Guest guest Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Guru's and Learned Memebrs, Can you please tell me, with the following combination, in terms of one who 's interest and manifestations in the "Mantra Shastra". 0) Navamsa Lagna is Sc.1) Karakamsa (Sun) is Tula with 9th lord Moon and A9, A8 and Gulika2) Rahu and Mer are placed in Kumbha which is 5th house from Karamamsa3) Mars and Ketu are placed in Leo, which is 10th house in Navamsa.4) So Mars is having a Graha Dristhi on Rahu and Mer in Aq.5) Sa is in Pi, Jup is in Gem and Ve is in Vi.6) Rahu is having a graha drishti on * Sa (2nd) in Pi, * Ju(5th) and A5 in Gem * Ke, Ma(7th) in Leo * Mo and Su (9th) in Li The above combinations indicates to me that, this native have desire and will become knowledgable in "Mantra", "Tantra" and "Yantra" Shastra and will use his knolwedge for the good cause to the people. Please educate me on this and see any other points, I have not seen from this Navamsa Chart. RegardsRaghunadha Rao Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Nemani, I think one of the most important yoga for mantra, tantra and yatra expertise is to have malefics in trines to Atmakaaraka(Kaarakamsa) in Navamsa. There are four malefics i.e Mars, Saturn, Rahu & Ketu. 1 malefic mantra shastra 2 Tantra shastra(+Mantra) 3/4 Yantra Knowledge(+mantra+tantra) Refer to charts of Pt. Sanjay Rath, Tantric Chandraswamy, expert astrologers and also some spiritual peoples. -Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran varahamihira , Rao Nemani <raon1008> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Guru's and Learned Memebrs, > > Can you please tell me, with the following combination, in terms of one who 's interest and manifestations in the " Mantra Shastra " . > > 0) Navamsa Lagna is Sc. > 1) Karakamsa (Sun) is Tula with 9th lord Moon and A9, A8 and Gulika > 2) Rahu and Mer are placed in Kumbha which is 5th house from Karamamsa > 3) Mars and Ketu are placed in Leo, which is 10th house in Navamsa. > 4) So Mars is having a Graha Dristhi on Rahu and Mer in Aq. > 5) Sa is in Pi, Jup is in Gem and Ve is in Vi. > 6) Rahu is having a graha drishti on > * Sa (2nd) in Pi, > * Ju(5th) and A5 in Gem > * Ke, Ma(7th) in Leo > * Mo and Su (9th) in Li > > The above combinations indicates to me that, this native have desire and will become knowledgable in " Mantra " , " Tantra " and " Yantra " Shastra and will use his knolwedge for the good cause to the people. > > Please educate me on this and see any other points, I have not seen from this Navamsa Chart. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Hare Rama krishna, Namaste S. Prabhakaran Ji, Thank you for the principles and I have verified that on few charts and it makes sense to me now. Can you please clarify the following to me: 1) I was under impression that Mercury can be considered as a malefic if it is conjuct with another malefic. 2) Say for example, if Rahu and Mer are conjuct and they are in trines to Kaarakamsa, then can I say that this native has two malefics in trines or not. Thanks for your help in understanding this. Regards Raghunadha Rao varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Nemani, > I think one of the most important yoga for mantra, tantra and yatra > expertise is to have malefics in trines to Atmakaaraka(Kaarakamsa) in > Navamsa. There are four malefics i.e Mars, Saturn, Rahu & Ketu. > 1 malefic mantra shastra > 2 Tantra shastra(+Mantra) > 3/4 Yantra Knowledge(+mantra+tantra) > > Refer to charts of Pt. Sanjay Rath, Tantric Chandraswamy, expert > astrologers and also some spiritual peoples. > > -Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran > > varahamihira , Rao Nemani <raon1008> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Namaste Guru's and Learned Memebrs, > > > > Can you please tell me, with the following combination, in terms of > one who 's interest and manifestations in the " Mantra Shastra " . > > > > 0) Navamsa Lagna is Sc. > > 1) Karakamsa (Sun) is Tula with 9th lord Moon and A9, A8 and Gulika > > 2) Rahu and Mer are placed in Kumbha which is 5th house from > Karamamsa > > 3) Mars and Ketu are placed in Leo, which is 10th house in Navamsa. > > 4) So Mars is having a Graha Dristhi on Rahu and Mer in Aq. > > 5) Sa is in Pi, Jup is in Gem and Ve is in Vi. > > 6) Rahu is having a graha drishti on > > * Sa (2nd) in Pi, > > * Ju(5th) and A5 in Gem > > * Ke, Ma(7th) in Leo > > * Mo and Su (9th) in Li > > > > The above combinations indicates to me that, this native have > desire and will become knowledgable in " Mantra " , " Tantra " > and " Yantra " Shastra and will use his knolwedge for the good cause to > the people. > > > > Please educate me on this and see any other points, I have not seen > from this Navamsa Chart. > > > > Regards > > Raghunadha Rao > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Nemani ji, > 1) I was under impression that Mercury can be considered as > a malefic if it is conjuct with another malefic. I am not sure. I was just trying to reduce the possiblity of number of Tantric's around us Mercury is generally benefic and gets malefic only by association. And moon is also generally malefics. These inbetweens one's cannot give the knowledge with enough strength. Maybe give them half or quarter points just to give an idea. The planets in trines to atmakaaraka are under the control atmkaaraka. If malefics are under the control of atmakaarak. The atma does not try outright negative stuff. So if say mars is in trines the atma/person tries to over come violence with something more subtle like Mantra etc. The benefics aspect on Ak the person uses these for good purpose. (Ref:VRA/JUS) -Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna, Namaste S.Prabhakaran Ji and Guru's Thanks for your reply and I fully agree with you, except the fact that you have mentioned " There are four malefics i.e Mars, Saturn, Rahu & Ketu. " , which I am not able to verify from the Upa Dessa Sutras by Sanjay Ji. I was trying to get the reference for this,hence the delay in replying to you. Please clarify for me that based on " Upa Dessa Sutras Shlokas : 1.2.83 to 1.2.85 " it was not mentioned that Mercury is not a malefic. Also, with my little knowledge, Mercury can be considered as a malefic if it is conjuct with another malefic such as Rahu in this example. Now if I combine the above together with my original example (message # 11032, pasted below) , the native has 2 malefics are in trines with Karakamsa. At the same time these two malefics been aspected by a benefic Jupiter from Gemini indicates that the native's knoledge in Mantra and Tantra is used for Public Good. But at the same time, the native has Ketu and Ma in Leo and Mars will have a aspect on Rahu and Mercury, so what does it mean?. Please correct me if I am wrong and educate me. Regards Raghunadha Rao ====Message 11032 ===== Rao Nemani <raon1008> Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:34 am Mantra, Tantra and Yantra Shastra ? Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Guru's and Learned Memebrs, Can you please tell me, with the following combination, in terms of one who 's interest and manifestations in the " Mantra Shastra " . 0) Navamsa Lagna is Sc. 1) Karakamsa (Sun) is Tula with 9th lord Moon and A9, A8 and Gulika 2) Rahu and Mer are placed in Kumbha which is 5th house from Karamamsa 3) Mars and Ketu are placed in Leo, which is 10th house in Navamsa. 4) So Mars is having a Graha Dristhi on Rahu and Mer in Aq. 5) Sa is in Pi, Jup is in Gem and Ve is in Vi. 6) Rahu is having a graha drishti on * Sa (2nd) in Pi, * Ju(5th) and A5 in Gem * Ke, Ma(7th) in Leo * Mo and Su (9th) in Li The above combinations indicates to me that, this native have desire and will become knowledgable in " Mantra " , " Tantra " and " Yantra " Shastra and will use his knolwedge for the good cause to the people. Please educate me on this and see any other points, I have not seen from this Navamsa Chart. Regards Raghunadha Rao varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Nemani ji, > > > 1) I was under impression that Mercury can be considered as > > a malefic if it is conjuct with another malefic. > > I am not sure. I was just trying to reduce the possiblity of number > of Tantric's around us > Mercury is generally benefic and gets malefic only by association. > And moon is also generally malefics. These inbetweens one's cannot > give the knowledge with enough strength. Maybe give them half or > quarter points just to give an idea. > The planets in trines to atmakaaraka are under the control > atmkaaraka. If malefics are under the control of atmakaarak. The atma > does not try outright negative stuff. So if say mars is in trines the > atma/person tries to over come violence with something more subtle > like Mantra etc. > The benefics aspect on Ak the person uses these for good purpose. > (Ref:VRA/JUS) > > -Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Hare Rama Krsna For this shloka we are looking at the natural significations of planets not fuctional. Mercury is a natural benefic and for this rule it doesn't matter if it is functionally malefic. The four planets mentioned by Sanjay P will alone be considered malefics for shloka 1.2.83 and 1.2.85. When there are benefics present you have too much bagya (good luck) to need intensive tantra, yantra, mantra techniques, which are more 'malefic' ways of getting what you want. Instead traditional 'benefic' spiritual practice will bring all the fruits needed with benefics in trine to karakamsa. Learn the Mahavidyas connected to each planet (p47 Vedic Remedies) to understand this concept deeper. Namah Sivaya Rao Nemani [raon1008] Friday, December 05, 2003 5:43 PM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Mantra, Tantra and Yantra Shastra ? Hare Rama Krishna, Namaste S.Prabhakaran Ji and Guru's Thanks for your reply and I fully agree with you, except the fact that you have mentioned " There are four malefics i.e Mars, Saturn, Rahu & Ketu. " , which I am not able to verify from the Upa Dessa Sutras by Sanjay Ji. I was trying to get the reference for this,hence the delay in replying to you. Please clarify for me that based on " Upa Dessa Sutras Shlokas : 1.2.83 to 1.2.85 " it was not mentioned that Mercury is not a malefic. Also, with my little knowledge, Mercury can be considered as a malefic if it is conjuct with another malefic such as Rahu in this example. Now if I combine the above together with my original example (message # 11032, pasted below) , the native has 2 malefics are in trines with Karakamsa. At the same time these two malefics been aspected by a benefic Jupiter from Gemini indicates that the native's knoledge in Mantra and Tantra is used for Public Good. But at the same time, the native has Ketu and Ma in Leo and Mars will have a aspect on Rahu and Mercury, so what does it mean?. Please correct me if I am wrong and educate me. Regards Raghunadha Rao ====Message 11032 ===== Rao Nemani <raon1008> Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:34 am Mantra, Tantra and Yantra Shastra ? Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Guru's and Learned Memebrs, Can you please tell me, with the following combination, in terms of one who 's interest and manifestations in the " Mantra Shastra " . 0) Navamsa Lagna is Sc. 1) Karakamsa (Sun) is Tula with 9th lord Moon and A9, A8 and Gulika 2) Rahu and Mer are placed in Kumbha which is 5th house from Karamamsa 3) Mars and Ketu are placed in Leo, which is 10th house in Navamsa. 4) So Mars is having a Graha Dristhi on Rahu and Mer in Aq. 5) Sa is in Pi, Jup is in Gem and Ve is in Vi. 6) Rahu is having a graha drishti on * Sa (2nd) in Pi, * Ju(5th) and A5 in Gem * Ke, Ma(7th) in Leo * Mo and Su (9th) in Li The above combinations indicates to me that, this native have desire and will become knowledgable in " Mantra " , " Tantra " and " Yantra " Shastra and will use his knolwedge for the good cause to the people. Please educate me on this and see any other points, I have not seen from this Navamsa Chart. Regards Raghunadha Rao varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Nemani ji, > > > 1) I was under impression that Mercury can be considered as > > a malefic if it is conjuct with another malefic. > > I am not sure. I was just trying to reduce the possiblity of number > of Tantric's around us > Mercury is generally benefic and gets malefic only by association. > And moon is also generally malefics. These inbetweens one's cannot > give the knowledge with enough strength. Maybe give them half or > quarter points just to give an idea. > The planets in trines to atmakaaraka are under the control > atmkaaraka. If malefics are under the control of atmakaarak. The atma > does not try outright negative stuff. So if say mars is in trines the > atma/person tries to over come violence with something more subtle > like Mantra etc. > The benefics aspect on Ak the person uses these for good purpose. > (Ref:VRA/JUS) > > -Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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