Hora, Kala, Yama, and the division of time in a day

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Hari Om Namo Viswarupaya

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Hello Jyotisha's

 

I have been studying Hora periods of the day and have no clarity on

this.... I have read Narasimha's info in his book, Sanjay's books,

Visti's article which includes Tattva periods, and Freedom's

articles that depict Kalacharka, Lesson 6 from Sanjay, Message

4594, etc. yet clarity on this subject and it's applications allude

me.

This is so fundamental to own and comprehend this knowledge - I look

to the Guru's for their insight and learning.

 

The differences in definition i.e. when to use Yama defined times

and when to use MahaKala ( assume from Kalacharka) defined times.

Kaala for Remedial Measures using Kala Charaka indications?

Yama for the start of an action???

 

Let me see if I can articulate my issue in the 4 points below ( if

some one can recommend a book on this subject it will be most

welcome).

1. Sanjay's Explanation from Varga Charka, pp 39-41:

Yama follows the sun - so sunrise and sunset times are important

for start times - and there are 24 hora in a day, distributed

equally.

MahaKaal does not follow the sun, but uses local time(6AM) for the

start. The day and night durations have 12 hours each.

>> Question:

When do you use one over the other - that is, the hora has (2) 12

hora segments, yet in the discssions below we divide the day into

(2) 8 period segments.

 

2. Now, Narasimha describes (In Vedic Astrology book, pp 35-37) as

the day divided into 8 parts for the ownership of the Graha's - 8

for day ( from sunrise) and 8 for night (from sunset). and follows

the day of the week e.g.Sun, moon, Mars, Merc, Jup, Ven, Sat then NO

LORD for any part following Sani.

>>Question:

a. Should the NO Lord part assigned to Rahu???

b. The sequence of the times follow the days of the week and

make sense, yet this is not the case when compared to Hora

times where the sequence is based upon planet speed from

Saturn, Jupiter, Mars.... moon. Why the difference?

 

3. Visti's article (from a work shop I think) defines Pancha Tattwa

and also discusses 8 cycles in a day and night corresponding to the

8 Yama from Sun to Rahu, beginning with the vara lording the day.

>> Question:

a. is this the same sequence as Narasimha's definition - with

RAHU being the owner of the division FOLLOWING Saturn?

b. The sequence of a day begins with the day lord e.g. Monday

starts with Moon, then following the Kalacharka sequence next

in line - Rahu, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Mercury, Venus and

Saturn , Correct?

 

4. Freedom's article - on his web site http://www.shrifreedom.com/

Kalacharka and picking time for puja for Upaya. He divides the

day into 8 periods with the lord of the day first, then following

the Kalacharka order of grahas. Freedom also suggests the use of

these periods for remedial measures.

The Sequence follows Kalacharka , yet is different then Narasimha's

sequence that follows the days of the week.

 

Any help is welcomed!!!

patu sarvaih svarupair nah sada sarvatra sama-gah

May the Lord, who is all-pervasive in His various forms, protect us

everywhere.

 

 

Pranams,

Frank in San Diego

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Frank,

From What I understand,

In a hour(hora) ruled by a graha the Bhava ruled by the graha gets

activated. Example it's good to meet a doctor/Jyotish in hora ruled by

ones Lagna. Hour(hora) can be equated to Weekday's. There is a dictum

from Muhurtha Chintamani which states the What's is prescribed to

performed in on certain weekday(vara) can be done in same Hora as an

alternative. For example if certain Activitiy is to best performed on

Thursday it can alternatively(only as substitute) be done the Jupiter

Hora of any day.

 

The Kaalas (1.5 hrs and Yamas of 1/8 of day portion) are 8 follow the

Kaalchakra or Ashtadala Padma. These time portions activates the Graha

s (versus hora which activates the houses/Bhava) and the 8th Chara

Kaaraka in the Chart. Lets take an example. Since Weekday(like Hora)

activates the sign, Lets assumes one's Rahu is in Aries Then the Rahu

Kaalam(Yama) on Tuesdays(Mar's House) will be very prominent to bring

the effects of Rahu's in that Natives' Chart.

All Religious activities are best performed as per sun rise so Yama

(dividing sunset-sunrise/8) is best for propintiation.

 

 

Now coming to Narasimhaji's qoute you gave. There is a another way of

asigning rulers the eight portions of the day. This is in Weekday

order (Vaara Chakra like). These give the chaya graha which are

children of the Graha. Like Kala, Yamagantaka, Ardapraha,Gullika and

Mandi. These indicate the day portions when the children of that graha

will be active, For Example Muhurtha should not be chosen in Gullika

kaalam. Because at that time the Ultra Malefic son of Saturn Gullika

will be rising in the ascendant at that given place.

 

 

Hope this answers some of your questions.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P.

Om Tat Sat

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Hari Om

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Namaskar Sanjay P

 

Your post was very useful..I thank you and will continue my research

on this.

DO you perhaps have any data on calculating the Tattva's for

specific times? is Hora used? Kalachakra?

 

Pranams,

Frank in San Diego

 

varahamihira , sanjayp@c... wrote:

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Dear Frank,

> From What I understand,

> In a hour(hora) ruled by a graha the Bhava ruled by the graha

gets

> activated. Example it's good to meet a doctor/Jyotish in hora

ruled by

> ones Lagna. Hour(hora) can be equated to Weekday's. There is a

dictum

> from Muhurtha Chintamani which states the What's is prescribed to

> performed in on certain weekday(vara) can be done in same Hora as

an

> alternative. For example if certain Activitiy is to best performed

on

> Thursday it can alternatively(only as substitute) be done the

Jupiter

> Hora of any day.

>

> The Kaalas (1.5 hrs and Yamas of 1/8 of day portion) are 8 follow

the

> Kaalchakra or Ashtadala Padma. These time portions activates the

Graha

> s (versus hora which activates the houses/Bhava) and the 8th Chara

> Kaaraka in the Chart. Lets take an example. Since Weekday(like

Hora)

> activates the sign, Lets assumes one's Rahu is in Aries Then the

Rahu

> Kaalam(Yama) on Tuesdays(Mar's House) will be very prominent to

bring

> the effects of Rahu's in that Natives' Chart.

> All Religious activities are best performed as per sun rise so Yama

> (dividing sunset-sunrise/8) is best for propintiation.

>

>

> Now coming to Narasimhaji's qoute you gave. There is a another way

of

> asigning rulers the eight portions of the day. This is in Weekday

> order (Vaara Chakra like). These give the chaya graha which are

> children of the Graha. Like Kala, Yamagantaka, Ardapraha,Gullika

and

> Mandi. These indicate the day portions when the children of that

graha

> will be active, For Example Muhurtha should not be chosen in

Gullika

> kaalam. Because at that time the Ultra Malefic son of Saturn

Gullika

> will be rising in the ascendant at that given place.

>

>

> Hope this answers some of your questions.

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P.

> Om Tat Sat