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Dear Sarajit,

I am always on a quest for clarity...can you advise on the Web sit4

URL you discuss: " ...his article on Longevity in JD or his website "

 

Thasnk you,

Frank in San Diego

 

varahamihira , " varahamihira "

<varahamihira> wrote:

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Ajit,

>

> I used to take the Vriddha Principle for Rudra/ Maheswara

> Calculation previously, however when I got clear cut instructions

> from Gurudev on its calculation, I always take it regular and

> zodiacal.

>

> Still I am searching for the probable reason, why should we be

> taking the regular count. May Gurudev add few lines here.

>

> You can also read his article on Longevity in JD or his website.

You

> might find some clue there!

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

>

> varahamihira , " Ajit Krishnan " <astro@m...>

> wrote:

> > .. hamsasso.aham ..

> >

> > Dear Sarajit,

> >

> > Narasimha's book (page 156) is clear about the use of the

vriddha

> principles

> > for the calculation of rudra.

> >

> > Rudra weilds a trishoola with 3 spears, and it is only logical

> that the

> > three-footed principle of dharma used to calculate the vriddas

> applies. Can

> > you please explain why a regular count to determine rudra is

> appropriate?

> >

> > ajit

> >

> >

> > Sarajit Poddar [sarajitp]

> > Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:04 AM

> > varahamihira

> > Re: |Sri Varaha| Rudra/Maheshvara 8th house calculation

> >

> > || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > Dear Frank,

> >

> > The 8th house reckoner in the Jaimini Sutras is to be used only

> for

> > finding the longevity compartment and not the rudra. For the

rudra

> > calculation, the 8th house is always regular and zodiacal.

> >

> > However the principles behind finding the 8th house as given in

> the

> > reckoner table is as follows:

> >

> > 1. The counting shall be zodiacal for odd-footed signs and

> > antizodiacal for even-footed sigs.

> > 2. For Movable and Dual signs count the 8th sign, whereas for

the

> > fixed signs, count the 2nd sign.

> >

> > Now you derive the 8th house as per the vriddha's principles as

> > follows:

> >

> > 1. Aries: Odd-footed/ Movable- Count 8th sign in zodiacal order--

 

> > Scorio

> > 2. Taurus- Odd-footed/ Fixed- Count 2nd in Zodiacal order--

Gemini

> > 3. Gemini- Off-footed/ Dual- Count 8th in ZOdiacal order--

> Capricorn

> > 4. Cancer- Even-footed/ Movable- Count 8th in Antizodiacal order-

-

> > Sagittarius

> > 5. Leo- Even-Footed/ Fixed- Count 2nd in antizodiacal order-

Cancer

> >

> > and so on.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Sarajit

> >

> >

> >

> > varahamihira , " fls999999999 "

> > <frank_in_sandiego@c...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hari Om

> > > ~~~~~~~

> > > Dear ajit

> > > thank you for taking the time to have interest on this...

> > > I guess my point REALLY was to understand how the eigth house

> > > calculations worked and the model used.

> > >

> > > Since the Rudra calculation was one use of the " Reckoner

table "

> I

> > > associated my posts with that... hense, in hindsight, not a

good

> > > path for the conversations.

> > >

> > > I will look to your info " I have always counted exactly 8

> houses,

> > > albeit from the previous rudra house " and see how this helps

me

> in

> > > my understanding.

> > >

> > > Pranams,

> > >

> > >

> > > > where possiblevarahamihira , " Ajit

> > Krishnan "

> > > <astro@m...> wrote:

> > > > .. hamsasso.aham ..

> > > >

> > > > Dear Frank,

> > > >

> > > > I have always counted exactly 8 houses, albeit from the

> previous

> > > rudra house

> > > > where possible. The point is that the calculation of Rudra

is

> > not

> > > derived

> > > > individually for each rasi. It is derived once for each

_set_

> of

> > > odd and

> > > > even footed houses.

> > > >

> > > > Rudra for Ari is Sco (8th from Ari).

> > > > Rudra for Tau is Gem (8th from 8th from Ari).

> > > > Rudra for Gem is Cap (8th from 8th from 8th from Ari).

> > > > I am always counting exactly 8 houses.

> > > >

> > > > The badhaka sthana is the 11th house....so why do we count

9/7

> > > houses from

> > > > fixed/dual houses? Because the badhaka sthanas are

calculated

> > once

> > > for each

> > > > set of odd & even footed houses.

> > > >

> > > > ajit

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > fls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego@c...]

> > > > Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:06 AM

> > > > varahamihira

> > > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Rudra/Maheshvara 8th house

> calculation

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ajit,

> > > > yes I have read your excellent post 2X times and is helpful

> yet

> > I

> > > do

> > > > not see the number of Rasi's for the count explained... I

see

> > > > counter clockwise and forward motion, Yet when we look at

the

> > > > patterns of the count they are different based upon movable,

> > fixed

> > > > and dual.

> > > >

> > > > That said, the key to unlocking the number of rasi as I

> > understand

> > > > it is based upon Rasi ownership of Brahma ( movalble), Siva

> > > (fixed)

> > > > and Vishnu (dual).

> > > > Any insight on the " Mechanics " of this is warmly welcomed.

> > > >

> > > > Pranams,

> > > > Frank in San Diego

> > > > varahamihira , " Ajit Krishnan "

> > <astro@m...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > .. hamsasso.aham ..

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Frank,

> > > > >

> > > > > Re-read the examples in my mail carefully.

> > > > >

> > > > > ajit

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > fls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego@c...]

> > > > > Sunday, June 20, 2004 9:15 AM

> > > > > varahamihira

> > > > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Rudra/Maheshvara 8th house

> > calculation

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ajit, Brendan, (et.al)

> > > > > Thank you for your help...wnated to let you know my intent

> was

> > > > > to dig deeper and see the relationhip of HOW we get to the

> 8th

> > > > house.

> > > > > I have seen the reckoner Sanjay has included in his

Upadasa

> > > Sutra

> > > > > book, yet wanted to take it apart and really understand

how

> we

> > > get

> > > > > to the 8th house calcuation.

> > > > > My analysis showed me the way and was outlined in my email

> e.g

> > > > count

> > > > > and direction are based upon odd-footed and even footed

> rasis

> > > for

> > > > > the direction of the count, yet it is not always counting

8

> > > houses!

> > > > >

> > > > > That is my point - Some times its 12 rasi's counter

> zodiacally

> > (

> > > > > example Taurus Lagna ariving at Gemini as the 8th house)

or

> 12

> > > > > houses from Leo arriving arriving at Cancer as the 8th.

> > > > > So " decoding " the method brrings a better appreciation for

> the

> > > > > approach.

> > > > > So, Dual signs are 6 rasi's either forward or backward,

> Fixed

> > > are

> > > > 12

> > > > > signs ( forward or backward) and Movable can be 6 forward

or

> > > > > backword...the Odd-footed or even-footed determines the

> > direction

> > > > > [ try it].

> > > > >

> > > > > Pranams,

> > > > > Frank in San Diego

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > varahamihira , " Ajit Krishnan "

> > > <astro@m...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham ..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Frank,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rudra is the lord of the 8th house who bestows results

as

> > per

> > > > > dharmic

> > > > > > principles. It is determined in sequence for each set of

> odd

> > > and

> > > > > even footed

> > > > > > rasis. The principle of punaragama applies to the first

> rasi

> > > in

> > > > an

> > > > > even

> > > > > > footed set, and the first count in these sets is anti-

> > zodiacal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ajit

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Odd-Footed Example (Ari, Tau, Gem):

> > > > > > Ari - 8th house from Ari is Sco.

> > > > > > Tau - 8th house from Sco is Gem.

> > > > > > Gem - 8th house from Gem is Cap.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even-Footed Example (Can, Leo, Vir):

> > > > > > Can - 8th house from Can (AZ) is Sag.

> > > > > > Leo - 8th house from Sag is Can.

> > > > > > Vir - 8th house from Can is Aqu.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > fls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego@c...]

> > > > > > Saturday, June 19, 2004 11:44 AM

> > > > > > varahamihira

> > > > > > |Sri Varaha| Rudra/Maheshvara 8th house

> calculation

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hari Om Namo Vishwarupa

> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Jyotisha's

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am trying to understand and look for the pattern for

the

> 8

> > > > house

> > > > > > calculation that is used for the Rudra/Maheshvara

> > > identification.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have read the sections from Upadesha Sutras, Crux of

> > Vedic

> > > > > > Astrology and Narasimha's contribution in his Vedic

> > astrology

> > > > > > book. Odd Signs and Even signs play a role - As I

> analyze

> > > the

> > > > > 8th

> > > > > > house Odd-footed ( vishamapada) and Even-footed

> (samapada)

> > > also

> > > > > > play a role. Please see my observations below and

comment:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. For movable signs (owned by Brahma) :

> > > > > > Aries, a movable, odd sign and is odd-footed and the

> eighth

> > > from

> > > > > > Aries is Scorpio - yet that would mean Mars, the owner

of

> > > Lagna

> > > > > and

> > > > > > 8th ( life and death) does not work; Sanjay then

suggests

> > that

> > > > if

> > > > > > Mars is in Aries, then use Sagittarius as the 8th. MUST

> > MARS

> > > be

> > > > > in

> > > > > > Aries for this rule to apply? OR should Sag ALWAYS be

used

> > as

> > > > the

> > > > > > 8th house for a Aries Lagna???

> > > > > > >> Conclusion for MOVABLE: the direction is counted

6

> > > signs

> > > > > > there from; backwards (anti-zodiacally) if Odd-footed,

> > forward

> > > > > > (normal zodiac) if Even-footed.

> > > > > > Question: IF we use Sag as the 8th house for Scorpio and

> Sco

> > > its

> > > > a

> > > > > > FIXed sign, FIXed is owned by Siva; Siva movement is the

> 6th

> > > > > > movement -

> > > > > > how do we get to Sag? Is it because Sag is 12th from

> > > Scorpio

> > > > > in

> > > > > > an anti-zodiac direction?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. For Fixed signs ( Owned by Siva)

> > > > > > Taurus, fixed and odd-footed - the eighth there from as

> > > > suggested

> > > > > by

> > > > > > Sanjay is Gemini and is 12th from Taurus anti-

zodiacally

> > > > > > Leo, fixed, even-footed - the eighth there from as

> suggested

> > > > from

> > > > > > Sanjay is Cancer - the 12th from Leo in the normal

zodiac

> > > > forward

> > > > > > count.

> > > > > > Scorpio, fixed, odd-footed - the eighth there from as

> > > suggested

> > > > by

> > > > > > Sanjay is Sag - the 12th from Sco in the anti-zodiac

count

> > > > > > Aquarius, fixed, and even footed - the eighth there from

> as

> > > > > > suggested by Sanjay is Cap, the 12th from Aquarius in

the

> > anti-

> > > > > > zodiac count,yet both the Lagna and reckoned 8th would

> have

> > > the

> > > > > same

> > > > > > lord ( again life/death) and Sanjay then suggests using

> > Gemini.

> > > > > > >>Conclusion for FIXED: it is the 12th there from.

The

> > > > > direction

> > > > > > depends on odd-footed is anti-zodiac direction; even-

> footed

> > is

> > > > > > normal forward direction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. For dual signs (owned by Vishnu)

> > > > > > Gemini - eighth house is Capricorn - and is 8th there

> > from;

> > > > yet

> > > > > > Virgo's 8th house is reckoned to be Aquarius 8 houses

away

> > > anti-

> > > > > > zodiacally.

> > > > > > Sag 8th house is Cancer and follows a forward count 8

> houses

> > > and

> > > > > is

> > > > > > straight forward; Pisces yields Leo as the 8th house,

> which

> > > is

> > > > > anti-

> > > > > > zodiacally 8 houses away.

> > > > > > >>Conclusion for DUAL: for Dual signs, it is 8th

there

> > > from

> > > > > > either in a zodiac or anti-zodiac direction : The

> direction

> > > > > (forward

> > > > > > or backward determined by odd-footed or even-footed sign.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pranams,

> > > > > > Frank in San Diego

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |Om Tat Sat|

> > > > > > http://www.varahamihira

> > > > > >

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Hare Krishna

Sanjays extensive " longevity " article is

at :http://srath.com/raths_lectures.htm

along with many other articles.

All the best

 

Lakshmivarahamihira , " fls999999999 "

<frank_in_sandiego@c...> wrote:

> Hari Om

> ~~~~~~~~

> Dear Sarajit,

> I am always on a quest for clarity...can you advise on the Web sit4

> URL you discuss: " ...his article on Longevity in JD or his website "

>

> Thasnk you,

> Frank in San Diego

>

> varahamihira , " varahamihira "

> <varahamihira> wrote:

> > || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > Dear Ajit,

> >

> > I used to take the Vriddha Principle for Rudra/ Maheswara

> > Calculation previously, however when I got clear cut instructions

> > from Gurudev on its calculation, I always take it regular and

> > zodiacal.

> >

> > Still I am searching for the probable reason, why should we be

> > taking the regular count. May Gurudev add few lines here.

> >

> > You can also read his article on Longevity in JD or his website.

> You

> > might find some clue there!

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Sarajit

> >

> >

> > varahamihira , " Ajit Krishnan " <astro@m...>

> > wrote:

> > > .. hamsasso.aham ..

> > >

> > > Dear Sarajit,

> > >

> > > Narasimha's book (page 156) is clear about the use of the

> vriddha

> > principles

> > > for the calculation of rudra.

> > >

> > > Rudra weilds a trishoola with 3 spears, and it is only logical

> > that the

> > > three-footed principle of dharma used to calculate the vriddas

> > applies. Can

> > > you please explain why a regular count to determine rudra is

> > appropriate?

> > >

> > > ajit

> > >

> > >

> > > Sarajit Poddar [sarajitp]

> > > Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:04 AM

> > > varahamihira

> > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Rudra/Maheshvara 8th house calculation

> > >

> > > || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > > Dear Frank,

> > >

> > > The 8th house reckoner in the Jaimini Sutras is to be used only

> > for

> > > finding the longevity compartment and not the rudra. For the

> rudra

> > > calculation, the 8th house is always regular and zodiacal.

> > >

> > > However the principles behind finding the 8th house as given in

> > the

> > > reckoner table is as follows:

> > >

> > > 1. The counting shall be zodiacal for odd-footed signs and

> > > antizodiacal for even-footed sigs.

> > > 2. For Movable and Dual signs count the 8th sign, whereas for

> the

> > > fixed signs, count the 2nd sign.

> > >

> > > Now you derive the 8th house as per the vriddha's principles as

> > > follows:

> > >

> > > 1. Aries: Odd-footed/ Movable- Count 8th sign in zodiacal order-

-

>

> > > Scorio

> > > 2. Taurus- Odd-footed/ Fixed- Count 2nd in Zodiacal order--

> Gemini

> > > 3. Gemini- Off-footed/ Dual- Count 8th in ZOdiacal order--

> > Capricorn

> > > 4. Cancer- Even-footed/ Movable- Count 8th in Antizodiacal

order-

> -

> > > Sagittarius

> > > 5. Leo- Even-Footed/ Fixed- Count 2nd in antizodiacal order-

> Cancer

> > >

> > > and so on.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sarajit

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > varahamihira , " fls999999999 "

> > > <frank_in_sandiego@c...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om

> > > > ~~~~~~~

> > > > Dear ajit

> > > > thank you for taking the time to have interest on this...

> > > > I guess my point REALLY was to understand how the eigth house

> > > > calculations worked and the model used.

> > > >

> > > > Since the Rudra calculation was one use of the " Reckoner

> table "

> > I

> > > > associated my posts with that... hense, in hindsight, not a

> good

> > > > path for the conversations.

> > > >

> > > > I will look to your info " I have always counted exactly 8

> > houses,

> > > > albeit from the previous rudra house " and see how this helps

> me

> > in

> > > > my understanding.

> > > >

> > > > Pranams,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > where possiblevarahamihira , " Ajit

> > > Krishnan "

> > > > <astro@m...> wrote:

> > > > > .. hamsasso.aham ..

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Frank,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have always counted exactly 8 houses, albeit from the

> > previous

> > > > rudra house

> > > > > where possible. The point is that the calculation of Rudra

> is

> > > not

> > > > derived

> > > > > individually for each rasi. It is derived once for each

> _set_

> > of

> > > > odd and

> > > > > even footed houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rudra for Ari is Sco (8th from Ari).

> > > > > Rudra for Tau is Gem (8th from 8th from Ari).

> > > > > Rudra for Gem is Cap (8th from 8th from 8th from Ari).

> > > > > I am always counting exactly 8 houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > The badhaka sthana is the 11th house....so why do we count

> 9/7

> > > > houses from

> > > > > fixed/dual houses? Because the badhaka sthanas are

> calculated

> > > once

> > > > for each

> > > > > set of odd & even footed houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > ajit

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > fls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego@c...]

> > > > > Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:06 AM

> > > > > varahamihira

> > > > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Rudra/Maheshvara 8th house

> > calculation

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ajit,

> > > > > yes I have read your excellent post 2X times and is helpful

> > yet

> > > I

> > > > do

> > > > > not see the number of Rasi's for the count explained... I

> see

> > > > > counter clockwise and forward motion, Yet when we look at

> the

> > > > > patterns of the count they are different based upon

movable,

> > > fixed

> > > > > and dual.

> > > > >

> > > > > That said, the key to unlocking the number of rasi as I

> > > understand

> > > > > it is based upon Rasi ownership of Brahma ( movalble), Siva

> > > > (fixed)

> > > > > and Vishnu (dual).

> > > > > Any insight on the " Mechanics " of this is warmly welcomed.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pranams,

> > > > > Frank in San Diego

> > > > > varahamihira , " Ajit Krishnan "

> > > <astro@m...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham ..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Frank,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Re-read the examples in my mail carefully.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ajit

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > fls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego@c...]

> > > > > > Sunday, June 20, 2004 9:15 AM

> > > > > > varahamihira

> > > > > > Re: |Sri Varaha| Rudra/Maheshvara 8th house

> > > calculation

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hari Om

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ajit, Brendan, (et.al)

> > > > > > Thank you for your help...wnated to let you know my

intent

> > was

> > > > > > to dig deeper and see the relationhip of HOW we get to

the

> > 8th

> > > > > house.

> > > > > > I have seen the reckoner Sanjay has included in his

> Upadasa

> > > > Sutra

> > > > > > book, yet wanted to take it apart and really understand

> how

> > we

> > > > get

> > > > > > to the 8th house calcuation.

> > > > > > My analysis showed me the way and was outlined in my

email

> > e.g

> > > > > count

> > > > > > and direction are based upon odd-footed and even footed

> > rasis

> > > > for

> > > > > > the direction of the count, yet it is not always counting

> 8

> > > > houses!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That is my point - Some times its 12 rasi's counter

> > zodiacally

> > > (

> > > > > > example Taurus Lagna ariving at Gemini as the 8th house)

> or

> > 12

> > > > > > houses from Leo arriving arriving at Cancer as the 8th.

> > > > > > So " decoding " the method brrings a better appreciation

for

> > the

> > > > > > approach.

> > > > > > So, Dual signs are 6 rasi's either forward or backward,

> > Fixed

> > > > are

> > > > > 12

> > > > > > signs ( forward or backward) and Movable can be 6 forward

> or

> > > > > > backword...the Odd-footed or even-footed determines the

> > > direction

> > > > > > [ try it].

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pranams,

> > > > > > Frank in San Diego

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > varahamihira , " Ajit Krishnan "

> > > > <astro@m...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > .. hamsasso.aham ..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Frank,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rudra is the lord of the 8th house who bestows results

> as

> > > per

> > > > > > dharmic

> > > > > > > principles. It is determined in sequence for each set

of

> > odd

> > > > and

> > > > > > even footed

> > > > > > > rasis. The principle of punaragama applies to the first

> > rasi

> > > > in

> > > > > an

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > footed set, and the first count in these sets is anti-

> > > zodiacal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ajit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Odd-Footed Example (Ari, Tau, Gem):

> > > > > > > Ari - 8th house from Ari is Sco.

> > > > > > > Tau - 8th house from Sco is Gem.

> > > > > > > Gem - 8th house from Gem is Cap.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Even-Footed Example (Can, Leo, Vir):

> > > > > > > Can - 8th house from Can (AZ) is Sag.

> > > > > > > Leo - 8th house from Sag is Can.

> > > > > > > Vir - 8th house from Can is Aqu.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > fls999999999 [frank_in_sandiego@c...]

> > > > > > > Saturday, June 19, 2004 11:44 AM

> > > > > > > varahamihira

> > > > > > > |Sri Varaha| Rudra/Maheshvara 8th house

> > calculation

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hari Om Namo Vishwarupa

> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Jyotisha's

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am trying to understand and look for the pattern for

> the

> > 8

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > calculation that is used for the Rudra/Maheshvara

> > > > identification.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have read the sections from Upadesha Sutras, Crux of

> > > Vedic

> > > > > > > Astrology and Narasimha's contribution in his Vedic

> > > astrology

> > > > > > > book. Odd Signs and Even signs play a role - As I

> > analyze

> > > > the

> > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > house Odd-footed ( vishamapada) and Even-footed

> > (samapada)

> > > > also

> > > > > > > play a role. Please see my observations below and

> comment:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. For movable signs (owned by Brahma) :

> > > > > > > Aries, a movable, odd sign and is odd-footed and the

> > eighth

> > > > from

> > > > > > > Aries is Scorpio - yet that would mean Mars, the owner

> of

> > > > Lagna

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > 8th ( life and death) does not work; Sanjay then

> suggests

> > > that

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > Mars is in Aries, then use Sagittarius as the 8th.

MUST

> > > MARS

> > > > be

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > Aries for this rule to apply? OR should Sag ALWAYS be

> used

> > > as

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > 8th house for a Aries Lagna???

> > > > > > > >> Conclusion for MOVABLE: the direction is counted

> 6

> > > > signs

> > > > > > > there from; backwards (anti-zodiacally) if Odd-footed,

> > > forward

> > > > > > > (normal zodiac) if Even-footed.

> > > > > > > Question: IF we use Sag as the 8th house for Scorpio

and

> > Sco

> > > > its

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > FIXed sign, FIXed is owned by Siva; Siva movement is

the

> > 6th

> > > > > > > movement -

> > > > > > > how do we get to Sag? Is it because Sag is 12th

from

> > > > Scorpio

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > an anti-zodiac direction?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. For Fixed signs ( Owned by Siva)

> > > > > > > Taurus, fixed and odd-footed - the eighth there from as

> > > > > suggested

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > Sanjay is Gemini and is 12th from Taurus anti-

> zodiacally

> > > > > > > Leo, fixed, even-footed - the eighth there from as

> > suggested

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > Sanjay is Cancer - the 12th from Leo in the normal

> zodiac

> > > > > forward

> > > > > > > count.

> > > > > > > Scorpio, fixed, odd-footed - the eighth there from as

> > > > suggested

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > Sanjay is Sag - the 12th from Sco in the anti-zodiac

> count

> > > > > > > Aquarius, fixed, and even footed - the eighth there

from

> > as

> > > > > > > suggested by Sanjay is Cap, the 12th from Aquarius in

> the

> > > anti-

> > > > > > > zodiac count,yet both the Lagna and reckoned 8th would

> > have

> > > > the

> > > > > > same

> > > > > > > lord ( again life/death) and Sanjay then suggests using

> > > Gemini.

> > > > > > > >>Conclusion for FIXED: it is the 12th there from.

> The

> > > > > > direction

> > > > > > > depends on odd-footed is anti-zodiac direction; even-

> > footed

> > > is

> > > > > > > normal forward direction.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. For dual signs (owned by Vishnu)

> > > > > > > Gemini - eighth house is Capricorn - and is 8th

there

> > > from;

> > > > > yet

> > > > > > > Virgo's 8th house is reckoned to be Aquarius 8 houses

> away

> > > > anti-

> > > > > > > zodiacally.

> > > > > > > Sag 8th house is Cancer and follows a forward count 8

> > houses

> > > > and

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > straight forward; Pisces yields Leo as the 8th house,

> > which

> > > > is

> > > > > > anti-

> > > > > > > zodiacally 8 houses away.

> > > > > > > >>Conclusion for DUAL: for Dual signs, it is 8th

> there

> > > > from

> > > > > > > either in a zodiac or anti-zodiac direction : The

> > direction

> > > > > > (forward

> > > > > > > or backward determined by odd-footed or even-footed

sign.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pranams,

> > > > > > > Frank in San Diego

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat|

> > > > > > > http://www.varahamihira

> > > > > > >

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