Saturn in fifth(Re:-SJC HYDERABAD, 14th march meeting)

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Dear Gurus,

 

We had convened the SJC hyderabad Meeting on 14th March 2004. We were doing a few charts, but as suggested by Guru Pt.Rath, we took up Jaimini Sutras.

 

We were stuck at a sutra which says that "SATURN ALONE IN FIFTH from swamsa MAKES for AN archer"

While i have saturn in alone, and i am not an archer, while another member of our group, has four planets including saturn in fifth from swamsa, and he is one.

 

1. PARTHA

Natal Chart

December 15, 1976Time: 8:27:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 77 E 12' 00"Latitude: 28 N 36' 00"

 

 

+--------------+|Sun Moo |Ven |Mnd Glk |Ket AL ||HL | | | || | | | || | | |

|| | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mar | | || | | ||

| | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||SatR

| | || | | || | | || | |

|| | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||JupR Rah | | |Asc Mer || | | |GL || | | |

|| | | | || | | | |+--------------+

2. RISHI RAJ MANGLESH

Natal Chart

February 19, 1981Time: 2:25:29Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 76 E 40' 00"Latitude: 32 N 02' 00"Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

+--------------+| | |Moo JupR | || | |SatR Ket | || | |HL | || | |

| || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mar GL | | ||Mnd Glk | | ||

| | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Asc

| |Ven || | | || | | || | |

|| | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Sun MerR | |AL || |Rah | | || | |

| || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Kindly look into this Pt.Rath, or else we shall give up reading Jaimini Sutras.and do something else.

best wishes

partha

 

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` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Partha,

Now I have some discrepency in the meaning of Swamsha.In JMUS by Sanjay Ji he has mentioned in 1.2.1 that Swamsha refers to Lagna Navamsha but again at the end of that para,he mentioned " Swa generally refers to Lagna and in broader sense ,includes Atma Karaka." That means he has given 2 contradictory meanings that Swamsha is either Lagnamsha or Karakamsha. Now which one we have to take into consideration ? But again Shri Sanjay Ji has mentioned in " Explanatory notes & Case studies " ,under the heading of "Swamsha ", ( Page 59 )that Swamsha has to be considered as Karakamsha and now I think we have to think that the word Swamsha means Karkamsha in Navamsha Chart.

Now Prof.P.S.Shastri Ji in his JMUS,he states Swamsha is Karakamsha and has given results as per AK's position in Navamsha.This has further made me confused.So now I wanted to clarify which one we have to take into consideration ? Either Swamsha is Lagnamsha or Karakamsha ?

Another Jyotish Scholar B.G.Acharya from Mangalore in his " Mandi and Upagrahas " book,he also mentions he results from Karakamsha and not from Lagnamsha.

So now TATRA SHANAU DHAANUSHKAH meaning has to be taken as Saturn alone in 5th house (From karakamsha )produces an Archer and in modern days this may include missiles,spears etc.

The same meaning is given by Prof.P.S.Shastri Ji also but he considers the results of Saturn alone in 2nd from Karakamsha makes one weild weapons of warefare.

Now Shri B.G.Acharya gives another Shloka " RAVAU KHADGADHARO JAATAH KUJE KUNTAAYUDHEE BHAVET.

SHANAU DHANURDHARO JNEYO RAAHAU CHA LOHAYANTRAVAAN." Meaning Sun in 5th from Karaksmha makes one live by the sword or a soldier,Mars in 5th from Karakasmha makes one weild the spear,Shani in the same position makes one weild weapons of warfare,and Rahu in the same position makes one manufacturer of machines of iron and steel.

So now when I get the meanings like the above from different books,which one we have to consider correctly ?

I hope only Sanjay Ji can give the correct answers to these questions.

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

 

partha sarathy <partvinu5 wrote:

 

Dear Gurus,

 

We had convened the SJC hyderabad Meeting on 14th March 2004. We were doing a few charts, but as suggested by Guru Pt.Rath, we took up Jaimini Sutras.

 

We were stuck at a sutra which says that "SATURN ALONE IN FIFTH from swamsa MAKES for AN archer"

While i have saturn in alone, and i am not an archer, while another member of our group, has four planets including saturn in fifth from swamsa, and he is one.

 

1. PARTHA

Natal Chart

December 15, 1976Time: 8:27:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 77 E 12' 00"Latitude: 28 N 36' 00"

 

 

+--------------+|Sun Moo |Ven |Mnd Glk |Ket AL ||HL | | | || | | | || | | |

|| | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mar | | || | | ||

| | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||SatR

| | || | | || | | || | |

|| | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||JupR Rah | | |Asc Mer || | | |GL || | | |

|| | | | || | | | |+--------------+

2. RISHI RAJ MANGLESH

Natal Chart

February 19, 1981Time: 2:25:29Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 76 E 40' 00"Latitude: 32 N 02' 00"Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

+--------------+| | |Moo JupR | || | |SatR Ket | || | |HL | || | |

| || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mar GL | | ||Mnd Glk | | ||

| | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Asc

| |Ven || | | || | | || | |

|| | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Sun MerR | |AL || |Rah | | || | |

| || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

Kindly look into this Pt.Rath, or else we shall give up reading Jaimini Sutras.and do something else.

best wishes

partha

 

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