asteya (n on-stealing) is no one can steal from you

(protection

from Shani). If you practice ahimsa (non-violence) then nothing can harm

you

(protection from Mars). etc. So In my reasoning, the yama and niyama are

Upaya for the imbalances of the panchatattva (Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Venus,

Mercury). By following the Yama and Niyama and Yogi transcends most

negative

karmas found in the birthchart.

 

I'm interested in any thought out opinions.

 

Another question as well. Patanjali taught Ashtanga Yoga (8 limbed yoga).

So

subtracting Ketu (kalachakra style) which planets rule which parts of the

eight limbs?

1.Yama

2. Niyama

3. Asana

4. Pranayam

5. Pratyahara

6. Dharana

7. Dhyana

8. Samadhi

 

Namah Sivaya

 

 

 

 

fls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego]

Saturday, November 29, 2003 1:36 AM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Karaka for Yama's: Moral codes of Conduct

 

OM Ram Rameshavaraya Namaha

 

Hello sisya's and Gurus.

As I look to the 5 key Yamas viz. ahimsa (non-violence), satya

(truthfulness), asteya (non-stealing, honesty), brahmacarya

(continence) and aparigraha (lack of greed)... is the Karaka for

these 5 Brihapsiti ( Guru) or is there an esculation to the 5 tatva

grahas?

Sun, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn? Venus not Sun for Panchatattva,

notice the Pancha Mahapurusha yogas do not include Sun or Moon.

 

any thoughts on this?

 

Pranams,

 

Frank in San Diego

 

 

 

 

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namah Shivaya

 

Dear Freedom, Prashant, and all,

 

I have seen e-files on the web of the Yoga Sutras, but I would highly recommend getting the actual book. They are readily available and are many translations. I like the ones that have the Sanskrit , tranliteration, translation and then commentary for each verse. My personal favorite English translation is that my Swami Satchitananda. He has a marvelous way of expounding the aphorisms.

 

As a side note, I've been trying to locate Veda Vyasa's commentary on the Yoga Sutras, called the YogaBhasya. Can someone help me find it? You can write me privately.

 

Best Wishes,

Karen

 

-

Freedom

varahamihira

Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:46 AM

RE: |Sri Varaha| Karaka for Yama's: Moral codes of Conduct

 

 

No e-files, but just get a copy of Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras, it is a classic work on Yoga, and there are many different translations. Its not your modern yoga book as Patanjali also tells things like how to get siddhi to know the position of all the planets and stars by meditating on the pole star and things like this. Karen Skoler writes about the fundamentals in Jyotish Digest some and lectured at the East Coast conference.

Namah Sivaya