Mantra for planet in maranasthana

January 28, 2004

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening of a planet in

maranasthana?

For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara mantra?

How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th, should a 8 akshara

mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for this specific

purpose be used?

How to choose between prescription of mantra or gem for planet in

maranasthana?

If somebody can explain with examples (and observed effects) that

would be great.

thanks and regards

Hari

February 2, 2004

Hare Rama Krsna

For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas like

JuM. You can use the various forms of Shiva accordingly to the graha.

For example a good one for Venus is

Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

Its important to keep in mind:

1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for person

born in the day time.

Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is born in

the night.

Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at night

Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day birth

then short tempered and will be easily defeated

Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night- malefics

are stronger

Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night because

he is strong in both.

2. Sometimes maranakarakasthana is good. If the planet is inimical to

the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a Jupiter Rahu

conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it has less

power to harm.

3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

Namah Sivaya

Freedom

onlyhari [onlyhari]

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening of a planet in

maranasthana?

For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara mantra?

How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th, should a 8 akshara

mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for this specific

purpose be used?

How to choose between prescription of mantra or gem for planet in

maranasthana?

If somebody can explain with examples (and observed effects) that

would be great.

thanks and regards

Hari

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 4, 2004

|Namah Shivaaya|

Dear Freedom,

Thank you for sharing your experience and learning with us. A most intriguing

post, indeed.

BTW, I was wondering if Visti has been able to get online? The beacon of

knowledge is probably busy learning more, and enjoying the time in Puri, but do

say my hello to him.

His other students are missing him as well.

Take care.

Nitin.

:>

--

" Freedom " <freedom

varahamihira

Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:05:37 +0530

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>Hare Rama Krsna

>

>For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas like

>JuM. You can use the various forms of Shiva accordingly to the graha.

>For example a good one for Venus is

>Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

>Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

>

>Its important to keep in mind:

>1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for person

>born in the day time.

>Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is born in

>the night.

>Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

>brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

>Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at night

>Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day birth

>then short tempered and will be easily defeated

>

>Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night- malefics

>are stronger

>

>Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night because

>he is strong in both.

>

>2. Sometimes maranakarakasthana is good. If the planet is inimical to

>the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a Jupiter Rahu

>conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it has less

>power to harm.

>

>3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

>neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

>

>Namah Sivaya

>Freedom

>

>onlyhari [onlyhari]

>Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

>varahamihira

>|Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

>||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

>Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

>

>How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening of a planet in

>maranasthana?

>

>For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara mantra?

>How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th, should a 8 akshara

>mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for this specific

>purpose be used?

>

>How to choose between prescription of mantra or gem for planet in

>maranasthana?

>

>If somebody can explain with examples (and observed effects) that

>would be great.

>

>thanks and regards

>Hari

>

>|Om Tat Sat|

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February 4, 2004

||Om Namah Shivaaya|| ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Freedom,

Namaste.

Thank you for sharing your inputs. I saw your website recently and

liked the photos! (BTW: I also saw the photos from the Hyderabad

conference; when are the photos from the Puri conference going to be

uploaded? I heard that the copper plate readings were very good; can

anyone who attended share their experiences?)

Now a few questions:

(1)Yes, life-reinvigorating mantras should be chosen. Apart from

Jyotirlingas, can any other form of Deva/Devi be chosen?

(2) You seem to imply there is no correlation between the

maranakarakasthana position and the choice of mantra. Lets take your

example for Venus: Om Namah Shivaaya Tryambakaya Haum Jum Sah which

has 13 aksharas or goes into lagna. But maranakarakasthana for Venus

is the 6th house so should we not design the mantra that goes into

the 6th house (5 aksharas or 12n + 5)?

Rest of your points are really good food for thought. Will ponder

about this and revert.

regards

Hari

varahamihira , " Freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas

like

> JuM. You can use the various forms of Shiva accordingly to the

graha.

> For example a good one for Venus is

> Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

> Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

>

> Its important to keep in mind:

> 1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for

person

> born in the day time.

> Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is

born in

> the night.

> Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

> brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

> Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at

night

> Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day

birth

> then short tempered and will be easily defeated

>

> Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night-

malefics

> are stronger

>

> Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night

because

> he is strong in both.

>

> 2. Sometimes maranakarakasthana is good. If the planet is inimical

to

> the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a

Jupiter Rahu

> conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it

has less

> power to harm.

>

> 3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

> neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

>

> Namah Sivaya

> Freedom

February 4, 2004

Dear Hari,

Just a word- Venus MKS is 6thH, in reference to Lagna- so we do have the right connection here- MKS FROM Lagna- so ak's go to the right place-Lagna-

my understanding, anyway

Cheers,

Anna-"onlyhari" Wed, 04 Feb 2004 03:32:28 -0000varahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana||Om Namah Shivaaya|| ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Freedom,Namaste.Thank you for sharing your inputs. I saw your website recently and liked the photos! (BTW: I also saw the photos from the Hyderabad conference; when are the photos from the Puri conference going to be uploaded? I heard that the copper plate readings were very good; can anyone who attended share their experiences?)Now a few questions:(1)Yes, life-reinvigorating mantras should be chosen. Apart from Jyotirlingas, can any other form of Deva/Devi be chosen?(2) You seem to imply there is no correlation between the maranakarakasthana position and the choice of mantra. Lets take your example for Venus: Om Namah

Shivaaya Tryambakaya Haum Jum Sah which has 13 aksharas or goes into lagna. But maranakarakasthana for Venus is the 6th house so should we not design the mantra that goes into the 6th house (5 aksharas or 12n + 5)?Rest of your points are really good food for thought. Will ponder about this and revert.regardsHarivarahamihira , "Freedom" <freedom@s...> wrote:> Hare Rama Krsna> > For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas like> JuM. You can use the various forms of Shiva accordingly to the graha.> For example a good one for Venus is > Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah> Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.> > Its important to keep in mind:> 1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for person> born in the day time.> Night strong planets maran

akarakasthana are not bad if person is born in> the night. > Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one> brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)> Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at night> Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day birth> then short tempered and will be easily defeated> > Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night- malefics> are stronger> > Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night because> he is strong in both.> > 2. Sometimes maranakarakasthana is good. If the planet is inimical to> the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a Jupiter Rahu> conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it has less> power to harm. > > 3. Debilitated mara

nakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,> neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.> > Namah Sivaya> Freedom|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

February 5, 2004

Hare Rama Krsna

Yes, I agree a mantra with the correct number of aksharas would be best.

The best deva is Shiva for life rejuvenation, particulary Mritanjaya

Shiva. There are no set mantras, one is expected to derive them

accordingly. Maybe if we ask nicely, Sarbani would be able to give us

the correct syllable mantras for Shiva with JuM bija of all the

Maranakaraka sthana positions. She is the master when it comes to mantra

shastra.

Namah Sivaya

onlyhari [onlyhari]

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:02 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

||Om Namah Shivaaya|| ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Freedom,

Namaste.

Thank you for sharing your inputs. I saw your website recently and

liked the photos! (BTW: I also saw the photos from the Hyderabad

conference; when are the photos from the Puri conference going to be

uploaded? I heard that the copper plate readings were very good; can

anyone who attended share their experiences?)

Now a few questions:

(1)Yes, life-reinvigorating mantras should be chosen. Apart from

Jyotirlingas, can any other form of Deva/Devi be chosen?

(2) You seem to imply there is no correlation between the

maranakarakasthana position and the choice of mantra. Lets take your

example for Venus: Om Namah Shivaaya Tryambakaya Haum Jum Sah which

has 13 aksharas or goes into lagna. But maranakarakasthana for Venus

is the 6th house so should we not design the mantra that goes into

the 6th house (5 aksharas or 12n + 5)?

Rest of your points are really good food for thought. Will ponder

about this and revert.

regards

Hari

varahamihira , " Freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas

like

> JuM. You can use the various forms of Shiva accordingly to the

graha.

> For example a good one for Venus is

> Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

> Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

>

> Its important to keep in mind:

> 1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for

person

> born in the day time.

> Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is

born in

> the night.

> Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

> brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

> Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at

night

> Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day

birth

> then short tempered and will be easily defeated

>

> Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night-

malefics

> are stronger

>

> Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night

because

> he is strong in both.

>

> 2. Sometimes maranakarakasthana is good. If the planet is inimical

to

> the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a

Jupiter Rahu

> conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it

has less

> power to harm.

>

> 3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

> neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

>

> Namah Sivaya

> Freedom

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 6, 2004

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Lets see...how do I ask Sarbani ever so nicely...here goes...

Sarbani-ji,

Please teach me mantra shastra starting with this one...I have tons

of time owing due to 10th house activities being free for the time

being (my contract ended yesterday).

regards

Hari

varahamihira , " Freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> Yes, I agree a mantra with the correct number of aksharas would be

best.

> The best deva is Shiva for life rejuvenation, particulary

Mritanjaya

> Shiva. There are no set mantras, one is expected to derive them

> accordingly. Maybe if we ask nicely, Sarbani would be able to give

us

> the correct syllable mantras for Shiva with JuM bija of all the

> Maranakaraka sthana positions. She is the master when it comes to

mantra

> shastra.

>

> Namah Sivaya

February 7, 2004

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Hari,

Just coming back to Brunei after my brother's marriage. The remedy for

the marana avastha, as mentioned by freedom is any shiva mantra as he

can grant life as happened in the case of Rsi Markendeya. Jyotirlingams

are supposed to grant life and hence chanting the Jyotirlingam mantras

can help cancelling the Marana avastha of the planets by giving it the

strength of exaltation. In my opinion, you need not bother about the

syllables of the mantra, only doing the Jyotirlingam mantra for Sun

shall help.

Best Wishes

Sararjit

Freedom [freedom]

Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:01 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

Hare Rama Krsna

Yes, I agree a mantra with the correct number of aksharas would be best.

The best deva is Shiva for life rejuvenation, particulary Mritanjaya

Shiva. There are no set mantras, one is expected to derive them

accordingly. Maybe if we ask nicely, Sarbani would be able to give us

the correct syllable mantras for Shiva with JuM bija of all the

Maranakaraka sthana positions. She is the master when it comes to mantra

shastra.

Namah Sivaya

onlyhari [onlyhari]

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:02 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

||Om Namah Shivaaya|| ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Freedom,

Namaste.

Thank you for sharing your inputs. I saw your website recently and

liked the photos! (BTW: I also saw the photos from the Hyderabad

conference; when are the photos from the Puri conference going to be

uploaded? I heard that the copper plate readings were very good; can

anyone who attended share their experiences?)

Now a few questions:

(1)Yes, life-reinvigorating mantras should be chosen. Apart from

Jyotirlingas, can any other form of Deva/Devi be chosen?

(2) You seem to imply there is no correlation between the

maranakarakasthana position and the choice of mantra. Lets take your

example for Venus: Om Namah Shivaaya Tryambakaya Haum Jum Sah which

has 13 aksharas or goes into lagna. But maranakarakasthana for Venus

is the 6th house so should we not design the mantra that goes into

the 6th house (5 aksharas or 12n + 5)?

Rest of your points are really good food for thought. Will ponder

about this and revert.

regards

Hari

varahamihira , " Freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas

like

> JuM. You can use the various forms of Shiva accordingly to the

graha.

> For example a good one for Venus is

> Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

> Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

>

> Its important to keep in mind:

> 1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for

person

> born in the day time.

> Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is

born in

> the night.

> Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

> brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

> Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at

night

> Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day

birth

> then short tempered and will be easily defeated

>

> Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night-

malefics

> are stronger

>

> Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night

because

> he is strong in both.

>

> 2. Sometimes maranakarakasthana is good. If the planet is inimical

to

> the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a

Jupiter Rahu

> conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it

has less

> power to harm.

>

> 3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

> neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

>

> Namah Sivaya

> Freedom

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 8, 2004

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Freedom,

I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb MKA planet is good.

What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this is the most weakest

position of the planet and the houses ruled are not spared, even a

little bit. This is the most dangerous position, unless there is

cancellation of debilitation.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Freedom [freedom]

Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

Hare Rama Krsna

For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas like

JuM. You can use the various forms of Shiva accordingly to the graha.

For example a good one for Venus is

Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

Its important to keep in mind:

1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for person

born in the day time.

Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is born in

the night.

Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at night

Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day birth

then short tempered and will be easily defeated

Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night- malefics

are stronger

Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night because

he is strong in both.

2. Sometimes maranakarakasthana is good. If the planet is inimical to

the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a Jupiter Rahu

conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it has less

power to harm.

3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

Namah Sivaya

Freedom

onlyhari [onlyhari]

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening of a planet in

maranasthana?

For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara mantra?

How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th, should a 8 akshara

mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for this specific

purpose be used?

How to choose between prescription of mantra or gem for planet in

maranasthana?

If somebody can explain with examples (and observed effects) that

would be great.

thanks and regards

Hari

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 8, 2004

Dear Sarajit,

While what you wrote here- that debilitation further weakens the planet in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly logical and clear to me,

I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment of a planet in MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that right? Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition? Thanks.

Warmest wishes,

Anna-"Sarajit Poddar" Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:23:30 +0800RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Freedom,I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb MKA planet is good.What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this is the most weakestposition of the planet and the houses ruled are not spared, even alittle bit. This is the most dangerous position, unless there iscancellation of debilitation.Best WishesSarajitFreedom [freedom] Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthanaHare Rama KrsnaFor Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas likeJuM. You can use t

he various forms of Shiva accordingly to the graha.For example a good one for Venus is Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum SahOthers can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.Its important to keep in mind:1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for personborn in the day time.Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is born inthe night. Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make onebrilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at nightMangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day birththen short tempered and will be easily defeatedThose born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night- maleficsare strongerMercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night becausehe is strong in both.2. Sometimes maranakarakastha

na is good. If the planet is inimical tothe lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a Jupiter Rahuconj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it has lesspower to harm. 3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.Namah SivayaFreedomonlyhari [onlyhari] Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening of a planet in maranasthana?For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara mantra? How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th, should a 8 akshara mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for this specific purpose be used?How to choose between prescription of mantra or gem for planet in maranasthana?If somebody can explain with examples (and observed effects) that would be great.thanks and regardsHari|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

February 8, 2004

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Anna,

Exaltation of the MKA planets reduces the

blemish to a large extent, however that’s not all. We need to see all the

source of the strengths to see the manifestation of the Marana Avasta at a particular arena of life. Exaltation and

debilitation are only positional strengths and this shows that MKA planet shall

not adversely affect the status/ position of the native. Please read my article

on shadbala for interpretation of other sources of

strengths. What Freedom wrote in one mail about the day and night strength is

the kala bala and has to be

interpreted little differently. So the bottomline is

that, we need to find out what are the sources of strength of the MKA planet

and those areas shall be spared.

I am some more views on MKA planets, which

I do not know whether approved by Sanjayji. However, just

for sharing and more deliberations on the topic, I shall write it down. Like Debiltation, MKA is a source of weakness to a planet.

However the difference is that, while debilitation has to do with different

signs, MKA has to do with different houses. As the strength of the dispositor

becomes important in the former case, I would tend to think that the strength

of the karaka becomes important to the Planets in the MKA. We know that if

Saturn is well placed in Kendra to lagna/ moon;

exalted in the Navamsa, the debilitation of Jupiter

is cancelled. We see here that, although Saturn is the cause of debilitation of

Jupiter, it has the key to cancel the debilitation too. Hence if Jup is deb, strengthening Saturn

could be one of the solution to cancel the debility of

Jup. However, if Jupiter is in MKA in the 3rd

house, it shall be so, irrespective of the sign where it is placed. However, as

houses are involved here, karaka takes the precedence compared to the

dispositor of Jupiter and I would tend to think that the strength of Karaka

Mars is important to cancel such state of MKA. Take my case, Jup in MKA, however, Mars the Karaka for 3rd,

is the AK and placed in the 9th and own Navamsa

showing that, I (AK) shall be able to cancel the avastha

of Jupiter. Jup rules 1st and 4th

and hence my health (1st) and mother (4th) (also because

karaka for mother is deb in both rasi

and Navamsa) shall suffer. But I realized that the

key to uplift both from the condition lies with me (Mars-AK).

Please ponder on it. You might hit some

better clues on judgement. J

Best Wishes

Sarajit

108 ar

[jyotish108]

Sunday, February 08, 2004

1:56 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

Dear Sarajit,

While what you wrote here- that debilitation further

weakens the planet in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly

logical and clear to me,

I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment

of a planet in MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that

right? Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

Thanks.

Warmest wishes,

Anna

-

" Sarajit Poddar "

Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:23:30 +0800

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

||

Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Freedom,

I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb

MKA planet is good.

What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this

is the most weakest

position of the planet and the houses ruled are

not spared, even a

little bit. This is the most dangerous position,

unless there is

cancellation of debilitation.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Freedom [freedom]

Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

Hare Rama Krsna

For Maranakaraka planets you need life

rejuvenating mantras, bijas like

JuM. You can use t he various forms of Shiva

accordingly to the graha.

For example a good one for Venus is

Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

Others can be calculated according to mantra

shastra rules.

Its important to keep in mind:

1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are

not as bad for person

born in the day time.

Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not

bad if person is born in

the night.

Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but

will make one

brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at

night)

Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person

was born at night

Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born

at night, if day birth

then short tempered and will be easily defeated

Those born in day-benefics are stronger person

born at night- malefics

are stronger

Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad

day or night because

he is strong in both.

2. Sometimes maranakarakastha na is good. If the

planet is inimical to

the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For

example, a Jupiter Rahu

conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana

in the 3rd it has less

power to harm.

3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is

reversed. For example,

neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good

results.

Namah Sivaya

Freedom

onlyhari [onlyhari]

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

How to deduce the specific mantra for

strengthening of a planet in

maranasthana?

For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a

12 akshara mantra?

How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th,

should a 8 akshara

mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for

this specific

purpose be used?

How to choose between prescription of mantra or

gem for planet in

maranasthana?

If somebody can explain with examples (and

observed effects) that

would be great.

thanks and regards

Hari

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 8, 2004

Om Gurave Namah

Namaste Sarajit,

Regarding the MKA planets, I have a small doubt. You said that the

strength of Karaka of the house, where the MKA planet is posited,

would influence the impact of MKA planet. Extending your logic to my

case, despite the fact that both Sun (Karaka for 1st & 9th houses)

and Jupiter(Karaka for 9th house)are very strong, my 3rd house of

siblings still badly suffered due to lordship of Saturn and Rahu

(both in MKA). The other significations of 3rd & 2nd houses,

though, have not been affected.

Just for debating the issue, for I know about your research oriented

interest in the subject: Perhaps the strength of the karaka of the

affected house is more vital for counteracting MKA evils? I know that

your Sun is very strong while the same can not be said about your

Moon. So, your 1st house matters are definitely better protected than

the 4th house matters?

Regards,

Lakshmi

varahamihira , " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajit@s...>

wrote:

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Anna,

>

> Exaltation of the MKA planets reduces the blemish to a large extent,

> however that's not all. We need to see all the source of the

strengths

> to see the manifestation of the Marana Avasta at a particular arena

of

> life. Exaltation and debilitation are only positional strengths and

this

> shows that MKA planet shall not adversely affect the status/

position of

> the native. Please read my article on shadbala for interpretation of

> other sources of strengths. What Freedom wrote in one mail about

the day

> and night strength is the kala bala and has to be interpreted little

> differently. So the bottomline is that, we need to find out what

are the

> sources of strength of the MKA planet and those areas shall be

spared.

>

> I am some more views on MKA planets, which I do not know whether

> approved by Sanjayji. However, just for sharing and more

deliberations

> on the topic, I shall write it down. Like Debiltation, MKA is a

source

> of weakness to a planet. However the difference is that, while

> debilitation has to do with different signs, MKA has to do with

> different houses. As the strength of the dispositor becomes

important in

> the former case, I would tend to think that the strength of the

karaka

> becomes important to the Planets in the MKA. We know that if Saturn

is

> well placed in Kendra to lagna/ moon; exalted in the Navamsa, the

> debilitation of Jupiter is cancelled. We see here that, although

Saturn

> is the cause of debilitation of Jupiter, it has the key to cancel

the

> debilitation too. Hence if Jup is deb, strengthening Saturn could

be one

> of the solution to cancel the debility of Jup. However, if Jupiter

is in

> MKA in the 3rd house, it shall be so, irrespective of the sign

where it

> is placed. However, as houses are involved here, karaka takes the

> precedence compared to the dispositor of Jupiter and I would tend to

> think that the strength of Karaka Mars is important to cancel such

state

> of MKA. Take my case, Jup in MKA, however, Mars the Karaka for 3rd,

is

> the AK and placed in the 9th and own Navamsa showing that, I (AK)

shall

> be able to cancel the avastha of Jupiter. Jup rules 1st and 4th and

> hence my health (1st) and mother (4th) (also because karaka for

mother

> is deb in both rasi and Navamsa) shall suffer. But I realized that

the

> key to uplift both from the condition lies with me (Mars-AK).

>

> Please ponder on it. You might hit some better clues on

judgement. :-)

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> 108 ar [jyotish108@c...]

> Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:56 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> Dear Sarajit,

> While what you wrote here- that debilitation further weakens the

planet

> in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly logical and

clear

> to me,

> I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment of a planet in

> MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that right?

> Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

> Thanks.

> Warmest wishes,

> Anna

>

> -

> " Sarajit Poddar "

> Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:23:30 +0800

> To:

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Freedom,

>

> I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb MKA planet is

good.

> What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this is the most

weakest

> position of the planet and the houses ruled are not spared, even a

> little bit. This is the most dangerous position, unless there is

> cancellation of debilitation.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> Freedom [freedom@s...]

> Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas

like

> JuM. You can use t he various forms of Shiva accordingly to the

graha.

> For example a good one for Venus is

> Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

> Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

>

> Its important to keep in mind:

> 1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for

person

> born in the day time.

> Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is

born in

> the night.

> Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

> brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

> Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at

night

> Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day

birth

> then short tempered and will be easily defeated

>

> Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night-

malefics

> are stronger

>

> Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night

because

> he is strong in both.

>

> 2. Sometimes maranakarakastha na is good. If the planet is inimical

to

> the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a Jupiter

Rahu

> conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it has

less

> power to harm.

>

> 3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

> neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

>

> Namah Sivaya

> Freedom

> onlyhari [onlyhari]

> Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

> varahamihira

> |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

>

> How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening of a planet in

> maranasthana?

>

> For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara

mantra?

> How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th, should a 8 akshara

> mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for this specific

> purpose be used?

>

> How to choose between prescription of mantra or gem for planet in

> maranasthana?

>

> If somebody can explain with examples (and observed effects) that

> would be great.

>

> thanks and regards

> Hari

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

February 8, 2004

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

Dear Sarajit,

I cannot understand why you would disregard your

lagna lord’s dispositor.

Besides Jupiter in MKS, its dispositor is Saturn,

indicating sorrow. According to Sanjayji, (quote) the

dispositor of the lagna

lord behaves/acts like the Sun. Therefore, your Saturn or Rahu controls all

matters concerning the Bhava, health, wealth and the

personality in totality. (unquote)

Hence rasi mantra for

Aquarius can help you in this case. Is my understanding correct?

Love,

Swee

swee

www.brihaspati.net

Sarajit Poddar

[sarajit]

08 February 2004 10:27

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Anna,

Exaltation of the MKA

planets reduces the blemish to a large extent, however that’s not all. We

need to see all the source of the strengths to see the manifestation of the Marana Avasta at a particular arena of life. Exaltation and debilitation are

only positional strengths and this shows that MKA planet shall not adversely

affect the status/ position of the native. Please read my article on shadbala

for interpretation of other sources of strengths. What Freedom wrote in one

mail about the day and night strength is the kala bala and has to be

interpreted little differently. So the bottomline is that, we need to find out what

are the sources of strength of the MKA planet and those areas shall be spared.

I am some more views on

MKA planets, which I do not know whether approved by Sanjayji. However, just

for sharing and more deliberations on the topic, I shall write it down. Like

Debiltation, MKA is a source of weakness to a planet. However the difference is

that, while debilitation has to do with different signs, MKA has to do with

different houses. As the strength of the dispositor becomes important in the

former case, I would tend to think that the strength of the karaka becomes

important to the Planets in the MKA. We know that if Saturn is well placed in Kendra to

lagna/ moon; exalted in the Navamsa, the debilitation of Jupiter is cancelled.

We see here that, although Saturn is the cause of debilitation of Jupiter, it

has the key to cancel the debilitation too. Hence if Jup is deb, strengthening

Saturn could be one of the solution to cancel the debility of Jup. However, if

Jupiter is in MKA in the 3rd house, it shall be so, irrespective of

the sign where it is placed. However, as houses are involved here, karaka takes

the precedence compared to the dispositor of Jupiter and I would tend to think

that the strength of Karaka Mars is important to cancel such state of MKA. Take

my case, Jup in MKA, however, Mars the Karaka for 3rd, is the AK and

placed in the 9th and own Navamsa showing that, I (AK) shall be able

to cancel the avastha of Jupiter. Jup rules 1st and 4th

and hence my health (1st) and mother (4th) (also because

karaka for mother is deb in both rasi and Navamsa) shall suffer. But I realized

that the key to uplift both from the condition lies with me (Mars-AK).

Please ponder on it. You

might hit some better clues on judgement. J

Best Wishes

Sarajit

108 ar

[jyotish108]

Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:56 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

Dear Sarajit,

While what you wrote here- that debilitation further

weakens the planet in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly

logical and clear to me,

I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment

of a planet in MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that

right? Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

Thanks.

Warmest wishes,

Anna

-

" Sarajit Poddar "

Sun, 8

Feb 2004 11:23:30 +0800

Subject:

RE: |Sri

Varaha| Mantra for

planet in maranasthana

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Freedom,

I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb

MKA planet is good.

What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this

is the most weakest

position of the planet and the houses ruled are

not spared, even a

little bit. This is the most dangerous position,

unless there is

cancellation of debilitation.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Freedom

[freedom]

Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

Hare Rama Krsna

For Maranakaraka planets you need life

rejuvenating mantras, bijas like

JuM. You can use t he various forms of Shiva

accordingly to the graha.

For example a good one for Venus is

Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

Others can be calculated according to mantra

shastra rules.

Its important to keep in mind:

1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are

not as bad for person

born in the day time.

Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not

bad if person is born in

the night.

Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but

will make one

brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at

night)

Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c

person was born at night

Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born

at night, if day birth

then short tempered and will be easily defeated

Those born in day-benefics are stronger person

born at night- malefics

are stronger

Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad

day or night because

he is strong in both.

2. Sometimes maranakarakastha na is good. If the

planet is inimical to

the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For

example, a Jupiter Rahu

conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana

in the 3rd it has less

power to harm.

3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is

reversed. For example,

neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good

results.

Namah Sivaya

Freedom

onlyhari

[onlyhari]

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

How to deduce the specific mantra for

strengthening of a planet in

maranasthana?

For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a

12 akshara mantra?

How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th,

should a 8 akshara

mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for

this specific

purpose be used?

How to choose between prescription of mantra or

gem for planet in

maranasthana?

If somebody can explain with examples (and

observed effects) that

would be great.

thanks and regards

Hari

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 8, 2004

Hare Rama Krsna

I only know that one time Visti and I were

looking at Brenden Feeley’s

chart. He has MKS Jupiter and he is Scorpio lagna. We though it was terrible,

but Sanjay laughed and said it was reversed. He told us to ask him how many

kids he has. I think he has 3 kids.

I agree with your Karaka concept and saw

that the karaka would have to be weak to lessen the marana.

But then that will show up in problems with the Karaka’s significations.

Strong karaka will strengthen the killing. Jupiter is a pacifist in the 3rd,

Mars- the soldier- as karaka. Saturn in Lagna has Sun karaka doing the marana. Rahu in the 9th has Jupiter doing the marana, etc.

Namah Sivaya

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Sarajit

Poddar [sarajit]

Sunday, February 08,

2004 1:57 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

|| Jaya

Jagannath ||

Dear Anna,

Exaltation of the MKA

planets reduces the blemish to a large extent, however that’s not all. We

need to see all the source of the strengths to see the manifestation of the

Marana Avasta at a particular arena of life.

Exaltation and debilitation are only positional strengths and this shows that

MKA planet shall not adversely affect the status/ position of the native.

Please read my article on shadbala for interpretation

of other sources of strengths. What Freedom wrote in one mail about the day and

night strength is the kala bala and has to be

interpreted little differently. So the bottomline is

that, we need to find out what are the sources of strength of the MKA planet

and those areas shall be spared.

I am some more views on

MKA planets, which I do not know whether approved by Sanjayji.

However, just for sharing and more deliberations on the topic, I shall write it

down. Like Debiltation, MKA is a source of weakness

to a planet. However the difference is that, while debilitation has to do with

different signs, MKA has to do with different houses. As the strength of the dispositor becomes important in the former case, I would

tend to think that the strength of the karaka becomes important to the Planets

in the MKA. We know that if Saturn is well placed in Kendra to lagna/ moon;

exalted in the Navamsa, the debilitation of Jupiter is cancelled. We see here

that, although Saturn is the cause of debilitation of Jupiter, it has the key

to cancel the debilitation too. Hence if Jup is deb, strengthening Saturn could be one of the solution to

cancel the debility of Jup. However, if Jupiter is in

MKA in the 3rd house, it shall be so, irrespective of the sign where

it is placed. However, as houses are involved here, karaka takes the precedence

compared to the dispositor of Jupiter and I would

tend to think that the strength of Karaka Mars is important to cancel such

state of MKA. Take my case, Jup in MKA, however, Mars

the Karaka for 3rd, is the AK and placed in the 9th and

own Navamsa showing that, I (AK) shall be able to cancel the avastha of Jupiter. Jup rules 1st

and 4th and hence my health (1st) and mother (4th)

(also because karaka for mother is deb in both rasi

and Navamsa) shall suffer. But I realized that the key to uplift both from the

condition lies with me (Mars-AK).

Please ponder on it. You

might hit some better clues on judgement. J

Best Wishes

Sarajit

108 ar

[jyotish108]

Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:56 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

Dear Sarajit,

While what you wrote here- that debilitation further

weakens the planet in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly

logical and clear to me,

I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment

of a planet in MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that

right? Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

Thanks.

Warmest wishes,

Anna

-

" Sarajit Poddar "

Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:23:30

+0800

RE: |Sri Varaha|

Mantra for planet in maranasthana

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Freedom,

I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb MKA planet is good.

What I remember from Gurudev's

teaching that this is the most weakest

position of the planet and the houses ruled are

not spared, even a

little bit. This is the most dangerous position,

unless there is

cancellation of debilitation.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Freedom [freedom]

Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha|

Mantra for planet in maranasthana

Hare Rama Krsna

For Maranakaraka planets

you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas like

JuM. You can use t he various forms of Shiva accordingly to the

graha.

For example a good one for Venus is

Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

Others can be calculated according to mantra

shastra rules.

Its important to keep in mind:

1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana

are not as bad for person

born in the day time.

Night strong planets maranakarakasthana

are not bad if person is born in

the night.

Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but

will make one

brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at

night)

Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c

person was born at night

Mangalik dosa will not show short temper

if born at night, if day birth

then short tempered and will be easily defeated

Those born in day-benefics are stronger person

born at night- malefics

are stronger

Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka

is not that bad day or night because

he is strong in both.

2. Sometimes maranakarakastha

na is good. If the planet is inimical to

the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For

example, a Jupiter Rahu

conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana

in the 3rd it has less

power to harm.

3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana

planet is reversed. For example,

neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good

results.

Namah Sivaya

Freedom

onlyhari [onlyhari]

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha|

Mantra for planet in maranasthana

||Om Brihaspataye

Namah||

Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening

of a planet in

maranasthana?

For eg., if Sun is in

12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara mantra?

How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th,

should a 8 akshara

mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga

mantras for this specific

purpose be used?

How to choose between prescription of mantra or

gem for planet in

maranasthana?

If somebody can explain with examples (and

observed effects) that

would be great.

thanks and regards

Hari

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 8, 2004

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Swee,

I have not disregarded the dispositor of

the lagna lord. In fact all the dispositor the rasi, Nakshatra and the navamsa

dispositor have very high say in the strength of the planet. However, what I

tried to point out is that, as “houses” rather than “signs”

are involved in the MKA of the planet, the karaka gain more importance than the

lord of the sign. However the lord is very important to their strength and it

can’t be ignored. One more thing here, while judging the relative

strength of a planet, we consider the dispositor and not give much importance

to the strength of the karaka, where the lagna lord

is placed. To do a proper analysis, the karaka’s placement is also to be

judged. In Gurudev’s chart the Lagna lord is

placed in the Lagna and hence Sun gain a lot of say in

the matters of the Lagna. Sun shall determine, how the objective of the Lagna

lord be fulfilled, being the primary karaka of the Lagna.

The dispositor of the Lagna lord doesnot behave like Sun, rather, the lagna

lord behaves like Sun. This is based on the principle that, the lord of a house

shall carry the influences of the karaka of the house to wherever it is placed.

So 2nd lord shall behave like Moon, 3rd

like Mars, 4th like Mars/Moon/Merc/Ven; 5th

like Jup/ Sun etc.

Saturn and Rahu

are not the only one who controls the 3rd bhava.

Any bhava is controlled by at least two planets, the

lord and the karaka. That’s why whenever a lord of a house is weak, the karaka comes to rescue and vice versa. The lord of

a sign protects the signs, whereas the Karaka carry out the responsibilities/

significations of the house. So you cannot ignore one and rest its

responsibility on other’s head.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Swee Chan

[swee]

Sunday, February 08, 2004

8:06 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

Dear Sarajit,

I cannot understand why you

would disregard your lagna lord’s dispositor. Besides Jupiter in MKS, its

dispositor is Saturn, indicating sorrow. According to Sanjayji, (quote) the

dispositor of the lagna lord behaves/acts like the Sun. Therefore, your Saturn

or Rahu controls all matters concerning the Bhava, health, wealth and the

personality in totality. (unquote)

Hence rasi mantra for

Aquarius can help you in this case. Is my understanding correct?

Love,

Swee

swee

www.brihaspati.net

Sarajit Poddar

[sarajit]

08 February 2004 10:27

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

|| Jaya

Jagannath ||

Dear Anna,

Exaltation

of the MKA planets reduces the blemish to a large extent, however that’s

not all. We need to see all the source of the strengths to see the

manifestation of the Marana Avasta at a particular arena of life. Exaltation

and debilitation are only positional strengths and this shows that MKA planet

shall not adversely affect the status/ position of the native. Please read my

article on shadbala for interpretation of other sources of strengths. What

Freedom wrote in one mail about the day and night strength is the kala bala and

has to be interpreted little differently. So the bottomline is that, we need to

find out what are the sources of strength of the MKA planet and those areas

shall be spared.

I am

some more views on MKA planets, which I do not know whether approved by

Sanjayji. However, just for sharing and more deliberations on the topic, I

shall write it down. Like Debiltation, MKA is a source of weakness to a planet.

However the difference is that, while debilitation has to do with different

signs, MKA has to do with different houses. As the strength of the dispositor

becomes important in the former case, I would tend to think that the strength

of the karaka becomes important to the Planets in the MKA. We know that if

Saturn is well placed in Kendra to lagna/ moon; exalted in the Navamsa, the

debilitation of Jupiter is cancelled. We see here that, although Saturn is the

cause of debilitation of Jupiter, it has the key to cancel the debilitation

too. Hence if Jup is deb, strengthening Saturn could be one of the solution to

cancel the debility of Jup. However, if Jupiter is in MKA in the 3rd

house, it shall be so, irrespective of the sign where it is placed. However, as

houses are involved here, karaka takes the precedence compared to the

dispositor of Jupiter and I would tend to think that the strength of Karaka

Mars is important to cancel such state of MKA. Take my case, Jup in MKA,

however, Mars the Karaka for 3rd, is the AK and placed in the 9th

and own Navamsa showing that, I (AK) shall be able to cancel the avastha of

Jupiter. Jup rules 1st and 4th and hence my health (1st)

and mother (4th) (also because karaka for mother is deb in both rasi

and Navamsa) shall suffer. But I realized that the key to uplift both from the

condition lies with me (Mars-AK).

Please

ponder on it. You might hit some better clues on judgement. J

Best

Wishes

Sarajit

108 ar

[jyotish108]

Sunday, February 08, 2004

1:56 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

Dear Sarajit,

While what you wrote here- that debilitation further weakens

the planet in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly logical

and clear to me,

I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment

of a planet in MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that

right? Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

Thanks.

Warmest wishes,

Anna

-

" Sarajit Poddar "

Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:23:30 +0800

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

||

Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Freedom,

I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb

MKA planet is good.

What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this

is the most weakest

position of the planet and the houses ruled are

not spared, even a

little bit. This is the most dangerous position,

unless there is

cancellation of debilitation.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Freedom [freedom]

Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

Hare Rama Krsna

For Maranakaraka planets you need life

rejuvenating mantras, bijas like

JuM. You can use t he various forms of Shiva

accordingly to the graha.

For example a good one for Venus is

Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

Others can be calculated according to mantra

shastra rules.

Its important to keep in mind:

1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are

not as bad for person

born in the day time.

Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not

bad if person is born in

the night.

Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but

will make one

brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at

night)

Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c

person was born at night

Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born

at night, if day birth

then short tempered and will be easily defeated

Those born in day-benefics are stronger person

born at night- malefics

are stronger

Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad

day or night because

he is strong in both.

2. Sometimes maranakarakastha na is good. If the

planet is inimical to

the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For

example, a Jupiter Rahu

conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana

in the 3rd it has less

power to harm.

3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is

reversed. For example,

neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good

results.

Namah Sivaya

Freedom

onlyhari [onlyhari]

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

How to deduce the specific mantra for

strengthening of a planet in

maranasthana?

For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a

12 akshara mantra?

How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th,

should a 8 akshara

mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for

this specific

purpose be used?

How to choose between prescription of mantra or

gem for planet in

maranasthana?

If somebody can explain with examples (and

observed effects) that

would be great.

thanks and regards

Hari

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 8, 2004

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sarajit,

Just thought of sharing this with you. In Puri conf. someone

(Goelji?) had shown the chart of actress Nutan. She had Gajakesari in

the 3rd house and she died of cancer.

My friend, Sudha, also died of cancer and she had Gajakesari in the

3rd house! It could be a coincidence, but still worth an

investigation.

Regards,

Lakshmi

>

> Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...]

> 08 February 2004 10:27

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Anna,

>

> Exaltation of the MKA planets reduces the blemish to a large extent,

> however that's not all. We need to see all the source of the

strengths

> to see the manifestation of the Marana Avasta at a particular arena

of

> life. Exaltation and debilitation are only positional strengths and

this

> shows that MKA planet shall not adversely affect the status/

position of

> the native. Please read my article on shadbala for interpretation of

> other sources of strengths. What Freedom wrote in one mail about

the day

> and night strength is the kala bala and has to be interpreted little

> differently. So the bottomline is that, we need to find out what

are the

> sources of strength of the MKA planet and those areas shall be

spared.

>

> I am some more views on MKA planets, which I do not know whether

> approved by Sanjayji. However, just for sharing and more

deliberations

> on the topic, I shall write it down. Like Debiltation, MKA is a

source

> of weakness to a planet. However the difference is that, while

> debilitation has to do with different signs, MKA has to do with

> different houses. As the strength of the dispositor becomes

important in

> the former case, I would tend to think that the strength of the

karaka

> becomes important to the Planets in the MKA. We know that if Saturn

is

> well placed in Kendra to lagna/ moon; exalted in the Navamsa, the

> debilitation of Jupiter is cancelled. We see here that, although

Saturn

> is the cause of debilitation of Jupiter, it has the key to cancel

the

> debilitation too. Hence if Jup is deb, strengthening Saturn could

be one

> of the solution to cancel the debility of Jup. However, if Jupiter

is in

> MKA in the 3rd house, it shall be so, irrespective of the sign

where it

> is placed. However, as houses are involved here, karaka takes the

> precedence compared to the dispositor of Jupiter and I would tend to

> think that the strength of Karaka Mars is important to cancel such

state

> of MKA. Take my case, Jup in MKA, however, Mars the Karaka for 3rd,

is

> the AK and placed in the 9th and own Navamsa showing that, I (AK)

shall

> be able to cancel the avastha of Jupiter. Jup rules 1st and 4th and

> hence my health (1st) and mother (4th) (also because karaka for

mother

> is deb in both rasi and Navamsa) shall suffer. But I realized that

the

> key to uplift both from the condition lies with me (Mars-AK).

>

> Please ponder on it. You might hit some better clues on

judgement. :-)

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> 108 ar [jyotish108@c...]

> Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:56 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> Dear Sarajit,

> While what you wrote here- that debilitation further weakens the

planet

> in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly logical and

clear

> to me,

> I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment of a planet in

> MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that right?

> Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

> Thanks.

> Warmest wishes,

> Anna

>

> -

> " Sarajit Poddar "

> Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:23:30 +0800

> To:

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Freedom,

>

> I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb MKA planet is

good.

> What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this is the most

weakest

> position of the planet and the houses ruled are not spared, even a

> little bit. This is the most dangerous position, unless there is

> cancellation of debilitation.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> Freedom [freedom@s...]

> Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas

like

> JuM. You can use t he various forms of Shiva accordingly to the

graha.

> For example a good one for Venus is

> Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

> Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

>

> Its important to keep in mind:

> 1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for

person

> born in the day time.

> Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is

born in

> the night.

> Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

> brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

> Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at

night

> Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day

birth

> then short tempered and will be easily defeated

>

> Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night-

malefics

> are stronger

>

> Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night

because

> he is strong in both.

>

> 2. Sometimes maranakarakastha na is good. If the planet is inimical

to

> the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a Jupiter

Rahu

> conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it has

less

> power to harm.

>

> 3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

> neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

>

> Namah Sivaya

> Freedom

> onlyhari [onlyhari]

> Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

> varahamihira

> |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

>

> How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening of a planet in

> maranasthana?

>

> For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara

mantra?

> How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th, should a 8 akshara

> mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for this specific

> purpose be used?

>

> How to choose between prescription of mantra or gem for planet in

> maranasthana?

>

> If somebody can explain with examples (and observed effects) that

> would be great.

>

> thanks and regards

> Hari

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

February 8, 2004

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sarajit,

You’ve made it very clear. Thank you.

Love,

Swee

Sarajit Poddar

[sarajit]

08 February 2004 18:29

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for

planet in maranasthana

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Swee,

I have not disregarded

the dispositor of the lagna lord. In fact all the dispositor the rasi,

Nakshatra and the navamsa dispositor have very high say in the strength of the

planet. However, what I tried to point out is that, as “houses”

rather than “signs” are involved in the MKA of the planet, the

karaka gain more importance than the lord of the sign. However the lord is very

important to their strength and it can’t be ignored. One more thing here,

while judging the relative strength of a planet, we consider the dispositor and

not give much importance to the strength of the karaka, where the lagna lord is

placed. To do a proper analysis, the karaka’s placement is also to be

judged. In Gurudev’s chart the Lagna lord is placed in the Lagna and

hence Sun gain a lot of say in the matters of the Lagna. Sun shall determine,

how the objective of the Lagna lord be fulfilled, being the primary karaka of

the Lagna.

The dispositor of the

Lagna lord doesnot behave like Sun, rather, the lagna lord behaves like Sun.

This is based on the principle that, the lord of a house shall carry the

influences of the karaka of the house to wherever it is placed. So 2nd

lord shall behave like Moon, 3rd like Mars, 4th like

Mars/Moon/Merc/Ven; 5th like Jup/ Sun etc.

Saturn and Rahu are not

the only one who controls the 3rd bhava. Any bhava is controlled by

at least two planets, the lord and the karaka. That’s why whenever a lord

of a house is weak, the karaka comes to rescue and vice versa. The lord of a

sign protects the signs, whereas the Karaka carry out the responsibilities/

significations of the house. So you cannot ignore one and rest its

responsibility on other’s head.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Swee Chan

[swee]

Sunday, February 08, 2004 8:06 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

Dear Sarajit,

I cannot understand why you

would disregard your lagna lord’s dispositor. Besides Jupiter in MKS, its

dispositor is Saturn, indicating sorrow. According to Sanjayji, (quote) the

dispositor of the lagna lord behaves/acts like the Sun. Therefore, your Saturn

or Rahu controls all matters concerning the Bhava, health, wealth and the

personality in totality. (unquote)

Hence rasi mantra for

Aquarius can help you in this case. Is my understanding correct?

Love,

Swee

swee

www.brihaspati.net

Sarajit Poddar

[sarajit]

08 February 2004 10:27

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Anna,

Exaltation

of the MKA planets reduces the blemish to a large extent, however that’s

not all. We need to see all the source of the strengths to see the manifestation

of the Marana Avasta at a particular arena of life. Exaltation and debilitation are

only positional strengths and this shows that MKA planet shall not adversely

affect the status/ position of the native. Please read my article on shadbala

for interpretation of other sources of strengths. What Freedom wrote in one

mail about the day and night strength is the kala bala and has to be

interpreted little differently. So the bottomline is that, we need to find out

what are the sources of strength of the MKA planet and those areas shall be

spared.

I am

some more views on MKA planets, which I do not know whether approved by

Sanjayji. However, just for sharing and more deliberations on the topic, I

shall write it down. Like Debiltation, MKA is a source of weakness to a planet.

However the difference is that, while debilitation has to do with different

signs, MKA has to do with different houses. As the strength of the dispositor

becomes important in the former case, I would tend to think that the strength

of the karaka becomes important to the Planets in the MKA. We know that if

Saturn is well placed in Kendra to lagna/ moon; exalted in the Navamsa, the debilitation of

Jupiter is cancelled. We see here that, although Saturn is the cause of

debilitation of Jupiter, it has the key to cancel the debilitation too. Hence

if Jup is deb, strengthening Saturn could be one of the solution to cancel the

debility of Jup. However, if Jupiter is in MKA in the 3rd house, it

shall be so, irrespective of the sign where it is placed. However, as houses

are involved here, karaka takes the precedence compared to the dispositor of

Jupiter and I would tend to think that the strength of Karaka Mars is important

to cancel such state of MKA. Take my case, Jup in MKA, however, Mars the Karaka

for 3rd, is the AK and placed in the 9th and own Navamsa

showing that, I (AK) shall be able to cancel the avastha of Jupiter. Jup rules

1st and 4th and hence my health (1st) and

mother (4th) (also because karaka for mother is deb in both rasi and

Navamsa) shall suffer. But I realized that the key to uplift both from the

condition lies with me (Mars-AK).

Please

ponder on it. You might hit some better clues on judgement. J

Best

Wishes

Sarajit

108 ar

[jyotish108]

Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:56 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

Dear Sarajit,

While what you wrote here- that debilitation further

weakens the planet in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly

logical and clear to me,

I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment

of a planet in MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that

right? Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

Thanks.

Warmest wishes,

Anna

-

" Sarajit Poddar "

Sun, 8

Feb 2004 11:23:30 +0800

Subject:

RE: |Sri

Varaha| Mantra for

planet in maranasthana

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Freedom,

I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb

MKA planet is good.

What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this

is the most weakest

position of the planet and the houses ruled are

not spared, even a

little bit. This is the most dangerous position, unless

there is

cancellation of debilitation.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Freedom

[freedom]

Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

Hare Rama Krsna

For Maranakaraka planets you need life

rejuvenating mantras, bijas like

JuM. You can use t he various forms of Shiva

accordingly to the graha.

For example a good one for Venus is

Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

Others can be calculated according to mantra

shastra rules.

Its important to keep in mind:

1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are

not as bad for person

born in the day time.

Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not

bad if person is born in

the night.

Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but

will make one

brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at

night)

Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c

person was born at night

Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born

at night, if day birth

then short tempered and will be easily defeated

Those born in day-benefics are stronger person

born at night- malefics

are stronger

Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad

day or night because

he is strong in both.

2. Sometimes maranakarakastha na is good. If the

planet is inimical to

the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For

example, a Jupiter Rahu

conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana

in the 3rd it has less

power to harm.

3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is

reversed. For example,

neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good

results.

Namah Sivaya

Freedom

onlyhari

[onlyhari]

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in

maranasthana

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

How to deduce the specific mantra for

strengthening of a planet in

maranasthana?

For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a

12 akshara mantra?

How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th,

should a 8 akshara

mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for

this specific

purpose be used?

How to choose between prescription of mantra or

gem for planet in

maranasthana?

If somebody can explain with examples (and

observed effects) that

would be great.

thanks and regards

Hari

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 8, 2004

In a message dated 02/08/2004 12:57:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, jyotish108 writes:

Hare Rama Krishna

Dearest Anna and Sarajit,

Please take a look at my chart and tell me what I should expect from Jupiter and the houses he lords (2nd and 5th) as well as the house he occupies in debilitation (3rd), his maranasthana.

Now what kind of result should I have seen in this life wrt my native family, marriage (he is the DK), birth of chilldren, knowledge and learning, education, degrees, Gurus, etc?

There is only one astrologer (our dear Sanjay) in this world to date that was able to tell me in completely clear terms what this Jupiter brought into my life and he was able to explain it with absolute clarity based on sound rules. Note that the Jupiter is also neecha in the Navamsa.

As I recall, Sanjay told me that with this Jupiter, "Yama comes to take my family and children away and he suddenly becomes confused and has to leave and return to his abode."

Every other astrologer failed miserably. Some of them were very "famous." I was told I would never be married and if I did get married it would be for no more than 2 years, that I would never have children, a poor education, little interest in knowledge (philosophy is my favorite subject, both western and vedic).

One astrologer told me I didn't have any younger sibling. I have 4 older siblings and one younger. The older ones all have regular "ordinary" lives but the younger one has an international reputation and a good deal of fame in his field.

In otherwords, the opposite of what you propose has occurred. How does your logic apply here?

Warm Regards,

Brendan

While what you wrote here- that debilitation further weakens the planet in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly logical and clear to me,

I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment of a planet in MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that right? Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

Thanks.

Warmest wishes,

Anna

February 9, 2004

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Lakshmi,

This might be a coincidence. Benefics in the 3rd makes the person

fortunate as it aspects the 9th house with 7th sight. We must check the

3rd/8th from the AL/A7 to know more on the nature of their death. Can

you share their birth details.

Regards

Sarajit

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh]

Monday, February 09, 2004 12:55 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sarajit,

Just thought of sharing this with you. In Puri conf. someone

(Goelji?) had shown the chart of actress Nutan. She had Gajakesari in

the 3rd house and she died of cancer.

My friend, Sudha, also died of cancer and she had Gajakesari in the

3rd house! It could be a coincidence, but still worth an

investigation.

Regards,

Lakshmi

>

> Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...]

> 08 February 2004 10:27

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Anna,

>

> Exaltation of the MKA planets reduces the blemish to a large extent,

> however that's not all. We need to see all the source of the

strengths

> to see the manifestation of the Marana Avasta at a particular arena

of

> life. Exaltation and debilitation are only positional strengths and

this

> shows that MKA planet shall not adversely affect the status/

position of

> the native. Please read my article on shadbala for interpretation of

> other sources of strengths. What Freedom wrote in one mail about

the day

> and night strength is the kala bala and has to be interpreted little

> differently. So the bottomline is that, we need to find out what

are the

> sources of strength of the MKA planet and those areas shall be

spared.

>

> I am some more views on MKA planets, which I do not know whether

> approved by Sanjayji. However, just for sharing and more

deliberations

> on the topic, I shall write it down. Like Debiltation, MKA is a

source

> of weakness to a planet. However the difference is that, while

> debilitation has to do with different signs, MKA has to do with

> different houses. As the strength of the dispositor becomes

important in

> the former case, I would tend to think that the strength of the

karaka

> becomes important to the Planets in the MKA. We know that if Saturn

is

> well placed in Kendra to lagna/ moon; exalted in the Navamsa, the

> debilitation of Jupiter is cancelled. We see here that, although

Saturn

> is the cause of debilitation of Jupiter, it has the key to cancel

the

> debilitation too. Hence if Jup is deb, strengthening Saturn could

be one

> of the solution to cancel the debility of Jup. However, if Jupiter

is in

> MKA in the 3rd house, it shall be so, irrespective of the sign

where it

> is placed. However, as houses are involved here, karaka takes the

> precedence compared to the dispositor of Jupiter and I would tend to

> think that the strength of Karaka Mars is important to cancel such

state

> of MKA. Take my case, Jup in MKA, however, Mars the Karaka for 3rd,

is

> the AK and placed in the 9th and own Navamsa showing that, I (AK)

shall

> be able to cancel the avastha of Jupiter. Jup rules 1st and 4th and

> hence my health (1st) and mother (4th) (also because karaka for

mother

> is deb in both rasi and Navamsa) shall suffer. But I realized that

the

> key to uplift both from the condition lies with me (Mars-AK).

>

> Please ponder on it. You might hit some better clues on

judgement. :-)

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> 108 ar [jyotish108@c...]

> Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:56 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> Dear Sarajit,

> While what you wrote here- that debilitation further weakens the

planet

> in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly logical and

clear

> to me,

> I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment of a planet in

> MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that right?

> Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

> Thanks.

> Warmest wishes,

> Anna

>

> -

> " Sarajit Poddar "

> Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:23:30 +0800

> To:

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Freedom,

>

> I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb MKA planet is

good.

> What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this is the most

weakest

> position of the planet and the houses ruled are not spared, even a

> little bit. This is the most dangerous position, unless there is

> cancellation of debilitation.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> Freedom [freedom@s...]

> Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas

like

> JuM. You can use t he various forms of Shiva accordingly to the

graha.

> For example a good one for Venus is

> Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

> Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

>

> Its important to keep in mind:

> 1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for

person

> born in the day time.

> Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is

born in

> the night.

> Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

> brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

> Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at

night

> Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day

birth

> then short tempered and will be easily defeated

>

> Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night-

malefics

> are stronger

>

> Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night

because

> he is strong in both.

>

> 2. Sometimes maranakarakastha na is good. If the planet is inimical

to

> the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a Jupiter

Rahu

> conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it has

less

> power to harm.

>

> 3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

> neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

>

> Namah Sivaya

> Freedom

> onlyhari [onlyhari]

> Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

> varahamihira

> |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

>

> How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening of a planet in

> maranasthana?

>

> For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara

mantra?

> How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th, should a 8 akshara

> mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for this specific

> purpose be used?

>

> How to choose between prescription of mantra or gem for planet in

> maranasthana?

>

> If somebody can explain with examples (and observed effects) that

> would be great.

>

> thanks and regards

> Hari

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

February 9, 2004

||

Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Brendan,

After I got the last post from Freedom, on

Gurudev’s comment on ur chart, it got it thinking and while I was pondering on that, I saw

today ur mail, confirming what Freedom said in his mail. Now I can’t

say more. I need ur horoscope, which I have lost somehow, accidentally. There must be

some cues present there which made Gurudev say that

the Yama got confused.

Please send ur .JHD file, so that I can figure out. Send it to my personal mail

ID.

Personally I am not convinced about the

double negativity of debilitation of MK planet. Sanjayji

once gave me one example for Scorpio Lagna and Sun, debilitated in the 12th

house, and there was a great havoc because of that. I will search for that

chart and shall share more once I find it. Probably its earstwhile USSR’s chart.

Warm Regards

Sarajit

Bpfeeley

[bpfeeley]

Monday, February 09, 2004

7:39 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

In a message dated 02/08/2004

12:57:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, jyotish108 writes:

Hare Rama Krishna

Dearest Anna and Sarajit,

Please take a look at my chart and tell me what I should expect from Jupiter

and the houses he lords (2nd and 5th) as well as the house he occupies in

debilitation (3rd), his maranasthana.

Now what kind of result should I have seen in this life wrt my native family,

marriage (he is the DK), birth of chilldren, knowledge and learning, education,

degrees, Gurus, etc?

There is only one astrologer (our dear Sanjay) in this world to date that was

able to tell me in completely clear terms what this Jupiter brought into my

life and he was able to explain it with absolute clarity based on sound rules.

Note that the Jupiter is also neecha in the Navamsa.

As I recall, Sanjay told me that with this Jupiter, " Yama comes to take my

family and children away and he suddenly becomes confused and has to leave and

return to his abode. "

Every other astrologer failed miserably. Some of them were very

" famous. " I was told I would never be married and if I did get

married it would be for no more than 2 years, that I would never have children,

a poor education, little interest in knowledge (philosophy is my favorite

subject, both western and vedic).

One astrologer told me I didn't have any younger sibling. I have 4 older

siblings and one younger. The older ones all have regular " ordinary "

lives but the younger one has an international reputation and a good deal of

fame in his field.

In otherwords, the opposite of what you propose has occurred. How does your

logic apply here?

Warm Regards,

Brendan

While what you wrote here- that debilitation further weakens

the planet in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly logical and

clear to me,

I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment of a planet in MKS- by

extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that right? Anything else- that

can modify, improve this bad condition?

Thanks.

Warmest wishes,

Anna

|Om

Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 9, 2004

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

Dear Sarajit,

Absolutely fascinating to watch this discussion evolve! Looks like

the trip to India (and some rest as well?) has done you a world of

good, astrologically speaking.

You seem to be making one point very clear: see the MKA,

debilitation and strength of karaka for that house in isolation and

combine to form the complete picture.

Debilitation need not necessarily be weak and shows the blessings of

Devi and in Brendan's case, the blessings of Devi for the

significations shown by Ju are always there! It is also retrograde

and thus we should look to D-60 to find out why Sanjay spoke thus?

IAC, I await your comments regarding why Sanjay said like that. One

more question; your AK placement in 9th - how or what kind of things

does it indicate that you have to do in order to save 1st and 4th

house significations? Is Ruby one of those things?

regards

Hari

varahamihira , " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajit@s...>

wrote:

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Brendan,

>

> After I got the last post from Freedom, on Gurudev's comment on ur

> chart, it got it thinking and while I was pondering on that, I saw

today

> ur mail, confirming what Freedom said in his mail. Now I can't say

more.

> I need ur horoscope, which I have lost somehow, accidentally.

There must

> be some cues present there which made Gurudev say that the Yama got

> confused.

>

> Please send ur .JHD file, so that I can figure out. Send it to my

> personal mail ID.

>

> Personally I am not convinced about the double negativity of

> debilitation of MK planet. Sanjayji once gave me one example for

Scorpio

> Lagna and Sun, debilitated in the 12th house, and there was a great

> havoc because of that. I will search for that chart and shall

share more

> once I find it. Probably its earstwhile USSR's chart.

>

> Warm Regards

> Sarajit

>

> Bpfeeley@A... [bpfeeley@A...]

> Monday, February 09, 2004 7:39 AM

> varahamihira

> Re: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> In a message dated 02/08/2004 12:57:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> jyotish108@c... writes:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Dearest Anna and Sarajit,

>

> Please take a look at my chart and tell me what I should expect

from

> Jupiter and the houses he lords (2nd and 5th) as well as the house

he

> occupies in debilitation (3rd), his maranasthana.

>

> Now what kind of result should I have seen in this life wrt my

native

> family, marriage (he is the DK), birth of chilldren, knowledge and

> learning, education, degrees, Gurus, etc?

>

> There is only one astrologer (our dear Sanjay) in this world to

date

> that was able to tell me in completely clear terms what this

Jupiter

> brought into my life and he was able to explain it with absolute

clarity

> based on sound rules. Note that the Jupiter is also neecha in the

> Navamsa.

>

> As I recall, Sanjay told me that with this Jupiter, " Yama comes to

take

> my family and children away and he suddenly becomes confused and

has to

> leave and return to his abode. "

>

> Every other astrologer failed miserably. Some of them were very

> " famous. " I was told I would never be married and if I did get

married

> it would be for no more than 2 years, that I would never have

children,

> a poor education, little interest in knowledge (philosophy is my

> favorite subject, both western and vedic).

>

> One astrologer told me I didn't have any younger sibling. I have 4

older

> siblings and one younger. The older ones all have

regular " ordinary "

> lives but the younger one has an international reputation and a

good

> deal of fame in his field.

>

> In otherwords, the opposite of what you propose has occurred. How

does

> your logic apply here?

>

> Warm Regards,

> Brendan

>

> While what you wrote here- that debilitation further weakens the

planet

> in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly logical and

clear

> to me,

>

> I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment of a planet

in

> MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that right?

> Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

> Thanks.

>

> Warmest wishes,

>

> Anna

|Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

> _____

>

February 9, 2004

In a message dated 02/09/2004 2:26:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, sarajit writes:

Sarajit,

March 13, 1949

12:32 am, Ballinasloe, Ireland (53n20, 8w13; TZ: GMT)

Lagna: a little more than 1 degree Scorpio.

Regards,

Brendan

Dear Brendan,

After I got the last post from Freedom, on Gurudevâ€™s comment on ur chart, it got it thinking and while I was pondering on that, I saw today ur mail, confirming what Freedom said in his mail. Now I canâ€™t say more. I need ur horoscope, which I have lost somehow, accidentally. There must be some cues present there which made Gurudev say that the Yama got confused.

Please send ur .JHD file, so that I can figure out. Send it to my personal mail ID.

Personally I am not convinced about the double negativity of debilitation of MK planet. Sanjayji once gave me one example for Scorpio Lagna and Sun, debilitated in the 12th house, and there was a great havoc because of that. I will search for that chart and shall share more once I find it. Probably its earstwhile USSRâ€™s chart.

Warm Regards

Sarajit

February 9, 2004

Dear Sarajit/ Brendan,

Are you not missing something? In Brendan's chart Jupiter aspects 9th

which is his mooltrikona in celestial chart. He also aspects the 7th

house. Of course if we had Brendan's chart it would be possible to see

other factors like Navamsa, NBR and position of Moon both natally and

in Navamsha (Jupiter's) too).

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Sarajit Poddar wrote:

||

Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Brendan,

After I got

the last post from Freedom, on Gurudev’s

comment on ur chart, it

got it thinking and while I was pondering on that, I saw

today ur mail,

confirming what Freedom said in his mail. Now I can’t

say more. I need ur horoscope,

which I have lost somehow, accidentally. There must be

some cues present there which made Gurudev

say that

the Yama got confused.

Please send ur .JHD file,

so that I can figure out. Send it to my personal mail

ID.

Personally I

am not convinced about the

double negativity of debilitation of MK planet. Sanjayji

once gave me one example for Scorpio Lagna and Sun, debilitated in the

12th

house, and there was a great havoc because of that. I will search for

that

chart and shall share more once I find it. Probably

its earstwhile USSR’s chart.

Warm Regards

Sarajit

-----Original

Message-----

Bpfeeley

[bpfeeley]

Monday, February

09, 2004

7:39 AM

To:

varahamihira

Re: |Sri

Varaha| Mantra

for planet in maranasthana

In a

message dated 02/08/2004

12:57:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, jyotish108

writes:

Hare Rama Krishna

Dearest Anna and Sarajit,

Please take a look at my chart and tell me what I should expect from

Jupiter

and the houses he lords (2nd and 5th) as well as the house he occupies

in

debilitation (3rd), his maranasthana.

Now what kind of result should I have seen in this life wrt my native

family,

marriage (he is the DK), birth of chilldren, knowledge and learning,

education,

degrees, Gurus, etc?

There is only one astrologer (our dear Sanjay) in this world to date

that was

able to tell me in completely clear terms what this Jupiter brought

into my

life and he was able to explain it with absolute clarity based on sound

rules.

Note that the Jupiter is also neecha in the Navamsa.

As I recall, Sanjay told me that with this Jupiter, "Yama comes to take

my

family and children away and he suddenly becomes confused and has to

leave and

return to his abode."

Every other astrologer failed miserably. Some of them were very

"famous." I was told I would never be married and if I did get

married it would be for no more than 2 years, that I would never have

children,

a poor education, little interest in knowledge (philosophy is my

favorite

subject, both western and vedic).

One astrologer told me I didn't have any younger sibling. I have 4

older

siblings and one younger. The older ones all have regular "ordinary"

lives but the younger one has an international reputation and a good

deal of

fame in his field.

In otherwords, the opposite of what you propose has occurred. How does

your

logic apply here?

Warm Regards,

Brendan

While what you wrote

here- that debilitation further weakens

the planet in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly

logical and

clear to me,

I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment of a planet in

MKS- by

extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that right? Anything

else- that

can modify, improve this bad condition?

Thanks.

Warmest wishes,

Anna

|Om

Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

February 10, 2004

Dear Lakshmi,

The nature of Jupiter’s association with the lagna and the Moon is

crucial to any jataka, as this will determine the functioning and the

quality of the dhi in the jataka’s life, while the Moon will show the

objective or the goal towards which the dhi is directed. Jupiter is thus

a vital link to the lagna and the Moon, and the relationship between the

three form certain important yogas, the most important of which is

Gajakesari yoga. The occurrence of the yoga in particular houses will

show the direction of the dhi. Look at Hitler and George Bush's charts.

They both have Gajakesari but in the third house. This shows that the

dhi is directed towards war and fighting. Compare these charts to that

of Sri Rama, in whose chart the yoga occurs in the first house. Hitler

had all the attributes of one born under this yoga. He was intelligent,

wealthy, full of fire, talented and well connected with kings and

government dignitaries and indeed he was famous, but if Rama was revered

for his Supreme Divinity, Hitler was renowned to be the embodiment of

evil. The Gajakesari Yoga in the case of Hitler occurs in the third

house. This made the dhi focus towards undesirable directions, in this

case, towards fighting and war. It is the same for George Bush. I know

of another horoscope where the yoga occurs in the 6th house. The native

is exceptionally intelligent and talented, was very wealthy at one point

of time, having achieved great heights in his profession and was well

connected with government officials. However the placement in the 6th

house, made him direct all his energies and his entire dhé shakti

towards fighting legal battles and in indulging in various conflicts

with a host of people. Subsequently, he lost his financial position and

the high status that he once enjoyed in society and is now engaged

solely in fighting litigation. So this placement of the Jupiter has

actually nullified the effects of the yoga. It would be interesting to

see Nutan's chart and your friends, firstly to determine whether they

have Gajakesari or not, and if so what is it's qualitative status.

Best regards,

Sarbani

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh]

Sunday, February 08, 2004 10:25 PM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sarajit,

Just thought of sharing this with you. In Puri conf. someone

(Goelji?) had shown the chart of actress Nutan. She had Gajakesari in

the 3rd house and she died of cancer.

My friend, Sudha, also died of cancer and she had Gajakesari in the

3rd house! It could be a coincidence, but still worth an

investigation.

Regards,

Lakshmi

>

> Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...]

> 08 February 2004 10:27

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Anna,

>

> Exaltation of the MKA planets reduces the blemish to a large extent,

> however that's not all. We need to see all the source of the

strengths

> to see the manifestation of the Marana Avasta at a particular arena

of

> life. Exaltation and debilitation are only positional strengths and

this

> shows that MKA planet shall not adversely affect the status/

position of

> the native. Please read my article on shadbala for interpretation of

> other sources of strengths. What Freedom wrote in one mail about

the day

> and night strength is the kala bala and has to be interpreted little

> differently. So the bottomline is that, we need to find out what

are the

> sources of strength of the MKA planet and those areas shall be

spared.

>

> I am some more views on MKA planets, which I do not know whether

> approved by Sanjayji. However, just for sharing and more

deliberations

> on the topic, I shall write it down. Like Debiltation, MKA is a

source

> of weakness to a planet. However the difference is that, while

> debilitation has to do with different signs, MKA has to do with

> different houses. As the strength of the dispositor becomes

important in

> the former case, I would tend to think that the strength of the

karaka

> becomes important to the Planets in the MKA. We know that if Saturn

is

> well placed in Kendra to lagna/ moon; exalted in the Navamsa, the

> debilitation of Jupiter is cancelled. We see here that, although

Saturn

> is the cause of debilitation of Jupiter, it has the key to cancel

the

> debilitation too. Hence if Jup is deb, strengthening Saturn could

be one

> of the solution to cancel the debility of Jup. However, if Jupiter

is in

> MKA in the 3rd house, it shall be so, irrespective of the sign

where it

> is placed. However, as houses are involved here, karaka takes the

> precedence compared to the dispositor of Jupiter and I would tend to

> think that the strength of Karaka Mars is important to cancel such

state

> of MKA. Take my case, Jup in MKA, however, Mars the Karaka for 3rd,

is

> the AK and placed in the 9th and own Navamsa showing that, I (AK)

shall

> be able to cancel the avastha of Jupiter. Jup rules 1st and 4th and

> hence my health (1st) and mother (4th) (also because karaka for

mother

> is deb in both rasi and Navamsa) shall suffer. But I realized that

the

> key to uplift both from the condition lies with me (Mars-AK).

>

> Please ponder on it. You might hit some better clues on

judgement. :-)

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> 108 ar [jyotish108@c...]

> Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:56 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> Dear Sarajit,

> While what you wrote here- that debilitation further weakens the

planet

> in MKS, and is thus the worst condition- is perfectly logical and

clear

> to me,

> I am wondering about potential sources of empowerment of a planet in

> MKS- by extension it seems exaltation would do that-is that right?

> Anything else- that can modify, improve this bad condition?

> Thanks.

> Warmest wishes,

> Anna

>

> -

> " Sarajit Poddar "

> Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:23:30 +0800

> To:

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Freedom,

>

> I cannot agree with you on the last point that deb MKA planet is

good.

> What I remember from Gurudev's teaching that this is the most

weakest

> position of the planet and the houses ruled are not spared, even a

> little bit. This is the most dangerous position, unless there is

> cancellation of debilitation.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> Freedom [freedom@s...]

> Monday, February 02, 2004 5:36 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> For Maranakaraka planets you need life rejuvenating mantras, bijas

like

> JuM. You can use t he various forms of Shiva accordingly to the

graha.

> For example a good one for Venus is

> Aum Namah Sivaya Triambakaya Haum Jum Sah

> Others can be calculated according to mantra shastra rules.

>

> Its important to keep in mind:

> 1. Day strong planets in maranakarakasthana are not as bad for

person

> born in the day time.

> Night strong planets maranakarakasthana are not bad if person is

born in

> the night.

> Mars is bad in 7th in Rasi if born in daytime, but will make one

> brilliant if born at night (malefics are strong at night)

> Moon in 8th at night birth is good merely b/c person was born at

night

> Mangalik dosa will not show short temper if born at night, if day

birth

> then short tempered and will be easily defeated

>

> Those born in day-benefics are stronger person born at night-

malefics

> are stronger

>

> Mercury in 7th house maranakaraka is not that bad day or night

because

> he is strong in both.

>

> 2. Sometimes maranakarakastha na is good. If the planet is inimical

to

> the lagna it can be beneficial to the chart. For example, a Jupiter

Rahu

> conj can cause havoc, but when maranakarakasthana in the 3rd it has

less

> power to harm.

>

> 3. Debilitated maranakarakasthana planet is reversed. For example,

> neecha Guru in the 3rd will give Jupiter's good results.

>

> Namah Sivaya

> Freedom

> onlyhari [onlyhari]

> Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:57 PM

> varahamihira

> |Sri Varaha| Mantra for planet in maranasthana

>

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Gurus and Jyotishas,

>

> How to deduce the specific mantra for strengthening of a planet in

> maranasthana?

>

> For eg., if Sun is in 12th, should we prescribe a 12 akshara

mantra?

> How to derive this mantra? If Moon is in 8th, should a 8 akshara

> mantra be prescribed? Can Jyotirlinga mantras for this specific

> purpose be used?

>

> How to choose between prescription of mantra or gem for planet in

> maranasthana?

>

> If somebody can explain with examples (and observed effects) that

> would be great.

>

> thanks and regards

> Hari

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

February 10, 2004

Dear Brendan,

With the data you have given, I get Scorpio 2 degrees 16 minutes and

odd seconds. Os this correct.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Bpfeeley wrote:

In a message dated 02/09/2004 2:26:47 AM Eastern

Standard Time, sarajit writes:

Sarajit,

March 13, 1949

12:32 am, Ballinasloe, Ireland (53n20, 8w13; TZ: GMT)

Lagna: a little more than 1 degree Scorpio.

Regards,

Brendan

Dear Brendan,

Â

After I got the last post from Freedom, on

Gurudevâ€™s comment on ur chart, it got it thinking and while I was

pondering on that, I saw today ur mail, confirming what Freedom said in

his mail. Now I canâ€™t say more. I need ur horoscope, which I have lost

somehow, accidentally. There must be some cues present there which made

Gurudev say that the Yama got confused.

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Please send ur .JHD file, so that I can figure

out. Send it to my personal mail ID.

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Personally I am not convinced about the double

negativity of debilitation of MK planet. Sanjayji once gave me one

example for Scorpio Lagna and Sun, debilitated in the 12th house, and

there was a great havoc because of that. I will search for that chart

and shall share more once I find it. Probably its earstwhile USSRâ€™s

chart.

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Warm Regards

Sarajit

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