Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 Does that mean that KK in Navamsa Lagna or Kendra to Navamsa lagna show that the person comes from a ‘royal’ family or is that pushing Jaimini to far? Namah Sivaya Sanjay Rath [srath] Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:04 AM varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Jeevamuktamsa and lagnamsa -to nitish ::Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: Dear Freedom, Your views are appreciated. The translation is a bit off mark and that is why the problem in the interpretation. The word used in the shloka by Parasara is 'prajaayate' which is derived from the word 'prajaa'. This means procreation , propagation , birth, offspring , children , family , race , posterity , descendants etc and refers to the birth in a royal family or belonging to a royal lineage or such big family in the locality. Jaimini supports this view of Parasara where he states that the Atmakaraka in navamsa lagna i.e. Karakamsa being the same as Lagnamsa confirms birth in a royal family. Thus, the simple translation given is objected to as although it indicates rajayoga, but the actual reference is to the birth in a royal or big family that promises a good childhood. Lagnamsa shows that which the native will achieve by virtue of his abilities. More on this in the Rajayoga workshop. But suffice is to say that the translation given is not clear and does not reflect the full purport of the statement of Parasara. Best Regards, Sanjay Rath SJC-Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri -752001, India ----------------------------OM TAT SAT--------------------------- - Freedom varahamihira Sunday, December 28, 2003 3:49 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Jeevamuktamsa and lagnamsa -to nitish Hare Rama Krsna I do not have a copy of Deva Keralam with me in my present location, but Parashara does mention in his chapter on Raja yogas vs 22 of Santhanam’s translation: If the AK is in a benefic’s Rasi/Navamsa, the native will be wealthy. If there are benefics in angles from Karakamsa Lagna, he will become a king. subharaashoa shubhaaMshe cha kaarako dhanavaan bhavet. tadaMshakendreShu shubhe nuunaM raajaa prajaayate..22.. If this aplies to Karakamsa why not similar in the lagnamsa,as the person will have a preference for kingly things in their life, or high standards those areas of life (kendra). The lagnamsa shows the preferences/choices, won’t these lead one to make choices to lead one to be like a king (if the planets have strength). Why does Parashara put so much emphasis on kendra in general? Namah Sivaya Freedom Sanjay Rath [srath] Saturday, December 27, 2003 6:48 PM varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Jeevamuktamsa and lagnamsa -to nitish ::Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya:: Dear Freedom Can I have the references in the deva keralam that says that venus placed in quadrants to Lagnamsa (i.e. in the navamsas of signs that are in kendra to lagna of Rasi chart) gives a rajyoga. Is this for all Lagna and all nadiamsa? Will any planet occupying an angular position instead of Venus bring rajayoga as mentioned in the mail? I wonder really. I thought it just shows the preferences. Take an example - Aries Lagna with Sun in Aries in Rasi and Libra in navamsa..will this bring rajyoga or the reverse? So, we are to consider the status and yogas as well. Now, will any planet in a kendra tulya amsa indicate the rajayoga or does it just show the preferences of the native. If you can give the quote from Deva keralam, we can analyse it here. Best Regards, Sanjay Rath SJC-Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri -752001, India ----------------------------OM TAT SAT--------------------------- - Freedom varahamihira Friday, December 26, 2003 12:53 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Jeevamuktamsa and lagnamsa -to nitish General rule: " With reference to the soul, we analyze the Karakamsa Lagna of the native. With reference to the intellect, we analyze the Navamsa Lagna of the native " This is the primary thing to look at in the navamsa. Abilities are in relation to intellect so we use navamsa lagna. Ista is in reference to the soul so we use Karakamsa. We don't need to be jeevamuktas to see the chart from the karakamsa. The soul is always guiding, we all have souls. Thoughts arise in the mind from much deeper. The body is the chariot, Arjuna is the mind and Krsna is the soul. Worship of the ishta is allowing Krsna to guide. You don't need to be jeevamukta to use the ista in the jeevamuktamsa, you use the ista to get to jeevamuktamsa. The Ista mantra is the invocation of the jeevamuktamsa. Notice also that the Ista mantras Sanjay recommended in the west coast conferences in 2002 are all dwadakshari (12 syllable), so they are activating the 12th house from karakamsa. You asked about 12th from D-1 Lagnesh in Navamsa, this is not generally used. The D-1 lagnesh is used in the Navamsa is like any other planet. For example, in my chart Mercury is lagnesh. It is placed in Aquarius in my navamsa. Aquarius is my Rasi 9th house, so Mercury will have a strong effect on 9th house activities, my father is a businessman. Moon is in Leo in my navamsa, which is the 3rd house in my rasi, this means Moon will have a strong effect on the 3rd house, my younger brother works in the healing/medical profession. Notice that this technique effects the karakas. We can also use the signs to see how a planet is affecting our own life. My Mercury is in Virgo in the Rasi, and in Aquarius in the Navamsa, this is 6 signs away. So I will get 6th house results in the Mahadasa of Mercury. Moon is in Aries in Rasi and Leo in Navamsa, 5 signs away, so I will get 5th house results in Moon Mahadasa, (and let me tell you, I'm running Moon:). More important than 12th from D-1 lagnesh in D-9 is 12th house from the D-1 lagna in D-9 which is called Vyayamsa. This is a general view point from lagnamsa. LAGNAMSA (D-1 lagna in Navamsa) The lagnamsa will show the direction of intelligence, what you prefer, and your choices, ie. Jupiter in daramsa will make a person prefer an educated spouse, saturn in sukhamsa will make a person prefer or like old houses. We can analyze the lagnamsa with reference to the purva punya. A planet in the lagnamsa will have a strong stamp on a person, a planet in daramsa will have a strong influence on one's partner. What this stamp is must be seen from the D-60 (not D-9). The main house to see is the 2nd from the lagnamsa. It will show the direction of your dhi relative to karmas (works done in this world). Jaimini says that lagnamsa in the 11th house will lead a person to moksa (because 12th is 2nd). Lagnamsa in 10th makes a person always focused on gains, lagnamsa in 9th makes a person always focused on work. We look at 2nd because it is 10th from the 5th. This is from Sanjay's lecture on Navamsa at the 2003 ACVA Conference in Sedona, Arizona. Tapes available from ACVA. 2.2 Rasi Tulya Navamsa (bhava-amsa) Rasi-tulya navamsa is also called Bhava sucaka navamsa and it's the navamsa chart as perceived from the Rasi lagna. If the native has Pisces Lagna, then we would see the position of the planets in navamsa with reference to Pisces Lagna. The above classification has been used freely in Dhruva Nadi. A different classification has been used in Deva Keralam. In this classification more emphasis has been laid on presence of planets in kendra and kona. Some examples from Deva Keralam: 1. If navamsa rasi of Venus falls in Kendra in rasi chart, a kind of Raja-Yoga is formed. 2. A planet occupying an angular navamsa will bring royal authority. This classification is very important and useful in judging Raja-Yogas and worth of a chart. If more planets fall in Bhagyamsa (9th), Karmamsa (10th), Labhamsa (11th), Lagnamsa (1st) or Sukhamsa (4th, the native leads a happy and prosperous life. Conversely if more planets occupy Shashtamsa (6th), Nidhanamsa (8th) or Vyayamsa (12th) the native may confront many difficulties in life. Namah Sivaya -----Original Message----- Nitish Arya [yeeahoo_99] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:57 PM To: varahamihira Cc: dubey_keshav Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| #2 The old king in new cloth (Ishta Devata) ? - to freedom Dear freedom, Thanks for quoting from Chandrakalanadi. I have a question from you. What do u think about the 12th house from the position of D-1 ascendant lord in D-9? What importance/use does it have, in comparison to 12th from karakamsa in deciding the direction of life of a native, while we are still not jeevanmuktas (say, 90%+ people of the world)? If you explain with an example, it will be a great help to my understanding. regards, nitish |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Groups Links · To visit your group on the web, go to: varahamihira/ · To from this group, send an email to: varahamihira- · Your use of is subject to the |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Groups Links · To visit your group on the web, go to: varahamihira/ · To from this group, send an email to: varahamihira- · Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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