Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Learned members, While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding. Kind regards Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Sorry! I forgot to add that Mars is also a Yogadha, aspects Lagna, placed in 7th from GL and aspects HL. Would a yogadha status alter the malefic quality of the planet? Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:50 AMVarahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Learned members, While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding. Kind regards Ramesh|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, The exception to the rule is when the well placed benefic conjoins a malefic, the malefic takes over during the period of the benefic. Basic rule. Best wishes, Swee swee www.brihaspati.net Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani] 19 February 2004 09:50 Varahamihira Group |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Learned members, While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding. Kind regards Ramesh |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 hi ramesh, read more on this in latest jyotish digest. i think sanjay ji has written on vipreet rajyoga which narasimha rao had in his 10th house. mars involved in vipreet rajyoga was the cause of his primeminister -ship , & one can easily notice this from mode of working of this yoga in his case. i hope u r aware of bribery case associated with susteance of his government. he actually wore red coral , & he won the no-confidence motion , as well manged to escape the court case. regards prashantRamesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani wrote: Sorry! I forgot to add that Mars is also a Yogadha, aspects Lagna, placed in 7th from GL and aspects HL. Would a yogadha status alter the malefic quality of the planet? Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:50 AMVarahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Learned members, While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding. Kind regards Ramesh|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira re Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Prashant, Thank you for your mail. I will try to get a copy of the article. Regards Ramesh prashant narang [prashantnarang]Friday, February 20, 2004 4:42 AMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. hi ramesh, read more on this in latest jyotish digest. i think sanjay ji has written on vipreet rajyoga which narasimha rao had in his 10th house. mars involved in vipreet rajyoga was the cause of his primeminister -ship , & one can easily notice this from mode of working of this yoga in his case. i hope u r aware of bribery case associated with susteance of his government. he actually wore red coral , & he won the no-confidence motion , as well manged to escape the court case. regards prashantRamesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani wrote: Sorry! I forgot to add that Mars is also a Yogadha, aspects Lagna, placed in 7th from GL and aspects HL. Would a yogadha status alter the malefic quality of the planet? Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:50 AMVarahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Learned members, While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding. Kind regards Ramesh|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira re Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swee, Thank you for explaining. Regards Ramesh Swee Chan [swee]Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:31 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, The exception to the rule is when the well placed benefic conjoins a malefic, the malefic takes over during the period of the benefic.Basic rule. Best wishes, Swee swee www.brihaspati.net Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani] 19 February 2004 09:50Varahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Learned members, While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding. Kind regards Ramesh |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Om Gurave Namah Dear Swee, I have a related question. In my chart too, there is a VRY of PV Narasimha Rao kind, happening in lagna. The 3rd and 8th lords conjoin lagna lord in a quadrant and there is a transfer of power. Moon is strong as it is the GL lord; is in ascendant with ascendant lord and in mutual aspect with hora lagna lord. Further Moon is in pushkara navamsa, so moon is stronger than Saturn, who though has chesta bala, is in marana karaka avastha. The VRY, I presume, will happen during jupiter dasa. I did have great times during chandra dasa, but can't see them as the result of VRY. Now, I already wear a topaz on my right hand. Will wearing a pearl, in addition, for Moon further strengthen the raja yoga? I suppose strengthening Moon will strengthen Jupiter also. Similarly, it could have been the case with PV Narasimha Rao. When he wore a coral, he strengthened Mars, which automatically strengthened the Sun and the raja yoga too. Regards, Lakshmi > > Swee Chan [swee@c...] > Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:31 PM > varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > The exception to the rule is when the well placed benefic conjoins a > malefic, the malefic takes over during the period of the benefic. > Basic rule. > > > > Best wishes, > > Swee > > swee@b... > > www.brihaspati.net > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani@a...] > 19 February 2004 09:50 > Varahamihira Group > |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Learned members, > > > > While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of > ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for > strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L > for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not > recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any > one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better > understanding. > > > > Kind regards > > Ramesh > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Dear Lakshmi, I admit I have not read the article, but the basic point to remember is that during Jupiter and Moon periods, the malefic planet conjoining them will take over their significations, which is basically the gist of it. Both Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords of Aquarius and hence they are both avayogis. You can time these down times during the transit of your Badhaka Mercury in rasi dristi of the movable signs and also the dual signs due both their placements. Though Sun is of Uttamäsa strength and is a yogi planet, a rise was certain in which you would have experienced during its mahadasa, also all AD and PD periods. Though Ketu is the Yogi planet as well, both their dispositors are in marana sthanas. Your Jupiter alone shines over everything else and is capable of overpowering your Badhaka (Grace of God that he is not retrograde). Jupiter is also in Simhasana! So he takes the throne in your chart. Hence this is the gemstone for Jupiter is for life as it also showers protection over your 2nd , 3rd, 6th, 8th, and also its natural karakatwa on the 9th + Badhakesh besides having rasi dristi over your kendras. So, what more? Badhaka with Rahu in marana suggests that you should present the best sandal chandan to your Guru. Functionally, Moon is your malefic as it is your 8th lord and is lord of GL and SL, that it is a yogada, is fine but Badhaka is 8th from it. It is also not well disposed in Navamsa. Personally, I would recommend naivadya (offerings of food) for enhancing the blessings from Moon. Then in a roundabout way, you can get its blessings via Guru which is Saturn in the charakaraka scheme of things. The other upaya for Moon is to give away a Pearl to your Jyotish Guru (8th lord in rasi Sg/Guru). The combination of the 3 in your lagna certainly completes the picture for your ability in scriptures, probing mind into the occult etc etc. love, Swee swee www.brihaspati.net p/s I've just learnt from the Purana that women should drop the " Om " of the above mantra, giving this 11 syllables instead of 12 This makes it a dripta (arrogant) mantra. Any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swee, I have some doubts. 1. In this case, Mars is malefic and Mercury the benefic. So Mars will take over during the period of Mercury? The book speaks of Narasimha Rao becoming Prime Minister during the dasa of Mars! (page: 131) I shall appreciate if you can clarify. Dasas have probably been seen from Lagna Nakshatra in this case as my software shows that he has not gone through Mars or Sun MDs from Moon Nakshatra as yet. 2. In this case if benefic Mercury was not conjoined with Mars, Coral may not have been recommended? Regards Ramesh Swee Chan [swee]Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:31 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, The exception to the rule is when the well placed benefic conjoins a malefic, the malefic takes over during the period of the benefic.Basic rule. Best wishes, Swee swee www.brihaspati.net Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani] 19 February 2004 09:50Varahamihira Group|Sri Varaha| Gemstone of Dusthana Lords. Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Learned members, While reading Sanjayji's book on Vimsottari dasa, I read the example of ex-PM Mr. P V Narasimha Rao. Sanjayji has recommended Coral for strengthening Mars so that fruits of VRY can be realized. Mars is 8L and 3L for Virgo Lagna and hence a strong malefic. Dusthana lords are normally not recommended and hence this may be an exception. I shall appreciate if any one of the members can explain logic in this case for my better understanding. Kind regards Ramesh |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Om Gurave Namah Dear Swee, Thanks a lot for your very detailed answer and your kind words. I am sure all of us have some planetary formations which resulted in this primal attraction for occult. And, gifting a pearl to Sanjayji will certainly be my privilege and hope Guruji would bless me by accepting it. Coincidentally, I remember you saying in the class at Puri that Sanjayji should be wearing a pearl and that would be good for him. Swee, I have always admired your confidence when it comes to prescribing various remedies. Similarly I do not yet have the ability to give out correct mantras for chanting, like say Visti, Freedom or Sarbani. I only pray...not counting on anything else except my faith. Not a very competent approach, I must say. A complete astrologer should not only be able to spot problems, but also help with the solutions and I am still miles away from that. I am only at the experimental stage and i thought i, myself, would make an admirable guinea pig. Anyway now that I have started, I am afraid you must bear with my juvenile questions for some more time to come:-)) Ofcourse, I will continue to cherish my topaz. I have been wearing it for so long that it's virtually a part of my body. I just thought I can experiment with the pearl too, as Moon, as 8th lord, is a mild malefic and perhaps would not really hurt. BTW, is the strength of VRY ( by definition, not a very pleasant rajayoga) directly proportionate to the malefic nature of the lords of dusthana? I mean, would Mars or Saturn as 8th lord give a greater VRY than say a benefic like Jupiter or Venus? Thanks again, Love Lakshmi P.s: Swee, i read that any planet in pushkaramsa is deemed to be as strong as a vargottama planet. Hence i thought my moon is strong. Ofcourse it is in the 12th from navamsa lagna, but remember Moon is my Ishta and which other planet can better lead me to the 12th house than Her? And, what else matters more than the 12th house? That's the Throne. varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > > Dear Lakshmi, > > I admit I have not read the article, but the basic point to remember is > that during Jupiter and Moon periods, the malefic planet conjoining them > will take over their significations, which is basically the gist of it. > Both Saturn and Rahu are the co-lords of Aquarius and hence they are > both avayogis. You can time these down times during the transit of your > Badhaka Mercury in rasi dristi of the movable signs and also the dual > signs due both their placements. > Though Sun is of Uttamäsa strength and is a yogi planet, a rise was > certain in which you would have experienced during its mahadasa, also > all AD and PD periods. > > Though Ketu is the Yogi planet as well, both their dispositors are in > marana sthanas. > > Your Jupiter alone shines over everything else and is capable of > overpowering your Badhaka (Grace of God that he is not retrograde). > Jupiter is also in Simhasana! So he takes the throne in your chart. > Hence this is the gemstone for Jupiter is for life as it also showers > protection over your 2nd , 3rd, 6th, 8th, and also its natural karakatwa > on the 9th + Badhakesh besides having rasi dristi over your kendras. So, > what more? > > Badhaka with Rahu in marana suggests that you should present the best > sandal chandan to your Guru. > > Functionally, Moon is your malefic as it is your 8th lord and is lord of > GL and SL, that it is a yogada, is fine but Badhaka is 8th from it. It > is also not well disposed in Navamsa. > Personally, I would recommend naivadya (offerings of food) for enhancing > the blessings from Moon. Then in a roundabout way, you can get its > blessings via Guru which is Saturn in the charakaraka scheme of things. > The other upaya for Moon is to give away a Pearl to your Jyotish Guru > (8th lord in rasi Sg/Guru). > > The combination of the 3 in your lagna certainly completes the picture > for your ability in scriptures, probing mind into the occult etc etc. > > love, > > Swee > swee@b... > www.brihaspati.net > p/s I've just learnt from the Purana that women should drop the " Om " of > the above mantra, giving this 11 syllables instead of 12 This makes it a > dripta (arrogant) mantra. Any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Namaste Lakshmi Ramesh, > Swee, I have always admired your confidence when it comes to > prescribing various remedies. Similarly I do not yet have the > ability to give out correct mantras for chanting, like say Visti, > Freedom or Sarbani. I only pray...not counting on anything else > except my faith. > Not a very competent approach, I must say. A complete astrologer > should not only be able to spot problems, but also help with the > solutions and I am still miles away from that. I am only at the > experimental stage I wanted to comment on this but forgot as usual until your mail reminded me today! I just want to share my feelings on this topic. Look at me, a fellow who doesnt even know his native mother language (Tamil) nor Sanskrit and yet I am dishing out mantras to whoever asks me! The confidence comes not from my knowledge of the remedies (just finished VRA; engrossed in case studies part) but from my desire to help the people who are in trouble. So far I was saying simple prayers like Sri Ramajayam and so on but when that enigmatic AK Mars mahadasa started, here I am reading chammakkam (3 pages daily) and what not, trying out mantras daily and observing their effect. Even my mother was amazed to see me pronouncing the mantras fairly correctly. And I learnt it the hard way; no teacher to wield the cane. So thats the key; study, observe, learn and then pass on your experience to help others. One thing; most of these mantras are designed to be self-correcting with respect to pronounciation. So dont worry; from what I have observed of you, you have vast experience and immovable faith in Balaji so definitely your advice will prove to light a tiny spark in the kindred souls who come to you for help. regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Hari, Thanks for your bracing words. I am sure that with the encouragement, guidance and affection so abundantly available on the astrology lists, my learning of mantra sastra would be quick and meaningful. I also have 3 malefics in trines from my karakamsa, accompanied ofcourse by the benevolent aspect of dwi-gurus, so learning the intricacies of mantra sastra may not prove very difficult. So Cheers! Thank you again, Lakshmi varahamihira , " onlyhari " <onlyhari> wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Namaste Lakshmi Ramesh, > > > Swee, I have always admired your confidence when it comes to > > prescribing various remedies. Similarly I do not yet have the > > ability to give out correct mantras for chanting, like say Visti, > > Freedom or Sarbani. I only pray...not counting on anything else > > except my faith. > > Not a very competent approach, I must say. A complete astrologer > > should not only be able to spot problems, but also help with the > > solutions and I am still miles away from that. I am only at the > > experimental stage > > I wanted to comment on this but forgot as usual until your mail > reminded me today! I just want to share my feelings on this topic. > > Look at me, a fellow who doesnt even know his native mother language > (Tamil) nor Sanskrit and yet I am dishing out mantras to whoever > asks me! The confidence comes not from my knowledge of the remedies > (just finished VRA; engrossed in case studies part) but from my > desire to help the people who are in trouble. So far I was saying > simple prayers like Sri Ramajayam and so on but when that enigmatic > AK Mars mahadasa started, here I am reading chammakkam (3 pages > daily) and what not, trying out mantras daily and observing their > effect. Even my mother was amazed to see me pronouncing the mantras > fairly correctly. And I learnt it the hard way; no teacher to wield > the cane. > > So thats the key; study, observe, learn and then pass on your > experience to help others. One thing; most of these mantras are > designed to be self-correcting with respect to pronounciation. So > dont worry; from what I have observed of you, you have vast > experience and immovable faith in Balaji so definitely your advice > will prove to light a tiny spark in the kindred souls who come to > you for help. > > regards > Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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