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Dear Freedom,

I did smile for a second and than became serious...

Freedom is the highest desire for millions (maybe billions) of people round

the world.

To be named and use the name of 'Freedom' is (in my opinion) very

auspicious.

However to use the Internet 'freedom' to spread all kind of " s.....t "

(excuse the " ... " ) is another story.

 

Be proud Freedom!

 

Regards

/Jay Weiss

http://www.alvicomm.com

 

-

" Freedom " <freedom

<varahamihira >

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:52 PM

RE: |Sri Varaha| #2 The old king in new cloth (Ishta Devata) ?

 

 

>

>

> " freedom " on the net!!!! What dirt are you trying to talk on me Jay. Just

> joking:)

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> Just noting that in Chandrakalanadi the 12th house to the karakamsa is

> called jivanmuktamsa. Jiva is soul, mukta is liberation, amsa is division.

> It is the division that indicates how /where the soul will get moksa. We

are

> taken to moksa by the Ishta.

> Also the 9th house from karakamsa is called viGYanamsa. viGYana is higher

> wisdom. So it is the amsa of higher wisdon/learning which we are guided to

> by Dharma devata.

> Namah Sivaya

> Freedom

>

>

> J.-Weiss [jayhw]

> Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:17 PM

> varahamihira

> Re: |Sri Varaha| #2 The old king in new cloth (Ishta Devata) ?

>

> Dear Nitin,

>

> Yes, it surprised me too, which was the reason I brought it up.

> I simply don't understand how one can place such a generalized stuff on

the

> net as it does more harm than good...

> Well, I guess thats the price of " freedom " on the net ...

>

> Kind regards

> /Jay Weiss

> http://www.alvicomm.com

>

>

>

> -

> " Nitin Khanna " <sjvc

> <varahamihira >

> Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:57 AM

> |Sri Varaha| #2 The old king in new cloth (Ishta Devata) ?

>

>

> > |Jai Durga Maa|

> >

> > Dear Jay,

> >

> > I was a little surprised by how generic this method is. Equally generic

> are are readings here. If we are to go by this method, then consider the

> possibility that time stands still on particular days, and the dynamism of

> the Stars are frozen.

> >

> > If we are in agreement to the above, then the calculation of the Navamsa

> and the planets reflected therein would be identical to all.

> >

> > Consider December 29, 2003 in Wayne, NJ, USA.

> >

> > CHART I

> > Time: 12AM

> >

> > 1) A chart with birth time at 12AM has the AtmaKaraka as Moon

> > Moon is in Gemini Navamsa.

> >

> > 2) 12th from Moon is Ketu / Venus in Taurus, in the Navamsa.

> >

> > 3) As per the principles I have understood, the Ishta would be symbollic

> of the combination listed in (2).

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > CHART II

> >

> > 1) A chart with birth time at 12PM has the AtMakaKaraka as Jupiter.

> > Jupiter is in Scorpio Navamsa.

> >

> > 2) 12th from Jupiter has Libra, with no planet in it in the Navamsa.

> >

> > 3) As per the principles I have understood, the Ishta would be symbollic

> of the combination listed in (2).

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > Tha Jaimini Sutras are very deep and the introductory chapters even

> outline why the verses are in the number of lines they are, amongst other

> subtleties.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > The Ishta is at the level of the SOUL....... that what has been

described

> on the site is on the mundane level (similar to the experiences of the

> Lagnesh / and perhaps the Moon.)

> >

> >

> > Just for fun (others may ignore, if not in a humorous mood)...

> >

> > The Ishta as revealted to me is Jupiter in my Navamsa.

> >

> > Let's see how the reading spans out for me?

> > (I thought more on the philosophy behind these, rather than the

> interpretations. I'm sure the author may be hinting at some buried

> principles, bur could not conclude anything...)

> >

> > (I was born April 25, and Durga Ma is the one to grant me emancipation,

> according to the site)

> >

> > You like to shop a great deal and specifically look for bargains.

> > [Nope. Rahu in 12th makes me an impulsive spender]

> >

> > You are a great cook and will make a great chef .

> > [i am not a great cook. I am still living a bachelor's life, and will

> probably not make a great chef.]

> >

> > Any dishes prepared by you will be tasty.

> > [sure, when I prepare them.... :P]

> >

> > You are advised to always serve food to reap good karmas.

> > [i am currently homeless, under the protecition of my relatives. When I

> get my kitchen, you are welcome for a meal.]

> >

> > Anyone who visits your home and are fed will bless you with prosperity.

> > [i hope so. More so is the hope that even those who I cannot feed will

> bless me.

> >

> > I am reminded of Shri Krishna who had half a grain of rice and fed the

> world, on Draupadi's request. The other half fed some Sadhus who were

> invited for a meal.

> >

> > Nowhere am I compared to this, but I still hope.

> > :P

> >

> >

> > You do not like to deal with work that involves much calculations.

> > [My work doesn't involve much calculations, and hence I cannot comment.

> Yes, though, math is not the strongest of skills I have.]

> >

> > You have a kind heart and are very helpful (sometimes too much).

> > [Everyone on this list has a kind heart, according to me. Sometimes too

> much -- yes. Can be said for all.]

> >

> > Others may take advantage of your kindness.

> > [Anyone can take advantage of one's kindness. People who have Rahu as

> AtmaKaraka can probably attest to this.]

> >

> > You are a very religious person.

> > [No, I am not religious. I consider myself deeply spiritual.]

> >

> > You have a great voice and may become a famous singer.

> > [My AtmaKaraka is Mercury, with Ketu in the 6th House of Pisces (mute

> sign). I have little vaach siddhi, and don't talk much. I don't have the

> pitch, intonation, frequency or other things I could consider for a good

> voice. Yes, I may become a famous singer. So could you(?)]

> >

> > Marriage may become difficult as a result of illicit affairs.

> > [illicit Affairs = 0. Affairs = 0. Illicit = 0. My Baadhak is in the 7th

> House, and Venus afflicted. Is the latter a better reason for a bachelor

> getting jittery on the prospect of marriage? I'm hinting at other

principles

> to decipher these, and not just the date of one's birth...]

> >

> >

> > You can receive a great deal of love...but cannot give it.

> > [How does one define love? I do receive a great deal of love. It is from

> the angels who sit on my shoulders the Gurus who bless me with their light

> and fellow mankind. I try to reciprocate this.....]

> >

> > You are not romantic but like to be romanced.

> > [i am very romantic, but don't play it out. I have A7 in 8th from AL.

> > I am uncomfortable with dating.]

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Nitin.

> > :>

> >

> > |Namah Shivaaya|

> >

> >

> > --

> > " J.-Weiss " <jayhw

> > varahamihira

> > Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:14:25 +0100

> >

> > >--

> >

> > >Dear all,

> > >

> > >Sanjay taught us about Ishta Devata in a very clear way.

> > >Suddenly, I find the following site on the net, which basic concept of

> Ishta Devata is a complete deferent story.

> > >There is a Ishta Devata concept for 'day lord', 'house numbers' etc.

> > >

> > >Can any of the learned members take a look at

> http://www.swamiram.com/birthlord.html and comment on this ?

> > >

> > >Regards

> > >/Jay Weiss

> > >http://www.alvicomm.com

> >

> >

> > |Om Tat Sat|

> > http://www.varahamihira

> >

> >

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