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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Learned members,

 

While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding.

 

Kind regards

Ramesh

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Sorry! I forgot to add that Mars is also a Yogadha, aspects Lagna, placed in 7th from GL and aspects HL. Would a yogadha status alter the malefic quality of the planet?

 

Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:50 AMVarahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Learned members,

 

While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding.

 

Kind regards

Ramesh|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Ramesh,

 

The exception to the rule is when the well

placed benefic conjoins a malefic, the malefic takes

over during the period of the benefic.

Basic rule.

 

Best wishes,

 

Swee

swee

www.brihaspati.net

 

 

 

Ramesh Gangaramani

[ramesh.gangaramani]

19 February 2004 09:50

Varahamihira Group

|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of

Dusthana Lords.

 

 

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Learned members,

 

 

 

 

 

While reading Sanjayji's book on

Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji

has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be

realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic.

Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception.

I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for

my better understanding.

 

 

 

 

 

Kind regards

 

 

Ramesh

 

 

 

|Om

Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

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hi ramesh,

read more on this in latest jyotish digest. i think sanjay ji has written on vipreet rajyoga which narasimha rao had in his 10th house.

mars involved in vipreet rajyoga was the cause of his primeminister -ship , & one can easily notice this from mode of working of this yoga in his case. i hope u r aware of bribery case associated with susteance of his government. he actually wore red coral , & he won the no-confidence motion , as well manged to escape the court case.

regards

prashantRamesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

 

Sorry! I forgot to add that Mars is also a Yogadha, aspects Lagna, placed in 7th from GL and aspects HL. Would a yogadha status alter the malefic quality of the planet?

 

Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:50 AMVarahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Learned members,

 

While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding.

 

Kind regards

Ramesh|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira re

 

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Prashant,

Thank you for your mail. I will try to get a copy of the article.

Regards

Ramesh

 

prashant narang [prashantnarang]Friday, February 20, 2004 4:42 AMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

hi ramesh,

read more on this in latest jyotish digest. i think sanjay ji has written on vipreet rajyoga which narasimha rao had in his 10th house.

mars involved in vipreet rajyoga was the cause of his primeminister -ship , & one can easily notice this from mode of working of this yoga in his case. i hope u r aware of bribery case associated with susteance of his government. he actually wore red coral , & he won the no-confidence motion , as well manged to escape the court case.

regards

prashantRamesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

 

Sorry! I forgot to add that Mars is also a Yogadha, aspects Lagna, placed in 7th from GL and aspects HL. Would a yogadha status alter the malefic quality of the planet?

 

Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:50 AMVarahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Learned members,

 

While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding.

 

Kind regards

Ramesh|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira re

 

 

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Swee,

Thank you for explaining.

Regards

Ramesh

 

Swee Chan [swee]Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:31 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Ramesh,

 

The exception to the rule is when the well placed benefic conjoins a malefic, the malefic takes over during the period of the benefic.Basic rule.

 

Best wishes,

 

Swee

swee

www.brihaspati.net

 

Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani] 19 February 2004 09:50Varahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

 

 

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

 

 

Dear Learned members,

 

 

 

While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding.

 

 

 

Kind regards

 

Ramesh

|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Swee,

 

I have a related question. In my chart too, there is a VRY

of PV Narasimha Rao kind, happening in lagna. The 3rd and 8th

lords conjoin lagna lord in a quadrant and there is a transfer

of power. Moon is strong as it is the GL lord; is in ascendant

with ascendant lord and in mutual aspect with hora lagna lord.

Further Moon is in pushkara navamsa, so moon is stronger than Saturn,

who though has chesta bala, is in marana karaka avastha. The VRY, I

presume, will happen during jupiter dasa. I did have great times

during chandra dasa, but can't see them as the result of VRY.

 

Now, I already wear a topaz on my right hand. Will wearing a pearl,

in addition, for Moon further strengthen the raja yoga? I suppose

strengthening Moon will strengthen Jupiter also.

 

Similarly, it could have been the case with PV Narasimha Rao. When he

wore a coral, he strengthened Mars, which automatically strengthened

the Sun and the raja yoga too.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

>

> Swee Chan [swee@c...]

> Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:31 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

>

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

>

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

>

>

> The exception to the rule is when the well placed benefic

conjoins a

> malefic, the malefic takes over during the period of the benefic.

> Basic rule.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Swee

>

> swee@b...

>

> www.brihaspati.net

>

>

>

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]

> 19 February 2004 09:50

> Varahamihira Group

> |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

>

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

>

> Dear Learned members,

>

>

>

> While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the

example of

> ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for

> strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is

8L and 3L

> for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are

normally not

> recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate

if any

> one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better

> understanding.

>

>

>

> Kind regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

|Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

>

>

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Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Lakshmi,

 

I admit I have not read the article, but the basic point to remember is

that during Jupiter and Moon periods, the malefic planet conjoining them

will take over their significations, which is basically the gist of it.

Both Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords of Aquarius and hence they are

both avayogis. You can time these down times during the transit of your

Badhaka Mercury in rasi dristi of the movable signs and also the dual

signs due both their placements.

Though Sun is of Uttamäsa strength and is a yogi planet, a rise was

certain in which you would have experienced during its mahadasa, also

all AD and PD periods.

 

Though Ketu is the Yogi planet as well, both their dispositors are in

marana sthanas.

 

Your Jupiter alone shines over everything else and is capable of

overpowering your Badhaka (Grace of God that he is not retrograde).

Jupiter is also in Simhasana! So he takes the throne in your chart.

Hence this is the gemstone for Jupiter is for life as it also showers

protection over your 2nd , 3rd, 6th, 8th, and also its natural karakatwa

on the 9th + Badhakesh besides having rasi dristi over your kendras. So,

what more?

 

Badhaka with Rahu in marana suggests that you should present the best

sandal chandan to your Guru.

 

Functionally, Moon is your malefic as it is your 8th lord and is lord of

GL and SL, that it is a yogada, is fine but Badhaka is 8th from it. It

is also not well disposed in Navamsa.

Personally, I would recommend naivadya (offerings of food) for enhancing

the blessings from Moon. Then in a roundabout way, you can get its

blessings via Guru which is Saturn in the charakaraka scheme of things.

The other upaya for Moon is to give away a Pearl to your Jyotish Guru

(8th lord in rasi Sg/Guru).

 

The combination of the 3 in your lagna certainly completes the picture

for your ability in scriptures, probing mind into the occult etc etc.

 

love,

 

Swee

swee

www.brihaspati.net

p/s I've just learnt from the Purana that women should drop the " Om " of

the above mantra, giving this 11 syllables instead of 12 This makes it a

dripta (arrogant) mantra. Any idea?

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Swee,

I have some doubts.

1. In this case, Mars is malefic and Mercury the benefic. So Mars will take over during the period of Mercury? The book speaks of Narasimha Rao becoming Prime Minister during the dasa of Mars! (page: 131) I shall appreciate if you can clarify. Dasas have probably been seen from Lagna Nakshatra in this case as my software shows that he has not gone through Mars or Sun MDs from Moon Nakshatra as yet.

2. In this case if benefic Mercury was not conjoined with Mars, Coral may not have been recommended?

Regards

Ramesh

 

Swee Chan [swee]Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:31 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Ramesh,

 

The exception to the rule is when the well placed benefic conjoins a malefic, the malefic takes over during the period of the benefic.Basic rule.

 

Best wishes,

 

Swee

swee

www.brihaspati.net

 

Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani] 19 February 2004 09:50Varahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords.

 

 

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

 

 

Dear Learned members,

 

 

 

While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding.

 

 

 

Kind regards

 

Ramesh

|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Swee,

 

Thanks a lot for your very detailed answer and your kind words.

I am sure all of us have some planetary formations which resulted in

this primal attraction for occult.

 

And, gifting a pearl to Sanjayji will certainly be my privilege and

hope Guruji would bless me by accepting it. Coincidentally, I

remember you saying in the class at Puri that Sanjayji should be

wearing a pearl and that would be good for him.

 

Swee, I have always admired your confidence when it comes to

prescribing various remedies. Similarly I do not yet have the ability

to give out correct mantras for chanting, like say Visti, Freedom or

Sarbani. I only pray...not counting on anything else except my faith.

Not a very competent approach, I must say. A complete astrologer

should not only be able to spot problems, but also help with the

solutions and I am still miles away from that. I am only at the

experimental stage and i thought i, myself, would make an admirable

guinea pig. Anyway now that I have started, I am afraid you must

bear with my juvenile questions for some more time to come:-))

 

Ofcourse, I will continue to cherish my topaz. I have been wearing it

for so long that it's virtually a part of my body. I just thought I

can experiment with the pearl too, as Moon, as 8th lord, is a mild

malefic and perhaps would not really hurt.

 

BTW, is the strength of VRY ( by definition, not a very pleasant

rajayoga) directly proportionate to the malefic nature of the lords

of dusthana? I mean, would Mars or Saturn as 8th lord give a greater

VRY than say a benefic like Jupiter or Venus?

 

Thanks again,

 

Love

Lakshmi

 

P.s: Swee, i read that any planet in pushkaramsa is deemed to be as

strong as a vargottama planet. Hence i thought my moon is strong.

Ofcourse it is in the 12th from navamsa lagna, but remember Moon is

my Ishta and which other planet can better lead me to the 12th house

than Her? And, what else matters more than the 12th house? That's the

Throne.

 

varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> I admit I have not read the article, but the basic point to

remember is

> that during Jupiter and Moon periods, the malefic planet conjoining

them

> will take over their significations, which is basically the gist of

it.

> Both Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords of Aquarius and hence they are

> both avayogis. You can time these down times during the transit of

your

> Badhaka Mercury in rasi dristi of the movable signs and also the

dual

> signs due both their placements.

> Though Sun is of Uttamäsa strength and is a yogi planet, a rise was

> certain in which you would have experienced during its mahadasa,

also

> all AD and PD periods.

>

> Though Ketu is the Yogi planet as well, both their dispositors are

in

> marana sthanas.

>

> Your Jupiter alone shines over everything else and is capable of

> overpowering your Badhaka (Grace of God that he is not retrograde).

> Jupiter is also in Simhasana! So he takes the throne in your chart.

> Hence this is the gemstone for Jupiter is for life as it also

showers

> protection over your 2nd , 3rd, 6th, 8th, and also its natural

karakatwa

> on the 9th + Badhakesh besides having rasi dristi over your

kendras. So,

> what more?

>

> Badhaka with Rahu in marana suggests that you should present the

best

> sandal chandan to your Guru.

>

> Functionally, Moon is your malefic as it is your 8th lord and is

lord of

> GL and SL, that it is a yogada, is fine but Badhaka is 8th from

it. It

> is also not well disposed in Navamsa.

> Personally, I would recommend naivadya (offerings of food) for

enhancing

> the blessings from Moon. Then in a roundabout way, you can get its

> blessings via Guru which is Saturn in the charakaraka scheme of

things.

> The other upaya for Moon is to give away a Pearl to your Jyotish

Guru

> (8th lord in rasi Sg/Guru).

>

> The combination of the 3 in your lagna certainly completes the

picture

> for your ability in scriptures, probing mind into the occult etc

etc.

>

> love,

>

> Swee

> swee@b...

> www.brihaspati.net

> p/s I've just learnt from the Purana that women should drop

the " Om " of

> the above mantra, giving this 11 syllables instead of 12 This makes

it a

> dripta (arrogant) mantra. Any idea?

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||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Namaste Lakshmi Ramesh,

 

> Swee, I have always admired your confidence when it comes to

> prescribing various remedies. Similarly I do not yet have the

> ability to give out correct mantras for chanting, like say Visti,

> Freedom or Sarbani. I only pray...not counting on anything else

> except my faith.

> Not a very competent approach, I must say. A complete astrologer

> should not only be able to spot problems, but also help with the

> solutions and I am still miles away from that. I am only at the

> experimental stage

 

I wanted to comment on this but forgot as usual until your mail

reminded me today! I just want to share my feelings on this topic.

 

Look at me, a fellow who doesnt even know his native mother language

(Tamil) nor Sanskrit and yet I am dishing out mantras to whoever

asks me! The confidence comes not from my knowledge of the remedies

(just finished VRA; engrossed in case studies part) but from my

desire to help the people who are in trouble. So far I was saying

simple prayers like Sri Ramajayam and so on but when that enigmatic

AK Mars mahadasa started, here I am reading chammakkam (3 pages

daily) and what not, trying out mantras daily and observing their

effect. Even my mother was amazed to see me pronouncing the mantras

fairly correctly. And I learnt it the hard way; no teacher to wield

the cane.

 

So thats the key; study, observe, learn and then pass on your

experience to help others. One thing; most of these mantras are

designed to be self-correcting with respect to pronounciation. So

dont worry; from what I have observed of you, you have vast

experience and immovable faith in Balaji so definitely your advice

will prove to light a tiny spark in the kindred souls who come to

you for help.

 

regards

Hari

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Hari,

 

Thanks for your bracing words. I am sure that with the encouragement,

guidance and affection so abundantly available on the astrology

lists, my learning of mantra sastra would be quick and meaningful.

 

I also have 3 malefics in trines from my karakamsa, accompanied

ofcourse by the benevolent aspect of dwi-gurus, so learning the

intricacies of mantra sastra may not prove very difficult. So Cheers!

 

Thank you again,

Lakshmi

 

 

varahamihira , " onlyhari " <onlyhari> wrote:

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Namaste Lakshmi Ramesh,

>

> > Swee, I have always admired your confidence when it comes to

> > prescribing various remedies. Similarly I do not yet have the

> > ability to give out correct mantras for chanting, like say Visti,

> > Freedom or Sarbani. I only pray...not counting on anything else

> > except my faith.

> > Not a very competent approach, I must say. A complete astrologer

> > should not only be able to spot problems, but also help with the

> > solutions and I am still miles away from that. I am only at the

> > experimental stage

>

> I wanted to comment on this but forgot as usual until your mail

> reminded me today! I just want to share my feelings on this topic.

>

> Look at me, a fellow who doesnt even know his native mother

language

> (Tamil) nor Sanskrit and yet I am dishing out mantras to whoever

> asks me! The confidence comes not from my knowledge of the remedies

> (just finished VRA; engrossed in case studies part) but from my

> desire to help the people who are in trouble. So far I was saying

> simple prayers like Sri Ramajayam and so on but when that enigmatic

> AK Mars mahadasa started, here I am reading chammakkam (3 pages

> daily) and what not, trying out mantras daily and observing their

> effect. Even my mother was amazed to see me pronouncing the mantras

> fairly correctly. And I learnt it the hard way; no teacher to wield

> the cane.

>

> So thats the key; study, observe, learn and then pass on your

> experience to help others. One thing; most of these mantras are

> designed to be self-correcting with respect to pronounciation. So

> dont worry; from what I have observed of you, you have vast

> experience and immovable faith in Balaji so definitely your advice

> will prove to light a tiny spark in the kindred souls who come to

> you for help.

>

> regards

> Hari

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