Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Sanjayji, Regarding the placement of planet in the lagna in the punya chakra the different planets have been alloted specific durations. What is the period for Rahu/ketu. If the Rahu or Ketu is placed in lagna in how there navamsha position be reckoned in ascertaining how may days/months the atma will be wondering on earth Does the Maheshwara planet plays any important role in the punya chakra. Kindly guide me. Yours shishya, Dewavrat Buit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Hare Rama Krsna, From my understanding if Rahu or Ketu are in the lagna the soul can be stuck in this plane until proper propitiation and help is given to the soul. Rahu will show the person died by foul means of some sort and Ketu will show the death was a mistake or accident. I had a chart of a newly wed couple who died in a motorcycle accident and lagna had Ketu. Just seeing the chart Sanjay said the death was an accident and unless the correct mantras, etc were done the souls would not be able to leave. There is a dictum 'Kaloh chandi vinayako' which I understand means we should worship Ganesh if Ketu is in the lagna and Chandi if Rahu is in the lagna. These are the deities needed to propitiate to help the soul cross. Namah Sivaya dewavrat2000 [dewavrat2000] Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:59 AM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| punya chakra OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Sanjayji, Regarding the placement of planet in the lagna in the punya chakra the different planets have been alloted specific durations. What is the period for Rahu/ketu. If the Rahu or Ketu is placed in lagna in how there navamsha position be reckoned in ascertaining how may days/months the atma will be wondering on earth Does the Maheshwara planet plays any important role in the punya chakra. Kindly guide me. Yours shishya, Dewavrat Buit |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Freedom, I am not sure if I have understood this correctly. "Rahu will show the person died by foul means of some sort and Ketuwill show the death was a mistake or accident." Does this apply to present birth? In case of a living person, such positions would indicate the likely cause of death? Kind regards Ramesh Freedom [freedom]Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:01 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| punya chakraHare Rama Krsna,From my understanding if Rahu or Ketu are in the lagna the soul can bestuck in this plane until proper propitiation and help is given to thesoul. Rahu will show the person died by foul means of some sort and Ketuwill show the death was a mistake or accident. I had a chart of a newly wed couple who died in a motorcycle accidentand lagna had Ketu. Just seeing the chart Sanjay said the death was anaccident and unless the correct mantras, etc were done the souls wouldnot be able to leave. There is a dictum 'Kaloh chandi vinayako' which Iunderstand means we should worship Ganesh if Ketu is in the lagna andChandi if Rahu is in the lagna. These are the deities needed topropitiate to help the soul cross.Namah Sivaya dewavrat2000 [dewavrat2000] Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:59 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| punya chakraOM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYADear shri Sanjayji,Regarding the placement of planet in the lagna in the punya chakra the different planets have been alloted specific durations. What is the period for Rahu/ketu. If the Rahu or Ketu is placed in lagna in how there navamsha position be reckoned in ascertaining how may days/months the atma will be wondering on earthDoes the Maheshwara planet plays any important role in the punya chakra.Kindly guide me.Yours shishya,Dewavrat Buit|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Hare Krishna Dear Freedom, Yes when you think of it, Ketu in a natal chart aspected by Mars is one combination for pisacha (ghostly haunted yoga) Ketu/Mars indicates mistakes,,accidents when a person dies violently or under the influence of drugs and alcohol then they can be stuck as ghost for awhile. I also would imagaine the nodes could indicate comas or coma state. didtn Sanjay mention that in the class? Rahu and Ketu can indicate obsession and confusion. like what might happen when a person dies, unexpectantly or might be too attached to their body. im just guessing, with regards, Lakshmi--- In varahamihira , " Freedom " <freedom@s...> wrote: > Hare Rama Krsna, > From my understanding if Rahu or Ketu are in the lagna the soul can be > stuck in this plane until proper propitiation and help is given to the > soul. Rahu will show the person died by foul means of some sort and Ketu > will show the death was a mistake or accident. > I had a chart of a newly wed couple who died in a motorcycle accident > and lagna had Ketu. Just seeing the chart Sanjay said the death was an > accident and unless the correct mantras, etc were done the souls would > not be able to leave. There is a dictum 'Kaloh chandi vinayako' which I > understand means we should worship Ganesh if Ketu is in the lagna and > Chandi if Rahu is in the lagna. These are the deities needed to > propitiate to help the soul cross. > > Namah Sivaya > > > dewavrat2000 [dewavrat2000] > Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:59 AM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| punya chakra > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA > > > Dear shri Sanjayji, > > Regarding the placement of planet in the lagna in the punya chakra > the different planets have been alloted specific durations. What is > the period for Rahu/ketu. If the Rahu or Ketu is placed in lagna in > how there navamsha position be reckoned in ascertaining how may > days/months the atma will be wondering on earth > > Does the Maheshwara planet plays any important role in the punya > chakra. > > Kindly guide me. > > Yours shishya, > > > Dewavrat Buit > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Hare Krishna Dear Ramesh, yes, the idea is the same , but look to 3rd.8th from AL for death and causes of death in current lifetime. But yes i would say , that if a person has Ketu in lagna there is a possiblity they died and unnatural death or were in ghostly body before they took new form. see my other post. If you have accurate birth time you can look at D-60 and collaborate teh whole thing, and see what karma person is bringing with them in current life. with regrads, Lakshmi Kary varahamihira , " Ramesh Gangaramani " <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Freedom, > > I am not sure if I have understood this correctly. " Rahu will show the > person died by foul means of some sort and Ketu > will show the death was a mistake or accident. " Does this apply to present > birth? In case of a living person, such positions would indicate the likely > cause of death? > > Kind regards > Ramesh > > > Freedom [freedom@s...] > Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:01 PM > varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > From my understanding if Rahu or Ketu are in the lagna the soul can be > stuck in this plane until proper propitiation and help is given to the > soul. Rahu will show the person died by foul means of some sort and Ketu > will show the death was a mistake or accident. > I had a chart of a newly wed couple who died in a motorcycle accident > and lagna had Ketu. Just seeing the chart Sanjay said the death was an > accident and unless the correct mantras, etc were done the souls would > not be able to leave. There is a dictum 'Kaloh chandi vinayako' which I > understand means we should worship Ganesh if Ketu is in the lagna and > Chandi if Rahu is in the lagna. These are the deities needed to > propitiate to help the soul cross. > > Namah Sivaya > > > dewavrat2000 [dewavrat2000] > Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:59 AM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| punya chakra > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA > > > Dear shri Sanjayji, > > Regarding the placement of planet in the lagna in the punya chakra > the different planets have been alloted specific durations. What is > the period for Rahu/ketu. If the Rahu or Ketu is placed in lagna in > how there navamsha position be reckoned in ascertaining how may > days/months the atma will be wondering on earth > > Does the Maheshwara planet plays any important role in the punya > chakra. > > Kindly guide me. > > Yours shishya, > > > Dewavrat Buit > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Dear Freedom, Is the dictum applicable to chart of Swami Vivekananda too? I think Sanjay had other reasons for saying what he did, there must have been other influences. Unless the observation applies to Punya Chart only. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Chandrashekhar. Freedom wrote: > Hare Rama Krsna, > >From my understanding if Rahu or Ketu are in the lagna the soul can be > stuck in this plane until proper propitiation and help is given to the > soul. Rahu will show the person died by foul means of some sort and Ketu > will show the death was a mistake or accident. > I had a chart of a newly wed couple who died in a motorcycle accident > and lagna had Ketu. Just seeing the chart Sanjay said the death was an > accident and unless the correct mantras, etc were done the souls would > not be able to leave. There is a dictum 'Kaloh chandi vinayako' which I > understand means we should worship Ganesh if Ketu is in the lagna and > Chandi if Rahu is in the lagna. These are the deities needed to > propitiate to help the soul cross. > > Namah Sivaya > > > dewavrat2000 [dewavrat2000] > Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:59 AM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| punya chakra > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA > > > Dear shri Sanjayji, > > Regarding the placement of planet in the lagna in the punya chakra > the different planets have been alloted specific durations. What is > the period for Rahu/ketu. If the Rahu or Ketu is placed in lagna in > how there navamsha position be reckoned in ascertaining how may > days/months the atma will be wondering on earth > > Does the Maheshwara planet plays any important role in the punya > chakra. > > Kindly guide me. > > Yours shishya, > > > Dewavrat Buit > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Namaste Chandrashekarji, Yes, it only applies to the Punya Chart. To tell if it will happen we see in 3rd or 8th from AL and to see if it happened in last life we see D60. Do you have Vivekananda's punya chart? The info must be available somewhere. Namah Sivaya Chandrashekhar [boxdel] Friday, February 06, 2004 1:05 AM varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Dear Freedom, Is the dictum applicable to chart of Swami Vivekananda too? I think Sanjay had other reasons for saying what he did, there must have been other influences. Unless the observation applies to Punya Chart only. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Chandrashekhar. Freedom wrote: > Hare Rama Krsna, > >From my understanding if Rahu or Ketu are in the lagna the soul can be > stuck in this plane until proper propitiation and help is given to the > soul. Rahu will show the person died by foul means of some sort and Ketu > will show the death was a mistake or accident. > I had a chart of a newly wed couple who died in a motorcycle accident > and lagna had Ketu. Just seeing the chart Sanjay said the death was an > accident and unless the correct mantras, etc were done the souls would > not be able to leave. There is a dictum 'Kaloh chandi vinayako' which I > understand means we should worship Ganesh if Ketu is in the lagna and > Chandi if Rahu is in the lagna. These are the deities needed to > propitiate to help the soul cross. > > Namah Sivaya > > > dewavrat2000 [dewavrat2000] > Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:59 AM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| punya chakra > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA > > > Dear shri Sanjayji, > > Regarding the placement of planet in the lagna in the punya chakra > the different planets have been alloted specific durations. What is > the period for Rahu/ketu. If the Rahu or Ketu is placed in lagna in > how there navamsha position be reckoned in ascertaining how may > days/months the atma will be wondering on earth > > Does the Maheshwara planet plays any important role in the punya > chakra. > > Kindly guide me. > > Yours shishya, > > > Dewavrat Buit > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Anna, (You made me laugh !!) A planet in the 8th in Trimsamsa gives the results that are connected to past life (incarnation). Mine is Venus in parivatana with Jupiter. Hence they were doing each other’s work. Rx Saturn conjuncts Jupiter in 6th. In D-60, Jupiter and Venus conjoin and Rx Saturn is in a trine in debility from them. Ah, to have to come back and re-do the work…might as well collect my punya for this lifetime for the next J. Best regards, Swee 108 ar [jyotish108] 06 February 2004 20:01 varahamihira RE: [spam] Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Thanks, Swee. You said: " 7th is from previous. 1st is for the next. " - What about this one/I asked about/? Anna - " Swee Chan " Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:37:12 +0200 Subject: RE: [spam] Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Jaya Jagannatha Dear Anna, Dear Lakshmi, dear Ramesh, I've read both posts, Lakshmi, and still am not sure whether Rahu/ketu indicate /most likely/ type of death in a previous life, or /most likely/ cause of death in this one /which Freedom's example-and Sanjay's comment, in particular- implies/, or both? Aside from AL 3rd, 8th..etc considerations. Thanks, Anna 7th is from previous. 1st is for the next. Best regards, Swee swee www.brihaspati.net |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira _______________ -- _________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Dear Swee, you are so sweet. And egocentricity is so strange to you, it's moving! "Trimsamsa"! you finally said- that was on your mind!-only /see bellow/ Thanks so very much, Anna -"Swee Chan" Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:27:31 +0200Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Jaya Jagannatha/ o:p> Dear Anna, (You made me laugh !!) A planet in the 8th in Trimsamsa gives the results that are connected to past life (incarnation). Mine is Venus in parivatana with Jupiter. Hence they were doing each other’s work. Rx Saturn conjuncts Jupiter in 6th. In D-60, Jupiter and Venus conjoin and Rx Saturn is in a trine in debility from them. Ah, to have to come back and re-do the work…might as well collect my punya for this lifetime for the next J. Best regards, Swee 108 ar [jyotish108] 06 February 2004 20:01varahamihira Subject: RE: [spam] Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Thanks, Swee. You said: "7th is from previous. 1st is for the next."- What about this one/I asked about/?Anna -"Swee Chan" Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:37:12 +0200RE: [spam] Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Jaya Jagannatha Dear Anna, Dear Lakshmi, dear Ramesh, I've read both posts, Lakshmi, and still am not sure whether Rahu/ketu indicate /most likely/ type of death in a previous life, or /most likely/ cause of death in this one /which Freedom's example-and Sanjay's comment, in particular- implies/, or both?Aside from AL 3rd, 8th..etc considerations. Thanks, Anna 7th is from previous. 1st is for the next. Best regards, Swee swee www.brihaspati.net |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira _______________ -- _________Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.comhttp://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira _______________ -- _________Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Dear Anna, Yes, does sound confusing, doesn’t it? A planet in the 7th house (obviously has direct aspect to the truth/satya). But trimsamsa never has nice things to say, and that is why we are back here!! The ascendant in trimsamsa decides the type of sufferings we will be put through and the 8th in Trimsamsa tells us of our past. Love, Swee (t) 108 ar [jyotish108] 07 February 2004 10:47 varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Dear Swee, you are so sweet. And egocentricity is so strange to you, it's moving! " Trimsamsa " ! you finally said- that was on your mind!-only /see bellow/ Thanks so very much, Anna - " Swee Chan " Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:27:31 +0200 Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Jaya Jagannatha / o:p> Dear Anna, (You made me laugh !!) A planet in the 8th in Trimsamsa gives the results that are connected to past life (incarnation). Mine is Venus in parivatana with Jupiter. Hence they were doing each other’s work. Rx Saturn conjuncts Jupiter in 6th. In D-60, Jupiter and Venus conjoin and Rx Saturn is in a trine in debility from them. Ah, to have to come back and re-do the work…might as well collect my punya for this lifetime for the next J. Best regards, Swee 108 ar [jyotish108] 06 February 2004 20:01 varahamihira RE: [spam] Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Thanks, Swee. You said: " 7th is from previous. 1st is for the next. " - What about this one/I asked about/? Anna - " Swee Chan " Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:37:12 +0200 Subject: RE: [spam] Re: |Sri Varaha| punya chakra Jaya Jagannatha Dear Anna, Dear Lakshmi, dear Ramesh, I've read both posts, Lakshmi, and still am not sure whether Rahu/ketu indicate /most likely/ type of death in a previous life, or /most likely/ cause of death in this one /which Freedom's example-and Sanjay's comment, in particular- implies/, or both? Aside from AL 3rd, 8th..etc considerations. Thanks, Anna 7th is from previous. 1st is for the next. Best regards, Swee swee www.brihaspati.net |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira _______________ -- _________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira _______________ -- _________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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